Consciousness & Its Physical Headset - Donald Hoffman - 2/15/2024

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@kiwisolutionz4646
@kiwisolutionz4646 8 күн бұрын
Don ... you are the key for humankind on planet earth right here and right now! You are the only one who is speaking clear and concise with your endless work for the betterment of humankind whilst our global leaders continue to fight for greed, power, control over the masses, feeding us nothing but lies and deceit with genetically modified diets today! Thank you very much for your brilliance and passion to keep us all in the loop Don, you really are the light bearer "outside of spacetime". If you ever need accommodation in New Zealand down on the Kapiti Coast Don - our house is your house without even meeting you in person, I can see and feel the energy flow from within you good sir! Much love and respect to you Sir Don, you are joining the dots for us like no other can, for the first time in 62 years I feel like you are the first person who makes great sense of the bigger picture of "What is our purpose" Thank you very much Don, I can feel the light turning on deep down in the dark ******************* Nobel peace prize for Sir Don Hoffman 100% *******************
@marcg1043
@marcg1043 3 ай бұрын
donald at his best!!! Thanks for this talk. Its so amazing to see how Don’s Theory progresses over the years and how things come together that make many of his ideas extremely plausible. Looking forward to Don pushing that boundary of knowledge ever further. Thank you.
@kayakMike1000
@kayakMike1000 3 ай бұрын
Consciousness is an illusion. You are not your thoughts.
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist 2 ай бұрын
@@kayakMike1000 Consciousness is not an illusion because it makes no sense to say that you only seem like you are conscious. If you say that you only seem like you are conscious, you are practically saying that you are not conscious despite the evidence staring you in the face, so to speak. Illusionism and eliminativism are thus absurd hypotheses. You also make the mistake of assuming that thoughts equate with consciousness. Not so. Although thoughts are contents of consciousness that can arise in someone's mind, it is possible to reach states of consciousness devoid of thinking. Do not mistake the appearance in your field of awareness for consciousness itself. I can observe my phone and it makes an appearance in my consciousness but I can look away from it and I still remain conscious. In the same vein, I can think of my dog one minute and forget about him the next when I try to remember what I had for breakfast this morning.
@lukaslukason
@lukaslukason 2 ай бұрын
Mister Hoffman makes the following fallacy: A. "Human conception of reality i s finetuned to EVOLUTIONARY survival" and B. "Time and space are UNREAL human constructs" Contradiction:: EVOLUTION (A) CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT TIME, as evolution i s a PREMISS of time (B). Conclusion: Mister Hoffman's theory proved WRONG. Lukas Lukason, Denmark.
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist 2 ай бұрын
@@lukaslukason He never said they are unreal, just that they are not fundamental, but they are still features of observed reality.
@marcg1043
@marcg1043 2 ай бұрын
@@lukaslukason you are mistaken. listen to Donald closely. Both evolution and time and space exist but time (and space) are NOT fundamental and are constructs for our human existance or experience. they emerge from something else. And not Donald but many other scientists have proven the latter. Donalds theory of consciousness and reality is just based on the universally accepted knowledge that time and space are not fundamental.
@noneya5712
@noneya5712 2 ай бұрын
Amazing talk!!! Thank you Kunal for allowing the brilliance to spill through and not cut him off 👏👏
@MOAON_AABE
@MOAON_AABE 2 ай бұрын
Donald Hoffman is my hero and a pioneer!!!
@giriharan6358
@giriharan6358 2 ай бұрын
Donald speech is always stress busting❤
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist 3 ай бұрын
Donald Hoffman is closer to the truth in my opinion. I used to be a materialist. But not anymore and my reasons are articulated in my videos. Physical reality exists but isn't what people intuitively think it is. I think of it as a mental simulation, including its observers whose avatars are expressions of a universal mind. In essence, I am saying that our universe is but one shared dream amidst an infinitude. The feeling that there is a material world existing apart from the medium of mind is an illusion-an abstraction first peddled by medieval, heretical activists who wanted to undermine the religious authorities of that time. So far, the evidence I've looked at and personal experiences tell me that we are-as spatiotemporally constricted perspectives-instances of localised mind. Once that cerebral headset of yours is expended, you are free to transcend space and time: when you become nonlocal, you become the whole. You become omniscient and omnipresent. Unlimited perspective as an eternal witness. God, if you prefer. Remember: being human isn't all that you are. That's something your consciousness currently identifies with. Imagine that clay is analogous to the medium of mind and the objects that it can form are analogous to the objects that make up the world-including your body. Your body, like all the other objects in the world, are only transient. Your body is expendable due to the laws of nature as the world is in constant flux. But the real you is something more fundamental and unchanging. What I am trying to say here is that you are not the clumps, pots and plates that can be made out of clay. You are the clay itself. The clay never changes. The objects do because they are only illusions that we name and conceptualise-Adi Shankara called them 'unreal' for this very reason. The only real thing is the clay (mind). Despite the changes, there was only ever clay. There was only ever MIND. The Buddha said it well when he said: 'In the sky, there is no distinction of east and west; people create distinctions out of their own minds and then believe them to be true.'
@NotNecessarily-ip4vc
@NotNecessarily-ip4vc 3 ай бұрын
Materialism told us that the observable universe (1D, 2D, 3D and 4D) was "locally real." Quantum physics proved the observable universe is actually "not locally real" a year ago. Locally real = more real Not locally real = less real So, it's almost like simulation theory has been saying (just add God haha). In zero vs nonzero numbers if one is "locally real" then the other is "not locally real". So the difference between 0 and 1 flip-flopped in Oct 2022. Then: 0 = not locally real 1 = locally real Now: 0 = locally real 1 = not locally real If you're wondering if that's epic or not just remember that Rick Sanchez collapsed a Galactic Federation by changing a 1 into a 0 (economically, but you get the idea).
@Braun09tv
@Braun09tv 2 ай бұрын
Localized mind or the brain as a hot spot, of course with imperfections.
@peterkuhn78
@peterkuhn78 Ай бұрын
There might be a very interesting conversation between Donald Hoffman and Daniel Siegel, based on Hoffman's Case against reality and Siegel's Awareness, concerning the plane of potentiality, which is the plane of Pure Awareness.
@sunitadawadi7077
@sunitadawadi7077 3 ай бұрын
How can I reach you, Kunal?
@chyfields
@chyfields 3 ай бұрын
If you enjoy physicality, individuality, the stories and the music, then don't ditch space-time.
@jl9088
@jl9088 2 ай бұрын
Wow, that was interesting. Though this is unrelated I want to ask this question because I feel the need to do so. Do you guys do anything to help accomplish the goal of the SDGs? If not do you guys do anything that is similar to it?
@sunitadawadi7077
@sunitadawadi7077 3 ай бұрын
Kunal, Sadguru Siva Gorakh. We have developed a hypothesis on human consciousness giving its name Agam Hypothesis. Can you help us reach Caltech? Thank you with humility.
@Saturnixdumont
@Saturnixdumont 3 ай бұрын
Is it possible that our memories will be retained after we die?
@ericgraham8975
@ericgraham8975 3 ай бұрын
I hope not lol
@drdr1957
@drdr1957 3 ай бұрын
#30👍💯😊
@ZENTEN7777
@ZENTEN7777 3 ай бұрын
If there is no space time what happens to entropy? If entropy ceases to exist does that mean we can live forever?
@Braun09tv
@Braun09tv 2 ай бұрын
Well, it means we not only live here in the space time layers. We're coming out of vacuum just as everything else we can see came out of the vacuum. So there is a hidden world and it seems we are living there but just don't see it.
@lukaslukason
@lukaslukason 2 ай бұрын
Mister Hoffman makes the following fallacy: A. "Human conception of reality i s finetuned to EVOLUTIONARY survival" and B. "Time and space are UNREAL human constructs" Contradiction:: EVOLUTION (A) CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT TIME, as evolution i s a PREMISS of time (B). Conclusion: Mister Hoffman's theory proved WRONG. Lukas Lukason, Denmark.
@Braun09tv
@Braun09tv 2 ай бұрын
@@lukaslukason no, he just says that spacetime has been created by something else, it's not the bottom.
@ZENTEN7777
@ZENTEN7777 2 ай бұрын
But the whole construct of our discussion is inside what we all are experiencing as reality. So if you were somewhere outside of the reality where our current experiences are happening then how can you know what’s happening to be a part of it. You said everything is an illusion but this is an observation you are making inside what is reality. So technically you are inside of an illusion saying that reality is an illusion
@Braun09tv
@Braun09tv 2 ай бұрын
@@ZENTEN7777 everything is reality or nothing is. The word reality alone can only confuse. Because all is real and all is reality. It doesn't say anything.
@marchanson711
@marchanson711 3 ай бұрын
Very low audio gain.
@hermonhill6253
@hermonhill6253 Ай бұрын
Is the amplituhedron outside space and time in the sense that it's only conceived of in "mind"? And then used as mathematical tool in equations that exclude space/time? I don't understand the outside space and time quote from Mr Hoffman
@Secretgeek2012
@Secretgeek2012 6 күн бұрын
Non physicist/mathematician here. The way I understand it, from this and other talks by Donald, is that the amplituhedron is a mathematical geometry that doesn't require spacetime to exist. In addition, the amplituhedron can itself be used to describe things which occur with spacetime, such as certain particle collisions. In addition, he mentions several other of these shapes that, i assume can do similar. Ultimately, what is proposed is that everything from space-time itself and everything in it can be "projected" from mathematical geometries that lie outside space-time. It seems similar to me to the holographic principle, which claims that our entire 4D space is simply a projection of the higher dimensional boundary of a black hole.
@jayjenkins6021
@jayjenkins6021 2 ай бұрын
So if minds and neurons do not exist until looked at, consciousness does not need that to exist, what is the purpose of physical bodies? They must serve a purpose.... is the mind more of a receiver than a creator if consciousness?? It's all fascinating, but give me something I can use. Teach me how to think myself into a better reality.... think that "fitness payoff" of a full bank account into existence.
@Secretgeek2012
@Secretgeek2012 6 күн бұрын
Mr Hoffman hypothesises that space-time and our physical world exist in order for the underlying consciousness to define itself. Specifically, to learn what it is by defining what it isn't. We are one ultimate consciousness looking at itself from a trillion trillion perspectives in order to discover what we are. This isn't about learning how to actualise wealth, or power, or fame. It's about learning that, in the most fundamental way possible, none of those things matter.
@innerlight617
@innerlight617 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting thanks for uploading! DH:1.00.17" i would like to move on to more interesting headsets this is a pretty cheap one.."Me too!🙏
@saberier2
@saberier2 3 ай бұрын
I had a dream about consciousness where the substrate was some spinning fans about 6x8 in a grid. Consciousness only happened when they were all spinning creating a complete screen of vision. When a few fans stopped spinning the consciousness fell apart.
@kayakMike1000
@kayakMike1000 3 ай бұрын
Your subconscious knows something interesting. Consciousness is an illusion much like the persistence of image illusion on a spinning fan blade. Doesn't it seem like a substrate of spinning fans is an unexpected place to find consciousness?
@mstrG
@mstrG 3 ай бұрын
lol, how You know that consciousness was the subject of Your dream ? You made my day :d
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist 2 ай бұрын
@@kayakMike1000 My reply to you here is the same: @kayakMike1000 Consciousness is not an illusion because it makes no sense to say that you only seem like you are conscious. If you say that you only seem like you are conscious, you are practically saying that you are not conscious despite the evidence staring you in the face, so to speak. Illusionism and eliminativism are thus absurd hypotheses. You also make the mistake of assuming that thoughts equate with consciousness. Not so. Although thoughts are contents of consciousness that can arise in someone's mind, it is possible to reach states of consciousness devoid of thinking. Do not mistake the appearance in your field of awareness for consciousness itself. I can observe my phone and it makes an appearance in my consciousness but I can look away from it and I still remain conscious. In the same vein, I can think of my dog one minute and forget about him the next when I try to remember what I had for breakfast this morning.
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist 2 ай бұрын
Magic happens in dreams. The thought of spinning fans MAGICALLY giving rise to consciousness, however, is absurd.
@saberier2
@saberier2 3 ай бұрын
I like listening to Donald and his creatine mind
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist 2 ай бұрын
Ad hominems do not constitute a counterargument against conscious realism.
@NotNecessarily-ip4vc
@NotNecessarily-ip4vc 3 ай бұрын
Isn't⚡God⚡supposed to be outside of space (1D, 2D, 3D) and time (4D)? Well, 0D is outside of space and time: 0D (not-natural) = dimensionless and timeless 1D, 2D, 3D (natural) = spatial dimensions 4D (natural) = temporal dimension
@mstrG
@mstrG 3 ай бұрын
not outside but beyond, infinite is present in all dimensions
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