Concept of Caste, Varna and Jati | Q & A with Shri J Sai Deepak

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@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
I went to Meenakshi mall in Bengaluru in Dhoti recently -- Surprisingly it was normal as usual - No one saw me with staring look and I was also comfortable - I think BHART is changing -- I will start wearing Dhoti more often now.
@nivea101
@nivea101 2 жыл бұрын
Where can one find decent readymade dhotis for casual wear?
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
@@nivea101 Ramraj is the best -- They have casual as well as premium
@crypton_8l87
@crypton_8l87 2 жыл бұрын
Women wear saris all the time nobody stares.
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
@@crypton_8l87 New age ladies want attention -- They love others starring at them -- Glam look is actually desired - Men are expected to close their eyes and walk and fall on the road in the process -- Otherwise police case and non bailable warrant under some new IPC section came recently
@gregland5534
@gregland5534 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sanjayshah4372
@sanjayshah4372 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a Brahmin.....but if my life is dedicated to being a Brahmin, that I practice daily and live and breath becoming a Brahmin, then for me to be a Brahmin, NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHT, HAS NO RELIGIOUS RIGHT, NO CULTURAL RIGHT to stop me from being a Brahmin!
@ramaiahhospitals5872
@ramaiahhospitals5872 2 жыл бұрын
I wish a Brahmin say this.
@sanjayshah4372
@sanjayshah4372 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramaiahhospitals5872 People can object, but the FACT remains, within VARNA & JATI system, if you are good enough, you can be part of any caste or more specifically, varna.....including a Brahmin becoming say a warrior caste/varna.
@gb-universe-9001
@gb-universe-9001 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramaiahhospitals5872 There are quite a lot of brahmins who feel this and practice it; but only a few come forward to say it. They don't outwardly say it because, they think that it is irrelevant to voice it.
@sujatharao1826
@sujatharao1826 2 жыл бұрын
Gita says catur varnyam maya srstam guna karma vibhagasah Four divisions are a according to guna-nature and karma-work. So there is no caste system as per Gita. This was a creation of the Britishers to bring divisions in our society. And the foolish and selfish politicians use it to keep us divided. We should now be one as hindus and break all these norms
@souvikchakraborty8055
@souvikchakraborty8055 2 жыл бұрын
I am a brahmin and I agree with sanjay jis statement. A person can be born with brahmin Surname but his acts will ultimately decide if he is worthy of being in the varna or not.
@sagarviswanathan1956
@sagarviswanathan1956 2 жыл бұрын
Sri Sai Deepak is awakening the present and future generations with his clear understanding and view on Hindu religion. The young people are getting very good information from him which will bring them out of the web of secularism and communist propaganda. Excellent conversation 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@takeiteasy4232
@takeiteasy4232 Жыл бұрын
He is retarded. Trying to be out of context and outsmart the audience.
@Anonymo13
@Anonymo13 Жыл бұрын
In Bhagvat Gita Lord Krishna clearly mentions that "Chatur Varna Maya Shrushtam Gun Karma Vibhagsha". This means that I have devised four Varnas (Varna is not caste. It is profession) according to virtues and deeds.
@librralbhakt
@librralbhakt Жыл бұрын
I just have one question, Why did 'Parshuram' reject Karna? Isn't this discrimination? Purely birth based, if it was just "Varna" he would have accepted him as he was raised by brahmin, but Karna was Kshatriya by birth so he was rejected, discrimination is there in the myth by your god, and you want us to believe its just stratification? Very poor argument
@Astitha
@Astitha Жыл бұрын
​@@librralbhakt Sure. Do you also believe that Parashurama was an eternal person? and an avatar of Vishnu who existed at the same time as Krishna, a Yadav? do you also believe that Parashuram was killing all powerful landownding ruler class called Kshatriyas because they were absuing power? My point is if you are looking at meta or underlying narratives in the stories, why do you believe whatever is convenient to you? Karna humiliated during the swaymavar because he was NOT a kshtriya (because his birth was a secret) but in the story of parashuram, he suddenly became kshatriya ? Suyodhana made him king and all was good afterwards isnit it? It means, Suyodhana DIDN"T SAY to karna " hey man, you are born NOT a kshatriya, so you can't be a king". Krishna also karna after his death that he is "Satpurusha" - who upholds dharma. In the end, there are countless stories, several versions of each story across. This is NOT "standard" history book, where you can use to justify a narrative unless you are selective. Mata Amritanandamayi is a Fisher woman daugher. But brahmins, politicians and everybody fall on her feet. Why? India is extremely complex with several contradictory things in the past to form ONE official narrative. My position is if India has started industrialization much earlier or probably NOT colonized, the stratirification would have disappeard naturally as it did in Britian.
@heiAMB
@heiAMB Жыл бұрын
​@@librralbhaktRead Mahabharat before Debate
@btravi6485
@btravi6485 11 ай бұрын
​@@librralbhaktIn order to get clarity You need to study Anushasanika Parva of Mahabharata. You are still suffering from actual answer by virtue of your Rajo Guna means Previous Karma 😊
@harshitajha8183
@harshitajha8183 10 ай бұрын
@@librralbhakt your knowledge is based on the crap sold by tv serials and not the actual literature. If you had read Mahabharata you would know that Karna belonged to Soot jaati which is not lower jaati by any standards. Soot means a progeny born to parents of different jaatis. In karna' s case his father was kshatriya and mother was Brahmin. How is he belonging to lower caste? Vyaas, Sanjay were also Soot. So before forming a malicious opinion go read the actual text. Karna was rejected by Parshuram because he decieved him. Infact karna was the student of Dronacharya. But karna wanted to learn Brahmastra to defeat Arjun, which he was not capable of, therefore he left Dronacharya and went to Parshuram. Kindly read the history.
@politicalkurukshetra4663
@politicalkurukshetra4663 2 жыл бұрын
How could a society fighting each other survive for thousand of years.
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
Society was not fighting -- It started only after this VOTE BANK politics started since 1835 .. British is famous for divide and rule and they were successful in that
@Inner.divinity
@Inner.divinity 2 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with fighting ? A society without conflicts,fighting becomes stagnant and dull..
@IrfannPathan911
@IrfannPathan911 2 жыл бұрын
@@Inner.divinity Do you identify as Communist?
@vishakhasharma2209
@vishakhasharma2209 2 жыл бұрын
Even more surprising is ,how could a society fighting each other had been recognised as "sone ki chidiya" by the world for thousands of years.
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
@@vishakhasharma2209 British could not understand this. That is why they designed 1835 English educatio act and stareted their famous divide and rule policy -- After 1857 first war of indepedence it was all out splitting the society based on caste and caste and planting the seed of hatred among each other.. This was done very cleverly to push their agenda of ruling India.. But for 1945 world war II and bombing Japan , British would not have left India . America put restriction of end colonization when they formed UN in 1945. We thought two great leaders brought us Independence -- That is not true -- 56 common wealth countries which once ruled by British Queen got indepedence - How ? . This is because of 1945 World War II ending with nucler Bomb which shook the world. Rest is histroy .. In India congress exploited the situation till 2014 ..
@Sir_Realist
@Sir_Realist 10 ай бұрын
Chaturvarna divides followers of Sanatana Dharma into four Varnas (classes). It is mentioned in the Rig Veda, the oldest of the four Vedas. It is important to recognise that Caste and Varna are different. Chaturvarna is mentioned in the Bhagwad Gita by Shri Krishna. It based on a person’s “gunas”. Gunas are attributes/qualifications. It is not hereditary. It is also important to distinguish between Hinduism and Sanatana Dharma. Both Hindus and Sanatanis draw their belief system from the scriptures. However Hinduism is a derivative of Sanatana Dharma that has been anglicised by the incorporation of a number of colonial terms, such as Caste, God, Lord, gods, goddesses etc. none of which are mentioned in the scriptures. The term Hinduism itself is an anglicised version, derived name for this religion. It is derived from Sapta Sindhu which referred to an area of the sub-continent. The Persians corrupted it to Hindu to refer to people East of the Hindukush mountains. Caste, which is accepted as hereditary by Hindus has been incorporated into Hinduism. However if a person considers themselves as Sanatanis, they have to reject Caste and embrace Varna, which is based on one’s occupation. Accordingly in Sanatana Dharma the Varnas are as follows: a Brahmin is a priest by occupation, who is knowledgeable of the Vedas, performs pujas and typically associated with a Mandir. A Kshatriya is a warrior. Vaishya is a self employed person, a business person, an entrepreneur. A Shudra is a person who works for someone else and gets paid. In short, Hindus embrace Caste, which is considered hereditary. Sanatanis embrace Varna which is based on occupation. It is hoped that this clarifies the issue of Caste and Varna. Jati is based on a person’s association with a community. It can be compared to Class. There are thousands of Jatis. Like Zamindars, fisherfolk, shepherd, toddy tappers etc. Typically marriages were within a community and son’s followed their father’s profession. It tends to be hereditary. For instance a person will be identified as so and so from such and such community. Bharat has implemented a reservation system that includes Jatis as Scheduled Castes. This includes reservation for Scheduled Caste (SC), Scheduled Tribes (ST) and Other Backward Class (OBC). OBC is a collective term to classify castes that are educationally or socially backward.
@bismibose5443
@bismibose5443 10 ай бұрын
What about the avarnas
@sidharthapatra4296
@sidharthapatra4296 10 ай бұрын
@@bismibose5443 Avarna - 1- Nishada - forest dwellers (adivasi) 2- Chandala - offspring of brahmin woman and shudra/Nishada man 3- Agyava- offspring of kshatriya woman and shudra/Nishada man 4- Paulkasa - offspring of Vaishya woman and shudra/Nishada man. All the above groups are considered untouchables and later became dalits
@2011var
@2011var 7 ай бұрын
Explanation of J Sai Deepak is the best reply possible in today's world. Absolutely outstanding and excellent.
@hardyanshchawdi9512
@hardyanshchawdi9512 2 жыл бұрын
May God give you a long and happy life so that u can illuminate our young generation....
@deepachakravarthy9619
@deepachakravarthy9619 2 жыл бұрын
Yes- Varna was a social matrix; Jati is karmic identity that comes because of your birth. One cant change the jati; but varna accommodated social mobility from Vedic times to medieval times. If anyone says it was rigid- then, that aspect of history is stained- like looking thru a tiny keyhole. Women were very much part of vocation; not restricted to farming. Weaving, pottert etc were family vocations where women played an important role in the preparatory stages of the vocation.
@Inner.divinity
@Inner.divinity 2 жыл бұрын
Jati is identity of your Kula or family/ clan based on its traditional profession, Varna is determined by your individual merit, traits and profession
@trshams575
@trshams575 2 жыл бұрын
Differences are natural, real, essential. Architecture of society that makes harmonious, compatible is based on classification principle. Caste architecture and structure must be looked at from this perspective. There is no higher or lower caste as being made out by news papers and politicians. Shame on these motor mouth types. Faculty of speech and writing is very powerful and precious, to be used very very carefully not with careless arrogance and abandon. Mouthing with arrogance is deadly.
@madhurichoubey91
@madhurichoubey91 6 ай бұрын
There's a confusion, in kundali ones varn is shown. If varn is related to occupational and not karmic identity or innate quality then why it's shown in kundali? While jati is not shown in kundali
@anandkumargupta329
@anandkumargupta329 2 жыл бұрын
A man of clear thoughts...have to spread videos in Hindi translation as those of Sadguru
@vishakhasharma2209
@vishakhasharma2209 2 жыл бұрын
Yes yes
@cloudless_night
@cloudless_night Жыл бұрын
This is how caste mentality remains relevant. Good job Mr Sai, keep this derogatory practice alive !
@crikitikot
@crikitikot Жыл бұрын
Stay naive. You people want the marxist theory of caste in order to take the benefits and keep on abusing Brahmins for your incapabilities
@Saurabhkumar-bn3dl
@Saurabhkumar-bn3dl Жыл бұрын
He literally said to remove discriminatory mentality, yet filthy mind of yours is stuck on that only. I wonder whose mentality is retarted?
@magnart
@magnart 2 жыл бұрын
I think the point that there are those who have rhe urge to argue and change things in their world vs those who want to destroy it with external wearing is a good insight.
@hereis2u
@hereis2u 2 жыл бұрын
We are so gifted to have the likes of J Sai Deepak Dr Anand Renganathan Annamalai IPS and Tejasvi Surya championing our cause
@r.b.8018
@r.b.8018 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying this for years. Stratification is not discriminatory. We don’t have proof of such discrimination that we believe there is between Castes. What we see today we do not know if we had such hatred between this jati to jati 400-200yrs ago.
@laique8797
@laique8797 2 жыл бұрын
The learned Brāhmaṇa shall, not eat the cooked food of the Śūdra who performs no śrāddhas. In the absence of livelihood, he may receive from him raw grain sufficient for one day.-(Manusmriti 4.223) Yeah 💥💥 British invented the Manusmriti and Untouchability...
@vivekmad2010
@vivekmad2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@laique8797 How africans were treated by english?
@laique8797
@laique8797 2 жыл бұрын
@@vivekmad2010 treatment of Black Africans by the british were far far better than the treatment the Dalits and lower castes received in Indian Subcontinent, un point c'est tout.....
@vivekmad2010
@vivekmad2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@laique8797 Are you serious or just joking...Please read the blood shed africans history and comment. Even animals were treated better than blacks..They were used as slaves to build railway lines, bridges...chased out of their own land to pave way for gold mine excavation..These were done brutally without any mercy. Not only in Africa, but also in America their attrocities continued. You should read about how red indians were killed, chased out of their land America and these fellows occupied their land...
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
@@laique8797 There were boards in India in British officers house " DOGS and INDIAN can not enter " is it written in Manu smirithi ?. Racism is hall mark of europe they imported it in 1857 .. SRIRAM eat in SHABARI's Ashram .. Vaadiraja Guru accepted KANAKADASA as his shishya .. K J YESU DAS ( christain ) became famous desciple of CHAMBAI VAIDYANATHA BHAGAWATHAR ( DOYEN OF Carnatic Music ) a staunch Brahmin ..
@shraddha8232
@shraddha8232 Жыл бұрын
Why is KZbin not promoting this gold content! I wonder!
@LinusWelt
@LinusWelt Жыл бұрын
Du hast völlig Recht.
@aditya4487
@aditya4487 10 ай бұрын
actually entire twitter,ig and youtube has been controlled by left wing for years and i think this will continue for more years or so
@krishnamoorthyiyer8805
@krishnamoorthyiyer8805 2 жыл бұрын
One of India's finest public intellectuals today.
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
No use -- Government policy does not get influenced by JSD's brilliant points -- Only currency political party uses is HOW TO CATCH VOTES ANY WHICH WAY?.. BJP is also in this race -- Unless we address the election system totally and bring in MERIT based representation of people we will have vicarious pleasure of listening to such brilliant talk -- practically nothing will happen on ground
@krishnamoorthyiyer8805
@krishnamoorthyiyer8805 Жыл бұрын
@@spg6651 I wouldn't be too sure of that -- seems overly pessimistic to conclude so, IMO. The point of the thought and writings of an intellectual of the caliber of J. Sai Deepak is not that it immediately influences policy (an unrealistic hope, IMO), but that his work -- sufficiently publicised -- shifts the Overton window so that more people start pondering over the matters he has raised. I expect that his ideas will influence policy in about 20 years' time. (Recall Swami Vivekananda's dictum "No power on Earth can stop an idea whose time has come"). Until then, our responsibility is to ensure that he continues to get support he needs from both (other) intellectuals and/or (if required) the moneyed classes.
@kingnrupatunga
@kingnrupatunga 11 ай бұрын
Right wing poster boy 😂😂😂
@gauravverma9398
@gauravverma9398 Жыл бұрын
J Sai Deepak -Modern Day Gem of Bharat ❤❤❤
@thelazydreamer3217
@thelazydreamer3217 Жыл бұрын
😢My english is not much good but I Iove to listen this man ❤.
@rayadutta2010
@rayadutta2010 Жыл бұрын
That's nice, Work on the conversation skills and also focus on the content of the video.
@Rama-Rama74
@Rama-Rama74 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, full of substance to the point!
@sangitasarma9525
@sangitasarma9525 2 жыл бұрын
This conversation need to be circulate in every languages of India.Please channel owner try to do this.🙏🌺🙏
@commonman6304
@commonman6304 Жыл бұрын
1. Caste System is based on Vocation/Profession & Food Habits.. takings Society/Family as a Unit 2. Varna is based on the Quality of the Mind.. taking Individual as a Unit (but Not a Family) 3. Jathi.. a Combination of Families/Societies living together.. taking the Geographic Nature of the Land as a Unit (since there were No comfortable Transportation facilities in good olden days)
@alpeshmittal3779
@alpeshmittal3779 Жыл бұрын
Read yajurveda which mentions chandal. It's example of birth based varna system and fifth varna. So it was not based on karma atleast since yajurveda.
@pedadasiddardha9655
@pedadasiddardha9655 11 ай бұрын
​@@alpeshmittal3779it is you who should read yajurveda properly and also the yajurveda which you are telling tells about the quality And also keep this in mind that before telling about yajurveda please read Bhagavad Gita where where it is clearly mentioned that Varna is completely based on Guna Karma
@pedadasiddardha9655
@pedadasiddardha9655 11 ай бұрын
​@@alpeshmittal3779it is you who should read yajurveda properly and also the yajurveda which you are telling tells about the quality And also keep this in mind that before telling about yajurveda please read Bhagavad Gita where where it is clearly mentioned that Varna is completely based on Guna Karma
@Aaqibbasheer
@Aaqibbasheer 6 ай бұрын
I'm a Muslim, which I should not have mentioned but it doesn't matter, but for those who think I'll about us , I find the arguments of Sai Deepak absolutely phenomenal and reasonable.
@bismibose5443
@bismibose5443 10 ай бұрын
I belonged to a caste who were not allowed to enter a temple till 1936 temple entry proclamation in travancore state If it is not discrimination what else it is
@pedadasiddardha9655
@pedadasiddardha9655 8 ай бұрын
Then what about the protestants which are not allowed to step in catholic churches is this not discrimination , you are speaking something about 1936 then you should know that in the same year so many temples lower community people you are also allowed without any discrimination inside the temple
@arjoroychoudhury6952
@arjoroychoudhury6952 7 ай бұрын
Exclusion is not discrimination. Jo shastra Mein likha gaya Hai usey aap follow nahi karoge toh phir aapko moksh ki prapti kaise hogi?
@Fhjkkkkgfddffgh
@Fhjkkkkgfddffgh 5 ай бұрын
​@@arjoroychoudhury6952 kisi Brahman ne chhuwachhoot ka virodh kyon nhi Kiya ?
@Divine_wave23
@Divine_wave23 5 ай бұрын
​@@arjoroychoudhury6952shastras are written by foreign brahmins
@supriyapan9297
@supriyapan9297 2 ай бұрын
@@arjoroychoudhury6952 and the shastras are written by Brahmins and now a representative of Brahmins is giving lecture to Shudras! Wah re Wah!
@parth5441
@parth5441 Жыл бұрын
Let me quote Geeta, Chapter 4 Verse 13: Chaturvarna Mayasrishtong Gunakarma Bibhagasha. Means Varnas were classified according to Gunakarma i.e. according to Guna(qualities) and Karma(nature of their work), not according to birth but society made it by birth. This is against the Scripture. The divisions are there, Brahmans(intellectuals), Khatriyas(rulers), Vaisyas(producers and businessmen), Shudras(labour). Even today there are Labour Parties in USA, UK and Australia. In China, there is Dictatorship of the Proletariat(labour). So, those divisions had always been there but never it was by birth but according to the qualities and nature of work of the people. So, let us not commit the sin by making it by birth.
@khushgada9802
@khushgada9802 5 ай бұрын
It is always a treat to listen to J Sai Deepak
@spartaautube
@spartaautube 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a Brahmin but I respect Brahmins very much. They have been the torchbearers of the Hindu society. Sadly though they are made to feel ashamed of their caste and do away with their duties towards the Hindu dharma.
@devikarani9244
@devikarani9244 2 жыл бұрын
Some Brahmins are always proud of themselves, without achieving anything.
@spartaautube
@spartaautube 2 жыл бұрын
@@devikarani9244 what has your community achieved?
@devikarani9244
@devikarani9244 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuruGranthGovind brahmins didn't allow anybody to learn - which you have mentioned above. See Muslims cover-up paigambers 9 year rape case, Christians cover-up Jesus creating story. Communists cover-up their murders and destruction of culture And tradition. SC/ST cover-up looting. Brahmins cover-up their stupidity and exploitation. Other so called people who call themselves upper cast cover-up their crimes.
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
Vedic Pandits with lot of knowledge studied VEDA for more than 20 years, do not get girls for marriage -- They wait till 40 years and then decide to remain like that -- No girls want to call their husband as PUROHITs - which is very bad word -- Money wise they are well off with all the modern facilities they posses -- The title PUROHIT is what girls do not want .. Very sad
@viswakanth9002
@viswakanth9002 Жыл бұрын
Brahmins are most privileged cast with zero contribution to society....
@logisticview
@logisticview Жыл бұрын
These people still believes that bramans born from mouth and shudras are born from feet.... talk and words are always nice to hear...
@rahulsingh7508
@rahulsingh7508 Жыл бұрын
Clearly, JSD hasn't read Dr B R Ambedkar's The Annihilation of Caste.
@Mohanraj-fe3uj
@Mohanraj-fe3uj Жыл бұрын
It is not that the speaker is not aware of what Dr. Ambedkar said. But, he wants us to avoid critical thinking. This is called "Systematic bias".
@Viswadrik
@Viswadrik 9 ай бұрын
It is not worth reading. I have read it and hence say this.
@Pratuyashachaki
@Pratuyashachaki 8 ай бұрын
​@@Viswadrikwhy can you please please please explain? As a person who is very much curious about the truth want to know thi Please help me on this 🙏
@Viswadrik
@Viswadrik 8 ай бұрын
@@Pratuyashachaki Sure. Please tell me what specifically you want to know.
@Pratuyashachaki
@Pratuyashachaki 8 ай бұрын
@@Viswadrik as a born sanatani what i observed as a 19 years old that the core of sanatan dharma is actually about seeking of truth may be there are some cultures which is not applicable in today society But overall this dharma talks about living in harmony with everything and evryone, even nature. But when there is threat about our existence then of course will will fight that not to prove that we are the highest of all but to convey that we are not weak just because we respect everyone and it is what we call as nyaay. (न्याय) But It's sad that most of the sanatani people act like the outsider people who enjoy criticizing out culture by pointing out It's mistakes but totally neglecting the core part of the culture what it conveys I am not saying we shouldn’t discuss about It's mistakes But we must not always forget It’s greater broader part of life Just as a bharatiya sanatani want to know your thought on this and if you could suggest me any book about the raw true history of india 🙏🏻
@khprasad2272
@khprasad2272 2 жыл бұрын
Can Sai prove that there was no castesim and discrimination before Dutch...may be Dutch would have named it as caste but he can refer such discrimination in Manu sasthra and vedas...are manu sasthra and vedas after Dutch?
@Bingojingo646
@Bingojingo646 10 ай бұрын
Yes.. Indian society had no caste identity..Thats why higher castes forced women of lower caste to pay Breast tax ( Mullakaram) in Kerala.... And even the acts of pouring molten lead into ears of Shudhras is also an act of compassion...❣️❣️❣️
@Unity108
@Unity108 6 ай бұрын
Are these behaviours prescribed in the Veda's & Shastra's or are they human corruptions ?
@Bingojingo646
@Bingojingo646 6 ай бұрын
@@Unity108 Casteism stands firm on casteist Hindu literatures..
@ErisTitan
@ErisTitan 4 ай бұрын
Caste is a Portuguese word. Hindu scriptures were all written in Sanskrit. ​@@Bingojingo646
@ErisTitan
@ErisTitan 4 ай бұрын
Ok Christian
@Bingojingo646
@Bingojingo646 4 ай бұрын
@@ErisTitan Agnostic actually... There are shameful things in Christian and Muslim literature too... But denying the existence of such things in Hinduism is funny..
@alpeshmittal3779
@alpeshmittal3779 Жыл бұрын
Caste is invention of Hinduism or sanatan dharma. When people converted to other religions from Hindu eg Sikh, Christianity and Islam their social status didn't change and society didn't forget their caste. That's why you see caste in other religions in india. It's not the case for Muslims and Christians outside india. Main difference between class which you find in almost every feudal society and caste in India is 1. Caste was determined by birth with no social mobility 2. Endogamy no intercaste marriages especially with lower caste or out caste (both are different). Last anybody who is blaming Muslims or British for caste discrimination is purposefully lying.
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654 Жыл бұрын
There is caste among Arab Muslims, Sheik or Amir is the ruling class and it is by birth, in Sri Lanka there are untouchables by birth who are not allowed to enter temples of Buddha, in India asraf and pasmanda can not marry, in Japan Cambodia there are untouchables
@gghjiokl-rr8vu
@gghjiokl-rr8vu Жыл бұрын
They propagate use false things to defMe us what you saying is ignorance idi Ot
@mask2705
@mask2705 2 жыл бұрын
One thing is sure. No one can argue with those who call themselves "Brahmins" for the simple fact that they would simply and repeatedly say, "what you say is not right, what you say is not the original meaning, what I say, as the meaning of what is said in vedas, are correct (but I will change it from time to time to suit my purpose), what you say(accuse) never existed in the sacred Bharath, every human being in this world is actually a Hindu, all the good things of Bharath are because of Hindus, all the bad things are because of invaders and people of other beliefs, Hinduism is flawless...."
@shubhamk840
@shubhamk840 8 ай бұрын
I was searching for this comment , finally got it. Now I can sleep peacefully.
@mask2705
@mask2705 8 ай бұрын
@@shubhamk840 😀so you mean read it sometime back and needed it again now? why did you have to look for this again?
@saurabhstrauss
@saurabhstrauss Жыл бұрын
We have inscription in Rajasthan (956 Ad) which clearly tells that there were castes existing. Even justice was based on caste. Brahamins wre given least punishment and shudras were given maximum. Sai smartly escaped the question. He didn't answer simple question that was there caste and untouchability before colonization. He is softly supporting it. He is supporting caste system by giving examples. No brahamins will ever accept this. But problem is power to speak was in hands brahamins than and power to speak is still in their hands even today.
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654 Жыл бұрын
Why in manusmriti the punishment of Brahmins is 128 times of a shudra, why Brahmin has to beg and live a life of deattachment and aparigraha according to the same book
@steelcross628
@steelcross628 6 ай бұрын
​@@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654"abe oh Whitewasher Usne Ek Dum Sahi kaha ki Tum Brahman Ek no ke Dhoort aur Makkar Hote ho aur Whitewasher Hote ho Uss Manusmriti ko Dhyan Se Padh Anpadh ki Aulad Manusmriti mein 18 Prakar ke Nyay hain usmein se ek yeh joh Chori wala hai Usmein Upar Varna ko Saja Jada woh Bhi Financial Saja hai Usi Manusmriti mein Jitni bhi Physical Atrocities ki Saja wahan Sabse Jada Saja Shudra ko hi hai hai Fraud Whitewasher kahin ke"
@steelcross628
@steelcross628 6 ай бұрын
​@@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654"Tere is 2Kaudi ke J Sai Deepka Whitewasher Ki Aisi Ki Taisi Sala Brahaman jo hai Whitewashing toh karega hi"
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654 6 ай бұрын
@@steelcross628 suno be kori, tum or dalit to apas me shadi karte the 1000 o sal se, fir achanak brahmno ke kehne se chor die
@steelcross628
@steelcross628 6 ай бұрын
@@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654"Phat gayi 😂😂😂😂Abhi Manusmriti se Proganda Kar Raha tha Aur jaise hi Sacchai Bahar aayi Usi se Aand Phat Gayi 😂😂waha Re Dhoort Kapti makkar Brahaman Yahi Sacchai toh Ugalwani teri"
@NimbusWizard
@NimbusWizard 9 ай бұрын
Ekalavya was not given education by Dronacharya due to his caste. Dronacharya received abuses from Kauravas that he doesn’t belong in the battlefield being a non-kshatriya. These are just 2 examples of caste divide directly picked up from the indian epic - Mahabharata. The caste divide has always been there. We as Hindus should take necessary steps to get rid of it completely. No human is superior/inferior to another just based on birth. JSD is just catering to the English speaking audience telling them whatever they want to hear. What’s wrong with criticising our own history and culture where someone was wronged. We accept it, and make necessary changes. There’s no point claiming we were the perfect civilisation. No civilisation was. As a society we make mistakes. We accept them. And try our best not to make it again.
@pedadasiddardha9655
@pedadasiddardha9655 8 ай бұрын
Tell this to people like you who doesn't even read Mahabharata and Ramayan properly Before telling about the chapter of Ekalavya and Dronacharya please read Mahabharat properly Dronacharya denied to teach Ekalavya because he was bound (similar to agreement bond signed by employees before taking the job )to teach only Kuru Prince and their associates you are telling Dronacharya was abused from Kauravas as is non Kshatriya and doesn't belong to battlefield then what about Ashwathama(Dronacharya son) who was closed associated to Duryodhan who fighting from day 1 for kauravas and also you should know that Dronacharya is the chief strategist who was participating in the war since first day and he is the one who created chakravyuh in absence of Arjuna
@pedadasiddardha9655
@pedadasiddardha9655 8 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong in criticizing the history and we should ask if they really wrong is present instead of Making false statements like you without learning complete details
@pedadasiddardha9655
@pedadasiddardha9655 8 ай бұрын
First learn history properly
@jayakumarm4085
@jayakumarm4085 2 жыл бұрын
🌺Meritorious Move🌹 Olympian and multiple Asean games Gold medalist P T Usha to Lead Indian Olympic Association ...🌻 She is a nominated Rajyasabha member ...yes glimpse of tread towards Prosperity...
@jjayaraman3191
@jjayaraman3191 2 жыл бұрын
#Sai #Deepak #SaiDeepak ji. (1) Saindhavas => Sindhu (ocean. -like river) - Greek European nomenclature Aindhavas => Indhu (moon, mother, stable feeling) - HyunTsang (2) (this point left out): the Zend Avestan in Gathas of Zarathushtra (which by Rigvedic kingly concordance and one war-treaty is datable prior to 3000BCE) uses same grammar as Sanskrit [ Also it uses the specific forms for "by/with" subsumed into one raameNa; and "from/than" subsumed into raamaath in Sanskrit, but the two in each case (#3 & #5) are identified SEPARATELY in Tamil "raamanaal, raamanudan" and "raamanil irundhu/raamanai vida" as they are in Persian Gathas' vedic metred mantras also !] The Gathaic Sanskrit consistently substitutes "s" with "h" (soma/homa; sindhu/hindu; ahura/asura. Asura therein meaning the god-obedient creatures Deiva meaning the rebels ! These are therefore duals upon attaining a certain maturity (purity, consistency within their systems) then qualify to the Game of Churning for Amruta, Elixir. Note: the mid churning Rod, is therefore the Balance Sensor, ie " media" (one half-face is direct sensory knowledge, and the other opposite-facing, is "sutas" ie modern media. The latter when reporting out of sync with feeling in each Heart, are labled Raakshas. (3) the hindu-ness (hindu-tva) demands that after losing a debate and acknowledging defeat publicly, the defeated shall not raise their defunct point of view in other limited forae. This, today applies to the 'imp-propa'ganda of barking that Sangam and Tamil are a culture disconnected/at war with VedaAgam) in attitude to self and environment. (4) (not mentioned): The Sangam Literature detailing Sangam Life, encompasses all Agro-Forest-Hunter-Gatherer cultural communities. Dharma.Artha.Kama. (aRam, poruL, inbam nukarchi resply.) are primary. Moksha (self-knowledge) is only subliminally held as natural consequence of order in the triad above.... Ananda Shanti. The Vedaagamic yajna is dominantly above Vindhyas, is truly uniquely "Urban" in Indian terms. Special accent exists for Moksha dharma. As it deals, (as true sagely royalty must, with direct taking on of transience and death of body-consciousness. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZa9eZZ7qq93qc0 (2) SANSKRIT is Deva bhasha = not spoken by humans. Humans can speak and will generate ONLY dialects. Especially after putting sabdam, syntax-laden sound down to WRITING While these Dialectal forms of "urban" North of Vindhyas subsist directly under Sanskrit and since Moghul rule got assimilated into Hindi and Urdu (zend/saama-nic influence masking the Sanskrit "cloud" above. The south of Vindhyas dialects were assimilated much much much earlier by Agastya Rishi (qv., Haalasya Mahaatmyam section on Siva-Parvati marriage events) into a sub Cloud, Tamil as representative grammar for dialectal formations under a much vaster agro-forest-hunter-gather- maritime- desert eco-graphy surrounding VedaAgamaSangama Bharat Varsha. In the light of the precedent post. (3) Deluge of Literary Evidence for All to hear from mind boggLing variety of sources at the ongoing Kashi Sangam Scholarly Deliberations. Kasi-Rameshwaram-yaazhPaanar ("Apana") and the Kanyakumari to Kashi return "Prana" keeping the Vedagama Sangam Socio Economics ("Engine") running time defiant and solid. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXLQgWWDqd-of6M&feature=share ....
@vish2553
@vish2553 2 жыл бұрын
Yawn 🥱
@ssi44
@ssi44 2 жыл бұрын
extraordinary
@sudhansukumarbal3419
@sudhansukumarbal3419 Ай бұрын
Nice video
@itguy7336
@itguy7336 8 ай бұрын
I was trying to grasp the depth of his words. He is normalizing hereditary professions ( makes sense by ancient standards ) and normalizes the discrimination based on power disparity ( makes sense ) separately. But how that disparity emerged ? If it is just based on profession , what are the job descriptions of a brahmin and that of a chandal that led to economic imbalance between these two groups ? And one last thing is that having a family profession as preference is one thing, but having a taboo on a chandal to take up a brahmin's job is another. Was that choice available ?
@Dharmakumar-no4gy
@Dharmakumar-no4gy Жыл бұрын
why would I want to remain in a cast know for S1ht cleaning? your argument is flawed sai deepak.
@simfinso858
@simfinso858 9 ай бұрын
4 Varna is created by me said Lord Krishna in Bhagvad Gita Aadhya 4 Shloka no 13...
@pedadasiddardha9655
@pedadasiddardha9655 8 ай бұрын
really tell this to missionary s coundral p ig like you This is what which is there in Bhagavad Gita 4.13 chatur varayam maya srishtam guna karma vibhagahah tasya kartaram api mam viddhyakartaram avyayam The four categories of occupations were created by Me according to people’s qualities and activities. Although I am the Creator of this system, know Me to be the Non-doer and Eternal.
@simfinso858
@simfinso858 8 ай бұрын
@@pedadasiddardha9655 Biggest Dumb and idiots like you who knows nothing about Sanatan Dharma are just creating confusion among new devotees.... Tell me how You will decide a caste of a newly Born Baby ? How you will decide at very first place that he is Brahmin or Kshatriya and then he changed his caste?. For changing caste first you have to Accept some caste . Your Paren'ts caste is your your caste which is by Birth. Then if you don't follow your caste then in it is called "ParaDharma " . And" ParaDharma is Bhayavah" According Aadhaya 3 sholka 35. Apply Some logic You self declared Pandit and try to understand what is written in Bhagvad Gita.
@eshwarswaminathan3031
@eshwarswaminathan3031 2 жыл бұрын
All caste people are priest All caste people are in politics ( Jayalalitha) All caste people are in business ( TVS , Infosys) All caste people are shudras I have seen Brahmins coconut tree climbers
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen Brahmin good welders and Wing commander ABHINANDAN VARTHAMAN who is FIgher PILOT in Inian air force is a practicing Brahmin -- Have seen Brahmin Bus driver as well . in Farming there are plenty of bRahmins are there and many farmers got national award also for farming example : ADDOR SHIVASHANKAR who got national award is a Brahmin
@eshwarswaminathan3031
@eshwarswaminathan3031 2 жыл бұрын
@@spg6651 Presently they are in many jobs Olden days only minimum minority are in different jobs
@eshwarswaminathan3031
@eshwarswaminathan3031 2 жыл бұрын
@@spg6651 Engineers and doctors are there
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
@@eshwarswaminathan3031 Life is not about CAR and BUGLOW and equating present day life is superior to olden days can happe only due to high level of ignorance -- When person dies people do not talk about his SUV and big bunglow -- People talk about how good that person was. People in the olden days had soul which is missing now -- I am hopeful and will restore back one day
@pvaidyan
@pvaidyan 2 жыл бұрын
@@spg6651 - Add Parashurama to the list.. If warranted - the Brahmins will lift arms & have the liberty to embrace alms
@amitpratap7551
@amitpratap7551 2 жыл бұрын
I am from a Vaishya Jaati but Kshatriya and Shudra by Varna in two phases of my life😊😊
@surendramurthy877
@surendramurthy877 2 жыл бұрын
Cringy
@raay411
@raay411 Жыл бұрын
Why can't you be a simple human.
@asguy5985
@asguy5985 Жыл бұрын
@@raay411 you will get a identity what you do where you live.. If you are studying geology you will be called as geologist in same way his hubby may be fighting or professionally a police or a army is called as khetriya (warrior)
@alpeshmittal3779
@alpeshmittal3779 Жыл бұрын
If you go by that then everyone keeps changing their varna many times just in one day depending upon thoughts and roles they are playing. Why do you see the need to divide people into different groups then. Original varna system out of which caste system originated was birth based. Read yajurveda which mentions chandal and other outcastes and gives their definition. So by definition it's self evident that it was birth based atleast since then. Bhagwat Gita in its first parv itself talks about jaati. Mahabharat has many examples of birth based varna system and with that context birth based varna system interpretation of Bhagwat Gita is more honest and authentic. 🙏
@HinduPhoenix
@HinduPhoenix Жыл бұрын
​​@@alpeshmittal3779 if it was birth based then no issues in annihilating them... These type of discriminatory practices should not exist
@pradeepkb9678
@pradeepkb9678 Жыл бұрын
Ekalavya’s thumb was not cut by the British. There was untouchability different punishment based upon cast.
@raghavjoshi8587
@raghavjoshi8587 Жыл бұрын
In Mahabharata acharya dronacharya was not allowed to fight and told to get out of ratha because he was Brahmin and it's not job of Brahmin to fight and you tell me there was no discrimination against Brahmin go and check your facts first and also in case of dronacharya it was not casteism but it was that he made promise to father of Arjuna that he will make him the greatest and no other will be as greater than him that was main reason And i do agree in Mahabharat karna faced caste discrimination by parshuram
@KartikeyKushwaha-n3t
@KartikeyKushwaha-n3t Жыл бұрын
Eklavya was a son of kshatriya check your facts bro😅😅😅😅you people listen some people say eklavya was sc/st. And blindly belive it. Eklavyas thumb was not cut because of his caste but because of his talent in archery which surpasses arjun's atleast know your culture and roots bro😊😊😊😊 jai shree ram
@KartikeyKushwaha-n3t
@KartikeyKushwaha-n3t Жыл бұрын
​@@raghavjoshi8587 Karna didnt face caste discrimination in Mahabharat. The eligibility for becoming Parashuram disciple is you should be brahman by birth. We don't question eligibility in many cases in current scenario so it was eligibility or restriction of that time period.
@pradeepkb9678
@pradeepkb9678 Жыл бұрын
@@KartikeyKushwaha-n3t ‘surpasses Arjun’ this is what I wanted to hear. Our Arjuna award should be renamed.😂
@KartikeyKushwaha-n3t
@KartikeyKushwaha-n3t Жыл бұрын
@@pradeepkb9678 there is eklavya award also there is no need to change arjun award name. Because Arjun was the master of archery in his era.
@ananthganapathihegde9930
@ananthganapathihegde9930 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼 Jai Sai Deepak 🙏🏼
@Roar1921
@Roar1921 2 жыл бұрын
There's discrimination within the SC ST community, within the Xian community, within the Muslim community. They follow their caste hierarchy even after converting. Every invader felt he was superior. Feeling superior is a human asuric quality at work. However, cultural habits, eating habits and rituals are exclusive to many. Even muslims are picky abt halal, etc. Same way a particular community keeps sanctity of certain habits. And it is difficult to co exist with differing communities on a daily basis. It is more for practical reasons than anything else. In Singapore, they specially put advertisements for rent saying 'Indians don't apply' bcz they don't want their house to smell like masalas. But if a vegetarian in India says he wants to rent to a vegetarian, it is seen as casteist. We need to try not to look at everything with a western lens. Biases can make us see everything in negative light. The social preferences are complex.
@Anonymous-xz1ym
@Anonymous-xz1ym 2 жыл бұрын
Muh idea of preserving Veganism It's false and you are simply trying to justify under the garb of habits.... moreover there are literal people who won't sell their land to certain groups and this does have the issue of caste.....even now this is common, and the idea of Veganism is also false, their are many non Brahmins who are vegans and many Brahmins who are meat eaters..... You are simply making assumptions to prove your point
@SATYASRINIVASRAVADAIITKGP
@SATYASRINIVASRAVADAIITKGP Жыл бұрын
When will dalit born child will become head priest in ttd,all major temples
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654 Жыл бұрын
Already in many temples,do google
@rush-me
@rush-me 2 жыл бұрын
Nature itself is not uniform or homogeneous. Diversity is not going against equality it is about acknowledging and respecting the duties and responsibilities of each diversity. If all the fingers in our hands are same we as human beings would not have been able to create tools.
@sreerag4550
@sreerag4550 Жыл бұрын
I am a dalit by birth I want to be a preist in a temple is it possible?
@ankur2766
@ankur2766 Жыл бұрын
Yes, you can be anything you want, that's what the Varna system meant, freedom of Choice
@Astitha
@Astitha Жыл бұрын
Please make me a priest because I'm dalit won't work. What will work is " I want to become a priest by studying the Hindu philosophy , I want to do rituals that would bring solace to believers , I want to get education to become a priest" and then it's easily possible in the current environment. Easily. Try it for yourself. Maa Amritanandamayi was a lower caste women born into fisher man's family. All the Brahmins fall under her feet. Dnt you know that ? Check out Tirupati Priests falling under Ilayaraja Feet on KZbin. Not day by day Brahmins, but Tirupati Temple priests falling on Ilayaraja Feet. The point is many dalit saints are worshipped by people of all castes. This notion that you will not be given a priesthood just because you are dalit is NOT true anymore. It was in the past , before industrialization era , during colonial era, when entire India was in chaos due to perso-tuko-british colonization.
@sreerag4550
@sreerag4550 Жыл бұрын
@@Astitha Is there any dalit preist in any temple like tirupati, Madurai, Sabarimala at present? Why is it so...i don't think that our society has changed.
@Astitha
@Astitha Жыл бұрын
@@sreerag4550 society has still lot many inequalities. Dalits don't own land as much as middle caste groups irrespective of religions (most caste discrimination happens among Muslims. Check the PEW poll on caste attitudes in india) Becoming a priests in these big temples have their own competition. When once set of family gets entrenched it's difficult to leave those posts. They will bring in their relatives etc. Look at DMK. The party that was supposedly against hereditary based casteim is also perpetrating the same. Karunanidhi, his son, his grand son and family members don't leave the party to others ? In certain posts/positions, there is power involved and irrespective of idealogy, people won't leave those. Even in Muslims only Querishis are taken for granted for certain positions. The question is not to ask why there are NO dalit priests in temples. Irrespective of casteim lot of power structures are at play. The current question is to ask is why are the so called HindubCasteist people fall at the feet of spiritual Dalits too ? Because irrespective of how caste plays out in social/education/political sectors, in spiritual realms everyone respects each other. You should see that
@adityabalpande7742
@adityabalpande7742 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is possible . Anyone can become priest
@hemanginiparmar8271
@hemanginiparmar8271 Жыл бұрын
1:41 even being doctor, engineer, commerce graduate is the example of stratification not hierarchical but it has become hierarchical...
@Divine_wave23
@Divine_wave23 5 ай бұрын
But it is not based on birth .caste is based on birth
@friendypreneur3241
@friendypreneur3241 2 жыл бұрын
Why he speaking always with north Indians. I want to see his debate with Tamil people who from Dravidian.
@KrishnaSaysDEMOLISHadharma
@KrishnaSaysDEMOLISHadharma Жыл бұрын
In my life too experienced discrimination in childhood in temple only but later realized SAMPROKSHANA to be done if some reasons Many taking political benefits saying discrimination, actually they are facing this discrimination There is a saying they don't allow others to enter their home, who gave right to enter others premises what works for to go, even though servants are paid
@souvikchakraborty8055
@souvikchakraborty8055 2 жыл бұрын
Brahmin word comes from 2 words- Bramha & man. Here bramha signifies the universe and man signifies the mind and soul of a human being. An individual who has been able or is on the path to connecting his soul and mind with the entire universe through dharma gyan, bhautik shiksha gyan and karma gyan. Only he/she shall be deemed to be a true brahmin. I am a brahmin by birth but not yet by the above 3 parameters although I m on my path. I would encourage every sanatani irrespective of ur surnames to become a brahmin. Bow only to ur Guru & be devoted only to maa saraswati. Jai sri ram.
@Inner.divinity
@Inner.divinity 2 жыл бұрын
Brahman means the supreme truth , anyone who lives a life completely dedicated to Brahman is brahmin..
@kumudkant2097
@kumudkant2097 5 ай бұрын
Does it belongs to IIT Madras social studies vertical
@trshams575
@trshams575 2 жыл бұрын
Differences are natural, real, essential. Architecture of society that makes harmonious, compatible is based on classification principle. Caste architecture and structure must be looked at from this perspective. There is no higher or lower caste as being made out by news papers and politicians. Shame on these motor mouth types. Faculty of speech and writing is very powerful and precious, to be used very very carefully not with careless arrogance and abandon. Mouthing with arrogance is deadly.
@alpeshmittal3779
@alpeshmittal3779 Жыл бұрын
Read yajurveda which mentions chandal and its definition. That's example of birth based varna system and fifth varna outcastes. So atleast since that time this discrimination exists.
@VIVEKANANDA65
@VIVEKANANDA65 Жыл бұрын
Purusha Sukta, consists of either Rig OR Yajurveda verses, structured to depict, Aadi daivika, aadhyatmika and Aadi bhoutika contextual meanings that is as per the context
@09937vickydicky5565
@09937vickydicky5565 2 жыл бұрын
Even now unknowingly.., mostly a doctors son becomes doctor, actors son become actor...
@MathewThomasFET
@MathewThomasFET Ай бұрын
Can a person born of shudra parents be a Purohit in a Hindu temple ❓️
@lishaanstinyworld4958
@lishaanstinyworld4958 Жыл бұрын
Untouchability and caste system In a different perspectives was present way before British arrived in india even when the kings were ruling
@trshams575
@trshams575 2 жыл бұрын
Protection and propagation of life happily and harmoniously is the practical purpose of marriage.
@librralbhakt
@librralbhakt Жыл бұрын
I just have one question, Why did 'Parshuram' reject Karna? Isn't this discrimination? Purely birth based, if it was just "Varna" he would have accepted him as he was raised by brahmin, but Karna was Kshatriya by birth so he was rejected, discrimination is there in the myth by your god, and you want us to believe its just stratification? Very poor argument.
@consciousworld9161
@consciousworld9161 11 ай бұрын
Karna lied to Parshuram
@pedadasiddardha9655
@pedadasiddardha9655 11 ай бұрын
Before that you should know that even karna received basic education from Dronacharya , Dronacharya only denied to provide him knowledge of Astras
@pedadasiddardha9655
@pedadasiddardha9655 11 ай бұрын
Go and read Mahabharat properly and Karna is not a Sudhra he is Sutha and he is called as Sutha Putra Sutha were known as kshatriya
@Sangita_hotty
@Sangita_hotty Жыл бұрын
Upar kasts are trying to cover up the atrocities commited by their ancestors on the poor Dalits
@padmach3575
@padmach3575 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to ask does a person want to study Veda who don't surrender to the directions give by Veda... what is the problem to learn Veda who are not Brahmin by birth... unfortunately non Bharatiya are learning then why can't all sanatanis get access to the Vedas... Lord Shiva himself told Vedas can be taught to anyone who want to study Vedas irrespective of Varna or Jati.. male or female... For a moment let me agree with you... Even in that case let the Brahmin control that but why other Varnas has to deprived from that knowledge..Let the non Brahmins study Veda... Can't this be possible..Whoever learn Vedas and realise Brahma are Brahmins...Then your argument fails....i need a clear answer from Mr. Sai Deepak..🙏
@jp-jb1bw
@jp-jb1bw 2 жыл бұрын
Today all the upanishads and vedas are available on the internet archive for free. Who has stopped anyone from pursuing the same? It requires dedication and practice. Pursuing money is easier. The non- allowing does not exist now. For the last 50 years at least.
@jp-jb1bw
@jp-jb1bw 2 жыл бұрын
As far as the past is concerned, every religion has skeletons in its cupboard. We must take what is good and move ahead. Which is what we have done.
@padmach3575
@padmach3575 2 жыл бұрын
@@jp-jb1bw Then what is the requirement of Guru Parampara..haa..? If everything is available in archives then why Vedapatasala is continuing..when everyone can get that from archives... Common i asked Sai Deepak to answer my question...not you..
@spg6651
@spg6651 2 жыл бұрын
@@padmach3575 I agree -- let us close IIT IIM and let all lean from Google
@amazingcalvin
@amazingcalvin 2 жыл бұрын
@@padmach3575 Unfortunately, if you want an answer from Sai Deepak, you might have to visit his lectures and ask him directly. But if you just want a sensible answer, I can give you that. Bear with me because this might be a bit long. If you want to have a rational discussion regarding this, I am open to that too. There are 4 varnas. Brahmanas were the priests whose job was to read, understand, practice and disseminate the information regarding Dharma. This was not just limited to Gurukuls but also to people who might get acquainted with the guru outside the gurukul. Hence, because they should not be misleading a huge number of people by misinterpreting the vedas, they were given extremely strict education on sanskrit, dharma, and how to interpret them. This is something people of other varnas namely kshatriyas (soldiers), vaishyas (merchants), and shudras (laborers) cannot afford to spend time on. Because their roles required the same amount of rigorous training but not in the vedas but in their professions. The duty of the brahmana is to guide the population with as much accuracy as possible regarding spiritual knowledge because others simply cannot have the time and energy to do so. Which is why they needed an entire varna dedicated to spreading this information. Varna mainly meant profession. Others can also independently do their own study of the vedas and achieve their own way of enlightenment. Take the famous rishi Vishwamitra. He was once a kshatriya king. Later on he became a brahmarishi. The famous Gayatri mantra was shared by rishi Vishwamitra to the world. So no one is stopping anyone from reading the vedas and benefiting from it's knowledge. But they need to meet qualifications in their expertise before they can be considered brahmanas. Just like a layman cannot become a successful astrophysicist just by reading books and tutorials. Most likely someone reading for themselves will face understanding issues and misinterpret the instructions. Hence, a guru is needed. A brahmana is that guru. Yes, there are people who can become a brahmana by studying the vedas by themselves. But they are a small minority. The majority of spiritual guidance needs to be done by an expert in that field. Who is the brahmana in this case. If you choose to study the vedas by yourself, you are free to do so. But when every individual can form different conclusions on the same vedas, what's to stop society from following down a false path? Hence why the role of a guru is important. Of course, even brahmanas are human beings and they can make mistakes. And the mistake one brahmana makes, is carried forward to the next generation and so on. So in the far future, dharma is bound to become adharma. This is why Krishna says that after each and every yuga, he will reincarnate in the world to punish those spreading evil and educate people on the true dharma, which is again from the same vedas. The vedas never changed. But humans do. Hence why they need periodic correction.
@ankitlamba4253
@ankitlamba4253 Жыл бұрын
It is a very dangerous trend to inculcate a particular ideology into educational institutions. India is still fighting pseudoscience in day to day life where Indian PM and ministers proudly citing pseudoscience evidences. As matter to particular matter of caste or varn or whatever distorted version he wants to present, he basic aim is why not hindu unity, why annihilation of caste. Let me answer that, will temples accross india ready to have reservation policy in priesthood? Does land reforms had been successful in India? Will you agree to tax inherited wealth ? And most importantly he has done generalization of Indian History and mythology on basis of few examples. If you have example that could be counted on fingertips is really not empowerment rather it shows that you have to dig up example and some times fabricate it. Then he generalised shudras with untouchables or avarnas. Can he cite any 5 not matter how big or small Indian avarna or untouchable dynasty ruled any part of subcontinent after muryan dynasty. Second he stated that even Brahmans or kshtriya couldn't get into profession of untouchables, well social mobility doesn't that way my friend. Then he said there was stratification but not discrimination. When we attached rewards with stratification it transforms in inequality. Brahmins had status, kshtriyas power and Vaishya class Shudra had none and untouchable is even deprived of human dignity. As wise S deepak tried to portray himself one atleast expect simple sociological knowledge from him.
@ankur2766
@ankur2766 Жыл бұрын
His basic point was...the system which hindu scriptures,the Varna system wasn't meant to divided by birth but instead of karma (mentioned in bhagwad Geeta and manusmriti) but its corrupted into today's caste system
@sudheerthaakur191
@sudheerthaakur191 Жыл бұрын
If caste is a Portuguese construct what is Indic equivalent of caste?
@TPMmusicLive
@TPMmusicLive Жыл бұрын
Today I found little bit of intention ( not completely logical) in his speech as if he doesn't want society to think in certain way, that's why he care fully gave direction to his speech
@BooktalkTamil
@BooktalkTamil 2 жыл бұрын
(Suggest me)Thought to buy his books but I'm worried that his works are kind a propaganda of Hinduism. Because I myself Hindu but i never encourage the thought that India is meant to be Hindus only
@linneshwharparameswaran6147
@linneshwharparameswaran6147 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you should. Btw, only Hindus think this way. Abrahamics do not believe in plurality, trying to convert the heathen savages who will burn in hell for all eternity lmao. Plus, even Buddhists in Sri Lanka, Myanmar and Bhutan have genocided Hindus so yeah as an Atheist, I have to say that Hindus are far more tolerant than any other religion. By a mile
@tvwalamaulana1231
@tvwalamaulana1231 2 жыл бұрын
Varna was pride and is still pride. Even in Pakistan, converted muslim still follow and keep their hindu surname. Take example of Pakistan Army chief is Bajwa.
@kanikakanika8377
@kanikakanika8377 Жыл бұрын
People there still flaunt themselves as rajputs and jatts knowing well that these things are not in Islam still they doo
@harshacg4723
@harshacg4723 2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense y stratification is needed,y merit cannot operate independently..also untouchability started during the Golden age of Guptas
@mayankindian3750
@mayankindian3750 10 ай бұрын
That's wrong 🙂
@kaiser1295
@kaiser1295 7 ай бұрын
Why should a person follow the profession of his father? He can choose any profession as per his wish.
@trshams575
@trshams575 2 жыл бұрын
Marriage is for life and DIVORCE is not an option. How classification into compatible - spontaneously compatible - groups and marriage fot life are intimately associated is to be understood especially from woman's perspective. Very crucial for happiness and harmony. V
@muraligonamurali1864
@muraligonamurali1864 Жыл бұрын
Sai deepak sir 👌🙏🕉️
@jayaat8502
@jayaat8502 2 жыл бұрын
Time has come to put an end for this. Now the government should stop caste based reservation and reservation should be given to economically backward. Mainly politicians and others who are wealthy are taking advantage of this caste system but poor people r not benefited by this reservation
@SATYASRINIVASRAVADAIITKGP
@SATYASRINIVASRAVADAIITKGP Жыл бұрын
Then they have to stop caste system reservation on land etc
@RitujaYadaw-tk7kf
@RitujaYadaw-tk7kf Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Bhai 🎉🎉
@shubhamk840
@shubhamk840 8 ай бұрын
Please someome answer me . Why would I even need Hinduism in my life ?
@piyushpandey2480
@piyushpandey2480 2 жыл бұрын
I am not just PROUD to be a BRAHMIN but I practice BRAHMINISM daily JAI BABA PARSHURAM🙏
@billybutcher6504
@billybutcher6504 2 жыл бұрын
Im proud to be Buddhist where we ain't got caste and superstition.
@pallabsamanta3884
@pallabsamanta3884 Жыл бұрын
@@billybutcher6504 lord Buddha believed in rebearth concept. Is it not superstition? Hinjan and Mahajan used to fight each other after the death of Lord Buddha in shake of Buddha's real discipleship. Reference _ On the contrary, Chanel on Buddhism.
@billybutcher6504
@billybutcher6504 Жыл бұрын
@@pallabsamanta3884 first of all it is rebirth and not rebearth 🤣 And Buddha didn't believed in rebirth. He believed that after death our matters gets involve in another body or our body's mass energy get involved with mass energy of world and, and by that energy, a new creature gets born.
@piyushpandey2480
@piyushpandey2480 Жыл бұрын
@@billybutcher6504 It doesn't matter me at all.of what religion U are proud of but I will.tell u one thing if Budhism was so strong then why it came to extinction point where only few countries practice Budhism that too with very little Population I know U dont know the ans wer Hinduism main POWER comes from its LITERATURE which Bhudhism lacks😀
@raay411
@raay411 Жыл бұрын
And what is Your Bramhinism? Practising uch neech, thinking youself to be superior than others.
@shallysharan
@shallysharan 2 жыл бұрын
Sir there is so much of bodily discipline required beyond all this for learning and practising vedas ..and same is designed for over well being is also to be driven into public minds..basically a service
@sahilmishra6529
@sahilmishra6529 2 жыл бұрын
Gova me 400..pandito ke hath .Kyo .Kate .gaya .unki .patni ko .कुए .me kud .jaan .deni .padi pandit .jis .Shadi .me jata . Vaha Mali ka .ful..kumhar..ki mati .badhai..ka mandap..Nau..jese .7..ya .11..Vo bhi .hote he jinko Dalit .bola jata hai
@anuragshukla7309
@anuragshukla7309 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully lucid understanding and expression of the nuances of varna, caste and jaati conundrum. So well thought through!
@ravisabale2574
@ravisabale2574 Жыл бұрын
Most of people do not choose study of Vedas because still it is not freed from Brahmin community..answer is simple..and if you want check it then many Vedic pathashalas do not allowed non Brahmin students.. Just speaking in air without knowing reality is not good..
@kaydee3407
@kaydee3407 Жыл бұрын
1:43 ..he is clearly lying ..there was intense discrimination in travancore before the portugease arrived... The dalits are clearly and in their folk songs relate to the abuse they had to face There are letters from the king of travancore Compalinng to the portugease that the converts from the lower class are now a rebel nature and not controllable as before the conversion ...
@akshyayakumarpradhan50
@akshyayakumarpradhan50 6 ай бұрын
Substandard
@mukulpal8875
@mukulpal8875 Жыл бұрын
Hinduism ,Buddhism , Jainism has caste system.... and Sikhism don does not have caste system but in practically they also practice caste system. and do not allow inter caste marriages....but expansional Iskon and Arya samaj do not have caste system....and they allow inter caste marriages... and they do not consider non-Hindus as maleksha..... Bhagwat Gita chapter 1,verse41... अधर्माभिभवात्कृष्ण प्रदुष्यन्ति कुलस्त्रिय: | स्त्रीषु दुष्टासु वार्ष्णेय जायते वर्णसङ्कर: || 41|| Translation BG 1.41: With the preponderance of vice, O Krishna, the women of the family become immoral; and from the immorality of women, O descendent of Vrishni, unwanted progeny/mixed bred are born. Bhagavad Gita: Chapter 9, Verse 32 मां हि पार्थ व्यपाश्रित्य येऽपि स्यु: पापयोनय: | स्त्रियो वैश्यास्तथा शूद्रास्तेऽपि यान्ति परां गतिम् || 32|| 9.32 For, taking refuge in Me, they also who, O Arjuna, may be of a sinful birth women, Vaisyas as well as Sudras attain the Supreme Goal.
@nityanandamohapatra1957
@nityanandamohapatra1957 2 жыл бұрын
Please read the chapter "The soul force and fourfold personality"in The Synthesis of Yoga" authored by Sri Aurobindo .Our eyes will open up to Varna system. I quote one sentence."Ancients held the a sudra can become a brahmin by dint of his spiritual regeneration and culture"A sanskrit hymn goes in the Gita"Chatur varna maya srustha guna karma bibhagascha." Translated by Sri Aurobindo ,--Four varnas are created by me according to active guna and active karma."The which ever quality is in me I belong to that varna. The four aspects are innate in every soul.
@trshams575
@trshams575 2 жыл бұрын
Eyes, ears, tasting, smelling and feeling - - all of these work and provide continuous discrimination for selection and survival. Hence there are countless ways to sense and essential discrimination. Think about it!
@kusapago
@kusapago 21 күн бұрын
He have many father 👨
@pragasanarchary2980
@pragasanarchary2980 2 жыл бұрын
So what exactly is the need for jati/varna and what purpose does it serve except for dividing people. Must remember you find good ,decent people across all so called jati/ varna of society. Anycase all people are born of karma and really have no right to a divisive agenda.
@trshams575
@trshams575 2 жыл бұрын
Classification is not discrimination.
@anupnishanrao7767
@anupnishanrao7767 Жыл бұрын
When british left india the only thing that had happened is that india lost an excuse to blame it on brits for all the wrong doing and wrong hapoening
@KartikeyKushwaha-n3t
@KartikeyKushwaha-n3t Жыл бұрын
Well leadership groom the opinion of masses thats how things work and in case of brits things also worked like that. Blaming brits is not wrong entirely then.
@eshwarswaminathan3031
@eshwarswaminathan3031 10 ай бұрын
Vanniyar Thevar Pillar Mudhaliyar Chettiyar Nadar Gounder Chettiyar
@surabhisagar2159
@surabhisagar2159 2 жыл бұрын
Who was kanakadasa?
@dcmhsotaeh
@dcmhsotaeh 2 жыл бұрын
He was a saint in Karnataka 16 th century He was a Vaishnavite and a saint He was a great lord krishna devotee He has composed hundreds of devotional songs Kannada He was from the Kuruba caste loosely translated as shepherd caste However the Kuruba caste was also a warrior ruler caste for many centuries kanaka dasa was a warrior ruler and changed over to a saintly life after injuries in battle The great karnata or Vijaynagar empire - some of the greatest emperors were Kuruba Today Kuruba community is a prominent community in Karnataka politically economically and socially
@surabhisagar2159
@surabhisagar2159 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcmhsotaeh i know, but because kanakadasa was not allowed into the temple that is why When he sang devotional songs there was a crack on the wall? Right? That shows That we should change.
@amazingcalvin
@amazingcalvin 2 жыл бұрын
@@surabhisagar2159 Discrimination exists in any part of society even in the most advanced civilizations. What he is saying that it was not widespread and severe as the Anti-Hindu elements would like to claim. And certainly the Vedas, which were supposed to be the religious guide for anyone trying to attain salvation, have never advocated for discrimination among the ppl on the basis of their professions. In fact, why did Krishna turn away to face Kanakadasa who had pure motives despite being treated badly by the others? To show that caste is not an excuse to discriminate a devotee of God. Similarly, why was Ram born on Navami and Krishna on Ashtami? To disprove the myth of Ashtami and Navami flatly being inauspicious days without further context. All these bad things happen by corruption of human understanding of the Vedas. This is bound to happen since everyone has their biases and way of interpreting the same words. The Vedas never changed. But humans do. So they continuously need to be guided away from erroneous paths from time to time. This is why Krishna famously said "Parithraanaya Sadhunaam Vinashaaya Chadhuskrutaam, Dharmasamsthaapanarthaya Sambhavaami Yuge Yuge".
@BooktalkTamil
@BooktalkTamil 2 жыл бұрын
As best of my knowledge Brahmins are not originated in our land they must be came (invade) from somewhere?? So first ever colonialism results what we have Brahmins now in our country right??
@denken7764
@denken7764 2 жыл бұрын
Aryan invasion is myth
@sree159753
@sree159753 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@prashobh216
@prashobh216 2 жыл бұрын
About land owning, I agree. I came from the Thiyya caste of Kerala but grew up in Malaysia. Thiyyas are supposed to be OBC or outcast. But when I first went to India at age 32 to get married. My mom brought me to her home and pointed to the surrounding mountains and said all the land below all those mountains belonged to her father. Later I found my dad's side were also very big land owners. Logically thinking will take you to the same conclusion, the Shudras made things for Romans all the way to SouthEast Asia so they should be the richest community. In N. Kerala there was an attempt by the British to confiscate wealth from the producers class (Shudras) and give it to the Ksythriyas and Brahmins which caused the Mopillah riots; though most people just assume the only reason for that was Muslim extremism. That latter justification may have added vigor to the clashes, that is all.
@kumudkant2097
@kumudkant2097 5 ай бұрын
command line
@shshashank
@shshashank Жыл бұрын
Half knowledge Sai deepak. He is saying shudras are not untouchables. Why people are taking him seriously?
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654
@kousiksinghamahapatrs1654 Жыл бұрын
Ambedkar has said shudras were not untouchables,they were important member of Aryan community,now say Ambedkar was fool
@arnipskumar3245
@arnipskumar3245 Жыл бұрын
This caste system a European construct to homogenise all Indians and then convert....our old Varna/Jathi system served the panchayat community and joint family well. If it remains fluid and people moving from one to another without rigidity...Bharath can get back to her glorious past....must decolonise..
@iuvvuiieii
@iuvvuiieii 8 ай бұрын
So Shreste is really not Shreste .
@iuvvuiieii
@iuvvuiieii 8 ай бұрын
The Caste system is meaning less because all castes enjoy the same genetic profiling in the indo gangetic plain
@madhupolaki3087
@madhupolaki3087 2 жыл бұрын
Man you are something.
@eshwarswaminathan3031
@eshwarswaminathan3031 10 ай бұрын
In all caste , jati 4 varnas are there
@emsworthcastle4849
@emsworthcastle4849 2 жыл бұрын
Any good and reliable books that could help one get a clear view of the caste system as suggested by Sai Deepak?
@GRaju-dr8gq
@GRaju-dr8gq Жыл бұрын
Evadu creat chesindu varana in 18 hindu law books deepak
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