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[@jasperfaren371]

“Bank-level security” as a former teller, I can say that banks... aren’t that secure at all.

[@brendenroberts3859]

Jasper Faren lol

[@twitchycorpse4378]

Good to know 😁

[@AG.Floats]

And yet nobody tries to rob them.

[@saculx3982]

@@AG.Floats or they want you to think they dont ;)

[@stanislavkafaliev1806]

*pakcin` up guns*

[@normahmansoor2888]

This PC in a nutshell : *_Who's there?! I've got a gun here and I'm not afraid to shoot myself_*

[@markusgaines1659]

Hahahaha

[@onethicccolepapi5791]

De ich ban ßirchean

[@aaryanpakhrani2578]

xD

[@danielroche3756]

Think about it. I have an example. If you have read or watched the hunger games, they gave katniss a pill in her breast pocket that she can access hands free incase of a capture and torture. She would swallow the pill and die. She had to much valuable info. But your right, its dumb.

[@williamsquibb5249]

Definitely lmao

[@unbiasedwecfan]

*literally touches it when operating* Orwl: ALERT DELETING ALL UR CRAP

[@benook]

@Good Music bro dead meme

[@3verstorm]

TheInternetLad lol

[@MechboyMarsuple]

Benook have you been eating your cereals

[@tntpanther7704]

@@MechboyMarsuple no because that would make him a cereal killer

[@haydenwood8211]

linus drops it oh crap video canceled we need to buy a new one

[@kimono8413]

If the hacker is going through that much to hack into it they’d probably just kidnap you

[@EntropyWins]

Haha I was also thinking of that XKCD

[@nagi603]

Using a browser/OS/intel management engine/etc exploit is just soooo much easier.

[@777Mikos]

or you can just steal that identification box-y. There also isn't much on how that part is protected aside for encrypted bluetooth

[@danielgraham1879]

You go down in history for starting a war?

[@chriswellz5993]

Right. LMFAO!

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

I just buy vintage Hitachi deskstar hard drives. They destroy themselves at random anyways.

[@Devdave2423]

Ya

[@knipptruppen]

cracked me up. thank you.

[@DarknessSuporter]

lol ) so true)

[@sebastiangroben6892]

Try some SCSI drives

[@iaandrei]

I actually still use a Hitachi Deskstar from 2005. The 160gb model, oem.

[@PowerTrain]

So now instead of stealing pc they need to hostage you

[@KillTheFace55]

VeraCrypt can make "plausibly deniable" hidden volumes and operating systems. As long as you implement it correctly, you could just use a decent honey-pot on the visible OS and volumes, so that if extorted you can simply hand that over, and your hidden, encrypted, plausibly deniable operating system and data can remain safe. So, an ORWL + VeraCrypt could make an "impenetrable" system. There are of course certain malware that can transmit data over the power lines by manipulating processor cycles. So, if your system is compromised through user neglect (i.e., social engineering taking advantage of lack of education about the system) and malware is installed, it's still possible to get data out of the system depending on the privilege level granted to the malware. So, "Hello, this is 1984 calling, we need your administrator password because we're issuing OTA updates to the microcode and each system must be targeted manually to avoid data loss." Bingo. Payload delivered. Any sysadmin thinking of making their job easier with these is going to bungle it when the security environment is compromised by the user.

[@SamuelLing]

just throw your pc, they can't do anything after that, killing will then be pointless

[@sebastiangamingvlogs1036]

Yep. Sucks to be tat physical hacker who comes in out of nowhere and goes out the window with ye computer.

[@SamuelLing]

do you even watch the video ?

[@alssla3581]

That is what the State does when it decided you did something they don't like.

[@PaneledPear]

I thought it would blow up. I'm disappointed.

[@Aereto]

PaneledPear6555 I would be quite fine if it actually blows up. Dead thieves are better than living ones.

[@matthew02006]

or it would ignite a thermite charge

[@CFox_]

"This computer will self-destruct in 3....2....1..." *EXPLOSIONS INTENSIFY*

[@DragonProtector]

awww i wanted explotions. Only reason i came here

[@GameCyborgCh]

ORWL 2.0 not with integrated C4 charges

[@Deciheximal]

*Cat jumps on desk and brushes up against ORWL pod* - Machine detects tampering and all data gets wiped -

[@Tconl]

Another reason to add to the hunderd others not to get a cat.

[@wormer66]

why dont you just throw the cat in a wood chipper ?

[@wormer66]

or better yet the turbines of a snow blower with the blower nozzle pointing towards the OPENING of a wood chipper? so its like when those people set up the elaborate domino falling things...

[@AltMarc]

ORWL knows about the bio-hacking-tools "cat", try to lay a "cd "next to it….

[@Ares-5933]

holy fuck mate I did not expect that in this comment thread it made me laugh

[@gaellafond6367]

Too sensitive. You sneeze next to your computer, the device freaks out, destroy the encryption key and all your data on your computer is lost forever. It's like a "self ransomware"...

[@kryse4806]

I think the ransom was done the moment you paid for it when you bought it

[@3ountyhunter]

I'm just thinking of someone getting revenge by shaking it while you are away.

[@Shadethewolfy]

plus what if it gets really hot out and your air conditioner dies? Your computer will *literally* bake itself to death if it's an Orwell.

[@PiPArtemis]

@@Shadethewolfy They said that it'll nuke the code if it detects drastic changes in temp, if it overheats and shuts down I would think that won't be an issue. I think it's about how quickly the change in temp occurs. If it sees that a temp drop of 50c in 4 seconds that's more of a red flag, I would think, than the same change over an hour. I could be wrong though and I'm not about to spend 2k just to test it out

[@Shadethewolfy]

@@PiPArtemis It's a sound theory, at least. I'm pretty sure they thought of that when designing the computer. I was mostly just being silly. Though again, there's no way to tell without testing it out yourself and I don't have 2K to throw around to test it.

[@sethadkins546]

Imagine gaming on this thing, it's like you get killed and you get really mad and you slam the desk, triggering the ORWL to delete the encryption key

[@noxious_nights]

It's not that sensitive lmao it only deletes it if it's opened

[@sethadkins546]

@@noxious_nights It literally nukes the key if it is flipped over. Did you even watch the video?

[@noxious_nights]

@@sethadkins546 I did. It nukes the encryption key if it's opened, not just bumped or something.

[@sethadkins546]

@@noxious_nights It nukes it if you flip it around, freeze it, etc.

[@SkyGamer911]

@@sethadkins546 if you put liquid nitrogen inside the ports it's killed instantly.... Or USB killer

[@MrJouPa]

So if you dont like the guy with a device like this, just bump his table and he loses all his work

[@gesshugh9976]

Then since he is probs a secret agent, he send you to a blacksite, never to be seen again.

[@zombieslayer1468]

*turns off i do understand this is a joke but still

[@michaelwautraets7126]

does it work with TempleOS ?

[@serraramayfield9230]

Probably not. TempleOS is made for a specific type of processor IIRC

[@lilycowlishaw2952]

No but it works with Hannah Montana Linux

[@8401six]

@@lilycowlishaw2952 oh thanks God i was scared for my Hannah Montana wallpapers getting hacked..

[@Jp-vm9wb]

i like ur profile pic, idk why

[@crimeman110]

Rip

[@relapse1560]

This technology was implemented for the first time on the Note 7

[@TypicalNerds]

however this came with an explosive surprise waiting to kill anyone nearby

[@thotdestroyer4j164]

Denis lmao that caught me off 10/10

[@Shubham_Bahirat]

Lol

[@420sakura1]

It never killed anyone. But it was a HUGE risk.

[@kasim7126]

sarcasm 100/100

[@auwee7251]

"Oh cool, this is something I could need in my life, I'll buy this." *it's $2000* "Nevermind..Maybe in the next life"

[@etherealmistlc]

Based 100% off your name alone, I'd wager you're late teens, early to mid twenties. Don't cut your wrists just yet, you still have plenty more years to live and maybe better your life!

[@NightWatch707]

Why would you ever need this in your life unless you are contracting for the military or something?

[@stonedapeb]

NightWatch707 Reasons...

[@meloD30]

For $2000 you can HAVE my data. Enjoy my KZbin history, spam email and anime marathons.

[@NightWatch707]

Krystalbudz Then do yourself a favor and don't end up on a watch list just by buying this device. Best security for the average guy is simply not raising any suspicion.

[@fk319fk]

20 years ago when I was a sysadmin, I had the attitude, if I could touch a machine, I could get in to it. I expressed this to the owner of the company and we changed the way people could access our small data center.

[@dylanpyle6500]

In what way

[@iCarus_A]

dylan pyle he was no longer allowed to touch their machines

[@JorgetePanete]

@@iCarus_A "NO means NO"

[@user-nh3gu1ge3d]

Physical access is total access. This device is no different, just more "locks" so to speak but all locks can be picked, all security measures can be overcome. It's just a matter of how easy.

[@fk319fk]

@@dylanpyle6500 Sorry I missed your reply. Rebooting a machine with a keyboard and an alternate boot device is the easiest way.

[@infinitelyexplosive4131]

I want to see the DEFCON guys have a competition to break this in the least amount of time.

[@hentosama]

1- put into a cooler, so theres no sudden change 2-dip into some kind of liquid/gel stuff to defeat accelerometer.. maybe¿

[@that_llama_in_a_tuxedo4584]

Oscar Velazquez it’s going to be quite a big change being put in a cooler in comparison to the temp in a room changing

[@Adierit]

wait for the internal clock battery to die, remove the storage and mount to a new board

[@crystalsoulslayer]

Didn't they say the drive itself was encrypted as well?

[@tyrusirvine9222]

It probably nukes the drive before the battery dies

[@eatskatefastass]

LinusTechTips: We break things so you don't have to.

That's called destructive testing. The kind of testing that teaches the most.

[@JonatasAdoM]

+Dmitry “The NoobZMaster” Granicin only if you have a replacement *and* you *know* what you're doing.

[@M4TTYN]

jerryrigs does it too... ah... for science? lol

You do know that he started as a boutique PC builder, right? By that I mean: he definitely knows what he's doing, and the disassembly was done more for knowing the contents. And speaking of replacements - that's most probably a review sample he was working with, meaning it goes straight back to manufacturer, where a new encryption key and Windows install gets flashed and the unit gets reassembled back.

[@tornadomimicyclone6707]

There's a channel specifically for that It's called TechRax

[@NorteXGame]

Oh crap I forgot the password Normal PC: No problem, maybe there is a Forgot Password button This PC: *boom* I mean... its good if you are in a 100 person office and collect super-sensitive data, but in home... what is that for?

[@backinyourcommentsectionag3191]

Collecting super-sensitive data, duh.

[@n1colast263]

This is the type of product that if you question it, the product isn't made for you.

[@biggiecheese7822]

Creeps probably

[@LevenLappi]

​@Tastor From the look of the computer they built, it seems hackers/creeps/etc could hide all of their terrible, illegal things on that computer and the police can't do anything about it. ORWL created the best PC for illegal activities.

[@FracturedPixels]

You nailed it, Nortex, this pc is for enterprise use, not home use

[@alanaktion]

I like how their website hit their bandwidth quota and went down. Really shows how much they expect to actually sell these :P

[@MrBiky]

Up to the top you go

[@bigdrill8881]

Or it shows their incompetence in scaling a website in 2018. Either way, a huge fuckup.

[@rya3190]

or LTT has large influence over the tech industry

[@kylenetherwood8734]

Maybe they were ironically hit by a DDOS attack

[@crunch4743]

Kyle Netherwood I mean, would a DDOS count as a hack? I don’t think so.

[@orestogams]

-Spends 2500$ for a secure computer -Uses windows 10

[@annihilator247x]

Most based comment here. Windows 10 defeats the whole purpose. It has so many intentional backdoors and I'm surprised Microsoft can get away with lying about how "secure" it is. We live in a day and age where I have to torrent programs to fix Windows 10's backdoors and have some small amount of security.

[@crazylawnmower1677]

What is a better OS to run?

[@DonutVideos]

Windows 7 nigga!

[@ytdlgandalf]

CrazyLawnmower Ubuntu. Their spying is way more subtle

[@OsmosisHD]

@Crazylawnmower everything but macOS/Windows. Will be a huge improvement There are some good solid privacy/sec distro's. But building your own is always better. The golden rule, Less is more. the less crap the less change of vulnerabilities

[@tjk_prince]

4:00 what's up with that one ramp chip?

[@Kris-jk9mq]

Linus probably dropped it....

[@usernamesnull]

Well, they did use a heat gun to get the shielding off. Probably melted the sodder or something

[@RekzysTheTitan]

Crimson Devil solder* Americans and Canadians pronounce it “sodder” but that word is actually slang for something rude.

[@JacobHaines91]

Easily the coolest product you've featured in a while!

[@DragonProtector]

ya but annoying for the whole needing extra step to just get on pc

[@davidanghel5365]

Jake Haines Didn't he just feauture a nuclear reactor?

[@boykotsvetanov8746]

Jake aines

[@JaredS47]

Jake Haines i

[@VisualBasic6]

rip users in earthquake zones rip bumping into your desk

[@spazmagoog]

If you were paying attention you would know that the motion sensors only turn it off, and only if the fob is out of range. It won't kill your data unless someone tries to open it up.

[@MasterMadaraXD]

that's true but on the other hand, just get one unlucky earthquacke and that thing will fall down your desk, which eventually could lead to the death of your data as this could be seen as an atempt to open it up with force ... like an idiot would do

[@bazzie85]

Tobias Uchiha if an earthquake is so strong as to shake this heavy and stable device off your desk, I think you would have bigger problems than the loss of data. Namely loss of life... or bladder

[@spyersecol0013]

I believe he said it would just power off if moved. Actually a good thing in either situation.

[@myinternets]

It was RIP right after linus picked it up.

[@businessgoose4883]

Could an attacker not just steal it then wait a few months until the battery died before opening it up? It would be cool to see a remote wipe feature added in the future.

[@petelee2477]

Problem is I'd assume data that valuable would be time sensitive

[@DmLax16]

What would that do? They still wont be able to boot up the computer, since it wont boot without the device.

[@usernamesnull]

I figure it wipes the key once the battery is dead. given how far they went to make it tamper proof, I doubt they made such a flaw

[@abyssstrider2547]

@@usernamesnull Well yes but you would need to boot it up to see the files considering all the stuff is on the board

[@LevenLappi]

@@abyssstrider2547 If they wipe ALL the data, and destroy the encryption key, then the SSD is basically no longer encrypted, and it's not worth the time for someone to get any data off that computer. BUT IF YOU SOLD THE PARTS. edit: please give criticism, i don't understand the encryption that well, just trying to think about it logically

[@soverysleepy]

real computer security: sleep next to pc holding double barrel shotgun and teddy bear

[@aperson4826]

soverysleepy my life lol

[@steeveedee8478]

Remember to also arm your teddy bear

[@tigmonx]

Thunder buddies for life

[@jeremygrunow5333]

What are you hiding on that computer ...😅

[@simishyde288]

teddy bear? I'll hold my Tunnel Bear

[@xWood4000]

Is it protected against usb killers?

[@LordTakahashi]

xWood4000 He said the ports shut off when you get to far from it. So probably. Plus frying it defeats the purpose of trying to hack it.

[@myrkurvr]

well the port is being directly shut off while its in sleep and the CPU is off also so yes it should be

[@xWood4000]

Yeah I remembered now that they use capacitors and are charged by the device.

[@myrkurvr]

also hacking it makes it kill itself so trying to usb kill it would be a waste of effort

[@Joe-vl5jo]

probably not, theres only usb-c so youd have to use a dongle to a type a if there isnt a type c killer and that might only kill the dongle. besides, theres no point, remove a couple screws and the whole things gone

[@CybernerdShua]

Huh, I did not know that the Marvel Cinematic Universe monitors for drastic changes in temperature.

[@hellcat1988]

I feel sorry for anyone with a cat who buys this...

[@Infernape7890]

hellcat1988 Hopefully the device has a cat sensor.

[@spazmagoog]

All that will happen if the motion sensors are tripped is it will shut off. It only wipes the encryption key if someone tries to crack it open.

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

heres an idea, dont buy it then

[@hellcat1988]

Cats can be assholes. Anyone who's ever had one knows. I wouldn't put it past a cat to knock it down and break it open, thus wiping your data.

[@BunnyHelp]

shouldve installed pawsense

[@adriancarter7787]

There's an audience for this level of security, mostly they're on the FBI watch list.

[@adriancarter7787]

what else would the FBI be looking for?

[@dalilbaby4238]

@Adrian Carter The Krabby Patty Secret Formula.

[@Joe-vl5jo]

lmao idk why this was so funny but it is

[@stonium69]

NSA*

[@forza1sra]

stonium National Spy Agency.

[@proximant]

I was actually expecting it to "Fry" itself completely with no point of recovery.

[@willierants5880]

My erotic pottery pic stash is finally safe from prying eyes.

[@jonathan_herr]

or exotic butters

[@crow9149]

My tiles are safe.

[@AleK0451]

kek

[@seiyuokamihimura5082]

Erotic pottery? That's a new one.

[@2ooo996]

Statues of anime.

[@groke5716]

“The Ultimate Porn Device”

[@Syllaren]

@J P just for the record there are plenty of illegal hobbies and prons that don't involve children. thankfully i don't have any hobbies that are dangerous enough for me to warrant paying 2000 dollars for something with the specs of a high end tablet, and one that doesn't even come with a screen or input device :|.

[@groke5716]

Syllaren JP Was Joking And Quite Frankly made me laugh if you don’t like his jokes then don’t read it

[@seriall1337]

Yeah that makes sense. Its not like you have to read a joke before you decide if you like it or anything.

[@notrealy180217]

What illegal porn actually doesnt harm people though. Those laws are in place to prevent children, animals and special needs people from being in a porn.

[@blazingfuryoffire1]

Business users may want it, though, at those specs, VMs are probably better. For most people, passwords are good for keeping tech illiterate fools from bricking your system.

[@rickywilli]

LTT is pushing better and better content, one of the few youtubers who simply keeps getting better. Great jobs there guys 😄 Im a long term subscriber and very glad to be one!

[@andresquezada121]

Never forget project valerie

[@jamesbrockman858]

Lol

[@SauceageTF]

yeah i think its another switchblade.

[@gg20001000]

Can I mention project Christine?

[@Ammonium-ow6pd]

Jimmy Jones Razer clearly said that it was a concept, even indicated by their name "project Valerie" and said that they would only develop it if it got enough support

[@NightWatch707]

Diego Garcia Hahaha. Found the Razer employee. He just asked a fucking question idiot, calm down.

[@agnomilted5206]

But can it run a virus

[@bradenfitzpatrick8352]

agnomilted orwil probably will kill it if you get it

[@alumlovescake]

agnomilted look kid it has no more protection than a normal pc

[@williamsmith6921]

Orwil himself will teleport behind you and snap your neck of that happens

[@williamsmith6921]

@@alumlovescake ok boomer

[@alumlovescake]

william smith I didn't want to sound mean

[@PkGam]

That may be a bit "too" secure to make me feel secure, lol! I mean if it's going to wipe itself if you bump it, then it's perhaps too volatile to even trust to come back to day after day.

[@zombieslayer1468]

it only shuts down if it moves

[@sandervr10]

The perfect place to store and lose you cryptocurrency...

[@zapl80]

He, rather pointless to secure the device like that, the biggest thread to your coins and data in general is not physical theft of the device, it's malware and all the nice things you get over the internet.

[@priva28]

Forget about repairs or upgrades on this thing.

[@Coohammy6]

i was thinking the same thing like what if u have to take it in to get fixed u cant

[@reyariass]

Unless they have like a specific cardboard thingy that they insert in a specific spot to stop the current from the battery like they do with some kids toys?

[@Kalvinjj]

Heck forget about living around the desk where it resides, think about bumping on it and risking your data getting wiped, or hitting it by accident and gone is all your work (and money)

[@carlbrowitt1588]

Just bin it and buy a raspberry pi

[@lescharle4695]

Somehow I feel Orwell would disaprove of how they spelled their name.

[@Eggs-n-Jakey]

I think it's riding the tech wave of removing letters. lol

[@charlieappleton3881]

it sounds a bit like newspeak from 1984 to me

[@Khloya69]

But can it run crysis?

[@blauw67]

my question as well

[@alexanderf8451]

Unsure. Tried stealing one but I couldn't get into it.

[@mileni7]

Linus, the only guy who destroyed self-destrucing PC before it could actually self destruct. GJ!

[@seshpenguin]

Though it did self-destruct... the moment he opened the lid it was dead.

[@AlDumbrava]

"Speaking of challenges, this was a challenging segway into ..." Died XD

[@markalvarado6716]

That would a little power house if they be able to squeeze one of the new Ryzen APU's in there. But then again most of the audience (myself included) would never need this type of security.

[@TheAtqthe30th]

Mark Alvarado ugh I'd hate the system for the fact: 1-moving a giant file to an external drive and walking out of range. That not only shuts off the machine but could corrupt the drive/file due to the usb power/data being shut off(example would be getting a paper from the printer in another room). 2- I like to repaste my cpu's everycouple of years with this system I'd have to make sure I had an external backup to restore it after repasting the thermal psste because the encryption key is deleted.

[@treymiller5736]

If u work for the CIA or something such a device can be very useful normal computers are a joke to steal info off of but if the info on the computers isn’t so important to be kept secure this type of device is useless now jobs that might want something like this (though would never use this very device) CIA/NSA/banking something where high cost (banking) or risk or war (government) can happen

[@galihprabasidi8498]

Atqthe30th using device like this means you have to change your behavior just like someone changing his/her internet behavior to not getting any virus. Like for your example, it's better to open a file after copying it to the device.

[@TheAtqthe30th]

Galih Prabasidi That's true. Just thinking about a normal office job instead

[@Vladimir_Kv]

It's called "corporate sector". Some things in the sphere of business are more important and expensive than the most encrypted CIA files. Because business pays for CIA via taxes.

[@DanielRichards644]

#LinusStealsProjectValerieConfirmed

[@dbsirius]

I knew it :P

[@jl.4563]

So don't leave this in your car if it's freezing outside lol

[@ademiravdic]

pretty sure inside of your car doesnt get lower than -50C lol

[@MarterElectronics]

-50? xD

[@sansyboy4181]

Depends, does it get to -50 celcius where you live.

[@carsonkelloway2317]

It can and usually does reach up to-55 °C here where I live in Canada and we get temperatures like that for 2-3 months

[@DeltaInsanity]

carson kelloway where the fuck do you live?! I also live in Canada (I get that Quebec might not be the coldest province) but the coldest it gets here is -40ish for a couple days a year... For the majority of the winter, its -15 to -25C

[@semaphorism]

If only we had comment sections that self destruct automatically

[@hanabishikai]

The best part of all Linus Tech Tips is the advertising part. The way Linus advertise is so convincing...

[@dab88]

that 768-bit key break was 8 years ago man! Computing power has come a long way so I think your source is irrelevant at this stage

[@lmaoroflcopter]

dab88 I am almost 99% sure you're right here. I remember 1024 being broken and everyone being pushed up to 4096 with 2048 as the minimum.

[@LordDragon1965]

But still 4096 is pretty damned good, without using the resources available to a multinational at the least and a government at most.

[@Henchman1977]

It's like a desktop version of that workstation room from the first Mission Impossible movie. Just needs Tom Cruise rappelling down from the ceiling!

[@hellterminator]

I'd love to see someone actually test this thing. Most “secure” product tend to fall apart almost immediately when someone actually tries to crack them.

[@Lancaster604]

This is what happens when the kids you used to play Spy-games with get an engineering degree, get rich and start their own company.

[@adrienlaunay2179]

Lastly, we need a durability test, why not send it to Linus?

[@jasonlisonbee]

And it failed. They need it to resist entry and destruction by industrial metal scrapping machines before he gets one.

[@MuzNeo1]

I would be scared using this, not only that imagine trying to repair it.

[@wyattarich]

LOL Still comes with Intel Management Engine.

[@matthewbilker3401]

Verified Boot is disabled and they allow reflashing so you very well could run me_cleaner and remove nearly all of Intel ME.

[@wyattarich]

Fantastic!

[@angolin9352]

Intel Management Engine has an internal component that's, to my knowledge, untouchable. It's a version of MINIX that has more access to your computer than any rootkit could ever dream of. It has more access to your computer than your operating system.

[@matthewbilker3401]

The me_cleaner project (github.com/corna/me_cleaner) removes almost unnecessary components of Intel ME. To my knowledge without watching and rewatching a number of Chaos Computer Conference talks about Intel ME, I am not sure if me_cleaner removes the entire MINIX stack, but it removes all of the additional components that are not necessary for your computer to run and where the bugs have been found. Some of the Chaos Computer Conference videos talks I was referring to earlier: media.ccc.de/v/34c3-8782-intel_me_myths_and_reality media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9056-bringing_linux_back_to_server_boot_roms_with_nerf_and_heads media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8314-bootstraping_a_slightly_more_secure_laptop kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH6oe3aCjZeXqtk

[@johngg4867]

iirc me_cleaner requires you to have physical access to the BIOS chip, and a programmer, so, I can't see it being done

[@CrownJoker]

Was the moved RAM part of the device's security measures, or just especially liberal use of the heat gun?

[@isavedtheuniverse]

Yeah, I noticed that too. I would imagine that if crooked was intended then the silkscreen would have matched.

[@Kalvinjj]

definitely "cautious" heat gun use, it's tilted so little and silk screen doesn't match that there would be no reason to do so. Wonder what happens after you plug it back in, if it will smoke or just blow a fuse (likely the later, but the former is more fun to see)

[@ujjwalsaxena4027]

The Crown Joker 1

[@adityarao2827]

At 4:03 the soldering kinda looks like a duck.

[@backinyourcommentsectionag3191]

There's a lot of soldering there :l

[@avi8aviate]

A very blocky duck.

[@TheSeanmortimer]

Minecraft duck

[@abyssstrider2547]

DuckDuckGo FTW!

[@teodorosantos9821]

Can i use this to protect the krabby patty secret formula? Also can it run crysis?

[@leobrown5887]

Teodoro Santos don’t think so

[@KaeYoss]

I's John Cena's Semen

[@drbedlam9786]

This is where I store my pornography.

[@ch1ll1add.25]

Dr Bedlam U mean. Illegal porn?

[@CTimmerman]

All porn is illegal in some places.

[@carlbrowitt1588]

LOL;-)

[@carlbrowitt1588]

Cees Timmerman depends on where you're from fees not all porn is illegal

[@carlbrowitt1588]

I

[@matthewyabsley]

I did some work on this concept a couple of years ago too. Though we had multi point radio frequency beacons around the room as well, it used a combination of locating it's position against the beacons and known wifi networks to determine where it was in the room, if that changed then it would blow up too.

[@AllAboutStealth]

"But can you do this" only $399

[@Major_Mason]

Now its Lenovo's turn to 1up this.

[@AthanImmortal]

"i install windows myself"

[@iare19]

Wtf? I have y510p for 3 years now works perfectly. Unlike Asus crap that has died 3 times on me out of the blue.

[@nathanthecollector429]

FastLikeUNO but they make it in a laptop and f it up and the screen doesn't work

[@supremeicecreme1658]

Anything other that the proper lenovo thinkpads are just odd really. I'd take a T410 any day.

[@Vittrich]

I had 3 Lenovos, one is over 10 years old and all 3 still work perfect. had an acer laptop once, never again in my life

[@Bodragon]

Dunk it into liquid nitrogen, then it won't have time to react, meaning it won't have time to do anything. Then you've got all the time in the world. >

[@ArmaunZandi]

I live in vancouver and I met you at costco once! was awesome meeting you

[@CommodoreFan64]

Would you like a trophy for that or something?

[@honkhonk8009]

OH YEAH? wELL my friend WORKS for him

[@talalabdulaziz316]

I know a phone that self destruct when the new one come out "IPhone".

[@MOOSHROOMKILLER3]

Talal Abdulaziz didn’t the note 7 do that? Lol

[@Sabrintwitt3r]

What if battery dies

[@TheGreatKiller-vl1sc]

Then probably good bye data because you can't open it without your data going cappoot

[@Sabrintwitt3r]

@@TheGreatKiller-vl1sc good point If somebody buys this computer for stellar security they would probably make backups of the data that they have regularly.

[@NZZN_]

5:29 Great work! I Always get scared when I see someone on youtube publicly show their keys that could easily be copied with an image!

[@kochi3accordion]

if you want bank level security just keep your pc in a bank vault

[@jasonlisonbee]

That's a cool idea, just make sure the bank has a high speed internet connection so you don't notice much latency when you remote desktop into it.

[@007hansen]

OptimisticPessimist let me trow a 5$ wrench ^ in your plan.

[@jasonlisonbee]

I could add a feature that monitors my vitals so it self destructs as soon as I'm under duress or as soon as there's a time lapse in the vitals monitoring chip I had implanted. Don't try to MITM that, it uses a private 4096-bit previously shared key, perfect forward secrecy, highest bit level of the most secure encryption standard publicly known. 32 byte fully randomized password is stored on the chip; I don't know it. Tamper with the chip's connection to me or my vitals, and it will self destruct. What's being guarded will not be worth the time to get it. 20 to 25 bytes would probably take past the end of time to brute force using every molecule in the universe. Definitely way past the end of my lifetime if you employ every cycle of every computing device created by then.

[@007hansen]

OptimisticPessimist invest into neuro-sensors!?

[@jasonlisonbee]

If the data is that important, the user at least should move the weak point away from their device and their personal safety. If the attacker is going to go that far, your life will probably end AFTER they get what they want anyway. In that case, you might as well make sure you cannot give them the information and don't know how to help them.

[@juoig7799]

Hacker: *Hacks the self-destructing computer* Computer: Danger, the emergency destruct system is now activated. I will detonate in T-10 seconds.

[@MyMachinima1]

so...its a computer for storing some extra cheesy pizza

[@raphealwarwar6296]

Erppa112 are you talking about the cheese pizza I am thinking about

[@johnnygomez916]

Erppa112 party vans going to be at your door any minute now

[@abdullahabbasi9586]

Good that fucking pun. NSA on its way

[@kylegordon]

That RAM chip at 03:59 looks really poorly aligned. Surprised it works at all

[@rmflom12]

its poorly aligned because linus's employee used a heat gun to remove the shielding... causing it to desolder :(

[@hackanome9954]

GOT DAMNIT STUPID PC

[@hylianhero987]

segway into ad was brilliant. i still skipped the ad. edit: commented this before finishing the video. didn't expect two ad plugs...

[@Rift2123]

rip accidentally kicking computer desk and PC locking down

[@professordd8731]

There is always a way...

[@garystinten9339]

professorDD87 delay that "brief moment" and inject malicious code.. Glue fob to unit.

[@Kittsuera]

that way doesn't mean it will fast though.

[@dynamitedinosaur4601]

Yeah, be the person that owns it.

[@thgeraads]

professorDD8ihubuyg

[@yulfine1688]

no one said it was impossible...well if they did theyre complete idiots. But no one in their right mind especially for just some random person is going to be breaking into these devices to steal information...considering it's similar to security of banks and credit unions and then above that our governments own encryptions and those require an extremely talented person to break into and its been done...quite a bit all over the world.

[@animecrafter100]

0:02 Yes! I do take my cyber-security super cereal!

[@ethanalt9048]

Thank you Linus for telling me that 4096-bit encryption has, wait for it, *over 4,000 bits!* Couldn't have done that math myself.. lol

[@foersterjunior]

what happens, if you bump your table and that thing falls down?

[@FlorisApon]

Powered by intel? I don't know how secure that thing is..

[@PhoenixLive_YT]

0:57 oh , now i come in a Radiator Lol...

[@prithvishetty6938]

Phoenix I left wwr

[@xDrikenx]

Lmaoo

[@squaller9254]

lmao

[@Nik.ff.]

Better then being a mousepad

[@TypicalNerds]

how the f### did they get your DNA and recreate you

[@NanoMine]

4:00 That doesn't look right!

[@AnimMouse]

Nice soldering.

[@NanoMine]

Cheers! haha!

[@JBloodthorn]

Stuff like that tends to happen when you heatgun something to the point that it starts to smoke.

[@skyeliedeviluke1231]

lol very secure

[@konatadesuka]

Idiot heatgunned a removable shield, lol

[@jbritain]

I know someone who worked with a company that has computers that made a gurgling noise and displayed 'water in computer' if you hacked it.

[@Keod123]

This stupid "Linus Tech Tips Official" bot posting spam links in the comments is pissing me off.

[@XxLukexX]

Keod123 same it's fucking annoying

[@dootthethird]

Hmmm I smell salty people...

[@LordTakahashi]

Yuji Fauveau Hmmm I smell a troll.. Horrid odor as always.

[@jeltehoekstra2952]

Keod123 the worst thing is... official wasnt even spelled correctly

[@BobMarley-vl5gl]

So if I was to forget my password... not only is it already a bad day but then, my computer decides to explode. But it’s all good I’m now safe.

[@rasseriegmail7270]

@6:29 Linus was in a car along Bukit Timah Road in front of the Robin Residences Condominium (it was being constructed at time of filming) when a huge Malaysian registered trailer zoomed past. Also, Linus sat on a chair in front of Sim Lim Square. This was in Singapore. :)

[@94nolo]

Okay but I need to know if I can run Crysis on this bad boy.

[@eliasg5]

Maybe, but no dedicated gpu, so meh-performance.

[@jackhemsworth7515]

6th gen m class cpu.. and no GPU.. so probably not.

[@nathansmith720]

lucky guy depends on the intergrated graphics. I can run crysis on my laptop that has intel hd 520 onboard graphics.

[@nealboonyarit5212]

You'll be having a fps crysis if you try

[@ethandehoff3517]

I doubt it.

[@BlueBetaPro]

Password managers aren't actually that secure, especially LastPass, 1password etc. In concept they aren't secure, but in reality it's better than using the same passwords for many things, or loosing a password etc. In essence password managers work because we are humans after all not robots. With a password manager you just have to rely your trust more places, not less, and if someone is able to access your password manager, then worst case scenario.

[@ahmedbob423]

You can spread out your passwords into multiple password managers if you want...

[@BlueBetaPro]

Yeah, get as many attack vectors as possible, why not start handing out flyers with my passwords on them. Hell, here is my password: *********** Edit: lol it automatically turned my pass into asterisks lol.

[@0x00-q2i]

hunter2?

[@MrBiky]

You can't have your password stolen, if you are giving your password away yourself ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) On a more serious note, it's hard for anybody to get into a password manager databse, they'd have to get your master password and / or the database key (if you use one). I recommend Keypass and sync the database using Syncthing (non-cloud based sync app). What I'm more worried about is keyloggers that can get passwords out of clipboard (when copy-pasting from a password manager) and screen recorders that can see the password if I'm not copy-pasting, but writing it directly from my screen. Of course, if I would be that worried about having my passwords stolen, I'd get a device that can't be accessed without a master password and a physical key (like a usb stick), lock it inside a box and enter my passwords manually whenever I need to insert a password, but I'm not that huge a tinfoil hat wearer, I copy-paste from Keypass and use Syncthing to sync between Arch Linux, Windows and Android.

[@subjekt5577]

Keepass

[@redacted629]

And now they're gone... no purchasing them, website down... wonder why?

[@Liza.Wharton]

This is way too much over-protection just to keep your browsing history info safe.

[@donknotts650]

lmao

[@KaeYoss]

The secret is to be proud of it all.

[@devinbinglebeebop4898]

Seems like a doubleplusgood model, with an doublebig ungood pricetag.

[@ghomerhust]

yeah anything with onboard graphics that is over a grand is for sure ungood

[@carolinejohnson-pseudonym1841]

If it uses Bluetooth security, it has to be constantly open to data coming from the frequencies used for Bluetooth. Seems like that in itself is a potential security breach, and that isn't even considering spoofing the signal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't deleting/encrypting informarion take time? Even if this computer is faster than most, couldn't you save most of the information if you nailed/screwed through the battery really fast (like less than 5 seconds)? Also, if the sensors recalibrate, there's a potential exploit right there to trick the machine into letting you freeze it anyways. If they don't recalibrate, won't random bugs from a sensor just kill the computer even though it wasn't tampered with? This also assumes the information on the computer is valuable enough to go to the trouble of protecting but also something you would be willing to destroy to keep out of another persons hands. That's true for nuclear codes, but what about your bitcoin wallet or something? If your computer is the only machine with access, geting it stolen or self destructing still means you loose the money. Not much consolation the theif didn't get it either. It's only really practical for something you already have stored elsewhere but you want a second convenient access that is still secure. That's pretty niche. Also, if someone goes to the trouble of stealing a computer for the info on it, that's one thing. But regular hackers during regular use could potentially compromise the system that way via traditional online hacking. If the computer also is programmed to react to software tampering, that presents another problem. A data burglar might want the data intact, but some hackers will destroy a computer for the heck of it. The more sensitive it is to tampering, the more secure it is, but that also makes it more likely an innocent disruption will set it off and destroy the owner's data. Its like putting a bomb in a bank vault. It doesn't save the money, it's more of a screw-you to the theif.

[@siloton]

Deleting the key would be fast, but there has to be some security checks before, so some very fast press like smashinator 5 million, with properly sized circle punch probably has a chance to cut the baterry out before key gets lost. Interesting idea :)

[@petelee2477]

Honestly that's genius putting a bomb in a bank volt. Forget the money the fact that the theif is gone makes it worth it. I'd consider whoever implements that a hero.

[@someiyoshino4128]

coomputer: Holy *S H I T*!!1!!! im being *H A C C E D* by a 1337 haxor. Better self destruct. 2 secconds later explosion *p o w*

[@xSeRosiSx]

They should solder the SSD to the board as well so that if anybody does get their hands on it they don't also get a free M.2. That way they won't have your data and they won't have anything to resell or use for themselves.

[@AndreiTache]

But then you can’t upgrade it in the future...

[@xSeRosiSx]

From the looks of it you can't upgrade it without destroying your data anyways.

[@discoHR]

Anything soldered can be desoldered. You can also design a small PCB, have it manufactured in China (it's cheap, I do it for my own projects), solder the stolen chip(s) to it and use it all together as a regular M.2 SSD in another computer, no big deal. Soldering is protection only for RAM so you can't get the key from it even if you freeze the RAM because to unsolder it you have to heat it up which would make it lose data. I just hope Linus put wrong photo of the RAM in the video and manufacturer actually used BGA package because if the pins are sticking on the sides as seen in the video then RAM can be probed with test clips and they solved nothing soldering the RAM to the PCB.

[@xSeRosiSx]

Who would go to those lengths for an SSD? If they had the tools, know-how, and time you'd think they could simply afford to buy a new M.2 whenever they wanted. And if you saw in the video the data was already gone before they even got the cover off. If we are to believe the caption. Again, why make it easy for the thief to get free things in this case? Difficulty is the deterrent.

[@NJP1234567890]

I’m glad you added the notebook thought at the end. Those would sell.

[@odi7136]

I take cyber-security super cereal

[@abdusarameh5426]

OdiPVP same

[@web1bastler]

But what if I pour some saltwater into your cereal?

[@abdusarameh5426]

web1bastler ill get salty 🙃

[@cookiesxsugar9447]

So it's Blackberry the computer?

[@coolworld3966]

Yes

[@CaseyDplays]

So basically. Load a USB drive with whatever script you want to steal the data. ( a Wi-Fi usb if you're really trying ) and plug it when no one is looking. Yes even if the device has powered off the ports. Them just wait. Once the user returns your hack is done while the system is on and the keys are being used. Still nice for security but there is ALWAYS a way around.

[@bhavin_ch]

So.. I can just grab your PC and open it up with a screw driver to brick it? Awesome

[@FelixG]

So.. I can just grab your PC and throw it on the ground and stomp on it to brick it? Awesome srs though I don't get your comment.

[@dhruvchawla5476]

FelixG if you try to open this it kills itself

[@FelixG]

No, it simply clears itself making the encrypted data inaccessible. It's basically like a secure erase formatting, so you can open it up etc without problem just that you'll lose your stuff on it.

[@bhavin_ch]

FelixG yea. But he point is that sometimes that's enough to fuck with you. It's so easy to destroy data on this device, it's almost a design flaw

[@FelixG]

It's not a design flaw as it was literally designed for that exact purpose. This is not a product meant for people who have friends who try to brick their devices.

[@BoBB2000]

Wait what, Why is that ram chip on there so crooked? how is that supposed to work?

[@Up8Y]

I think the fact they hit it with a heat gun probably contributed to that.

[@BoBB2000]

Seems like a legit reason indeed, missed that bit.

[@elliecore]

But... Can it play crisis

[@Lislio]

How to hack this: wait for the battery to run out

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

SPECTER

[@konatadesuka]

Not possible as keys are in battery backed RAM. If they learned anything from the banking devices they tried to copy.

[@Baigle1]

or run small wires through the cooling vents to drain the battery with a short

[@FelixG]

Baigle1 and wipe the data with it...

[@Baigle1]

I'm not sure if it monitors battery drainage

[@heylittlesparta4650]

But can it run Crysis?

[@madmike475]

Old meme

[@heylittlesparta4650]

Old is gold.