It's been almost a year since the Condit Dam was removed, and people with lakefront homes are stuck in a dust bowl.
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@lunkerjunkie3 жыл бұрын
Salmon: can't make it home to spawn for decades Humans: it's been so dusty this week
@andybaldman2 жыл бұрын
Salmon have been spawning elsewhere for 100 years. Humans can’t just move a house.
@twostop68952 жыл бұрын
@@andybaldman shut up
@StellarLunar2 жыл бұрын
@@andybaldman oh yes they can.
@chrisstaylor83773 жыл бұрын
The dams only been there a short time the rivers been there for thousands of years the dams gone , this is how it should be a free flowing river ,
@alexmikels82192 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't live in a home it destroys ecosystems. How about go live in the woods and foraging.
@JohnSmith-dd8bf2 жыл бұрын
No you should live in a pod and eat bugs and own nothing
@sallymander5710 жыл бұрын
The land is leased to the homeowners. They're lucky the dam company didn't just cancel their leases and tell them to move. A dam on the Clark Fork river in Montana was removed and revegetated. Four years later and you'd never know the dam and it's miles of silt were ever there.
@mikeluther48895 жыл бұрын
Who builds a house on leased land. No way in hell I would ever do some dumb shit like that. They never thought that the dam company would never come in and make changes or make them move
@phokjiouh595 жыл бұрын
@@mikeluther4889 Hereditary leasehold? Though I don't know if that exists in the USA.
@patrickzink21915 жыл бұрын
Except for no more lake and the lack of water control for wells and other things not to mention way higher possibility for floods as there is no flood control area (ie the lake and dam ) who is the smart one now
@beebop98083 жыл бұрын
@@patrickzink2191 Everybody seems to think that all damns are there for flood control when the truth of the matter is that very few dams are built for flood control and they are the large dams, usually hydroelectric dams. Not mud puddles like this one that held more silt than water. Not to mention most aren't designed for flood waters and pose a higher risk for catastrophic failure and flooding if they can't relieve the inrush of water before it crests the damn. And There has never been a dam constructed for the intention of managing ground water for wells for housing that may or may not ever exist around the reservoir. Open the well and drill a little deeper. The water is still there.
@acoustickittykat27 күн бұрын
@@patrickzink2191Wah wah wah! White people angst is precious.
@hypocycloidiaspora3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't Lakefront Property, it was Reservoir-Front Property. There's a big difference.
@ericl29693 жыл бұрын
In that shot of the reservoir just upstream of the dam after drainage, you could see the erosion valley cut into the sediment showing the thickness of the sediment as well as the top elevation of the un-eroded areas. It was clear that the sediment had been nearly as high as the normal pool level. In other words, that lake was nearly filled to the brim with silt before they took out the dam, so it's not like the lake had any real quality to it anymore as it was. Reservoirs in hilly country are prone to filling up with silt at a rapid rate, often in as little as ten years, and clearly this was an example of a man-made lake that had a useful lifespan that was very short. And that's all aside from what so many others are pointing out, that expecting permanence when leasing from a business operation is a gamble. Anyway, bare silt within drained reservoirs grows into what's virtually a jungle in an incredibly short time. I've seen it happen several places. You can bet that the sediment plain of the former reservoir is now lush and green, and to me, that's not a bad trade for a mud-filled lake that never should have been.
@bertlbarm43742 жыл бұрын
and where does the drinking water come from now? Are you now selling it to the former seaside residents for a lot of money?
@Woodbug-b7t2 жыл бұрын
Dams positives...like mans hubris...has been unmasked.
@StellarLunar2 жыл бұрын
@@bertlbarm4374 so you read all that and then thought this was a still a good question to ask? The "lake" was full of silt. It's lifespan was over. Look at some aerial footage of Matilija dam from the past year. It's so full of silt that grass is growing at the top of it. It's a disaster.
@bertlbarm43742 жыл бұрын
@@StellarLunar well i assume there is a company responsible for each of these dammed waters or the "state" in any case someone who has to make sure everything works, or did I misunderstand something, is it just a matter of that you build something and use it until it breaks? here in europe, the sludge is drained every few years because, among other things, it is also a good fertilizer
@covenant11 Жыл бұрын
@@bertlbarm4374 oh boy...you are still a decade behind reality at least...
@Mrbfgray9 жыл бұрын
The vegetation will return even without intervention the dust is temporary.
@KieraCameron5149 жыл бұрын
Bo McGillacutty Is the loss of well water temporary?
@Mrbfgray9 жыл бұрын
***** If your well was only 10 ft deep it might not be.
@HaroldWilsonsGhost8 жыл бұрын
+Jemalacane0 Its a river, so no
@rubenscott39727 жыл бұрын
Bo McGillacutty nope busy it will take longer that dirt is not what u think
@buddykane227 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly BoMcGillacutty
@RoscoRide10 жыл бұрын
Close your damn window dust problem solved!! Wait for plants to seed problem solved. If this guy is shedding a tear at these minimal problems he must have been use to getting his way all his life..
@KieraCameron5149 жыл бұрын
Peter R Is the loss of their well water supply also minor?
@claudiasmemaw8 жыл бұрын
+Peter R -- You are a BUFFOON, used to getting YOUR OWN WAY! How R plants going 2 'seed themselves' W/O WATER! You can't IMAGINE no morning coffee; not brushing your teeth, not throwing a load in the washer when you run out of clean clothes;, turning a tap 4 a glass of H2O when you're thirsty & having NOTHING come out; having teeth feel 'gritty' & saliva turn 2 MUD in your mouth! And don't 4get what the dust will do 2 your car engine, your home's A/C!. Better get supplies of air filters 4 it b/c you'll need a new 1 weekly if not daily, but it can 'wait' & the problem will B solved. And of course there's the pesky issue of not FLUSHING the toilet-but WAIT-plants will re-seed & solve the problem-ah, NO plants won't FILL the WELL! NO-closing 'a window' will NOT 'SOLVE the problem'! The home CAN'T be hermetically sealed! Tell his LUNGS breathing dust is a 'minimal problem' & they can 'wait' 4 the problem to B solved! Having NO water is NOT a 'minimal problem'! Just ask the people in Flint, Michigan! 'Life' REQUIRES 3 things-water, air & food. Remove just ONE & life CAN'T sustain itself!
@claudiasmemaw8 жыл бұрын
+Peter R -- You are a BUFFOON, used to getting YOUR OWN WAY! How R plants going 2 'seed themselves' W/O WATER! You can't IMAGINE no morning coffee; not brushing your teeth, not throwing a load in the washer when you run out of clean clothes;, turning a tap 4 a glass of H2O when you're thirsty & having NOTHING come out; having teeth feel 'gritty' & saliva turn 2 MUD in your mouth! And don't 4get what the dust will do 2 your car engine, your home's A/C!. Better get supplies of air filters 4 it b/c you'll need a new 1 weekly if not daily, but it can 'wait' & the problem will B solved. And of course there's the pesky issue of not FLUSHING the toilet-but WAIT-plants will re-seed & solve the problem-ah, NO plants won't FILL the WELL! NO-closing 'a window' will NOT 'SOLVE the problem'! The home CAN'T be hermetically sealed! Tell his LUNGS breathing dust is a 'minimal problem' & they can 'wait' 4 the problem to B solved! Having NO water is NOT a 'minimal problem'! Just ask the people in Flint, Michigan! 'Life' REQUIRES 3 things-water, air & food. Remove just ONE & life CAN'T sustain itself!
@claudiasmemaw8 жыл бұрын
+claudiasmemaw SORRY about double post.
@claudiasmemaw8 жыл бұрын
+claudiasmemaw SORRY about double post.
@BobSmith-st1wq8 жыл бұрын
That's what can happen when you lease someone's land. Just have that land seeded and the dust will stop.
@bblando654 жыл бұрын
then the rich folks wouldn't have anything to bitch about...i feel sooooo sorry for the rich privileged folks...frickin whiners....
@ssvocals3 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bob!
@ssvocals3 жыл бұрын
Actually no. That's what can happen when big money controls everything. They've done it to people that aren't leasing land too case you were unaware or have some odd little fantasy that the government may be on your side
@bradley-eblesisor6 жыл бұрын
Who builds dream house on lease land? How does that work. I am ignorant.
@patrickzink21915 жыл бұрын
His last name is lease not on leased land moron
@wufongtanwufong55794 жыл бұрын
@Patrick zink The company owns the land. They lease it to the home owners. @2:31 Ya moron
@wufongtanwufong55794 жыл бұрын
@bradley eblesisor They sign long term leases. Most are valid for 100+ years.
@fredthegamerschrarder77164 жыл бұрын
patrick Zink who’s the moron now quiet boy 😂
@hia52352 жыл бұрын
Yeah you are.
@teddybearisms25057 жыл бұрын
Get over it, find some natural species in the area, and get planting.
@luisllorens703 жыл бұрын
Spray some water every day for the dust. The grass will grow. And stop crying because you're still living better than most.
@Odrunkmonkey9 жыл бұрын
Am I suppose to feel bad because some guys lake front house is unpleasant to live in? I feel bad for kids with cancer, not this guy.
@got2kittys6 жыл бұрын
Buy some bags of grass seed. Then you can yell " Get off my lawn!" at people.
@BallardBaller3 жыл бұрын
Now they have 5 more acres a piece, and we have salmon and a runnable white water river
@sentinelfishing20507 жыл бұрын
if that were my house I'd be more worried about my property values and fishing opportunities, not the bloody dust
@Joshua79C6 жыл бұрын
"leased" seems to have escaped your hearing range, the others are wise to have just left their land leases and homes, but me I would rather keep the house I bought
@delavan91418 ай бұрын
Obviously you've never had to breath dust 24-7.
@dorianmus67712 жыл бұрын
Plant something instead of complaining about loose soil and the resulting problems.
@KlunkerRider10 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised they didn't hydroseed the exposed ground. That would have given something to take root in the exposed dirt areas.
@danielrose13926 жыл бұрын
I think there is a story behind they did not fully tell. When you immediately hydroseed the sediment, it is still at dangerous slopes and will come down one day. Best thing you can do for long term safety is not to do anything in the beginning and then later hydroseed the much shallower and eroded slopes.
@xzy89c6 жыл бұрын
They did. Great job of restoring the environment.
@Folsomdsf25 жыл бұрын
they did after the ground settled.
@richardparker40152 жыл бұрын
@@danielrose1392 also when you plant a tree it can't connect to the fungal internet which leads to disease cause it's doesn't know how to fight it and it spreads that's why it's a hell of a lot better to leave vacant land to natural succession unless the soil is really poor then it has to go through regenerative agriculture
@delavan91418 ай бұрын
It was just before the winter rain storms, would have washed it all away.
@kelsogray7 жыл бұрын
Once all of that land is reclaimed that is going to be a nice riverfront home. Hell give it to me.
@wufongtanwufong55794 жыл бұрын
True. They going to be perched on some nice river front property. I wish i had the same "problems" this guy is facing
@7orrest7erguson3 жыл бұрын
I know EXACTLY where this guy lives, I have been going next to this spot fishing since I Was a kid. It was already nice without having to wait. They SCREWED all those people. Not an easy or cheap fix for the well issues either.
@popomomo123 жыл бұрын
@Michael Angelo finally some brains made it here
@40intrek3 жыл бұрын
Foolish greed!!! River water is so much cleaner..
@tsherwood21123 ай бұрын
@@7orrest7erguson "nice" doesn't mean decimated fish populations and extreme siltification. Obsolete dams need removal
@chetlockwood14913 жыл бұрын
You can't have it both ways, either a free flowing river or a dammed up cesspool of silt. Given time and patience, the vegetation and salmon will be back.
@englishruraldoggynerd4 жыл бұрын
The weaponised desecrated cross says something. I’m just not sure if I want to write what. It’s now fully vegetated (2020) green and lush, and the dust was always anticipated, and planned for. And windows close, too!
@geosutube6 жыл бұрын
Plant some vegetation. WTF!
@xzy89c6 жыл бұрын
geosutube they did. Great documentary on youtube about it including restoration of canyon.
@Jumaforever5 жыл бұрын
@@xzy89c where?
@jumpfok4 жыл бұрын
@@Jumaforever maybe you've already seen it, but here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fna2kGCagLp4b6s At the end of the video, there is a short segment on the vegetation
@drinny264 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the residents shouldn’t have to pay for it.
@dogbarbill6 жыл бұрын
It's now been five years since this video was published. I wonder what an update would reveal.
@andrewlaverghetta715 Жыл бұрын
If you haven’t seen it yet, search the dam’s name here on KZbin and you’ll find a good 10 year update.
@stacymirba14334 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the guy but that river was there before humans fucked everything up by building a dam to begin with.
@LiamMonteyrie012 жыл бұрын
Imagine complaining about losing an old decrepit dam that had cut off a major spawning ground for an endangered species of salmon. I understand that you thought the lake was pretty but your views are less important than keeping nature healthy and protecting endangered animals.
@cryoine71942 жыл бұрын
they complaining about the dust...not the old decrepit dam, the DUST
@1towmater13 жыл бұрын
You built a house on leased land in a man made lake...... Wtf did think would happen?! I would much rather have river front property anyway
@bf61594 жыл бұрын
It sucks for those who invested in property based on various assumptions, however, there was a lot more to the matter than the dam being too expensive to fix, everything from environmental and wildlife considerations to technology being outdated and inability to expand as to meet current energy demands. Lesson #1 Never build on leased property... if you don't own it, you have no rights. Lesson #2 Know who owns that which you consider to be scenery: farmer, State, corporation... they all have plans and financial considerations, of which you are none. Lesson #3 Everything is temporary, meaning everything has a life-span, even us. People fail to realize that "always been there" is a remedial concept that barely spans 80 years; great-grandparents build something, grandparents grew up with it, parents only know of it as having always been, and we get to either carry on obliviously, or deconstruct and re-purpose.
@michaelbagley91163 жыл бұрын
They will certainly try to reseed the ground with native plants. But unfortunately, when you choose to have property near a damn/waterfront access, you take your chances.
@johnfitzpatrick309410 жыл бұрын
Aren't these people smart enough to plant some grass and trees?
@sirissac2346 жыл бұрын
The people don't control that, PacifiCorp does. The people leased land down to the water. What was dust is beyond that boundry. In any case, PacifiCorp HAS planted since then, in some areas, numerous repeated times.
@joaquingonzalo19455 жыл бұрын
Fitzpatrick.. I think theres a problem with that silt that still remians You cant grow anything meanful in it.. It needs to be washed and blown away first you need real soil
@maxfastest3 жыл бұрын
Too lazy to do any work
@yeetandskeet6 жыл бұрын
Why are you all being so harsh? He built a lakefront house with his own hands and now its basicly ruined, id be pretty dam depressed if it was me and so would you
@69dashon5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with u id be hurt also to see it gone they should try and find away to fix the issue with another dam and help watever wildlife the dam could have had a negative effect on only say that because ik they sometimes do. Im sure the people would be more then happy to pay fees for it if its too much for the company to maintain or just sell the damn land to them
@arthurbrumagem38442 жыл бұрын
Because people can be hateful.
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
Most people don't give a shit about other people.
@dogbarbill4 жыл бұрын
It's now almost eight years later, how have things changed? Better? Worse? In what way? Just curious.
@VS-et4pn3 жыл бұрын
Much better now. They had botanists come in and replant the area. It's gorgeous
@Connect6623 жыл бұрын
Terrible journalism. Why people hate the media. They never said anything about what the river had done for the ecosystem
@arisaka99633 жыл бұрын
@@Connect662 people hate the media because they provide (mostly liberal) slanted opinions, and call them facts.
@robertcarnochan88882 жыл бұрын
@@arisaka9963 Watched any Fox over the last few years?
@linedanzer43023 жыл бұрын
When you build on leased land - even if it is your dream house - you are at the mercy of the landowner and all of their decisions.
@MrJeep7510 ай бұрын
Just like 2 trailer parks one in beaverton one in hillsboro residents were forced to leave when the land owner sold the property to developers
@Maloy78006 жыл бұрын
That cross looks like a lot of work. If the guy put that much effort into planting trees and grass around his house, he'd be much better off.
@lag97653 жыл бұрын
The land will recover. Wounds take time to heal and the Condit Dam seriously injured the land. The river will be health once again and in time we shall see...
@andrewvillanueva42224 жыл бұрын
That was the best to remove the dam. You will have a fish in your river. Salmon returning to the river is will be a great news.
@Bluetoothedshark5 жыл бұрын
Please god, I know you like your natural design, but could you please put back the dam and ruin the natural environment for the sake of my dream shack, please! I'll even put up a cross...
@boblove68653 жыл бұрын
Plant some wildflowers and trees. Moben with your lives just like the Salmon.
@robertcalamusso42182 жыл бұрын
We gained an ecosystem for the price of a dull small lake.
@63256325N10 жыл бұрын
It was a wild river long before a damn was built in the early 1900's and the Eco-system I'm sure was balanced just fine before it went in. What were the consequences of the damn being built in the first place, probably not good, but it balanced out just as it will again. To the lessee, grow some grass and move on...
@--Valek--10 жыл бұрын
wow what an ass
@63256325N10 жыл бұрын
josef williams Takes one to know one...
@--Valek--10 жыл бұрын
this is true
@deschutesmaple452010 жыл бұрын
josef williams He's actually spot on. This video is tabloid journalism, petty concerns about dust blown out of proportion vs. the rebirth of a great salmon fishery. The dust is temporary, that rich silt soil will rapidly be overgrown with new vegetation.
@--Valek--10 жыл бұрын
don't even remember why I made these comments
@joaquingonzalo19457 жыл бұрын
This is supposed to be river *not* a lake... let it be a river god dammit
@richardcox84094 жыл бұрын
this showed up in my recommendations as I watched a few documentaries on the amazing effort that was put into removal of the dam and the life that was restored to the river and the whole ecosystem as a whole in the entire river basin. They removed 2 dams? I do believe and this dam was one of them?.. It was awesome to watch. If the humans are looking for sympathy its between shit and syphilis in the dictionary.
@PhilJonesIII4 жыл бұрын
While I agree that the defunct dam needed to removed, the method of removal was itself an act of environmental vandalism. The method was chosen for its cheapness.
@STScott-qo4pw2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣
@StellarLunar2 жыл бұрын
well said.
@stevenfair81225 жыл бұрын
another tree hugger caused problem
@Piterdeveirs3334 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the dam was removed because it cost too much to keep repairing it. Seems to be a problem caused by capitalism
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
@@Piterdeveirs333 You don't know what you're talking about. The dam worked fine for its intended purpose. The "repair" they mention is a modification to allow salmon to go around the dam. Basically, what Steven said.
@larrabeejl5 жыл бұрын
Why would you lease the land your going to build a house on. That's pretty dumb of the homeowners.
@AINGELPROJECT667 Жыл бұрын
Lot of people in the comments belittling this poor old man whose worst crime was that he invested in a lease. Unless he was an expert in how reservoirs and erosion worked, he never could have predicted the silt buildup or that the dam would one day be removed. It's no fault of his and deriding him for mourning the loss of something both he and his wife cherished is beneath everyone. The dam itself was fraught with issues and I can understand why they removed it. As pointed out elsewhere, it was notorious for silt buildup and it was affecting salmon migrations--despite the efforts to provide a 'fish ladder' for salmon to bypass the dam, the fish ladder kept getting damaged and made impassible by floods, and eventually the company which maintained the dam was told to either bring the whole facility up to spec or decommission it; in this case, the company saw fit to choose the latter. The removal of the dam is expected to be a negative impact on the surrounding enviornment for a few years, as the remaining silt flushes from the former lakebed and new vegetation starts to take hold. Eventually, however, the landscape will return, and animals and plants previously hampered by the dam will flourish. Hopefully, he will live to see this return and have many more memories to cherish with his loved ones in the time he has left.
@dudelivestrong7 жыл бұрын
I guess these people don't realize nature takes time. But that would piss me off. Buying a property on a lake then nope no more water.
@bigwheel65336 жыл бұрын
dudelivestrong they are not owners! Get that straight
@MsCriticalthinker2014 жыл бұрын
And if there's a dam holding back the lake at your summer house, find out if it's on the demo list. Maybe get out early...
@primotef88635 жыл бұрын
Ugh dude, when they told you the lake was gonna be gone, you knew what would happen and you put up a _fucking cross?_ Get over it, jeez
@donl32483 жыл бұрын
Why don’t I feel sorry for them? Same reason I don’t feel sorry for folks who build homes in a flood plain. Water goes where it’s supposed to go. Man tries to mess with it, people are going to suffer consequences.
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
Building in a flood plain is certain to fail. A dam removal is a rare and unexpected event.
@aznboycols4 жыл бұрын
Look, your acreage has increased. Plant grass and buy a riding mower.
@ssvocals3 жыл бұрын
That's so awesome that you know everything. Because grass doesn't actually grow in silt. It grows in soil..
@StellarLunar2 жыл бұрын
@@ssvocals and now the grass has grown there and it looks beautiful.
@mewanttools7275 Жыл бұрын
The dam needed to go. It had a lifespan which actually should have never been imposed upon the environment. As for the wells: they will just have to bore deeper since the reservoir is not artificially impounding water in the ground. The silt banks have likely filled in with native species of plants. That little show of dust was a pitiful attempt to aggrandize the story. Just a momentary environmental anomaly that is always mitigated well with a little effort.
@dudelivestrong7 жыл бұрын
This was 5 years ago who knows what's going on
@biohazard_6133 жыл бұрын
I was up there last year. They brought in botanists and replanted the area. It’s beautiful and you can hardly tell the dam or lake were there.
@ihavefallenandicantreachmy21133 жыл бұрын
@@biohazard_613 Has Sir Dustzalot shriveled, up and died, yet?
@timleary95374 жыл бұрын
I went to the dam to get some dam water The dam man said I couldn't have no dam water So I told the dam man To keep his dam water
@mikebegay38243 жыл бұрын
Lovely dam poem .
@count_of13104 жыл бұрын
I can't feel bad for him, with a house like that. Appreciate the roof over your head.
@--dh--5 жыл бұрын
A torture device calms him down and gives him peace?
@shannonlucas29803 жыл бұрын
They altered the land that was never his to begin with?
@ernestbywater4112 жыл бұрын
I bet the people living around the old lake never offered to give the dam owner extra money to maintain and improve the dam to keep the lake.
@STScott-qo4pw2 жыл бұрын
mmm... yes, come to think of it, i kinda doubt that, too. unsurprising.
@charliewebster402810 жыл бұрын
Hooray for the river!!!!!
@patrickzink21915 жыл бұрын
What river
@Piterdeveirs3334 жыл бұрын
@@patrickzink2191 The river that was dammed and now isn't dammed?
@discodavid262 жыл бұрын
I know the dam had to come down both for the fish, overfill off sediment and for economic reasons …… however why not after you have completely got rid off the old dam could they have not built a very cheap/ basic flow through dam which has an open bottom … allowing the river to flow under untouched by the dam for at least half the year but will occasionally hold a bit back during the rest off the year … meaning less dust … less water to be held back so less weight…less cost fish can swim either way with no obstacles etc etc no?
@user-mj4zm8hc8i2 жыл бұрын
Есть такое понятие -воровство денег из бюджета страны ))) Чем больше затрат, тем больше возможностей для этого ! Можно было просто оставить дамбу Но на этом не заработаешь ) Как с войной … Можно договариваться ,но мы с начала ,повоюем )))
@badandy1029 жыл бұрын
Why haven't they planted grass and watered it? That would've done away with all the dust. And it would've taken care of the dust problem well before it started
@PhilJonesIII9 жыл бұрын
+andy badandy Because very few plants will grow in it. The silt is actually an anaerobic sludge made up largely of part-decomposed vegetation. Notice how the trees stumps from the time of construction are still there. They wont rot until there is enough oxygen. Plenty of dust of the type that will play hell with your lungs and when wet will stink to high heaven. The method of draining that lake was nothing short of vandalism. They took a huge risk by releasing that muck not just because of the potential erosion but the speed at which it will deplete oxygen in the water. They were lucky not to kill the very fish they were trying to save.
@claudiasmemaw8 жыл бұрын
+andy badandy Water it? With WHAT? The well is DRY!
@claudiasmemaw8 жыл бұрын
+andy badandy Water it? With WHAT? The well is DRY!
@chugachocho9 жыл бұрын
Be glad!! The oceans want/need that dust. Now the oceans can receive some nutrients. It's a small step.
@noblejennette21013 жыл бұрын
This guy’s plan is obviously to plant a cross tree and watch it propagate in abundance down to the water. Very forward thinking of him.
@delavan91418 ай бұрын
LOL good one!
@delavan91418 ай бұрын
What's a tragic news segment without getting someone to cry? I swear, people think that's what they need to do when the cameras are rolling. This guy had a long time to consider the coming changes, yet he doesn't seem to have prepared emotionally or mentally. Probably the reason they interviewed just this one guy.
@peterrefermat89994 жыл бұрын
the condit dam removal positively affected everyone involved, including nature. you can watch this great video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fna2kGCagLp4b6s.
@Crismodin4 жыл бұрын
I like the response the people who ran the Dam gave- "heyy man, we were like only focused on ourselves not these other people"
@jjmerago13 жыл бұрын
Seeing as the land is not other peoples land but the dam owners they can focus on what they chose. That's what happens when you lease corporate land. Don't drop your life's work onto land you don't own.
@Crismodin3 жыл бұрын
@@jjmerago1 that is an awful excuse.
@gregsmith78283 жыл бұрын
50 bucks worth of seed from the dollar store would fix that the 1st rain
@Dogatemyhomework9277 ай бұрын
Is there any updates to the current conditions?
@georgehaydukeiii639614 күн бұрын
This is from 12 years ago. The whole area looks great now. Beautiful meadows full of wildflowers and young trees. These folks have such short-term mindsets. Pathetic.
@ericpmoss9 жыл бұрын
Why did they blow it up rather than slowly drain it and dismantle it? I don't know the trade-offs, but it would *seem* that draining it over the span of a year would allow time to re-vegetate banks without the flood of erosion and silt. Even if blowing it up was the best option, it also seems that the company who owns the land should have been seeding grasses from the air ASAP.
@asomes22009 жыл бұрын
eric moss My understanding is they blow it up such that the sudden removal will also remove the millions of tons of sediment built up over years (lots of truck loads, money), but also provides habitat/beach downstream.
@ericpmoss9 жыл бұрын
An interesting trade-off -- shock to the downstream, but quick clean-up of the upstream. Thanks for the insight.
@asomes22009 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I believe this dam was one of the earlier removals, with earlier thinking. I was pleased to see a different approach with the Elwha Dam (?) dam that did a slow release/natural erosion removal of the sediment. cheers
@ericpmoss9 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine a bunch; it just seems like a slower release would be easier to survive than wall of mud. Maybe it's not as hard on the fish as it looks, though I still wonder about bird and animal nests at the edges downstream.
@jamesbraun98424 жыл бұрын
He should run a line to the river for getting water.
@Jimbogf8 жыл бұрын
That cross is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
@sdavis79166 жыл бұрын
His point is that that cross is the dumbest thing he has ever seen. That's his point. Pretty clear.
@rickoshay65546 жыл бұрын
I really doubt that. It's mighty hard to avoid a mirror nowadays.
@koholohan3478 Жыл бұрын
Oh no! The White Salmon River is going to become a river again....with healthy white salmon...and an ecosystem that isn't too warm and stagnant....how terrible 😐
@billytopa2 жыл бұрын
Get beavers in there, they’ll whip up a dam in no time.
@at66863 жыл бұрын
There’s a documentary on this. The vegetation is coming back.
@stevelindstedt88583 жыл бұрын
. . . as are the salmon runs.
@at66863 жыл бұрын
We’ll have to see about them. As climate change affects everything the unfortunate fish may not be able to comeback longterm. I hope so, but with warmer temps and lower flows they may not be able to adapt (like us, and the rest of the natural world).
@sergeantseven42405 жыл бұрын
I thought they were supposed to seed the area for soil erosion? What happened with that? This seems like poor planning.
@scottblack82665 жыл бұрын
A torture devices , always warms my heart ! Lol
@--dh--5 жыл бұрын
you beat me to it
@ronaaserude822510 жыл бұрын
people didn't see this coming? really??? I'm no hydrologist, but I know every dam is silted up on the bottom and that stuff is gonna turn to dust and blow around when the water is gone!
@NDwhITeBoYZ2 жыл бұрын
It'll be a solid Decade before it's blown away. Sometimes life's a B, man made dams with no use need to be removed
@hia52352 жыл бұрын
I guess but these peoples lives are ruined.
@ianmiles25052 жыл бұрын
@@hia5235 So were the indigenous tribes when the dam.was built.
@JamesCasatelli2 жыл бұрын
@@hia5235 Nobody's life was ruined by this. This guy in the video is just a whiner.
@StellarLunar2 жыл бұрын
The dam was removed a decade ago and the area has grown in and looks beautiful now.
@thejll3 жыл бұрын
What is it like today, many years later?
@ForbinColossus3 жыл бұрын
Seeing this is 12/2020, I hope the sediment dust sprouted some groundcover.
@unitedstatesoffugu9 ай бұрын
watching this back years later, this is still heartbreaking.
@drinkingpoolwater4 жыл бұрын
this guys really complaining. i mean he knew it was coming. jeez.
@ssvocals3 жыл бұрын
I'll grow up. You have no idea what he knew and what he didn't know. I'm sure that he had no idea when he built the house
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
I'll come tear your house down next year. No big deal. You know it's coming.
@melkathleen64602 жыл бұрын
It had to happen, for the environment, for the fish ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@MrMarblemania10 жыл бұрын
Cover will grow back, but not as fast as this whiner wants I am sure.
@Anonymous-or4ru6 жыл бұрын
Yep, he may not have a lake but he'll still be in the wild next to a river when vegetation covers ground. But he's blubbing cos he just wants 'his' fucking lake back. Wasn't yours to begin with mate. You chose to build there.
@sirissac2346 жыл бұрын
Your abrasive infantile comment fits your pathetic name. He ISN'T next to the river, he was on the extended portion of the lake. Why shouldn't anyone who bought or built a home and a life on the edge of a lake not want to have the lake remain? You show little to no empathy, consideration, or humanity for what should be the obvious and reasonable needs and considerations of others who invested their time, money, and lives in properties and homes which now are worth far less and have dust bowl issues which after a year show no signs of vegetation growth that might fix them. Grow up and get some basic humanity.
@Anonymous-or4ru6 жыл бұрын
Newton? Yeah right. I have empathy for those who deserve it. People inflicted with terminal illness and disease. Not some tit who moved in with the corporations to capitalise on the damaged environment. This bloke can't accept progress. Things change, his house just got devalued. Too bad. Shit happens. And now the fishies and the birdies and the wildlife get back what they lost. All he's lost is some water. The grass has since grown back, the dust isn't an issue now. So he can't go out in his boat now. Big whoopeedoo. He should stop being an ass and enjoy the reinstated waterway. He's not been made homeless. Cry me a fucking river!
@Anonymous-or4ru6 жыл бұрын
PS. He hasn't lost the roof over his head, it's merely lost some value. It's entitled people like yourself and this bloke who can only see riches in money. Rather than lament his terrible misfortune (not), he should learn to appreciate the tranquility that surrounds him; the simple things in life. He's too self-pitying to realise he's luckier than most who despite their efforts still struggle to afford a meal let alone a home, and one in such a peaceful environment. And it's soft saps like you that think the world owes him everything, just because his lifestyle has been altered. It's poor cunts who struggle to survive that deserve your empathy, not this spoiled twat.
@sirissac2346 жыл бұрын
"I have empathy for those who deserve it. People inflicted with terminal illness and disease." So only those inflicted with a terminal disease deserve empathy? Nevermind the simple fact that an innocent old man and woman, along with 50+ other families or residents, suddenly had their entire lives overturned. Your witless kneejerk resort to class warfarism and attempt to turn this into a David vs Goliath, innocent nature vs evil corporation and greedy rich landowners, battle is simply false and moronic and devoid of any actual factual basis whatsoever. The Condit Hydroelectric Project was built by the Northwestern Electric Company in 1913 to serve the needs of Crown Willamette Paper Company and the people of Portland. It wasn't acquired by the corporation PacifiCorp until 1947. The Washington State Fisheries Department required Northwestern Electric to build fish ladders on the original dam, which they did, and then redid, flooding destroying the ladders twice. The Fisheries Department then required them to participate in a fish hatchery instead of rebuilding the ladders, which they did. Then in 1996 the federal government ordered PacifiCorp to alter the dam and add fish ladders, it was too expensive, so PacifiCorp was the initiator of the dam decommissioning process. Both the Northwestern Electric Company and PacifiCorp followed the state and federal government's instructions regarding the Condit Dam, PacifiCorp going BEYOND what was required to remove the dam. Nowhere is that acknowledged in your little diatribe about "moved in with the corporations to capitalise on the damaged environment" BS comment. As if somehow all private or public usage of land is somehow inferior to leaving it untouched. You have all of the apparent hallmarks of a typical modern environmentalist, a misanthrope who falls over himself declaring care and love for "fishies and the birdies and the wildlife" while fundamentally hating humanity.
@randysutton25002 жыл бұрын
What you need is a beaver
@andrewhuffman44435 ай бұрын
The feller in the hard cat gave about as bullshitted answer as I’ve ever dreamt of one
@brucewalker68526 жыл бұрын
The people were screwd and left high and dry
@bigwheel65336 жыл бұрын
Only a fool builds on land that he doesn't own
@Joshua79C6 жыл бұрын
Not even the government owns land, not even federal level owns any of earth, we are all living on borrowed time
@ExploringCabinsandMines5 жыл бұрын
Question... can the salmon make it up the 30 ft waterfall 13 miles upstream? NO do gooders fail again.
@SailorAllan10 жыл бұрын
so,instead of a lakefront property,now your gonna be on a golf course.........
@autotrance7 жыл бұрын
It is called The White Salmon River I guess because salmon used to live in it. I hope they will return to spawn again. Wipe off your tears grandpa. You had a good run old man, now let the nature take its course.
@bmac7807 жыл бұрын
Nobody there ever heard of hydroseeding?
@Kalithrasis6 ай бұрын
LOL what massive babies. This river is being restored and all they can whine about is some dust. Hopefully these giant babies had the sense to find somewhere else to live rather than whining and crying to your reporters.
@mj-pg3uj3 жыл бұрын
All dams should be removed. Live within nature.
@ssvocals3 жыл бұрын
I agree all dams! Including the one that provides your power and water!
@arthurbrumagem38442 жыл бұрын
@@ssvocals yeah solar and wind will replace the lost power - NOT
@iman-pv2sc7 жыл бұрын
Sue everyone....
@faeezf2 жыл бұрын
Returning the nature back to its original form
@chip63us4 жыл бұрын
Oh the dust plant grass, dah
@cann55653 жыл бұрын
No science here, just karen and her husband complaining.
@lag97657 ай бұрын
The land will be restored in time...
@boahneelassmal4 жыл бұрын
Get some seeds and grow a lawn, plant a few bushes and boom, problem soved... it ain't rocket sciences... it's gardening...
@brianjacobsen57625 жыл бұрын
Try living in wheat County. Dusty all the time.
@marvinacklin7922 жыл бұрын
No more dam, no more lake
@tsherwood21123 ай бұрын
If they're so keen on keeping things the same, they should rejoice about the dam removal and give their land and houses back to the native americans 😂
@thatoneguy6112 жыл бұрын
Boo hoo. You got a bigger lawn with a raised porch.