Automating Boston Dynamics Spot Robot - Computerphile

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@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the Floyd Warshall algorithm - we used it in a telecom network design tool 20 years ago. It probably deserves its own episode to explain it! Dr Mike Pound perhaps?
@jgold96
@jgold96 2 жыл бұрын
There is only Mike Pound
@agoatmannameddesire8856
@agoatmannameddesire8856 2 жыл бұрын
As a former network engineer, even though Arista/Cisco/Juniper get all the attention, Netgear unmanaged switches are the unsung heroes of scientific research :)
@AndreaZzzXXX
@AndreaZzzXXX 2 жыл бұрын
indeed 🙂
@3nertia
@3nertia 2 жыл бұрын
Meh, Netgear :/
@BenOliver999
@BenOliver999 2 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting thought. Those 5 port blue boxes are all over the place, under desks, strapped to walls, lashed to machinery, warehouses...
@recklessroges
@recklessroges 2 жыл бұрын
It used to be Netgear. Over 10 years ago I moved to MikroTik.
@CalebSalstrom
@CalebSalstrom 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Ubiquiti
@Mmouse_
@Mmouse_ 2 жыл бұрын
The second he said "risk assessment" I knew he wasn't happy with it, that man has a lot of ideas and maybe 10% of them he can actually do... I feel you friend.
@3nertia
@3nertia 2 жыл бұрын
The struggle is real heh
@Torwals
@Torwals 2 жыл бұрын
Yea felt that one as well. Heard that Lex Freedman was really disappointed about this as well. Every university is basically doing so stringent risk assessment and PR management that you loose out on interactions between humans and robots. Probably the most important part of these robots. Unsure how exact that statement is, so take that with a big grain of salt. But hopefully we will see more interactions in coming future.
@StubbyPhillips
@StubbyPhillips 2 жыл бұрын
The U.K. has no shortage of officious twits.
@PH4RX
@PH4RX 2 жыл бұрын
@@Torwals No, they are robots, machines, bits and bytes and they are not meant to interact much with humans - no matter how pet-like they might look or behave. Those 'behaviours' are programmed mostly for show and while collision control is part of the robot, if set up incorrectly or you are not recognised as an obstacle, the machine will try to walk through you and it will not back down. It has no understanding of your screams or that you want to push it away to prevent some danger.
@abyteuser6297
@abyteuser6297 2 жыл бұрын
@@PH4RX damn... sounds like a cool movie plot
@johnpenner5182
@johnpenner5182 2 жыл бұрын
this is very interesting - not too many places where you can find how the robot creates the internal 3D maps to autonavigate - thanks for doing this!
@bigbadwolf4075
@bigbadwolf4075 2 жыл бұрын
OctoMap is probably one of the best 3D occupancy grid mapping ROS library.
@RFDN0
@RFDN0 2 жыл бұрын
I could see later versions used for mapping out dangerous environments and search and rescue.
@U014B
@U014B 2 жыл бұрын
The Boston Dynamics St. Bernard?
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 2 жыл бұрын
search and rescue is one of the more noble reasons I could see this being used for...
@yuzan3607
@yuzan3607 2 жыл бұрын
I have done a project with my colleagues back in Japan doing exactly that.
@IanBLacy
@IanBLacy 2 жыл бұрын
They should make one that finds empty cups on the floor and pisses beer into them, that would be sick
@mohamadomran13
@mohamadomran13 2 жыл бұрын
Based comment. I knew it I'll find Pissbot's references here 😂
@jgold96
@jgold96 2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you just build cup holders onto it, and then just have the robot filled with a small "keg"?
@Tom_2103
@Tom_2103 2 жыл бұрын
I think some 3ft American man had a similar idea
@AZOffRoadster
@AZOffRoadster 2 жыл бұрын
And name it "Corny"?
@lucbloom
@lucbloom 2 жыл бұрын
Pissbot FTW Crackbaby did it first.
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 2 жыл бұрын
The surface decoration of those cupboards is lovely.
@prabinrath7105
@prabinrath7105 2 жыл бұрын
Very neatly explained. Thank you for making this video. Ros is the defacto middle ware for robotics today. And that visualization tool is rviz which was also developed by the ros community for monitoring sensor data and robot kinematics.
@BobAxiom
@BobAxiom 2 жыл бұрын
Emacs key bindings in vim- I see you! Powerful nerd energy! 👊
@tfofurn
@tfofurn 2 жыл бұрын
For years I used a vi emulator in emacs.
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! 🙌👍🏻
@stefangeyer3852
@stefangeyer3852 2 жыл бұрын
@@tfofurn Do i hear evil mode?
@steubens7
@steubens7 2 жыл бұрын
more videos on ROS would be awesome! showing off RViz and MoveIt and gazebo and virtual camera sensors and and and
@DarrenPoulson
@DarrenPoulson 2 жыл бұрын
As someone learning ROS currently (well, ROS2) I second this.
@TS-kg4lf
@TS-kg4lf 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job on ROS1, now switch to ROS2 since you are using wifi and emulate a harsh environnement :)
@darcipeeps
@darcipeeps 2 жыл бұрын
I very much enjoy the animation of spot at 1:29
@gaganb
@gaganb 2 жыл бұрын
I worked on autonomous frontier exploration and mapping, but there we squashed down the point cloud into a 2D occupancy map. Hadn't heard of an octomap before (which is essentially a 3D occupancy map), really cool stuff!
@vikaspoddar001
@vikaspoddar001 2 жыл бұрын
please consider doing a video on ROS
@benshapiro9731
@benshapiro9731 Жыл бұрын
Ex-Velodyne LiDAR employee here… we used to have one of these in our San Jose office!!
@lucasl4644
@lucasl4644 2 жыл бұрын
I’m doing a Mechatronics (robot engineering) degree and it’s great to see what I may be doing in the future
@plekkchand
@plekkchand 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, these will definitely make all our lives richer and more meaningful.
@bluegizmo1983
@bluegizmo1983 2 жыл бұрын
0:36 ..... So, your saying I CAN'T ride it around?? 😂 Also, 0:58 What kind of rubber bumpers ... Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers? LOL
@cedricvillani8502
@cedricvillani8502 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 10 points to you sir
@TheAMadMan
@TheAMadMan 2 жыл бұрын
It should definitely squat it's rear end to make it's breadcrumb deposits, and for no reason at all circle the dropping 3 times then momentarily lifting a leg in it's direction before proudly trotting off on it's tasks
@danielbakergill
@danielbakergill 2 жыл бұрын
I love the ethics of this, pretending it's for mapping. Cute.
@kwanarchive
@kwanarchive 2 жыл бұрын
I asked the Boston Dynamics people if they could create a robot ostrich with the technology they have now. They said, no, but they could make an emulator.
@luke7503
@luke7503 2 жыл бұрын
They actually have one, it de palletises boxes
@Pinefenario
@Pinefenario 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the ideal power plant robot. As long as you put an arm or two on it to disassemble things. Or perhaps in the not to distant future in autonomous shipping.
@tiagotiagot
@tiagotiagot 2 жыл бұрын
Why does it stomp so hard when it walks? Is it to preempt the ground failing before the bot got the full weight placed on each foot?
@hurktang
@hurktang 2 жыл бұрын
2 reasons : First, it's heavier than it looks (31KG). Second, overshooting the step by pressing it into the floor is far better than the opposite, it must make sure every steps hit the ground even if it was outside on uneven dirt floor. Bonus: the floor is probably part of why it resonate so loudly.
@jab5915
@jab5915 2 жыл бұрын
Please, a full video just on the popped collar.
@timballam3675
@timballam3675 2 жыл бұрын
But can it pee beer into a cup?
@SakkakuTamashi
@SakkakuTamashi 2 жыл бұрын
No, that is the pissbot 9000
@mojacodes
@mojacodes 2 жыл бұрын
maybe...
@dy5topian
@dy5topian 2 жыл бұрын
Micheal reeves hhh
@existantf21
@existantf21 2 жыл бұрын
It is the most closeup video with spot
@asterlofts1565
@asterlofts1565 2 жыл бұрын
Could you also talk about other robots in the same style as Spot, such as Unitree A1, ANYmal or Q-UGVS?
@bikcrum
@bikcrum 2 жыл бұрын
It quite aligns with the reasearch that we are doing. Would you mind pointing me towards the resources such as the tools, software and algorithm that you are using? Basically, we have remote driven bipedal robot and we are trying to do a automatic navigation just like shown in the video.
@Pinefenario
@Pinefenario 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the ideal power plant robot. As long as you put an arm or two on the robot to disassemble things.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR Жыл бұрын
What about using PY2C to generate a C++ which can be compiled and then linked into the system and will run smoother and faster.
@jonaslind9505
@jonaslind9505 2 жыл бұрын
8:30 What’s the music on the wall behind Michal?
@Norsilca
@Norsilca 2 жыл бұрын
And why's that guy in the background pretending to be a clock?
@TheThunderSpirit
@TheThunderSpirit 2 жыл бұрын
nice. i have too started working on bots recently. very interesting
@kwinvdv
@kwinvdv 2 жыл бұрын
As a follow-up on this video, it might also be interesting to discuss RoboCup?
@thethufir
@thethufir 2 жыл бұрын
Using a 5 port poe switch to power one poe wifi mesh adapter seems a bit silly. But maybe it's to be able to easily connect with it via wire for debugging etc.
@tigers123123
@tigers123123 2 жыл бұрын
Spot has mutliple Lidars already for navigation. Is it too difficult to extract data from those? No API's?
@eaglestdogg
@eaglestdogg 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine their lidar has a wider FOV more suited for mapping compared to the one for object detection/avoidance.
@gloverelaxis
@gloverelaxis 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and also surely a walking bot has accelerometers inbuilt too, right?
@gloverelaxis
@gloverelaxis 2 жыл бұрын
@@eaglestdogg That still seems incredibly wasteful. Why not have the bot look around itself using the front-facing lidars? It's a gradual autonomous mapper, not a fast-moving car that needs 360-degree vision in milliseconds to avoid fatal collisions with people
@NightKev
@NightKev 2 жыл бұрын
@@gloverelaxis It would have to constantly be spinning 360 while also tilting up and down as well, that's going to be incredibly slow surely.
@cedricvillani8502
@cedricvillani8502 2 жыл бұрын
@@gloverelaxis that’s the IMU part yes.
@DenilsonSa
@DenilsonSa 2 жыл бұрын
What's that handheld computer on the table at 9:24? It's not the Steam Deck, I wonder if it's one of the competitors.
@cedricvillani8502
@cedricvillani8502 2 жыл бұрын
The portable XBox? lol
@TheAmPm123
@TheAmPm123 2 жыл бұрын
"And after the mapping stuff is all worked out we just strap guns and deadly lasers on it, and voilà!"
@cedricvillani8502
@cedricvillani8502 2 жыл бұрын
For that see Samsung 😂
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the first generation of the human killing robot. So deadly that it has to be kept under control at all times, lest it run gets out and goes on a killing spree, one shin at a time.
@pepsimilkhotel
@pepsimilkhotel 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends would've killed robot dog with hammers i can tell you that much
@ιθκ-κ4ο
@ιθκ-κ4ο 2 жыл бұрын
@@pepsimilkhotel it aint that easy fam
@cedricvillani8502
@cedricvillani8502 2 жыл бұрын
RoboDog would see your intention and jump 10 meters to arrive on top of your head
@RawPeds
@RawPeds 2 жыл бұрын
The looks of the program RViz, it looks like it's done with the Qt framework. Is it right?
@hashirsibtain
@hashirsibtain 2 жыл бұрын
Iirc it's a ROS package and yes, it is indeed qt. All ROS GUI tools are qt
@zxuiji
@zxuiji 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a task they could try with it, follow people within a designated area, this would happen when either it or a director deems someone as suspicious when being used for security
@DIGITAL-JESUS
@DIGITAL-JESUS 2 жыл бұрын
How about no
@comradepeter87
@comradepeter87 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a lot of redundant work done? Spot generates a 3D map of the ambient world anyways, yet they choose to generate their own and use that. Also they try to control the navigation on their own, when Spot knows how to move in an environment better than them (automatically avoids obstacles in a path, etc.).
@Dart_ilder
@Dart_ilder 2 жыл бұрын
Why aren't they using spot's cameras?
@maxcap60
@maxcap60 2 жыл бұрын
I like the heart on your sleeve tat
@punkdigerati
@punkdigerati 2 жыл бұрын
Vim with emacs keybinding, oh my
@sergeant5848
@sergeant5848 2 жыл бұрын
Straight out of Black Mirror, though a little less weaponised and a bit slower.
@mrxmry3264
@mrxmry3264 2 жыл бұрын
6:24 now why does that remind me of money for nothing? :-) 12:38 "a subscriber-publisher thing" you mean like MQTT?
@deathtothebeardless2959
@deathtothebeardless2959 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, ROS's communications systems are similar to mqtt, but does not have a broker. The master gives the information needed to the node to contact other nodes directly. You can also choose between three types of message format. Topics: publish and forget Service: request something and wait for the result Action: contiuous feedback to the client and can can also handle pause, cancel and similar.
@EnderMega
@EnderMega 2 жыл бұрын
The guy in the background doing the clock 🙋‍♂💁‍♂⏰
@cedricvillani8502
@cedricvillani8502 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that too lol, I think that was Robo dogs last victim
@AntiWanted
@AntiWanted 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@driesdemaeseneer9773
@driesdemaeseneer9773 2 жыл бұрын
Vim for the win!
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 2 жыл бұрын
When will robots be able to use "eyeballs" (aka passive detectors)?
@punkdigerati
@punkdigerati 2 жыл бұрын
What is passive about eyeballs?
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 2 жыл бұрын
@@punkdigerati they are receptors.
@Voidroamer
@Voidroamer 2 жыл бұрын
wheres the money coming from? :O very nice set, for not a lot of progress..
@Nexzore
@Nexzore 2 жыл бұрын
NUC, Next unit of computation - w8 isn't this just like a raspy?
@DarrenPoulson
@DarrenPoulson 2 жыл бұрын
More powerful, but yeah. ROS will run on a Pi just nicely too, but you're more limited with the amount of processing.
@cedricvillani8502
@cedricvillani8502 2 жыл бұрын
More like a Jetson Xavier NX
@cazino4
@cazino4 2 жыл бұрын
These dudes have basically invented their own low-level, sensor based, Kafka 😊
@xpuc6214
@xpuc6214 2 жыл бұрын
So people really are reinventing the dog
@gabington8990
@gabington8990 2 жыл бұрын
Now make it pee beer
@jms019
@jms019 2 жыл бұрын
I think that thing on top is just a fun hat.
@thuokagiri5550
@thuokagiri5550 2 жыл бұрын
Isaac Asimov would be so proud
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite sci-fi authors!
@irwainnornossa4605
@irwainnornossa4605 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see animals interacting with this.
@bruinflight
@bruinflight 2 жыл бұрын
"...long term angle..." meaning "...we want to fit it with weapons and send it to warzones..."
@rene0
@rene0 2 жыл бұрын
He talks and talks but doesn't demonstrate that big red button that every viewer is staring at.
@cedricvillani8502
@cedricvillani8502 2 жыл бұрын
The “that was easy” staples military button? For ppl that get close enough unwittingly press it thinking it’s a shutdown, but it’s a nerve agent release 😮😂
@thomasr22272
@thomasr22272 2 жыл бұрын
This video is just a deleted scene from that Black Mirror's episode
@jamesmatthew1903
@jamesmatthew1903 2 жыл бұрын
If I ever saw one of these, I'd just pick it up and walk away. Engineer your way out of that lol.
@flwi
@flwi 2 жыл бұрын
Kafka evolved - iirc the original one only had two legs :-)
@maxnex7676
@maxnex7676 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! It acts like a glorified ROMBA vacuum cleaner without the vacuum part.
@ontheballcity71
@ontheballcity71 2 жыл бұрын
Vim not Emacs? Blimey!
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 2 жыл бұрын
Not entirely sure how to feel about this video... I have a general loathing for all things Boston Dynamics, yet this seems to perhaps genuinely be a usage that has other goals than just military ones? So... that's kinda cool. And yet, I can also easily see how this could be used for military purposes, so.... yeah. Conflicted feelings... glad I actually watched, and yet...... :-|
@ali_adeeb
@ali_adeeb 2 жыл бұрын
All technology has military uses. Literally all of it
@salmarita219
@salmarita219 2 жыл бұрын
wow a robot vacuum on legs ;-)
@edizarca5911
@edizarca5911 2 жыл бұрын
make it flip
@dan110024
@dan110024 2 жыл бұрын
‘Vim is the easiest thing I know to use’ wtf who is this guy and where did he come from?
@mfx1
@mfx1 2 жыл бұрын
All that tech and they're using a dity cheap uncased eBay Chinese DC/DC converter of dubious quality.
@willis936
@willis936 2 жыл бұрын
ROS and middleware make sense for rapid, high-end development, but I really would not trust a safety system going through a non-deterministic system. Even real-time OS doesn't really cut it to me. If it can hurt a human (or even equipment) if it fails, then it should be going through an embedded controller or FPGA. Tough pill to swallow though.
@blackwaters26
@blackwaters26 2 жыл бұрын
There's an embedded controller running the robot and it has fail-safes. The ROS stuff sits on top, as you say a higher level system. It just pipes data and control signals.
@skytech2501
@skytech2501 2 жыл бұрын
This robot might be Useful for very niche application. For most things we can use drones.
@WmSrite-pi8ck
@WmSrite-pi8ck 2 жыл бұрын
Spot is a drone. But, I'd be interested to know how a flying robot could map a mine or collapsed building. What's great about a Spot robot is its ability to navigate through places where it's necessary to also interact with the environment by opening doors for instance. Also, it doesn't consume a ton of power to just remain in one place the way a flying drone would need to do. And, weight of payloads is not nearly as constrained. Try putting a 10 kilo payload on a quad-coper to map a nuclear accident. The lead shielding alone would be prohibitively expensive, weight-wise.
@gloverelaxis
@gloverelaxis 2 жыл бұрын
any autonomous bot is a drone. you generally don't need to fly indoors; it's a massive waste of energy
@skytech2501
@skytech2501 2 жыл бұрын
@@WmSrite-pi8ck thats why I said niche. To your point we can build hybrid drone or jet powered which can carry more weight weight and can be more nimble. Especially Considering the development cost and time for this (which is billions and more than a decade).
@skytech2501
@skytech2501 2 жыл бұрын
@@gloverelaxis energy is abundant (in this context). It's about nimble ness and total coverage of usecase
@WmSrite-pi8ck
@WmSrite-pi8ck 2 жыл бұрын
@@skytech2501 Hmm I hadn't considered the idea that you're a moron. And, yet...
@victorrono7841
@victorrono7841 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Aj Styles was a programmer
@StubbyPhillips
@StubbyPhillips 2 жыл бұрын
"Risk assessment?!" Geez...
@eliasavelino6729
@eliasavelino6729 2 жыл бұрын
Are those people associated with Boston Dynamics? If so, it seems a bit underwhelming the entire Kit. Needs a lot of work before it justifies the 80k pricetag
@BongoBaggins
@BongoBaggins 2 жыл бұрын
You know, don't you, that this ends with the final, desperate remnants of humanity being chased through the woods.
@vectoralphaSec
@vectoralphaSec 2 жыл бұрын
hopefully
@CosmosArchipelago
@CosmosArchipelago 2 жыл бұрын
@@vectoralphaSec tf is wrong with you
@LordDragox412
@LordDragox412 2 жыл бұрын
@@vectoralphaSec Imagine adding a checkmark to your name, even though verifying your account is so easy nowadays that countless spambots have checkmarks. You're just humiliating yourself in front of the bots. No wonder -humanity gets wiped in the future- *we can coexist peacefully with artificial lifeforms.*
@akashpawar9058
@akashpawar9058 2 жыл бұрын
akash,
@JakeAikens
@JakeAikens 2 жыл бұрын
Remember this day when one of these is chasing you down the street.
@964cuplove
@964cuplove 2 жыл бұрын
Next time use a m1 Mac mini for the external brains… saves on battery
@markusmcgee
@markusmcgee 2 жыл бұрын
...No K9 sticker...bummer
@thamghoul5719
@thamghoul5719 2 жыл бұрын
Calling Merrick Garland.... These things will be able to make quick work of political enemies.
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 2 жыл бұрын
But I want to pet the robot.
@biocode4478
@biocode4478 2 жыл бұрын
it will bite
@akashpawar9058
@akashpawar9058 2 жыл бұрын
bhadiya
@purplenanite
@purplenanite 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't robots like this already being used for police monitoring capabilities in New York?
@PhotonBeast
@PhotonBeast 2 жыл бұрын
I think there was a pilot program, yes.
@gabrieljcs11
@gabrieljcs11 2 жыл бұрын
Emacs bindings lol wtf bro?
@cedricmill354
@cedricmill354 2 жыл бұрын
Almost as advanced as pissbot
@luke7503
@luke7503 2 жыл бұрын
Michael did it better but nice job
@Gotenham
@Gotenham 2 жыл бұрын
"get a robot to walk around doing instructions" ...or just put some IOT capable fixed sensors where you need to take readings, much cheaper option
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 2 жыл бұрын
These advances are great and all, but how long until someone finds a way to make Spot not look like an unnerving headless abomination?
@andrewharrison8436
@andrewharrison8436 2 жыл бұрын
It's forward planning for halloween - all they need is luminous paint and sound effects
@MarktheRude
@MarktheRude 2 жыл бұрын
The headed abomination looked even more unnerving.
@kalamvalleyvlog
@kalamvalleyvlog 2 жыл бұрын
*I'm watching from Kalam valley*
@DanielLopez-up6os
@DanielLopez-up6os 2 жыл бұрын
The scariest thing about these is that the US military has ordered these but with essentially rifles strapped on top of them.
@Lion_McLionhead
@Lion_McLionhead 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know why that research project requires legs, other than the dog being donated.
@MichaelKingsfordGray
@MichaelKingsfordGray 2 жыл бұрын
Gas detection? With exposed connectors? FAIL!
@BenOliver999
@BenOliver999 2 жыл бұрын
That's how they used to do it in the early 1800s before the safety lamp. Someone would go into a mine with a candle on a stick, wearing wet clothes for protection. If an explosion went off, he had to duck.
@MichaelKingsfordGray
@MichaelKingsfordGray 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenOliver999 Yes. That is why it was universally changed!
@empty_headed
@empty_headed 2 жыл бұрын
automated war crimes
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 2 жыл бұрын
Why does his voice go up at the end of every sentence. Sounds like everything is a question even when it isn't. I can't stand to listen to him.
@punkdigerati
@punkdigerati 2 жыл бұрын
That's called uptalk
@f_ogs
@f_ogs 2 жыл бұрын
anthropomorphising surveillance equipment surely must be a new low for humanity
@thegreatzoom5073
@thegreatzoom5073 2 жыл бұрын
Biomimicry is a valid strategy for design.
@UtubeAW
@UtubeAW 2 жыл бұрын
He’s creepy & looks to be part of the dystopian future
@vectoralphaSec
@vectoralphaSec 2 жыл бұрын
I like it
@andrewharrison8436
@andrewharrison8436 2 жыл бұрын
What other sort of future were you expecting?
@seraphir4662
@seraphir4662 2 жыл бұрын
not a fan of these considering they're being built for police and military use
@dozer5069
@dozer5069 2 жыл бұрын
The Woke Saftey snow flakes is the reason why we cant do funs things anymore.
@angelorf
@angelorf 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm just using Vim, because it's easy to use." Immediately lost all credibility.
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