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[@ContraPoints]

Leave your concerns in the comments below #YesAllGamers

[@williamnelson792]

ok

[@yam1212]

ContraPoints give me time to watch it first geez :)

[@msb4838]

Oooh it's gonna be a juicy one!

[@MariaBustamante1101]

I'm concerned with the fact that u should have more suscribers

[@batenthusiast7515]

HI MOM

[@dylanchouinard6141]

After this video, whenever someone asks “is so-and-so dead?” I will respond “scholars remain divided”

[@zenithquasar9623]

I was dead!

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Phoenix Dawn scholars remain divided

[@cinderball1135]

"This week, police sources announced they are pursuing a new lead in the case of the serial murderer known as The Over-Literal Man who brutally hacked apart fifteen college professors in academic sites all across the country. The only lead they have had thus far is a note left by the killer reading Scholars Remain Divided".

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Cinderball I never thought someone making a joke about me being a mass murderer would make me laugh, but bravo!!

[@zenithquasar9623]

@@dylanchouinard6141 Hehehe

[@ktm2901]

Yoooo I free bled on the national mall today...not as like a political statement I just live in dc and forgot to pack tampons

[@IamMissPronounced]

Underappreciated comment

[@ndawn90]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mansamusa1743]

Kt M that's what happened to a friend of mine so I had to frantically run around asking for pads since she hated tampons

[@ThreeFortyThree]

@Ebony Panther "Kind of like white people in blackface..." This, right here, is what the root of your issue really is: Your core belief is that trans women are men disguising themselves as women, and are a hateful and undermining mockery of womanhood. I'm pointing this out for being the stark transphobia that it is.

[@NoCommonSense9]

@Ebony Panther look it's a joke, chill out

[@zeideerskine3462]

There definitely are pink brains and blue brains. Living people have pink brains and people who died of cyanide poisoning have blue brains.

[@marina6860]

lmao thank you for this

[@ramywiles]

@@FreeTheDonbas Bud, give it a fucking rest and go do something nice for yourself.

[@laurie7568]

@@FreeTheDonbas a cpervert? never heard of that one before

[@ThePotatoSapien]

This made me wheeze. Thank you.

[@HockadayMath]

Wild

[@GizmoBeam]

Natalie's "inner terf" looks like a Sailor Moon villain. I love it.

[@magicrainbowkitties1023]

Hey I mean Queen Beryl really did give off terfy vibes

[@levibee9451]

Idk I think she's giving Rita Repulsa from Power Rangers

[@mwells0017]

Or...Maleficent

[@NuiYabuko]

​@@mwells0017 That's who I was thinking about.

[@PhilosophyTube]

Yer Dad saw this and now he's tutting at BBC Good Morning cause they got Germaine Greer on again

[@kalanaherath3076]

Lol 😂

[@LeftyConspirator]

Literally the same day I first saw the Yer Dad character I went to visit my parents, and my dad did that precise same thing. I didn't know whether to roll my eyes or burst out in hysterical laughter.

[@lunardancer6047]

No one's better at waking up daddies than Contra.

[@HeyJudie]

Tut-tut-tut, BBC!

[@ThatOneGuy7550]

Can we expect Ian N. Drivel to return, Olly?????

[@Neville133]

>drinking straight from the teapot And thus, I've seen the peak of youtube.

[@AyushShenoy]

True culture tbh

[@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly]

Like it or not this is what peak preformance looks like

[@Neville133]

@@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly truth and based

[@SotamiesTrolli]

The subject made me feel nauseous but this part cracked me up

[@Neville133]

@@SotamiesTrolli why did it make you nauseous? Just curious. And yeah, contra really knows how to break tension with comedy.

[@ShearsOfAtropos]

"is Anita Bryant even dead? *checks notes* Scholars remain divided." is one of my favourite Contra jokes

[@gabrielalmanza9433]

Ik who Anita is but I didnot quite catch the joke, can you explain plsss?

[@CinnamonCheesecake]

Gabriel Almanza When someone says that people are divided on an issue it means that there is some disagreement or debate. The idea of debating whether someone is dead or not is funny because it’s just silly; there’s an obvious answer. Hope that cleared it up!

[@luciacardosoveloso9458]

@@gabrielalmanza9433 I also believe it has to do with the fact that after she started her "war" against lgbtq people she lost her popularity so fast, it was as though she died. So although she is still alive to this day, she hasn't really been around since the '70s, explaining why some people would maybe assume she is dead (metaphorically at least)

[@gabrielalmanza9433]

CinnamonCheesecake thk yu

[@gabrielalmanza9433]

Lúcia Veloso thx

[@star3catcherSEQUEL]

The quote at the beginning makes me so sad. Imagine reading someone's book and being so thrilled to meet them, gushing about what an inspiration they've been, how they've changed your life... and then you pick up a copy of their next book and read... that. :(

[@sandworm9528]

You wouldn't say the same thing if a black rights activist told a white fan that the book wasn't for them. Could've been more polite but the point she was making is the same. Not saying she's right, but that's what she was saying

[@m3rify]

@@sandworm9528 It's not relatable in any way.

[@m3rify]

sameeeee I thought about it just after reading it

[@sandworm9528]

@@m3rify maybe you're not comfortable with the analogy, but it is the same. Race and gender are both social constructs, and people have both gender identity and racial identity

[@theangryholmesian4556]

@@sandworm9528 Yeah I don't think they'd then call a human being an 'it' mate.

[@Pebphiz]

Hey, real talk? She could make a killing as a costume designer. Every outfit and character is _iconic._

[@Pebphiz]

@@Irgendwelche5 Silence, clown.

[@Irgendwelche5]

@@Pebphiz ?

[@carlslabs5368]

@@Irgendwelche5 found the cwm

[@Irgendwelche5]

@@carlslabs5368 cwm? Is that your master?

[@owenb3962]

@Lyn K did you not watch the video?

[@bri754]

absolutely shook to the core upon finding out there are people behind the camera

[@whywhy8324]

S H O O K E T H

[@hamishmacdonald8835]

I know honey, it was hard for all of us

[@114Lazy]

Theryn was just visiting Nat during the filming. She normally does the filming by herself.

[@angryhobo212]

SandsJ Thank you for that, for some reason her having a crew just doesn't sit right with me, I guess it just makes it feel less personal Sorry Natalie, you have to keep doing all the work by yourself :)

[@LadyMercutia]

I am SAYING

[@claireisabella7898]

every time she lets loose a real laugh i gain 5 years on my life

[@cottage-core_]

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[@skylinesandturnstiles9595]

same

[@pressedrose1]

I know it's adorable it makes my heart melt Natalie is amazing

[@Hopppp]

same it's so cute I love her

[@reneebear3641]

teeth bitch My girlfriend’s name is also Natalie & both make me super happy.

[@shepherdaaron9683]

On the topic of trans women NOT being socialized like other boys- you are very correct, and it goes even further. I’m a gay cis man with two straight brothers. I have very little in common with them as far as we were socialized. They had a much more typical little boy and teenage social experience, and I was socialized to be alone because my male peers didn’t like me for being feminine in some ways, for being gay, and eventually, after years of social rejection, being closed off and defensive. I actually was a little boy and teenager and a man, totally cis, and my socialization was not at all typical of most men, and male privilege hasn’t really impacted me until college. For gender critical people to assume that the real phenomenon of an ideal, privileged male socialization is just the default upbringing for trans women is ludicrous, because even as children, anything seen as different is attacked or ignored by most boys. I wasn’t socialized like a girl, but I wasn’t socialized like a boy either. Edit: Not really cis lol but I thought so at the time lmao

[@FreeTheDonbas]

According to transgenderism, you're not a man, you're a straight woman.

[@Iamhere829]

💯 agreed...To Me, (a cis het woman) it infact feels kind of misandrist that Radfems assume men don't feel any trauma while growing up .They do....I live in a semi conservative country.. Where people are so misogynistic, they used to support sex selective births against females... And I have always found that I have more in common with lgbt+ people and feminine men more than Rad fems...if anyone in society is more at risk of getting beaten up than women, it's fem men.. Because in case of women they atleast consider that women are 'weak' hence off limits...But a man, they think is a fair game..As a result male DV survivors are ignored..even more when the perp is a woman..

[@artist91fb]

true, but also the main argument erases the experiences of young trans girls being socialized as girls. it is convenient for people to think that such identities simply don't exist. but they do. and the reality is that these young people will never experience male privilege at all. so, it really tanks their own argument as they attach "male privilege" with the idea that trans women start their transition in adulthood, when is in fact not always the case. and in a society that affirms trans identities, it would almost never be the case. alas...

[@samyes1726]

Because for them it's not about an accurate description of the differences in male socialization, it's stolen valor. They don't care about the nuances of how gender expectations impact people who aren't cis women because to them there are no nuances. It's comfortable for them psychologically to believe the world is less complicated than it actually is

[@Amira_Phoenix]

A lot of LGBT people would love some healthy socialization, but they just don't get any. Whose fault is that, I wonder

[@budakiarcher]

Even besides the political points, the visual aesthetic of your videos is always at least two cuts above the average KZbinr. Just wanted to commend you on your videography skills because I don't know how often it gets brought up among the wave of political talk.

[@kristateraberry7919]

Even a year ago before it was as high-budget you could see how much effort was put in. It's really cool to see both Natalie and the channel flourish!

[@tammyhall2530]

Its piccolo

[@duanedi]

"Excuse my beauty" is iconic. Ugh. RIP Stephanie Yellowhair, your spirit is not forgotten. Your acknowledgement of her was so poignant and made me tear up a bit. Great video.

[@TriggerHappy923]

I know I got teary eyed and wondered if her heart survived such abuse. This is so sad to hear.

[@NataliePierson1]

So did I.

[@r.h.f.6073]

right! i'm tearing up right now, first out of sadness for her mistreatment and then out of appreciation for her response.

[@jemangedessaucisses206]

I like tans on my legs but not on my face!

[@margolett7267]

al gonzález she doesn’t deserve death or abuse regardless of whether or not you want to fuck her. But I get it, being such a smooth brained idiot must be hard for you, I don’t blame you for malding.

[@lavenderscare4995]

Contra has always created the inspirations of my aesthetic, and I'm so glad I can add "drinking hard liquor out of porcelain" to that list

[@bryntendo]

Drink out of a coffee mug or teapot and no one will question why you're getting drunk at 8am coz they'll just think you're a responsible functioning adult who really loves coffee/tea! *_LIFEHACK!_*

[@tiredcatman7381]

@@bryntendo once a friend bought wine to a party, me and my other friends drank it from mugs. The guy was really confused when he saw that the wine disappeared if no one was seen drinking it (??

[@bryntendo]

Camila Lmao, it didn't even occur to him that people are able to drink wine out of something other than a wine glass? Bahaha, that would've been hilarious. I used to live with a friend who was notorious for always breaking glasses at parties, so we didn't have any wine glasses or nice glassware after a while and everyone had to drink out of coffee mugs, empty jars, plastic keep cups, or straight from the bottle - All our photos from parties during that time look so ridiculous, all these obviously drunk 19yr olds clinking their coffee mugs together during a house party at night 😂

[@krixkhaos]

Yep, I've decided I'm going to start drinking my absinthe out of my fancy teacups.

[@bryntendo]

Kris Keall I bought a bottle of Hendricks gin that actually came with a nifty little teacup and saucer. The gin is loooooong gone, hahaha, but I still have the cup and saucer, they're just so stylized and quaint. Never actually drank the gin out of it though, it's a very small teacup that wouldn't even hold the amount of gin I usually put in my drink let alone any mixer, ice, or garnish lol. Still, the gin came with a proper china cup and saucer, so I have to assume they wanted consumers to drink out of teacups/coffee mugs right? 😂

[@breathingdinosaur8049]

If terf is a slur, why don’t I hear it the CoD chat?

[@badideajenkins6385]

facts!

[@justalan7844]

"Throwing glitter spaghetti against the wall and hoping for some glimmer of femininity" is one of the best written lines of this episode.

[@Corbeaux08]

Alan Tyson there are so many that it’s hard to pick just one, but this one DOES fall among the top candidates

[@nathanclark2424]

Kinda like the makeup shotgun homer made.

[@jodyfinley3352]

Alan Tyson you get the same effect with glitter in your 💩

[@ChonosTack]

As a translater, this line was the hardest to translate lol

[@AValveFanboy]

Our dark mother has blessed us once again Ring the church bells and sacrifice your children in gratitude

[@ucitymetalhead]

I only have potential children will that do?

[@brotlowskyrgseg1018]

Sorry, but I'll pass on the demonic rituals and human sacrifices. I'm just here for the degeneracy.

[@lauratatum509]

I thought dark mother was Anita?

[@travelerfinder7840]

Consider my kids dead

[@WILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLU]

Dab for solidarity

[@marshmallowbaby6473]

Trans women are not effected by abortion rights the same way I am, but they were still there marching with us at abortion rallies despite being treated horribly by “pro-lifers” and pro choice people alike

[@misspoppyseed3909]

Roe v Wade (at least in America) also protects the right to privacy- which includes access to gender affirming healthcare.

[@apollofateh324]

What it really means to be ally 🙌

[@FreeTheDonbas]

"being treated horribly" = being treated like men appropriating womanhood.

[@theangryholmesian4556]

​@@FreeTheDonbas I'm not sure how trans women are appropriating womanhood since they're ya know women. You must be confused.

[@FreeTheDonbas]

@@theangryholmesian4556 Since they're male, then no, they're not women. Do you call your dad "trans-mom"? No? Transphobe.

[@mrdisco99]

Someone very close to me recently came out as trans. You've answered many questions I didn't even know I had. Thank you.

[@ellagage1256]

Awe this is wholesome

Yup, that's cultural marxism for you.

[@butterfreedom5357]

Earl Minime Go Go Marx >w

[@maiidegeese5052]

It was March 30th of last year that Stephanie Yellowhair (Navajo) passed away. "Excuse my beauty", RIP

[@MateusAntonioBittencourt]

Pardon a possibly bad taste statement. But Stephanie had HUGE steels balls. "Excuse my beauty". It brought tear to my eyes.

[@philippbobkaufmann4004]

Let's all pour a drink for Stephanie Yellowhair, who died aged 41 about a year ago.

[@Farscryer0]

www.vice.com/en_us/article/3kj5bw/the-death-of-stephanie-yellowhair-and-the-resilience-of-the-queer-spirit-excuse-my-beauty

[@Nathanramires]

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[@definitiveentertainment1658]

Philipp Bob Kaufmann Not to be rude, but I don’t know why anyone should look up to her. She definitely knew the struggle, and dropped a good one-liner, but that’s about it.

[@AustinCampion]

Definitive Entertainment what else are you looking for

[@Technodreamer]

That's too goddamn young.

[@deyedrah]

Hearing people gatekeeping womanhood behind “having experienced catcalling” is so weird and kind of gross to me. Obviously, it’s a shared trauma for a lot of women, and should be part of a discussion about misogyny and gender. But that isn’t and shouldn’t be a defining trait of being a woman! I am a cis woman and I didn’t experience catcalling until I was around 22. Does that mean I wasn’t a woman before that? Personally, I can’t say I usually “feel” like a woman in the first place. I just feel like me. And I wish people were more okay with just allowing people to feel like themselves.

[@eibecher]

i really just wanna beat the crap out of catcallers

[@TheMbmdcrew]

I've never experienced catcalling in my life. I haven't even experienced sexism from any men in my life- and this is coming from someone who's spent her whole life playing video games and talking to (mostly male) gamers. When TERFS say that experiencing catcalling and sexism from men is "part of the female experience", it just makes me feel survivor's guilt.

[@nuggetsboi5558]

Due to the candidness with which you discuss your own struggles with self-loathing and transphobia, and how you fight with this everyday, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say we appreciate the bloopers and the laughter, because it means a lot to us to see you happy Contra. This video is excellent, and you are doing a wonderful service. Keep smiling!

[@yarweiss]

Candor

[@meanjeanmcqueen6171]

I couldn't have said it better!

[@nuggetsboi5558]

@@yarweissThanks, I thought candidness didn't quite sound right.

[@Kestra84]

Your point starting at about 9:20 regarding femininity, womanhood, gender-non-conformity, and the question about why feminists don't leave comments on Kardashian pictures regarding enforcing gendered norms by dressing fancy finally clarified a prejudice I've been struggling with for a while. As you said, I was/am one of those non-gender-conforming-cis-women who kind of side-eye the High Femme aesthetic many trans women adopt. I've struggled with this because having the "freedom" and courage to craft my own gender expression rather than conforming to feminine expectations has been a major part of my process of maturing and defining myself as a woman in our society. My girlhood, and especially my adolescence, was in many ways defined by defying those stereotypes and defending my clothing choices and (lack of) make-up and hair styles, mostly against other women and girls, while still identifying as a straight, cis woman rather than a lesbian. I was repeatedly, falsely, clocked as a lesbian in high school and college, and even accused of having a beard boyfriend, which made me very angry on my own behalf and on behalf of actual lesbians. It also made me reluctant to come out as bi for fear I'd be "confirming" everyone's "suspicions" about how I wasn't "really a woman", or not the right kind of woman, i.e. a straight woman. So I found it a bit off-putting to see my gender seemingly distilled into very shallow signifiers like fancy hair, nails, and makeup, which have been used by the patriarchal society to dismiss women as being "too frivolous" and "too superficial" while simultaneously demanding that women dress well and put heavy emphasis on how our appearance defines, or is at least heavily influences, our worth as humans. (And also, I realized an embarrassingly few years ago that identifying expertise in fashion, make-up, and hair styling as "shallow" pursuits, or indicating superficiality on the part of people who excel at these skills, is also a symptom of our cultural misogyny, dismissing these disciplines as somehow more venal or disposable than other art, because their main devotees are women and gay men.) Your explanation of why many trans women choose High Femme looks to make it crystal-clear what gender they are presenting as makes perfect sense. But the Kardashian example really clarified that I'd been staring "downstream" at people who were negatively affected by societal misogyny and transphobia, rather than looking "upstream" at the cultural messages and gatekeeping used to keep women obsessed with presenting as "proper" women, forcing all of us, cis, trans, straight, lesbian, bi, into uncomfortable roles that don't fit the people we really want to be. Thanks so much for this video.

[@ranasenformol246]

This is the best comment ever. I too struggled with the same issues about femininity growing up. I've had to put up with everyone around me telling me that I should be more feminine, even one of my male gay friends once told me that I should wear more make up and a different style of clothes (more feminine of course), and I was like 'dude, would you like it if I went around telling you to be more masculine?'. It's like if people don't understand that being feminine is not all there is to being a woman. So, I also assumed that these ultra feminine attitudes that transwomen have were just another way to reinforce gender stereotypes. Now that Natalie explains it further it makes a lot of sense why transwomen act like that. This video was very enlightening. Thank you very much.

[@wxedsanddokx]

Yes, this comment yas

[@kelly-annmaddox]

I love this comment. 💗👌

[@Xeridanus]

Way to go Kestra and Sofia. :)

[@BT859]

Very well said. I think we should remember that in the struggle for progress all marginalized people are our natural allies because even though they may experience oppression differently, they learn just by living their lives every day that they live in a society that is fundamentally not designed for them. That it was built to benefit someone else and put them on top. The bullshit of our world becomes felt and known just through daily experiences.

[@shikamarurules12]

Your “x x-tra biological” joke didn’t get enough credit but i c u Nat

[@AryaBeltaine]

OH u made me just get it oops

[@katherinemorelle7115]

I didn’t get it until now. And I’ve watched this through four times. I feel very silly and unobservant.

[@caitlinhiggins5122]

pK ? Please help an uninformed person out 🙂

[@AryaBeltaine]

@@caitlinhiggins5122 she's making a joke about biology, as afab (assigned female at birth) people have XX chromosomes; so transphobes often make the argument that trans women aren't 'real' women because they don't have XX chromosomes (which nat has debunked in previous videos). she's just poking fun ahaha

[@theDENIMMAN]

I feel like somewhere along the line recently Natalie's thought process has been "I paid for this gong, Im damn well using it"

[@scouttyra]

@C caymer and how does this pertain to OPs comment?

[@Luinta]

@Keebs I've been reporting each one I find as I scroll through hte comments.

[@theDENIMMAN]

@@copperfoil8373 "I was gifted this gong, I am going to damn well use it"

[@ryanthomas9306]

@C caymer no its not

[@Tb40556]

Natalie’s Videos could legit be a Netflix series. LOVE THE PRODUCTION GIRL

[@Iluvgod223344]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 quit being sad and bothered.

[@suzbone]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 is finally talking about the mouth feel.

[@frwful]

Netflix needs to drop those cheques

[@dallasshumaker6148]

I’d watch it and suggest it to others. Then again, I already do that on its current platform

[@cozmost]

suzbone FINALLY SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE MOUTH FEEL!!

[@headoverheels88]

"Excuse my beauty" This has been a staple in LGBTQ parlance for a while, and had no idea that it came from a trans woman in the face of oppression. I'm always shocked by how dark our history is.

[@IMatchoNation]

I went and watched the clip, and it's even more badass and depressing in its full context.

[@mattsmith3750]

I'm currently in the process of educating myself on trans issues and wider LGBTQ+ culture to support a friend who is currently transitioning and to be honest it's shocking how true this is. So much of the humour I have come across in the LGBTQ+ community is rooted in really dark stuff. I know a lot of great comedy historically was created by marginalised and oppressed groups but the context of "excuse my beauty" is honestly so upsetting, and yet there's something so powerful about that moment of defiance that I can totally understand why its become a commonly used phrase.

[@akebjornblad9478]

Excuse my beauty is the prequel to "Fuck my drag, right?"

[@saradanhoff6539]

@@algonzalez6853 How is transgenderism degenerate? I checked a dictionary and degenerate behavior is that which diminishes or deteriorates the individual mentally, physically, or morally. Yet I dont see people being diminished or decline in any of these aspects during a healthy transition, usually the opposite, and significantly so. I'm confused because I honestly can't understand why people are so angry about them they're calling them degenerate. The only behavior I see causing mental, physical or moral diminishment/deterioration arises from the ones calling transpeople degenerate. Am I missing something huge here? Or is this just one of those internet asshole things?

[@saradanhoff6539]

@@algonzalez6853 How? How and where has the physical, mental, or moral decline you describe been the fault of transgender behavior? (only the transgender behavior itself, other people's poor behavior in reaction is their own issue). I'm operating here as someone without your cultural indoctrination or mental conditioning on the subject so you need to make this clear to me. Because operating solely from empiricism and true-value ethics, the only irration assholes opposed to reality I'm seeing are the ones giving them shit.

[@courtneystewart8006]

Just cited your JK Rowling video in a master's program paper about gender dysphoria and the trans community. Always amazing content! Thanks for the reference!

[@FreeTheDonbas]

Then your paper is already out-dated. Starting this year, it's not called gender dysphoria, it's called gender incongruence.

[@korvynknightway]

*I never thought I'd ever see what a transgender Jesus in a gender neutral robe would look like.*

[@MoniBahaa]

Gorgeous, I think the word you're looking for is gorgeous.

[@qarsiseer]

Jesus was born from only Mary, making his chromosomes XX, Jesus was a transman confirmed.

[@CODMarioWarfare]

Charlotte Butcher Jesus was made from godly cum tho

[@tym7267]

XDD +1

[@shubhamchaudhary2170]

Actually, gender neutral robe *moment

[@Theroha]

The stereotype of the trans woman wearing her mom's clothes when a child not only harms trans women but also cis men. I'm cis and tried in my mom's clothes as a young child. It wasn't because I was trans. It was because gender exploration is part of how we come to understand our gender identity.

[@darkstar2874]

Me, I did it because I wanted to be taller and heels seemed the obvious solution.

[@samuelhamblin7535]

So how is it harmful to trans women if it's common for children to do? It's just a common shared experience

[@Theroha]

@@samuelhamblin7535 The commonality is why it's harmful. Not every child who tries on their opposite gender parent's clothes is trans. Not every trans child will try on their parent's clothes. Stereotypes are harmful in general. Not all Asians are good at math. Not all black people like watermelon and fried chicken. Small stereotypes like this feed the more harmful forms of discrimination like bathroom bills and Jim Crow voting suppression by othering our fellow human beings.

[@samuelhamblin7535]

@@Theroha I think you're overreacting. I don't think anyone said everyone who tries on their parent's clothes is trans

[@mekullag]

I wore my 1 yr. older sister’s old dresses (in public, too). My father got a little nervous but my mother just let me wear whatever I wanted. Was I showing *early signs of transsexualism* that needed to be *fought* before it took hold?! Nah, my older sister was simply my only idol and frame of reference, so I just imitated her. Reminds me of that anecdote ben shapiro told once about how he caught his young son wearing his wife’s shoes. He put a stop to that immediately and bought the kid a pair of cowboy boots instead. Quality parenting right there: Teaching his kid to fear the appearance of femininity is certain not to breed toxic masculinity.

[@maggie1400ave]

Me on Ellen: Ellen: So I heard you like the mouthfeel (Natalie comes out) Me: omg Ellen you didn't

[@camelopardalis84]

What is mouthfeel if you don't mind explaining?

[@younwah6408]

@@camelopardalis84 the feeling of a girl's feminine penis inside of the mouth..

[@AmyAberrant]

NO

[@dot620]

@@younwah6408 the feeling of every penis inside the mouth technically. Natalie posited that the mouthfeel was substantially different between feminine and masculine penises, appropriating the term from wine-tasting.

[@titanuranus3095]

@@camelopardalis84 It is not a penis only term, but it is very charming if you think it is. Actually anything you can fit your mouth around has mouthfeel. But as said, yes, mostly wine.

[@crispy2802]

Hi. Cis guy trying to learn so I can be a better friend to my trans buddy. I’ve had a lot of questions rattling around that I didn’t have a place to ask. This was really helpful.

[@CherryLipstick6x3]

Your buddy is lucky to have a friend like you ^^

[@athghost2256]

Its so weird that we can hear the other people in the room...when I imagine you making these videos, I imagine its just you ranting into the night all alone

[@adorsey8264]

Same! 😂

[@TheEmmaHouli]

Personally I blame the fake news media. "Look at these KZbinrs - living the American dream - going at it alone. Wanting money when all they are doing is speaking into a camera. Sure I could do that. Entitled millenials. I WANT MY NAPKINS BACK. So industrial"

[@killercaos123]

I always imagine there's a bottle of alcohol within arms length at all times. lol but that's just me.

[@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly]

Flashes back to the Ellis video on personal brand

[@tangledfish]

Gotta manufacture that authenticity.

[@xandertrejo]

Uh so I was told to leave a comment.

[@upcruss2852]

damn thought I was alone

[@mookinbabysealfurmittens]

Great job. 10/10

[@abraxis_602]

yo ikr

[@mutantfreak48]

Do replies count as leaving a comment?

[@sigurdfjeldhalvorsen1989]

I hope so

[@gillianfeeney2047]

every time natalie breaks at her own jokes she makes me laugh so hard and it makes my whole day

[@queenemma5823]

10 more years is added to my life every time she does, I love it!

[@alexanderguthrie6744]

Came here to say this. It's partly the lovely smile!

[@a.square8658]

@@alexanderguthrie6744 She's so pretty when she laughs

[@TurtleSquirrles]

You know, as a biological woman it sometimes hurts when other women insist that being a “woman” includes being sexually harassed or cat called. I’m not disparaging other peoples experiences, but that personally never happened to me. So when everyone goes around insisting that you need that experience in order to be a “real woman” it makes me feel like I need to be sexually harassed or assaulted in order to claim womanhood

[@megauser8512]

which is sad!

[@GoddoDoggo]

I don't think you NEED that experience to be a "real woman," but a vast majority of women had that experience even as children. Like 9 out of 10 who you'd ask. So it's not a necessity to be a "real woman," but it is a shared experience of womanhood, kind of like a cultural experience, or shared trauma, and does form a sort of identity.

[@r00tan16]

i always found this weird too. as a trans man, im always told im "actually a woman" because i have the "female experience", yet when i ask what they mean by this so-called "universal womanly experience", a solid chunk of it i cannot relate to at all lmao. i guess im not "actually a woman" after all

[@lilithwills812]

It IS weird. I'm a cis woman (ish?) and my experience with gender is like 90% the fact that there's a tiny person inside my brain and she's doing a twirl to make her skirt flare out. I find it odd that, when I define my gender identity along the lines of positive experience it's cute (if occasionally seen as naive), but when a trans person does it it's necessarily dysfunctional. I don't know if this makes sense, but yeah.

[@kirstenh5475]

I agree. I think the numbers are exaggerated. I am the 3rd of 3 sisters, and one of us was raped as a child. My other sister and I haven't had any catcalling or assault or anything traumatic like that. So, yes, trauma happens, but it isn't shared by all of us, and just like gender is a spectrum, so is traumatic experiences. Trauma happens quite often to boys, too, and is probably way under-counted for them. So, traumatic experiences, helplessness, sense of no control is a shared experience to most humans of every race and gender. I would like to stop being told I'm a VICTIM because I'm a WOMAN, or being a woman is automatically ANYTHING! In fact, after I had a baby, I felt like a GODDESS of super-natural power. And, rape/trauma is TOTALLY something people can get over and go on with their lives. Don't ever tell anyone they can't get over that. Or they won't get over it.

[@soaringtoast]

Natalie, this was wonderful, brilliant, and I want to thank you for making the video and addressing each of the points so thoughtfully. I always supported trans rights and full gender recognition but as an "old school" feminist harbored internal confusion that made me privately sympathetic to gender critical arguments. Seeing the discussion on Twitter made me too afraid to ask questions and wile I did the reading, it never seemed to click the way it did after watching your video. Thank you for the humor and assuming good faith intentions behind the questions (this especially). You've made me a smarter person, more understanding about hidden implications within certain arguments, and ultimately a much better ally.

[@davidj.thompson]

I'm male and I stayed. I'm glad because otherwise, I would have missed your "moon woman' transformation plus your intelligent and funny content.

[@mookinbabysealfurmittens]

Plus, now we know what these broads are yakkin' about when we ain't around. ;)

[@davidj.thompson]

@@mookinbabysealfurmittens Yep...kinda scary!

[@treatmereallyniceys8616]

Our queen has uploaded it is officially a good weekend

[@oyoyoyo7624]

😢I started to shed tears near the end. Speaking of transphobia’s rootedness in “disgust” was able to show me that I too, someone early in their trans journey, felt the same disgust. I’m so glad I watched this, it is brilliant & cathartic 💕💕💅🏾EXCUSE MY BEAUTY

[@oyoyoyo7624]

Thank you, Stephanie Yellowhair

[@Lana.blooming]

But where does that disgust originates from? 😢 Why do people feel that disgust? How do we fight against it?

[@ChocolateGiddy-Up]

Cutting wit, logic, production value, inclusivity, research, sincere introspection, and good old fashioned crude humor. I found your channel after watching a video poopooing you. Now, from top to bottom, pound for pound, I consider you the best KZbinr in the game.

[@transsexual_computer_faery]

welcome to the herd lol

[@lzmunch]

Who was it lol

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Phoenix Vanguard And bullshit Pomo demagoguery

[@markz2666]

@Stop the Philosophical Zombies "Be it feminine masculine or somewhere outside the gender binary, you should always wash your penis. Trans rights are human rights." -Jordan B. Peterson

[@joywolfe.]

I'm not a communist, I'm capital-critical

[@hannavignolo6454]

amazing

[@kralts4184]

Yay I gave the 666th like. Time to pointlessly celebrate myself for this occasion.

[@reneebear3641]

I’m not anti theistic, I’m religious-critical.

[@Marsyas01]

I'm not anti theistic, I just think God is a monster.

[@cirimpufka]

Omg. What's wrong with that?

[@KelciaMarie1]

I'm a cis woman, but I've always gravitated towards gender neutral presentation. In high school, because I didn't look feminine and had a bunch of traditionally masculine hobbies, a whole bunch of people would never refer to me by feminine pronouns, almost exclusively calling me "it." Not a good feeling. It's not just being misgendered, it's being dehumanized. Because I was an "it," I didn't count. The whole idea of calling someone "it" just makes my blood boil. And I'm cis, for fucks sake. I cant even imagine how much it hurts trans kids.

[@Jamie-kg8ig]

Yeah personally, being misgendered feels like I'm being stabbed. Sometimes it's actually enough to cause a panic attack in me.

[@maschaorsomething]

I think I can sort of relate to the "people seeing you as non-feminine" part. I'm also a cis woman (or rather trans in the closet) and even though I did my best to present as feminine as possible, it was my deep voice and maybe my face that made people make fun of me, asking me if I had a dick or if I was my friend's brother, etc. I am not sure if that is empowering or not. I was definitely hurt, because my act of presenting as a real, normal girl always failed. But ironically, that may give me the motivation to finally transition, haha. How deep my voice will go?

[@drakan4769]

I've misgendered people by mistake before, I was corrected and then I apologized, but using "it" is going further, it's not "I made a mistake because I thought you were something you aren't", it's "I'm intentionally doing this because I think you don't deserve to be referred to with terms for humans"

[@ZzraphMedia]

Why can't we just refer to each other by our given names? That way nobody could be misgendered... [correction: stupid idea because of deadnaming. maybe a universal pronoun that's not dehumanizing persons that identify as human beings]

[@misty6348]

CheshAr just leads to people dead-naming which can be even worse.

[@Name-ru3di]

I'll bite, I used to have a lot of trasphobic views that could be labeled as 'TERF', before I even knew what that was. There were two sources of it, insecurity, and traumatic experience towards the opposite gender. The insecurity stemmed from me being a gay woman who doesn't dress like a girl. Probably part of me felt like it was pushing against what people judged me for most of my life. I'm not proud of the views I held. It took longer than I'd like to admit to change.

[@FreeTheDonbas]

According to transgenderism, you're a boy.

[@lirian1053]

if you describe yourself as a "gay woman" who didn't dress "like a girl", maybe you weren't a radical feminist after all, - just a transphobic conservative.

[@threedeemelodies]

OH GOSH I NEVER CLICKED A BIOLOGICAL NOTIFICATION SO QUICKLY

[@doccrowley3367]

*clocked

[@frwful]

so i definitely saw this and thought clicked was cucked XD

[@freddychopin]

"NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A SAD TRAN" Oh Natalie, please keep singing.

[@hortamaroto]

Yes, she's great

[@ZijnShayatanica]

That still gets stuck in my head with some regularity. Ironically, less often now that I came out as trans???

[@michaelflattery2298]

Wait, hang on. I just realized this was released on the anniversary of Stephanie Yellowhair's passing. Oh my heart. I guess there's nothing to add except - say it with me - "Excuse my beauty".

[@brendanrouth3807]

trapd00rspider considering her situation it’s honestly a miracle she survived as long as she did

[@EyeLean5280]

Thanks for pointing that out.

[@vegmoto]

Not to be dramatic or anything.... but I would die for this woman.

[@shobo4482]

wouldnt we all

[@kryptomanik]

Fresh-faced Natalie in a gender-neutral robe with her hair down is what I imagine the leftist afterlife is like, and she's basically St. Peter

[@irishecker]

James Bella lol!

[@MrSeekerOfPeace]

The leftist after life is more like the USSR post ww2

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

I always imagined it as a very red street with those blocky but large and functional apartment buildings and everyone driving Trabants and Yugos.

[@HetLedie]

@@MrSeekerOfPeace for a self proclaimed "seeker of peace" you sure like to stir up shit

[@TulilaSalome]

Here's an old Soviet joke: who were the first communists? Adam and Eve, of course! Why? They had no house, no clothes and only one apple to share, yet they thought they lived in paradise...

[@evidencebasedclown4902]

I was shaving my biologically females legs to only check twitter and realize I had to stop for this

[@evidencebasedclown4902]

Calendula Requiem sorry beebz I had laser hair removal no need for that :/

[@computersocsci]

Can I just say, the way your veil lines up with your left eyebrow is so aesthetically pleasing.

[@caenieve]

I know right????

[@AllisonGhost]

I was watching it literally the whole time

[@KindredBrujah]

It was deeply satisfying.

[@amacuro]

Thank you for noticing, me too! It was almost distracting haha

[@deddin]

Fucking right

[@awesomezhizhka8560]

I'm a trans guy from Russia, and holy shit, we have so much terf. There is not a single community where they would not crawl through, often they purposefully seek out trans people and write nasty things to them just for fun, threaten to leak the address, cooperate with male misogynists with pleasure (and they don’t care that they should work against misogynists. for them where it is more important to inflict as much damage as possible on the oppressed group). They are just fascists. I am very grateful to you for covering this topic.

[@tula1433]

Horrible. Praying for your safety.

[@avril6922]

💜

[@L.Plastina]

❤

[@Iamhere829]

❤❤

[@georgeuferov1497]

Мужик, надеюсь с тобой все хорошо

[@D0GG_]

Nobody: TERF: D O S T T H O U B L E E D ? ! ?

[@YumLemmingKebabs]

TERF Snyder Batman... Uh.....

[@micheinnz]

@C caymer Well that's us told.

[@valentine9363]

@C caymer show hog

[@c-m9077]

Oh no, now I cant disassociate the BvS quote from TERFs in my mind. No, no, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

[@alex-qd6of]

@Thomas McGill not really

[@jacklinton4885]

I (white cis male gamer with less of a social life than is healthy - goddamn I'm lucky I didn't end up a full on incel) used to make a lot of those arguments you mentioned in the first 15 minutes of the video...I got past that before I found this channel, but I could never quite articulate why I stopped believing in those arguments - until now, and I'm absolutely amazed at how well you managed to phrase the counter-points to those arguments. I'm halfway through my second video of this channel as I write this and it already seems a bit life changing for me...

[@emiliovera5195]

I feel you man. Gamer communities need more of you

[@incelthirdworld9858]

cope

[@shaunbarrie2263]

Glad this is reaching you and helping broaden your views 👍🏻

[@ando5185]

Dude I feel you, I swear we could almost be the same person. I feel like quite a lot of us used to be shitheads at some point in our lives, and I also remember when for some reason I also just kinda dropped my problematic thoughts. Sure, sometimes one of those thoughts still rattles it’s way into my dumbass lizard brain, but it’s not about whether or not you have those thoughts, it’s about your ability to recognise that they are wrong and to ignore them. I guess all that I’m trying to say is: welcome to the club.

[@elodeep]

​@@ando5185 "it’s not about whether or not you have those thoughts, it’s about your ability to recognise that they are wrong and to ignore them" You resumed everything. Even the "most" feminist person can have sexist thoughts. Any trans person can have transphobic thoughts or behaviours. Being an inclusive feminist isn't _not being sexist_ or _not being transphobic,_ but being aware of our own sexist thoughts and behaviour, of others' ones, and to try to change things in the positive ways.

[@anniejellah1913]

I am constantly blown away by the sheer amount of thought, time and effort you put into the costumes, background, and lighting. They come together beautifully to portray a clear theme; to be the backdrop for your well researched and clearly articulated message. Bravo, Natalie. Bravo.

[@burningspoonful]

*not thought out but picked up from community college philosophy and a rudimentary misunderstanding of biology, enough to confused people whose hearts are accepting and won't hurt anyone's feelings. But im not afraid of hurting peoples feelings. contra is an ugly, sad man with too much perceived intellect snd no real substance, they just make accusatory statements while in drag costumes. who fucking cares?

[@refuseit]

@@burningspoonful Apparently, a lot of us.

[@riley8385]

@@burningspoonful That's an interesting take, have you considered dying mad about it?

[@stubbypepperroni2357]

@@burningspoonful Are you a troll? "Trans fascism". And really ironic saying nasty animal considering all of the misogynistic things you said previously.

[@burningspoonful]

@@stubbypepperroni2357 LOL okay, Contra will make at least 20 'I like the way dicks feel inside my mouth' jokes in EVERY video guaranteed while maintaining a false air of superiority and education (barf) and YOU will still act like there is any integrity in him to defend, hes a grown man who likes playing dress up, I suppose at least hes honest because he knows he 'used' to be a man and isnt flat out lying about being the same as a woman assigned her female identity at birth, but he is still WILDLY conceited just for the sake of having his own thoughts out there.

[@kapelski104]

"IT RATTLES MY CHROMOSOMES!" was such a hilarious line :D

[@RicardoPleasure]

i am natalie's insatiable lust for increasingly elaborate headdresses

[@danielgalan9579]

is this a chuck palahniuk's reference?

[@Nersius]

I like this Fight Club remake.

[@S.D.323]

@@danielgalan9579 sir the first rule of Project Mayhem is you do not ask questions

[@Jagdedge]

This video deeply offended me. As someone born and raised in Cincinnati, the unprompted attack on our chili has left me shattered and devastated.

[@wolf1066]

Any attack on chilli is richly deserved :P

[@ariegabrielg.zavala9429]

LMAOOOOOOOOOSISISIS

[@jodyfinley3352]

Tell me more about this Chile 🌶 🤔

[@jodyfinley3352]

BustyNuts chili*

[@jackmarketos90]

#CincinnatiChiliIsRealChili

[@evam6961]

I actually want to be more of a butch lesbian but i know ppl like me more this way, and a lot of my straight friends side eye butch lesbians and call them "men" and ugly etc so i think it's brave for any gender not comforting both cis and trans ppl to just exist, we should really stick together instead of hating each other, loved this video thank u for your hard work ❣

[@dykeonoclast]

Hey I'm a butch lesbian and I felt the same way a few years ago-- now I feel so happy and honestly lucky to be butch. You can start small. You'll start to feel more comfortable as you go, but it never feels easy. In fact, I think the experiences of cis women beginning butch are often really similar to trans women's experiences. I have more in common with my trans woman best friend than I do with cis straight women!! Trans and gender non-conforming solidarity is real and honestly helped me a lot. Good luck. I see you.

[@calebmcdonald2418]

Girl, go be mad butch and getchu some better friends

[@CC-jg1cp]

@@dykeonoclast Hey! I'm also a baby butch!! Thank you both, wish me luck psyching myself up to cut my hair short this year

[@drillosophy1012]

Do that shit. It’s great.

[@tarathoughts13]

tbh - when you look back at a lot of the older lgbtq history, a lot of the hatred for gays and lesbians (and trans peple oc) was also because they didn't fit gender roles. like to conservatives, if a woman can love another woman, then she is denying her role as a woman and acting like 'the man' in the relationship, denying gender roles, and then obviously gender non conformity plays into this as well, so it's just weird to see how now people say like 'being lesbian, gay, or bisexual has nothing to do with breaking down gender roles' when so much of the orgiinal movements revolved around breaking down gender roles.

[@minnieral]

I had never heard of Stephanie’s story before. What an amazingly strong and confident woman. “Excuse my beauty” so powerful! Another amazing video 🙂

[@gracekeeble4499]

Something that reminded me of this video is in Juno Dawson's book "What's the T?", where she says that, 'it's not transphobic to have questions, it is transphobic to have concerns', because concerns are usually built off of scepticism and negative presumptions. So I never give the time of day to people who have 'concerns' about my identity and how I choose to live my life, but anyone who has questions I am more than happy to talk to.

[@rhythmandblues_alibi]

"We're using cultural signifiers of femininity to prompt others to see us for what we are." I have never really understood why the hyper-feminine performative factor seems to be such a *thing* among trans women, when nails, makeup and heels don't *make* you a woman - but I think I finally get it. That makes a lot of sense! Especially when your safety often depends on "passing".

[@maysea8689]

💜

[@rockenrollern]

It's a lie. They are men with a sexual fetish.

[@glassoforangejuice6675]

Karl Stark WOOOOAAHH that’s crazy I was starting to think there’s no way you people existed

[@isidoreaerys8745]

Yes I’m very thankful that his video cleared up the same concern for me. As a gay man though I still hold have one complaint and that is that trans women don’t belong on grindr. Since Grindr positioned itself as an inclusive queer dating space the opposite has happened and with the explosion of trans women using the app a huge population of straight men has been attracted and the environment has become extremely hostile and no longer gay friendly. Just yesterday I messaged a guy and he responded mocking me and saying he thought my mustache was hideous. More and more we see profiles that demand bottoms be “fem, cd, hairless or trans” It’s causing the expectations of women to be transposed onto gay men and i don’t like it. If I search for Tops in my City, Las Vegas what few results there are diluted further by a number of people presenting as women, which I respect and support, however am not attracted to. What I always liked about being gay was the relaxed fluid nature in the way people express gender. And the inclusiveness. However these days the main gay dating space has been swallowed up by an arms race of hyper-feminine and hyper-masculine gender expressions.

[@whatelseison8970]

@@isidoreaerys8745 Wow, that's kind of fascinating although I get why you're not happy about it. I'm cis and straight.. whenever circumstances require boxes to be checked. (I like the term "heteroflexible" ha) I'm also chronically single and celibate so I'm pretty naive about these things. I never could have imagined such a thing could be happening. Maybe I find it fascinating due to maybe being a tiny bit of an autogynephile myself, although it's not like I'm about to run out, grab some fishnets, eyeshadow and sign up lol. I actually had heard of grinder though and for that to happen it must be waning in popularity by now. Don't lose hope, something better will come out soon probably. :)

[@AlexeiSebastian]

Who else can no longer read "burgeoning" without Natalie's voice?

[@cramerfloro5936]

🤚🏽

[@iworshipgaysandsatan6822]

I don’t think Natalie was voicing that part, I think it was theryn

[@professionalcatgirl8592]

@@iworshipgaysandsatan6822 the point still stands though haha

[@iworshipgaysandsatan6822]

@@professionalcatgirl8592 yeah it does. Idk why I corrected them there. Slightly redundant

[@GuiSmith]

@@iworshipgaysandsatan6822 I can only manage Natalie’s emulation of Theryn’s reading, so I guess I impersonate an impersonation of a read impersonating a bigot. That’s a lot of impersonation.

[@jasperbriarlight]

As a young trans man, I'm really grateful for your videos. They're informative and funny (not to mention your outfits and backdrops are astounding) and I've learned a lot from you. Thank you for being the trans icon and teacher I've been looking for for so long. Keep slayin' queen!

[@xenotiic8356]

Unrelated but your icon is really nice. Do you know who drew it/the source?

[@jasperbriarlight]

Xenotiic I’m afraid not, sorry! I found it on google. (I was actually planning on changing it soon since I don’t know the source hdjdndjsjfj)

[@jadee5126]

I'm not trans, but my God lady I with you. She's brilliant isn't she, not only as the creative goddess but she's a amazing teacher.

[@herrbeschwerde5051]

As a trans girl i just want to thank you for your amazing content and sheer badassery. Thank you for being a role model for trans people. They can be hard to come by.

[@man4437]

Not to be rude, but an alcoholic opiate addict who used to harass feminists with porn isn't my idea of a role model I mean, I am being rude to Contra, not to you

[@ronaldodimaano8641]

@@man4437 seethe more you dmbfk

[@herrbeschwerde5051]

@@man4437 yeah right and Daniel Radcliffe is an actual wizard. Learn to diffrenciate.

[@sandworm9528]

@@man4437 yeah laern to difrenciate, idiot

[@mushroomkaiyoti111]

But you’re not a girl … and neither is this man. Stop ✋ 😅 #twam

[@lukequinn9216]

"Caitlyn Jenner, whomst... well... just whomst," I CACKLED

[@aliebrubaker7473]

I transitioned socially a couple months after Caitlyn Jenner went public... 😐 ...So, yeah. This.

[@hoofarted]

Caitlyn Jenner is human trash 😂 unfortunate she is trans

[@ryanthomas9306]

@@hoofarted what's the difference between Jenner and CP? Just age

[@fenixleo0721]

Kim Kardashian Un I feel like you are the delusional one, my friend. Educate. Get outside. Breathe some air. And then stop commenting on videos weeks after they happen thinking that people won’t respond to your idiocy. I will. And guess what? Not stopping.

[@stevencleere4912]

@@ryanthomas9306 take it back.

[@FortuitousOwl]

On a totally unrelated note, your interior design taste is so amazing I’m so jealous of your sets. I want my house to look like that.

[@wes4439]

+

[@ypraisethesun4431]

Right how long does it take her to set all this up? And then have clothing changes and then she edits it together. It demands respect I couldnt do it.

[@ArtisticlyAlexis]

It's my crazy version of a Barbie dream house! Chintz and knick-knacks galore are either in your grandma's house or Natalie's house, so we need to bring it back to the normies!

[@jacobandrewart]

Yes, I loved the set.♡♡

[@TheWholeofHell]

I just had this weird moment of seeing this in my rec and thinking "Funny, I don't remember this vid" to being "OH SHIT Mom's dropped some new fire"....

[@no_peace]

Me too, exactly

[@elsiemares5367]

This video is excellent. As an unapologetic radical feminist who thinks feminism is about the safety and protection of women and girls, especially the most vulnerable among us including trans women, I have to spend a lot of time unpacking and challenging myself to not get wrapped up in bioessentialism. I honestly think a lot of "gender critical" feminists agree a lot more with trans feminists more than they know. Thanks for making this video!

[@FreeTheDonbas]

Straight, white men like Contra are not "vulnerable women", they are the most privileged demographic on the planet.

[@lirian1053]

I feel like they would agree even more if gender activists didn't demonize radical feminists, misrepresent it's points and send death and rape threats. Talk about girls' and womens' safety.

[@datfrump7861]

I'm a 16 year old trans girl, I'm not out to anyone but a few really close friends, mostly because I'm scared of how people and especially my parents would react, but I just want to say that your videos keep me from abandoning who I am and I'm so thankful that you can make me feel accepted and cheer me up even on some of my darkest days

[@miguelzavaleta1911]

16 is already a tough age as it is. I'm not one to suggest coming out or not, but I can suggest you seek out like-minded people -- especially if the circles you run in are more conservative-minded. Best of luck, friend.

[@11corvus11]

36 year old trans masc here and while we will undoubtedly have many different life experiences (and some in common) I want to say I support you and you are so valid. I also want you to know that people like me who didn't fully understand that we were trans until our 20s, 30s, or higher often admire people like you who are so wise and in touch with themselves during their youth. It's a really cruel world out there, but there are also a lot of great things about being trans and being yourself. And there are great Queer and Trans connections to be made. When shit gets hard, please hang in there and remember you are loved and cared for by our communities. Edited for typos

[@transsexual_computer_faery]

hang in there

[@transsexual_computer_faery]

@Akauali Art i was like "fuck this, i'm too old for transition, i don't even hate my body anyway" i would definitely recommend to think about it thoroughly.

[@silverandexact]

There's a lot of celebration around coming out (for good reason) but remember that there are definitely valid reasons for waiting to come out too. The fact that you're not giving up on who you are is enough.

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

My favorite thing about Natlaie's vids is that I learn a ton about subjects I was only passingly familiar with while laughing a lot. I wish all forms of education were this good.

[@MysticMuttering]

Same.

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

The laughing makes it stick

[@DJDocsVideos]

She truly has a gift.

[@skscharf]

This. I’m so out of my depth on so much of this. Bravo to Natalie and her colleagues for putting in the labour on these topics.

[@treacle913]

Troggie42 why is this pinned this comment sums all my feeling towards natalie i love this THIS

[@salokin3087]

When your so fabulous that Milo tries and fails to rip you off

[@salokin3087]

@Spyky_ ye

[@schopenhauerassplower4223]

Salokin Yeah what is this about?

[@TimothyCHenderson]

@Please Complete All Fields Apparently Milo is now doing different characters on his KZbin channel video's much like Natalie except significantly inferior in quality and execution... Considering he's someone Natalie identifies as an inadvertent "inspiration" for our new age of aesthetics, the student has surpassed the master. RIP Milo.

[@SRowntree]

Milo isn't gay. He pretends to be one for money.

[@MissAshley42]

That's a name I've not heard in a long time.

[@eileene.5870]

The uterus=woman not only screws over trans, non-binary, AND some people who are intersexed, it also makes those of us who have had hysterectomies feel even worse than losing a body part already has! Body parts do not make gender, our brains (and societal constructs) do!

[@marioluigi9599]

Okayyyy that cute. However, Uterus=woman

[@littlemissmaam1]

@@marioluigi9599 Okayyyy that’s cute However, Uterus≠woman

[@Kaylakaykay1997]

@@marioluigi9599 No it doesn't end of discussion

[@Livy.3]

@@marioluigi9599 so like if I have cancer and my uterus needs to be removed I'm not a woman anymore?

[@marioluigi9599]

@@Kaylakaykay1997 Yes it does. Because that's biology and men can't biologically get one. End of discussion

[@poofballoon]

"No one knows what it's like To be a Sad Tran" I'M WHEEZING

[@caseyhayes7510]

"trans women *do* bleed, but only when we cut ourselves" jesus christ natalie

[@peeparoni8634]

this shit cuts deeps

[@spookyrosev6467]

poofballoon TM Am I a terrible person for repeating that part on loop?!

[@Efreeti]

That Germaine Greer "grossed out" quote legit grossed ME out. How despicable can you be? To publicize your hatred towards someone so undeserving of hate like that.

[@juannaym8488]

It's just not okay to talk about a person like that who you just had nothing more but a cordial interaction with, no matter if it's about transsexuality, race, or if they prefer Squirtle over Charmander

[@g.s9943]

@@juannaym8488 wait people prefer charmander?

[@juannaym8488]

@Justine Y Yeah, I'll never get why tho tbh My ranking of the first gen starters would be Bulbasaur, then Squirtle and then Charmander

[@seignee]

@@juannaym8488 you sycophants will never appreciate charmander's beauty

[@Zernium]

Did Germaine Greer even ever get 100% confirmation that this woman was trans or "a man"? Some cis women are just very physically masculine, or have hormonal problems that cause them to have some male features.

[@brynm2701]

Okay but your TERF character's look is STUNNING

[@Lupuschooby254]

I actually want to see har in normal clothing

[@misterfox9494]

Bryn M Yeah, because we all know feminists like to dress up like drag queens and show off their cleavage. Clearly he is demonstrating he is a man who believes that being a woman equates to nothing more than sexist stereotypes.

[@magolor7856]

I’m detecting a triggered TERF!

[@CarlEusebius]

@@misterfox9494 Did you, like, watch the video?

[@ilsedewot6739]

@@misterfox9494 it's funny because you're the exact type of person *she* debunks in the video. Which you'd have known if only you had watched it.

[@levibee9451]

This came out right around when i began my transition and ever since, every time i have a bad day "no one knows what it's like to be the sad tran" plays in my head lmao.

[@fs9096]

"The National Mall is not going to bleed on itself!" Well that seems presumptuous. You don't know the National Mall, nor its labyrinthine innards nourished by rich, dark life force. Sometimes, when the moon is high and the screeching of avian hordes thickens the air its blood must be let to ensure the harvest will not disappoint.

[@AnkhAnanku]

Franky Skaggs i don’t remember that being in the constitution. They must keep it in the back room with the other “forbidden amendments”

[@johnbenton5102]

just a straight white guy here checking in. Looking to gain information on all cultures and experiences. Thanks for the input, i'd love to have a conversation but I feel like the youtube comments aren't really the place for that. So i'll just say thanks for the videos. I like that you don't compromise your points to fit into small video formats. These are complicated topics that need complicated answers. Thanks for doing what is deserved and doing it in an entertaining way.

[@jenathent4840]

I find asking condensed questions in he KZbin comment section yield the best results.

[@Observer31]

I've been reading the comment stream here and it's *way* better than the average youtube comment page. Lots of positivity and honesty.

[@sanityisrelative]

@@Observer31 I feel this is one of the better pockets of the KZbin comments section.

[@TheChocoXCheese]

Honestly, if you have questions about the trans experience, you should just post them in the comments. There are a lot of trans people around who can answer based on their own experiences. Just don't intentionally be a dick about it, and you should get results.

[@kalebh3419]

@Anti-Federalist 1776 gee, i wonder if anyone else can spot the troll here LOL

[@cactusc9519]

"lost lesbian sisters" yeah, i must be pretty lost considering i'm wandering towards a coffee shop to see about meeting up with a man. XD

[@HimeLowii]

They'll call you a "GNC straight woman" (yeah, I saw many radfems call trans gay man that)

[@IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS]

@Juliana Silva Seriously, did you not watch the video or read the comment? Cactus is a transman who is meeting a man for a date. The video refers to TERFs, particularly lesbians, who refer to trans men as "lost lesbian sisters." Or was that sarcasm on your part? (Hard to tell.)

[@spandanganguli6903]

That's Hella gay fam. Literally in this case.

[@QuikVidGuy]

@@IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS also gold star lesbianism is terf bullshit, bi lesbians have always existed and been included in lesbians

[@stevencleere4912]

@Juliana Silva thats literally the point being made, that trans men arent "lost lesbian sisters"

[@SwordmaidenGwen]

I have always said that comparing suffering is ridiculous, everyone's personal suffering is the greatest suffering on Earth because it's theirs. We should find people who understand our personal suffering and empathise with us and then support each other rather than compete for sympathy. So I absolutely agree with this video and I think you explained your perspective clearly and concisely, bravo! Also, I'm so grateful for what you said about cis women periods, I felt so seen and understood, thank you. I suffer from PMDD really bad, I can't hold a regular job because for two weeks every month I can't even walk without tripping on everything and walking face-first into walls because I completely lose depth perception (there are handrails all over my house so I don't injure myself) my energy level drops so low that I can't even take a shower without panting and needing to lie down for an hour after, plus my memory and cognitive capability drops to the level of a goldfish. So many women have looked down on me because they don't believe periods can possibly be so debilitating, just because theirs isn't, and of course the people who don't even menstruate as well. It's awful and I can't argue with them because yeah, I'm useless for half my life. And you don't need to tell me how useless I am, I already know and cry about it for two weeks every month.

[@quandaredevil]

“everyone’s personal suffering is the greatest suffering on Earth because it’s theirs” is an absolutely amazing quote. also, as someone with severe chronic illness and a physical disability I can really relate to the feeling of being completely useless and how emotionally painful it is.

[@WinningSidekick]

PMDD sucks SO bad and barely anyone seems to know what it is! It's incredibly frustrating.

[@alfienice3636]

"Is Anita Bryant even dead?... Scholars remain divided." Lmao XD

[@FabricFool]

I love you, Natalie. I’m a shallow post-boomer, old as the Flintstones, so much of this gender fluidity is news to me. I desperately want to understand, to advocate, and be utterly converted. You have made great strides toward this-in my own stupid heart. God you’re beautiful. Keep me thinking. Keep me questioning what I was raised with. I learned and believe in gender equality, and in this 21st century, so should we all. Keep talking, Natalie. Keep converting me. PS your costuming is amazing. And so are you. Thank you for posting. I’ve been looking for something from you for weeks. Stay gorgeous as you are.

[@rafaeltota]

I've been searching for the words, but I'll just second this. She's made me a better man.

[@shayneoneill1506]

I think all of us where never had to go through the trans experience would find all of this new. But its exciting and interesting, and its great we have a teacher like Natalie with the patience to walk us through it.

[@TheChocoXCheese]

I want to thumbs up, but you're at the sex number. So instead, I'll give you my support through a comment.

[@NotTheFamousOne]

"Excuse my beauty, TERF." One of the most powerful things I've heard in a long time.

[@Mefistofy]

With perfect comical timing!

[@panzerfaust1998]

Women don't have Y chromosomes...

[@classypotato9255]

@@panzerfaust1998 K

[@germanbuda5834]

@@panzerfaust1998yes they have..

[@munii3216]

@@panzerfaust1998 trans and intersex women have left the chat lol

[@AmeliaMastervally]

My brain is pink because I like hello kitty and the colour pink. My girlfriends brain is blue because she swam a lot as a child and the chlorine bleached it

[@SoVidushi]

Couple goals.

[@benburke3015]

Love how JK Rowling has bought us all together in this dark time.

[@arandomcomment1092]

That is the only good thing she has done in her lifetime. Hastune Miku created Harry Potter.

[@gordonmacgregor7668]

lol fuck off, oh yayyy JK Rowling has brought us together with HATE wooo

[@CJMGalaxy]

@Miu most of the research she cited in her paper is debunked or skewed, none of it is verified. And even when she wasn't citing inaccurate studies she was "raising concerns" about things that are blatantly not a problem (trans women in women's bathrooms, for instance - attacking women in bathrooms is already illegal, and there have been no cases of men pretending to be trans women attacking women in bathrooms), or stating facts without actually looking into the context around them (she said that the number of trans men seeking healthcare related to transition had increased dramatically, but she fails to note that it coincided with the opening of gender clinics - people didn't seek the healthcare because there was no healthcare available, but she doesn't say that). She's presenting falsehoods under truths.

[@KylerQuinn]

My mom still supports her, RIP

[@rickardkaufman3988]

@@CJMGalaxy A chap by the name of Andrew James Carter Esq. debunked every single point made by by Joanne K. Rowling. The points are on his twitter page. Here is the link: mobile.twitter.com/Carter_AndrewJ/status/1270787941275762689

[@KrishnaWashburn]

The clip of Stephanie Yellowhair made me burst into tears. That's incredible strength and courage.

[@AuntAgatha0fullmoon]

KrishnaWashburn same. I actually started crying when Contra started talking about transphobia and the lizard brain, and this is the third time I’m watching the video.

[@LucianCorrvinus]

Miss Yellow Hair is neither gone nor forgotten she's simply gone on to the land of the ancestors and for that I am thankful.

[@markchapman6800]

Me: "Oh, I've watched this one before." Me 34 minutes later: "and I've just watched it again!"

[@lizferreira7617]

I've watched most of contrapoints' videos twice by now 😂

[@vinceknox4425]

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve binged her videos. I learn more every time.

[@FreeTheDonbas]

This is a cleverly disguised hate-video tbh, which is its worse offence, but in addition to that It's also full of false information, hypocrisy & it's randomly transphobic too (against NBs).

[@MeggieBolton13]

I make sure to watch it at least once a year, it's like shoring up your defences to the insidiousness of TERFs

[@FreeTheDonbas]

+Meggie Bolton It prepares you for nothing. Contrapoints' video may look glitzy but it failed on every front. 1. She failed to define womanhood. 2. She threw GNC NBs under the bus with her conflation of gender abolition with uniformity & lack of variety. 3. She added a throwaway line about the debunked pink & blue brains study - which again, is also transphobic against GNC NBs. This video is just another examples of a gender-conforming binary trans-woman who preaches about the horrors of transphobia all day, while hypocritically making transphobic jabs at gender non-conforming non-binary people. Feminists shouldn't be smeared & kicked out of their own movement for offending a bunch of transphobes. Contrapoints is a TERFFFFHHFF = transwoman excluding radical feminists from feminism for hurting her fragile feelings

[@christianj5950]

the focus on "male socialization" is funny to me because as a trans man who looked (to the world) like a cis woman until i was about 20, the "traumas of girlhood" that they treat as universal have never happened to me. i was a nerdy unpopular kid living in a small norwegian town. i dont think i was ever catcalled. i've also never been forced to wear a dress or keep my hair long when i didnt want to. my family and friends were never people who imposed harsh gender stereotypes on me or judgmental when i cut my hair short or anything like that. i was just was never someone who experienced these supposedly "universal" traumas of being seen as a girl. i was never made to do extra housework or "act ladylike." i've never experienced slut-shaming or sexualized comments about my appearance while i'm just going about my day. like, sure, i got a few "go make me a sandwich" jokes from nerdy male friends in middle school, but they were pretty obviously jokes, albeit annoying ones. also, around that point i already identified as a trans man internally and those comments just don't hit as hard when you don't see yourself as a woman. maybe it would have been more traumatizing if i saw womanhood as something key to my person, but i just never did. so... what are these supposedly universal traumas???

[@lulu4882]

i think a lot of TERFs (not gonna speculate on the proportion) went through abuse from men growing up, and maybe they project those experiences as being "universal", or try to universalize them to coat their transphobia in feminist optics. it's sad, there's a lot of pain and trauma underlying transphobia from TERFs and they develop morbid hateful obsessions over it. so that may be part of it at least; another part might be some TERFs wanting to claim the trauma of other women in order to craft a monolithic conception of "womanhood" which definitionally excludes transwomen.

[@Youkneecorn007]

This is so insightful to me, I'm a transwoman and I certainly resonate with your experience. Early on my childhood, my parents noticed that I'm not comforming to the typical "boy" as a kid. My expressions, manerrisms, my gestures and the way I speak, it all exsudes femininity. And because of that, I experience being cat called and get harrassed by other boys as a KID! I kept it to myself because I don't know how to tell it to my parents without them being confused. I fear that they wouldn't belive me, since they percieved me as their 'son', that's why it would be absurd for them that I would experience such harassment in other boys. (I'm not a girl for them, so it would be impossible or might even be funny for them to hear such things). It was hell for me and I have no one to talk to in those times. I believe, my experience as a kid made me hypervigilant and scared at men, even now that I am 20. Hence, you can't assume someone's childhood experiences based of their biological sex alone. Unfortunately, TERFs think that way and they often use it on their bigoted beliefs and transphobia.

[@SaoirseElezen]

Your experience sounds great. I have the stereotypical trauma here mentioned and hate my experience but like I still feel I am a woman. I hated period so much because my gynaecological issue, still feel I am a woman. I really feel some of TERFs are projecting their trauma. Like, i feel your gender only depends on what gender you identify with. I was also the nerdy unpopular gal haha yeah just to say this to add to the convo Edit: typo

[@WeiYinChan]

That’s because you are from Norway. I wish every other country would learn something from the Scandinavian countries. You can’t understand how jealous we are of you guys. I experienced my first serious criminal-level sexual harassment when I was 7. Luckily I was well prepared to handle it due to a school sex Ed class I had literally weeks before the incident, and immediately informed my parents, who dealt with it quickly. as a result I don’t have a lot of trauma from that. The school sex ed course that protected me was taught to boys AND girls. TERFs seem to think all girls experience sexual trauma and it’s a unique female experience but that’s just not true. And it’s not like I didn’t identify as a girl before that. Unlike what TERF said, trauma isn’t what made me women. And like you said, it’s not even universal. Girls in many other cultures would have had it 100 times worse than me. Are they more women than I am? I don’t get the obsession they have over trauma.

[@mushroomkaiyoti111]

You really are that internally misogynistic? You really are that ignorant to women as a sex class and our oppression? You are a woman. Coming from another trans man who doesn’t want to be reduced to a womb owner.

[@uchster9]

natalie resurrecting the 'sweaty' meme is everything.

[@animanya394]

When you started “abolish gender” segment, i was a little bit concerned but then you said that my utopian pipe dream is valid so thanks! it means a lot to me!

[@bitchimgayasfuck171]

mood

[@demilembias2527]

hell yeah

[@FresoVODs]

I've been an "abolish borders" utopianist for as long as I've been politically aware, only more recently come to the "abolish gender" one. I don't believe I'll see either come to fruition in my lifetime, but that doesn't mean we can’t lay the groundwork for it now and hopefully our descendants can one day see it happen! ❤️✊

[@yusefwoof]

Right?

[@Navarp]

The internet has really helped me identify as agender and helped normalize that attitude. When people talk to me, it is a sentiment that I try to reinforce.

[@alexfoley4744]

Every time natalie shouts out trans guys a year is added to my life. Thank u my queen

[@femboy_fatale69420]

I’m a trans man and I almost clicked off this “women only” video until I remembered that my genitals define who I am and everyone sees me as a walking vagina. Silly me! But in all seriousness I love your videos, Contrapoints. keep up the good work!

[@radiotomatosauce99]

that's a really good username

[@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036]

Yeah that is an awesome username

[@sonnentausnest]

Same 👋

[@lukaluukaa]

I don’t have any opinions on your username

[@threeofeight197]

I worked w a trans woman at my last job and she did more than any cis woman there when it came to fighting for a lactation room and other work place rights for women. She didn’t just limit it to women and fought for a lot of general work place rights. ❤. I think part of the problem is not enough ppl have ever even met a trans person and assume all kinds of BS. When I learned that my coworker was trans I was surprised and yet not. She was more feminine than I was so it made sense 100%, Of course she’s a woman. She’s exactly who she was meant to be and I can’t imagine her any other way.

[@zappawoman5183]

I'm a woman who doesn't menstruate. God bless the menopause!

[@sarahdun1785]

I want a menopause too please

[@taylormonroe8609]

Yes! A point the video didn't explictly state that I think bears mentioning: if someone says terms like "people who menstraute" reduce women just to a capacity to menstruate, then /that person/ is the one actually reducing women just to a capacity to menstruate. The very point of the term is that not all women menstruate and not all people who menstruate are women, and it pays to be precise about which group you mean.

[@justpettet3506]

old ass bitch

[@LeonieZurakowsky]

@redmotive So good luck with thinking you'll be fertile for ever! Of course young people aren't subject to aging, only old folks are! It's wonderful to stop having periods after 40 years of them. Perhaps you've not had one yet so you might not know this? Menopause (which only women experience) MEANS the end of the menstrual cycle and this is absolutely normal. (Trans claim they have menstrual cycles despite not having female reproductive systems!) This is a natural part of aging, just like after men turn 25 their androgen levels begin to decrease and they become less and less fertile as they age.

[@LeonieZurakowsky]

@Leah DijonLOL! Feminists are not saying you're no longer a woman. That's transactivists saying so. Some women and men are infertile. That does not mean their sex has changed. Feminists are saying that nothing you do to your body (or something that happens accidentally or due to disease) changes you from one sex to the other. Perhaps learn what feminism is about before making up wrong stuff about it. This is called the strawman fallacy.

[@Chipiliro613]

Confirmed. Natalie is the kind of woman who drinks straight from the teapot.

[@sambreuer831]

Steven Killeen want that tea piping hot

[@cat21860]

Me: TERFS: YOU ARE MY LOST LESBIAN SISTER POISONED BY THE PATRIARCHY!!1! Me: I like men, Sharon. TERFS: *Shocked pikachu face*

[@miojobelmont9450]

OH THIS IS THE BIGGEST OF MOODS terfs have no idea what to do with a gay/bi trans man

[@insertnamehere1867]

yeah I will never understand this argument when every study and statistic says that the majority of trans people are not heterosexual

[@elliottwilltry9293]

yo I was thinking that too

[@JC-jd1us]

When your trans gay

[@ariszjimenez8426]

@@miojobelmont9450 They know, they'll call you a yaoi fangirl who loves to fetishize gay relationships , I'm not ftm and even that is frustrating to me