Connections between Radagon and the Gloam-Eyed-Queen / Elden Ring Lore

[@sorteinfame]

Radagon is also connected with sewing and stitching, since the gold sewing needle is a gift from Radagon to Rennala. Seems like he had some sewing skills, which may link him to the godskins

[@dstnddeath]

eyy thanks for your input! Never thought about that!

[@ComradeCollosus]

In mythology sewing is often used to represent weaving in and out of the spirit realm. As the needle passes through the cloth you are "piercing the veil" between the two worlds.

[@ComradeCollosus]

In Japan there's the red thread of fate. The old women outside our realm weave together the tapestry of fate in Norse mythology. You could even find some superficial parallels with child taking, spinning hair into gold, in the RumplestiltSKIN story.

[@sorteinfame]

@@ComradeCollosus super interesting considered that shaman's main thing is their liminal position between life and death. I was thinkinf about the "mending" aspect of radagin (trying to fix order, the elden ring, etc) repairing instead of destroying. Stopping decay

[@sorteinfame]

@@ComradeCollosus sorry fot the mistyping

[@khallous]

It’s also worth noting that Adult Miquella’s hair is modeled with an uncanny resemblance to the ancient Elden Ring found in Farum Azula

[@Jadizi]

Sometimes I feel like he Is just as much Marika as St Trina is him

[@vsevolodpoddyh8191]

Hmm it actually does.

[@cardgameenjoyer7446]

Statue is marika, her area is shadowland have SO many wolves.

[@diptube6563]

My theory is that glam eyes queen is marikas st Trina - this was her other self, Marika represented life and GEQ represented death - the hornsent jar ritual was likely utilized to fuse a shaman with the champion Radagon to create the situation we’re in today

[@Jadizi]

I think this too, there were so many failed jar experiments but I guess her spirit and his Spirit made the perfect Saint jar

[@diptube6563]

@@Jadizi It's truly one of the more horrific realizations of the Elden Ring DLC - the jarring ritual, at least one time, was successful in producing a saint

[@waltercook3843]

I like this theory, but the timeline doesn't match for me. However a thought occurs to me, perhaps, the farm azula statue is not Radagon, but rather his mother the Gloam Eyed Queen? Then the wolves and statues make sense, as Radagon merely takes after his mother.

[@robes2729]

If GEQ is a part of Marika she divested/sealed death then it can technically work. Three spirits/shadows/wolves one body/vessels/spirit tree (Japanese myth). An unholy trinity

[@robes2729]

Brother, great research! You said out loud a lot of the thoughts and theories I’ve had. Also look at the spiral tree seal, it literally has the god slayer great sword on it. Inspiring a secret religion…

[@kivsto8130]

Ranni gives you the wolf spirits and mentions an original owner

[@the1384]

My Brother let me enlighten you. Farum Azula was Once an Academy for Empyreans to learn and study Incantations and Dragon Communion and also to select a New Vessel for the Elden Ring. Either Marika was chosen before or after to what happened to her Village, but what we have to understand is that Marika was also selected as an Empyrean, brought to Farum Azula and received her Shadow Maliketh. She and GEQ were not the Only Empyreans in Farum Azula, making Farum Azula a Place Full of God Candidates. It’s similar to the Raya Lucaria Academy only that in Farum Azula the Empyreans learn Incantations and Faith. Then the Gloam-eyed Queen probably got seduced by a Serpent or Snake and came to the realization that by stealing the Rune of Death and Killing all God Candidates would leave only her as the Only Empyrean to be chosen as the God for the Coming Age and to be the Vessel of the Elden Ring. The Godskin used the Skins of the Empyreans that she slaughtered, that would explain their Name because they use the Skins of Empyreans, People who have the Quality and potential to become a God. Either Marika survived, helped or saw that Massacre coming and was chosen by the Elden Ring as Proxy because of what GEQ has done. Similar to what the Guidance of Grace did after the Demigods were not suited as Gods and or Lords for the coming Age. Using the Power of the Ancient Elden Ring , the one depicted in Farum Azula with the Rune of the Unborn still installed in it to turn the Empyrean-less Wolves into Beastmen to make her own Army. Also if The GEQ is Snake related wouldn’t Messsmer be her son. This is how I see it. Marika waged War against the GEQ, then created/transformed for the First Time ever to Radagon just to seduce the GEQ, impregnate her, then betray her and take away her Children to raise them on her own. It’s Similar to what Radagon did to Rennala. Godwyn, Messmer and Melina will never know that GEQ was their Original Mother. Because Marika tried to erase mostly everything related to the GEQ and Radagon during that Time Period, that being Farum Azula and later Shadowlands. Now Marika Equipped with the Elden Ring and an Army of Beastmen had 2 choices either wage War against the Hornsent to get Revenge or to seduce them to take everything away from them. Marika decided to use Radagons Tactic, seduce the Hornsent Lord, promising them a Age of Divine Horned Beasts, then getting Pregnant with twins being Morgott and Mohg, just to betray and sacrifice the Hornsent King for her own Goals and for Revenge. Hoar Loux who became Godfrey was probably manipulated to play the Role as Godwyns, Morgott and Mohgs Father, shortly after the Scadutree Sap was Harnessed and distributed and the Shadowlands Sealed with Messmer and Melina inside. Using Godfrey mostly to Wage War while Marika seduces the People of the Lands Between via the Concept of the Erdtree.

[@xtremeLo]

Ok... I clearly missed out on something. How / why do we know Farum Azula is an "academy". It feels more like a place of cult. There are no "books" nor stone tablets to register knowledge. Is more like a cemetery, a ritual place for transition of sorts, a temple, but it doesn't feel like an academy. Even more, empyreans are "seldom born" and we know only about 4 of them, which in this timeline would only have served for Marika and GEQ. They are so few that most likely were home-schooled like Miquella by Radagon or something, let alone have their own academy. I mean, I'm not discarding the possibility, on the contrary I just want to know a bit more about this interpretation.

[@Solibrae]

Miquella does have at least two connections with Farum Azula. Miquella's Needle can only be used to supress the Frenzied Flame inside Placidusax's arena, and the location itself can be only be seen from one other place outside of it: the Isolated Divine Tower in which you can restore his sister Malenia's Great Rune's power.

[@FranTheMan78]

There's a similar statue in the haligtree, close to Loretta's boss arena.

[@kitkat6959]

Yeah this is what convinced me it's Miquella

[@FreeRunful]

I’m not sure what this might suggest though. Was Radagon the part of Marika that seduced and betrayed the GEQ? Does this suggest that the GEQ is also radagon? Sadly I think it still leaves us with some important questions to determine the identity of the GEQ.

[@robes2729]

I think Marika’s body serves as a physical vessel, which had different spirits transferred into it and divested from it. Three spirits, one body… a twisted holy Trinity for those Christians

[@the1384]

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[@NeroAngelo2499]

Yeah no kidding. This wasn’t even a “theory” just a bunch of random interpretations.

[@Hexmoneyman]

The three wolves may be showing us there were three gods within the empyrean represtented by the statue, a wolf sent by the two fingers to gaurd each god candidate: Radadgon, Marika, and the gloam-eyed queen.

[@happyskeret5692]

At the very least it’s a good pick up by you regarding the godskin nobles and Radagons children. They are only the ones with Renalla and not his other children. I wonder why that is the case?

[@alexsantiago3181]

Ur theory that Radagon is the individual in the statue maybe be spot on. I like it, it matches up with ur evidence. My only question is, What exactly does Radagon have to do with the Gloam-Eyed Queen. That's what im confused about. Always have been. First i thought they may be the same person(a thrid alter ego of Marika's), then i thought maybe its Melina, Then i thought maybe it was Ranni. I seriously dont know. Im extremely Intruiged by The Gloam-Eyed Queen and the black flame.

[@the1384]

@@alexsantiago3181 Radagon seduced the Gloam Eyed Queen, just like he did with Rennala. The difference between those two seductions is that Radagon fall in Love with Rennala, while the GEQ was betrayed, sacrificed and Transformed into a Sword by Radagon, that Sword being the Godslayer Greatsword, The Symbol the Hornsent use while using Incantations is a Spiral Sword, looks similar to the Godslayer Great Sword… And Radagon got a Blade from Rennala but he Modified it, maybe he did the same with a Blade gifted to him by GEQ. Radagons existence was always kept Hidden and they made sure that Radagon would stay unknown to the World, until the Events of Liurnia happened where Radagon tried his Best to be his own Person and to establish himself in History as a Lord who became a “God” .

[@flantos23]

radagon is the subsumed crucible, the "living" incarnation of the old order the golden erdtree replaced. this is why he resembles the fell god in so many ways. in the same way aspects of older religious traditions get incorporated in the new in our world, but because gods are real this process occurs in divine flesh. an interesting thing you dont go over is that we see a lot of white wolves in the game, being ridden by albunarics.

[@pustuleofyelough]

It’s cuz GeQ IS MARIKA it’s who she was before she ascended to godhood

[@DreadNadine]

I tried to wait till the end of your video, but I was like shouting at the screen lol but another thing that represents that blended nature besides the trees, statues, animal/human, human/animal mixes. JARS. A cruicible itself can be taken as a form of a jar. An interesting thing in Doaist Magic is the idea of magic through: jars. It's also a very old chinese belief and even forms the word for poison in their language (it used to look like a jar with bugs in it, but over time its turned into the word for poison they have today, but you can still see the remnents of it) The idea that a jar is the form of heaven, earth, and the divine, and thus can create anew from what is put inside (a reflection of how you are a vessel and can create from within). A form of baneful magic with it ("dark" magic if you will, but not always necessarily with bad implications. 'You must know the sting of the nettle before you can learn to make the salve' sort of thing is a huge aspect of baneful magic) is when you take a jar and fill with it all of the most aweful, poisonous, deadly things into the jar. They will fight and mix and mingle until the one that survives is the most deadly, poisionous of them all not only that its the strongest, but also that it had to fight, eat, and be poisoned by the others and still survive. Absorb the others to become more powerful. Sounds a lot to me like what the Horsent were up to but in a twisted way where they thought they could make you better and more evolved through this process, taking advantage of the aspects and strengths of the numan to force this process, ignoring the true suffering and aweful it can bring without balance and care. After all, an antedote by another name and amount is called poison.

[@itzDusk]

I like this theory!

[@williambouchard1095]

do you have a theory about the amber egg that radagon give to rennala, ithick that the name of the rune insade describe not is power but the story of the egg

[@the1384]

I have an Idea. Maybe that Ember Egg was Radagon and Marikas First attempt to make a Child. Something went Wrong and they had to Embed the Baby in Golden Ember, the Twist being it’s still alive and has Powers bestowed to it. When Radagon saw that Magic and Spells can’t help him to Fix the Baby, he left it with Rennala and returned to the Erdtree Capital with the new knowledge of how to conceive a Child with Marika. But Rennala kept the Grim Art of Reincarnation for herself, just Like Miriel said. I believe that is what Radagon was looking for when he Entered the Carian Royal Household

[@JoeL-mm2lc]

stretch IMO but decent vid

[@ETERNALXGAMEPLAY]

So you’re saying Glom Eye Queen was on the side of Radagon…. Soo Marika was a male in her early years?

[@the1384]

My Brother let me enlighten you. Farum Azula was Once an Academy for Empyreans to learn and study Incantations and Dragon Communion and also to select a New Vessel for the Elden Ring. Either Marika was chosen before or after to what happened to her Village, but what we have to understand is that Marika was also selected as an Empyrean, brought to Farum Azula and received her Shadow Maliketh. She and GEQ were not the Only Empyreans in Farum Azula, making Farum Azula a Place Full of God Candidates. It’s similar to the Raya Lucaria Academy only that in Farum Azula the Empyreans learn Incantations and Faith. Then the Gloam-eyed Queen probably got seduced by a Serpent or Snake and came to the realization that by stealing the Rune of Death and Killing all God Candidates would leave only her as the Only Empyrean to be chosen as the God for the Coming Age and to be the Vessel of the Elden Ring. The Godskin used the Skins of the Empyreans that she slaughtered, that would explain their Name because they use the Skins of Empyreans, People who have the Quality and potential to become a God. Either Marika survived, helped or saw that Massacre coming and was chosen by the Elden Ring as Proxy because of what GEQ has done. Similar to what the Guidance of Grace did after the Demigods were not suited as Gods and or Lords for the coming Age. Using the Power of the Ancient Elden Ring , the one depicted in Farum Azula with the Rune of the Unborn still installed in it to turn the Empyrean-less Wolves into Beastmen to make her own Army. Also if The GEQ is Snake related wouldn’t Messsmer be her son. This is how I see it. Marika waged War against the GEQ, then created/transformed for the First Time ever to Radagon just to seduce the GEQ, impregnate her, then betray her and take away her Children to raise them on her own. It’s Similar to what Radagon did to Rennala. Godwyn, Messmer and Melina will never know that GEQ was their Original Mother. Because Marika tried to erase mostly everything related to the GEQ and Radagon during that Time Period, that being Farum Azula and later Shadowlands. Now Marika Equipped with the Elden Ring and an Army of Beastmen had 2 choices either wage War against the Hornsent to get Revenge or to seduce them to take everything away from them. Marika decided to use Radagons Tactic, seduce the Hornsent Lord, promising them a Age of Divine Horned Beasts, then getting Pregnant with twins being Morgott and Mohg, just to betray and sacrifice the Hornsent King for her own Goals and for Revenge. Hoar Loux who became Godfrey was probably manipulated to play the Role as Godwyns, Morgott and Mohgs Father, shortly after the Scadutree Sap was Harnessed and distributed and the Shadowlands Sealed with Messmer and Melina inside. Using Godfrey mostly to Wage War while Marika seduces the People of the Lands Between via the Concept of the Erdtree.