Contra Rotating Propellers: The Hidden Key to Supercharged Aircraft Performance

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@OldSloGuy
@OldSloGuy Жыл бұрын
The TU-95 was a shocker when it arrived. It was the answer to the B-52. The early B-52's were faster and had an 8,000 mile unrefueled range. The Soviets didn't have the engines to match the B-52's performance. The TU-95 was 100 mph faster than our engineers thought possible for a prop plane and had an 11,000 mile range. They could and did operate out of far eastern Soviet air bases and fly up an down the west coast of north america as far south as Mexico and return non-stop and unrefueled.
@peterjackson2625
@peterjackson2625 10 ай бұрын
I worked on the Fairey Gannet aircraft engine in 1955. The contra-rotating propellers powered by 2 independent engines was a key feature of this very successful submarine hunter.
@txvet7738
@txvet7738 Жыл бұрын
I think the Russians have put in the most work/research into this and have made some awesome aircraft utilizing that technology!
@andreapehjerne8490
@andreapehjerne8490 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@gazza2933
@gazza2933 Жыл бұрын
They just copy the west. You only have to look at their aircraft designs. 🇬🇧
@rosevitelli5814
@rosevitelli5814 Жыл бұрын
Wrong USA
@linkernick5379
@linkernick5379 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Tupolev TU-95
@andrewday3206
@andrewday3206 Жыл бұрын
NK-93
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 9 ай бұрын
I firmly believe that counter-rotation is the way to go. THE noise factor can be ironed out using the latest technology that is used in the marine industry. The efficiency is over 100 percent, more like 120 to 130 percent. This is the way to go for the long run. Nice interesting video Sir.
@andrewday3206
@andrewday3206 Жыл бұрын
The Kuznetsov NK-93 was a Contra-Rotating Geared Turbofan. It was ducted and would have been the most efficient jet engine in the world as well as the quietest contra-rotating aircraft engine. It had flight testing for 2006 to 2008 but lack of investment held it back.
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 4 ай бұрын
i remember that programme. i was super sad when it was wound down. I do remember though that there were some technical difficulties they could not overcome at that time.
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 Жыл бұрын
The primary usage of contra-rotating props seems to be in aircraft with SO MUCH power a single prop can't handle it without being way excessively long. Reference the Soviet "Bear" and it's many offspring - some of those offspring are still in use today.
@bubbapate5740
@bubbapate5740 Жыл бұрын
The U.S. would occasionally develop an airplane with contra rotation blade, but the Russians have a long history of using them. It is nothing new.
@longboardfella5306
@longboardfella5306 9 ай бұрын
After his crash in a contra rotating Howard Hughes did his best to kill off the field. They sure have their uses. But great bearings design and lubrication are key to keep them safe
@Just_Johnnie
@Just_Johnnie Жыл бұрын
Why don’t they paint the propeller in yellow to look like sun flowers?
@Pierchinggun
@Pierchinggun 8 ай бұрын
F18 Hornet. Iam coming 😂to di
@gbulmer
@gbulmer 5 ай бұрын
Somewhat better than click-bait, but very little concrete information. There are shorter videos with more information. Contra-rotating propellers are: noisy, cancel torque effect, allow the speed of propeller rotation to be reduced (avoiding supersonic propeller-tip speeds), more efficient than a single propeller (but not quantified), more complex than single prop (increase cost, weight, and reduce reliability), are used by several large Russian 'planes, and a couple from the UK. Best Wishes. ☮
@andyhiscox2750
@andyhiscox2750 Жыл бұрын
Just because you’d not heard of contra-rotating propellers, don’t assume that no one has. And, furthermore, don’t spend what felt like a hour to say something that can be said in two minutes.
@snipelite94
@snipelite94 Жыл бұрын
Video didn't really explore the physics of WHY contra-rotating props are actually more efficient. 🥴
@drbendover7467
@drbendover7467 Жыл бұрын
Counter rotating are used on winged aircraft when engines under preform:)
@greggwilliamson
@greggwilliamson Жыл бұрын
"Contra-rotating" props will hopefully be realized with the late '70s era UDF system. (Un-Ducted Fan). Before much more efficiency can be achieved, there must be a break from the "tube & wings" layout. A BWB system (Blended Wing Body) with twin vertical stabilizers can mitigate much of the noise pollution and increase lift.
@alexwood5425
@alexwood5425 Жыл бұрын
A lot of statements and repeated and repeated. No technical explanations as to why. Waste of time.
@jourdanjackson5365
@jourdanjackson5365 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this video was supposed to be longer lol.
@hesomagari1019
@hesomagari1019 9 ай бұрын
They could have mentioned counter rotating blade powered aircraft like the Sikorsky x2 series,and Kamov ka-52
@94520shatto
@94520shatto Жыл бұрын
The Propellers Rotated Backward
@newT033
@newT033 7 ай бұрын
When he said "...to unveil the truth about contra-rotating propellers." and then i see a 8 minutes video. Can't go that deep. I wished it would go deeper into detail why they work better than other options. Still good video for what it is.
@dhroman4564
@dhroman4564 Жыл бұрын
Every one of the diagram rotation drawing the props are turning in the wrong direction, why?
@carsten4594
@carsten4594 Жыл бұрын
The illustrator was just an illustrator.
@terrygerhart6878
@terrygerhart6878 8 ай бұрын
One of the features of the contra rotating propellers is the tendency for annoying background music to arise in vblogs about contra rotating propellers. Scientists with the latest high speed computers are trying to counter-act annoying background music phenomenon thought to be tied to ancient alien technology. Other than the background music, a good presentation
@geraldhoag5548
@geraldhoag5548 Жыл бұрын
As the Contra-rotating props have become more and more utilized, especially in mid sized transport the answer would seem to be clear, at least for now.
@ccfmfg
@ccfmfg Жыл бұрын
Or on Electric Motored Aircraft. It's also a Single compression stage that drives part of the efficiency benefit.
@MilesEdgeworth129
@MilesEdgeworth129 Жыл бұрын
Come up with a design of contra-rotating propellers that use toroidal blades, and you've got yourself a solidly-efficient (and quieter) engine.
@alexlo7708
@alexlo7708 10 ай бұрын
I don't feel noise level is different between the AN-70 contra rotating prop and A400M.
@johnroberts7018
@johnroberts7018 10 ай бұрын
I noticed the earlier American propfan engines from the 1980s like the GE-36 used contra-rotating propellers but the new designs have the rear blades stationary instead. Anyone know why this is?
@tonyscarsella7577
@tonyscarsella7577 9 ай бұрын
The stationary blades straighten the airflow, help increase efficiency. Same thing happens inside of jet engines. Hence the term, ‘stator blades’.
@sylvaleader
@sylvaleader Жыл бұрын
Late model Spitfires and Seafires used contra rotating propellers near the end of WW11 and beyond, but I am not sure they made that much of a difference.
@willpugh8865
@willpugh8865 9 ай бұрын
They built 18 of them in 1948 ww2 was over by 1945 bruh
@sylvaleader
@sylvaleader 9 ай бұрын
@@willpugh8865 They built a lot more than 18. I know for a fact that 90 Seafire f47s were built by Supermarine after the war. Some Spitfire 22's also had contraprops. Supermarine were also ran development Spits with both Merlins and Griffons that had Rotol 6 bladed contraprops.
@johnslugger
@johnslugger Жыл бұрын
*Contar Rotating props are VERY VERY VERY VERY LOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 Жыл бұрын
On a Bear maritime patrol variant. anyway.
@johnslugger
@johnslugger Жыл бұрын
@@bricefleckenstein9666 *True! 550 MPH for a prop plane is pretty good for that old Tupolev Tu-95 just about as fast as a jet with twice the fuel economy. Of coarse the real story is that captured German engineers build it behind the scenes and their names were buried along with them. The USSR had their own version of "Operation Paper-Clip".*
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 Жыл бұрын
@@johnslugger One of the variants holds the all-time record for fastest prop aircraft (not the pure piston record though, since it's a turboprop). I THINK it was one of the airliner versions (Tu-114 or Tu-116) but not 100% certain. I'm sure there was SOME input into the design from captured German engineers - but by 10 years after the war the Soviets themselves had learned and advanced quite a bit on their own, and FAR surpassed the Germans of the time in some fields.
@wanderschlosser1857
@wanderschlosser1857 Жыл бұрын
​@@bricefleckenstein9666The design team for the Nk-12 was led by Ferdinand Brandner, an ex-Junkers engineer until 1953. This engine was in big parts designed by captured Junkers engineers. It certainly was not only "some" input. It's still the most powerful serial turboprop ever built, 70 years after its creation.
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 Жыл бұрын
@@wanderschlosser1857 But the ENGINE (which was largely ex-German design I grant) is nowhere near the entire AIRPLANE (most of which was NOT ex-German designed). I stand by my comment.
@budisutanto5987
@budisutanto5987 9 ай бұрын
Like the original plan on torpedo, put the counter rotating propeller at the back, on commercial aircraft, so the noise is away from the passenger.
@mencken8
@mencken8 Жыл бұрын
Well, I hate to pop anyone’s balloon, but YES, I have heard of it….?
@kendee9166
@kendee9166 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use Contra Rotating Toroidal propeller?
@bozhijak
@bozhijak 6 ай бұрын
For what application?
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 4 ай бұрын
i was always confused why the tu95 never updated the engines to the d27's as they were significantly better and decades newer.
@a627246
@a627246 Жыл бұрын
So is it fueleffective?
@ULZIMAKUM
@ULZIMAKUM Жыл бұрын
Yes
@bozhijak
@bozhijak 6 ай бұрын
Extremely
@ttinnovations3310
@ttinnovations3310 9 ай бұрын
Electric is coming, and coming with Contra Rotating electric over jets for smaller aircraft, will be interesting to see, or hybrid systems
@Sailor376also
@Sailor376also Жыл бұрын
"Is it truly effective, or do they fall short of expectations? " Your question. Answer the damned thing. Sorry your 8 minute tap dance around just saying something is like the infomercials that lead you on and never give you the information. Just say it.. They are expensive, heavy, and additional mechanical that can fail. But yeah,, they work. If you can afford them. KISS principle.
@zvast
@zvast Жыл бұрын
@Queenlawrencesingh159
@Queenlawrencesingh159 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@Military-TV
@Military-TV Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@waleedali9393
@waleedali9393 Жыл бұрын
@@Military-TV thank you so much for your awesome job
@chrishowell4845
@chrishowell4845 5 ай бұрын
Didn`t the Soviets have a commercial airliner with Contra Rotating Propellers?
@kh40yr
@kh40yr 9 ай бұрын
Look up the Thunderscreech jet. There was talk of making it contra. All those TU Bear crewmen are going deaf
@frednoname3714
@frednoname3714 10 ай бұрын
Thx for vid, you can have a look at RISE prototype engine wich is neither a turboprporp, nor a tubofan, and could look like contraroratives fans.. RISE engine from SAFRAN interresting
@jb5music
@jb5music Жыл бұрын
Contra: "low" Counter: "opposite"
@faisal_lhim
@faisal_lhim Жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future there will be a contra blade fan in jet engine.
@pierrebuffiere5923
@pierrebuffiere5923 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what that would achieve.
@Notathingmatters
@Notathingmatters 9 ай бұрын
Hmm. Turboprop as shown in video is a jet engine, technically.
@texasgrillchef8581
@texasgrillchef8581 Жыл бұрын
Why still use propellers for commercial aircraft anyways when jet engines can provide more power using less fuel. Private aviation I get still using propeller driven aircraft. Military aircraft I get still using propeller driven aircraft as well. But this same tech is also used in Helicopters. Which is really just a larger propeller pointed in a different direction.
@v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31
@v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31 9 ай бұрын
You can recall Howard Hughs nearly killing working on a similar project
@PavlosPapageorgiou
@PavlosPapageorgiou 8 ай бұрын
The first 1/3 of the script is heavy on cliches. After that the pacing and content feels right.
@David-yy7lb
@David-yy7lb Жыл бұрын
I think the tu-95 is the fastest turboprop in the world or was it the thunder screech🤷🏿‍♂️
@mikesuch9021
@mikesuch9021 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap are you kidding me the first time I never heard of this was during world war II. I've been watching twin bladed aircraft since before you were born boy.
@graxxor
@graxxor 8 ай бұрын
CACR: coaxial counter-rotation.
@scottgalbraith7461
@scottgalbraith7461 9 ай бұрын
Hidden key to giant radar cross section.
@antoniodias2776
@antoniodias2776 11 ай бұрын
Excelente.
@Raven3one
@Raven3one Жыл бұрын
this video had no information on contra-rotating props that wasnt common sense. i was hoping to learn how this efficiency is possible.
@TonVerkleijT3
@TonVerkleijT3 11 ай бұрын
The only disadvantage is the loud noise these propellors make.
@VTdarkangel
@VTdarkangel 10 ай бұрын
The sound isn't the only disadvantage. They're more mechanically complex as well, requiring extra gearing to tranfer power to the counter-rotating shaft. This requires more maintenance and creates more opportunities for failure.
@scottw1938
@scottw1938 6 ай бұрын
The video i watched before this one said that noise reduction was a benefit of contra rotating propellers, wtf??
@user-tn1vc1xz5d
@user-tn1vc1xz5d Жыл бұрын
Avro Shackleton 🥰🥰🥰
@FPVREVIEWS
@FPVREVIEWS 9 ай бұрын
All questions and no answers in this video
@ankursahu269
@ankursahu269 3 ай бұрын
Big investment of your this technology please sir please
@oldschoolpiston5454
@oldschoolpiston5454 Жыл бұрын
Opposite spinning propeller on both wings is best
@paulh7589
@paulh7589 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that what the P-38 did?
@heftosprod
@heftosprod Жыл бұрын
Till one stops
@marcdunord
@marcdunord Жыл бұрын
lazy non-treatment of the most favorable turbulence reduction and high-speed pressure pockets created by CRT. PLUS : you're unfair towards civilian turbo props. Nothing antiquated about them: the A400 flies at 780 km/hr cruise speed with extraordinary fuel economy (like tu-94 and tu-114). The turboprops' CRT noise problem can be solved with modern materials for passengers and modern noise-reducing helices. And your oh-so-modern jets are de facto being flown at 750-800 km/hr by airlines these days... to save fuel... So they are as slow! You can bet that tu-114 at 850km/hr uses less fuel than any jet and needs much less working hours for maintenance.
@ldkbudda4176
@ldkbudda4176 9 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@Oleg50600
@Oleg50600 Жыл бұрын
solution: Intermeshing-rotor
@mitchgingras3899
@mitchgingras3899 Жыл бұрын
Since everyone is using noise-cancelling earbuds, maybe its time is here again. Say what?
@carstensommer1315
@carstensommer1315 Жыл бұрын
NEVER BEEN A SECRECT
@manout-kidin8735
@manout-kidin8735 Жыл бұрын
Ever heared of Tu-95 🐻 ?
@airdad5383
@airdad5383 Жыл бұрын
They are too complex for commercial aircraft. I think the next step is the unducted fan on jet engines.
@J-Justice666
@J-Justice666 5 күн бұрын
"Prepare yourself as you listen to AI try to narrate something... Prepare yourself to hear long drawn out explanations of really simple things.
@georgecastiblanco2978
@georgecastiblanco2978 11 ай бұрын
Florecita rockera tu te lo buscaste
@mukbus5935
@mukbus5935 5 ай бұрын
coaxial
@2012562
@2012562 Жыл бұрын
The future of flight inside the atmosphere depends heavily on the plasma jet, and the plasma jet has a wonderful ratio of weight to the resulting force. With continued development, it will be suitable for flight inside the atmosphere and outside the atmosphere at speeds that are considered relatively limited, because in space we will need a speed many times the speed of light. There remains a topic. The energy required to operate these engines. It is possible that the energy of calcium apatite hydroxide crystals and cellulose crystals, when used correctly, meets this requirement.
@ankursahu269
@ankursahu269 3 ай бұрын
2 trillion dollar investment of your this technology please sir please
@RuelDomalaon-fy3hf
@RuelDomalaon-fy3hf 11 ай бұрын
I can power that , 10000v ac x2 , propeller again .
@chrisrosenkreuz23
@chrisrosenkreuz23 Жыл бұрын
I don't think they are syncing the propellers properly. A 1:1 ratio as pictured wouldn't be the most efficient. What would be the most efficient is Larmor frequency precession
@zvast
@zvast Жыл бұрын
Why don't you advise them directly?
@XB10001
@XB10001 Жыл бұрын
How many times are you going to repeat the SAME THING? 🙄 This video could have been 1 minute long in total.
@philchristmas4071
@philchristmas4071 Жыл бұрын
So it makes your plane loud and saves some fuel? Sometimes I think militaries do stupid $h!+ just to try and entice other militaries to invest in something stupid too.
@Umu_Eri
@Umu_Eri Жыл бұрын
You dont see the value in fuel saving?
@zvast
@zvast Жыл бұрын
He must be a rich Arab 😉@@Umu_Eri
@teicangigi559
@teicangigi559 Жыл бұрын
Face zgomot, dar un avion de mărimea lui Tu 95 nu mai contează zgomotul. Este vizibil radar de la sute de kilometri. Nu la fel se pune problema la elicopterul Ka 52 Black Shark. Conceptul de elici coaxiale fac inutilă elicea anti-cuplu din coadă, deci elicopterul nu mai depinde de vânt, și face virajele plate, fără a mai înclina fuselajul pe viraj, deci nu pierde cuplu-motor. În plus, soluția elicilor coaxiale mărește mult randamentul aeronavei, deci sarcină utilă mai mare și reduce consumul de combustibil.
@entropy_of_principles
@entropy_of_principles 10 ай бұрын
....merely complex and seriously did not add to much to the plane as a whole, the consumption rise, the gear must be more strength than usual one ( must turns two propelers with huge wind surface to cut off) ...and for what ? To add some plus when turn your plane or for short take off ? No, not worthing, otherwise any built a so concept.
@toneault7499
@toneault7499 3 ай бұрын
oh well here we go with another bad accounting of props and bad cartoons running backwards ... don't tell us we'll tell you.. thanks
@scottsuttan2123
@scottsuttan2123 11 ай бұрын
are western minds gonna amit that russia was right and have better tech the US 😂 fat chance american ego to big
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 8 ай бұрын
Old tech
@michaelan9688
@michaelan9688 3 ай бұрын
Nice AI script lmao
@konekillerking
@konekillerking Жыл бұрын
I think your not understanding what a supercharged engine is. Tu-95 is even an piston engine.
@TricksterJ97
@TricksterJ97 Жыл бұрын
The TU-95 is powered by four Kuznetsov NK-12 turboprop engines. They each produce about 15,000 shaft horsepower. That is why it is necessary to have an 8 bladed contra rotating propeller 18-20 feet in diameter (depending on the model) to translate the power to thrust.
@lawrencemontecristo2482
@lawrencemontecristo2482 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it doesn't make much sense to argue about this anymore. Not after the MIT toroidal propeller
@ปวริศรชัยวงษ์
@ปวริศรชัยวงษ์ Жыл бұрын
ดี..แต่ไม่เหนว่าแปลก..รอแผลบ.เดยวมีตามแน่ๆ
@paulcoverdale8312
@paulcoverdale8312 9 ай бұрын
Yes we have! The Chinese played with it. The Russians still use it on the bears. 😂😂😂😂🙏🙏🪬🪬💎💎💯💯🇬🇧🇬🇧
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