Controlling Acropora-Eating Flatworms AEFW | Reef Receipts

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@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Time to check the receipts on biological control of AEFW!
@beepboop204
@beepboop204 Жыл бұрын
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Super fun coming up to do this! Thanks for having me and letting me be all nerdy than!!
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
It was wonderful having you over for the extended weekend.
@so_so_reef
@so_so_reef Жыл бұрын
This is a phenomenal idea for a series, bringing the science back to the hobby.
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
I am so glad Brandi enjoys reading scientific journals
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!! I’m excited to be able to talk about some nerdy things.
@charlottefalconer8602
@charlottefalconer8602 Жыл бұрын
OMG I love this series. Please keep them coming!
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! I’ll try to convince than!
@ryanreeves8931
@ryanreeves8931 Жыл бұрын
BRANDI
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
More to come! We shot 4 of these on Brandi's last visit here.
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Lol. That made me smile! Glad you liked it! Hope we can do a lot more of these! 💚☺️
@thomasdirocco
@thomasdirocco Жыл бұрын
Really like this series Brandi and Than! Thanks so much for the literature review.
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@ten4tango
@ten4tango Жыл бұрын
The value in that paper is yes - that species of peppermint shrimp and 6-line wrasses do consume AEFW, that does not imply that you can throw a single fish in a 180 gallon tank and it will eliminate thousands of AEFW. The conversation about peppermint shrimp species is an interesting one - I've been reefing for about 10 years and have solely been able to control Aiptasia with the peppermint shrimp we get here in Florida. I must admit I've had some that don't seem to do anything and others that make Aiptasia disappear. I now wonder if success is based on increasing the shrimps activity level by adding a couple at a time, making more active at night(fighting for territory or seeking a mate, etc), which in turn makes it more likely to find Aiptasia. A single individual definitely seems to camp in one spot.
@LakesideReefing
@LakesideReefing Жыл бұрын
Awesome information. Thanks for sharing
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul!!
@hurricaneaquatics
@hurricaneaquatics Жыл бұрын
I had a copperband butterfly, just about 1.5 inches that was brand new to my tank. He was on a hunger strike when introduced, for 7 days and I tried every food made. One day, I saw him cruise over to one of my Maricultured Acropora, that happens to have a few Spionid boring worms, and eat about 4 of the 5 Spionid worms! I was in love! However, my yellow Scopas Tang would not stop bullying him and I had to remove. Back to the topic, I have mainly Maricultured Acropora colonies in my tank and every single one of these came in infested with AEFW. I have never had any issues in the tank with AEFW. I dip in CoralRx for 5 min, then Revive for 5 or 10 min, then rinse and immediately dip for 15 minutes in Lugol's Iodine. That seems to do the trick as I have no AEFW. The only livestock I have that would eat them is a Yellow and purple wrasse.
@kjeldlarsen912
@kjeldlarsen912 Жыл бұрын
Thank you both
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Of course! 😋
@mariobetancourt9549
@mariobetancourt9549 Жыл бұрын
WOW. I love this video. One of the most helpful videos I've seen on youtube.
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@fernbutler8630
@fernbutler8630 Жыл бұрын
So a shop a work for in Michigan, we have acro-eating flatworms, though not too many. I do find them from time to time. My little tidbit I wanted to share, I found one eating a stomatella snail! I caught the stomatella, because I want more in my tanks and my boss doesn't like them. In the specimen container, what I thought was one organism split into two. It was an acro-eating flatworm eating a stomatella tail first! The snail had a huge chunk missing where the flatworm was attached. Hope this gets read by somebody, thanks!
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Poor guy!!!
@Alisa-Kellers-Reef
@Alisa-Kellers-Reef Жыл бұрын
fantastic information thank you both for doing this 🙃can't wait for more videos 😊
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
More to come! We were able to shoot a total of 4 videos during Brandi's visit.
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Thanks lady!!! You’re the best! 💚💚
@areyouarobotz
@areyouarobotz Жыл бұрын
Love the bow tie!
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have a collection going
@BryznsReef
@BryznsReef Жыл бұрын
awesome video I needed this a month ago 😭 but will apply this knowledge for the future
@rodster44
@rodster44 Жыл бұрын
Such a great idea to bring together the scientific and hobbyist communities. Thank you Than! Now I need to go order some new acro frags from Tidal Gardens!
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Please do!
@fkubrusly
@fkubrusly Жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing real data for the hobby. Also, kudos for the authors.
@nathancross540
@nathancross540 Жыл бұрын
Great information!
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@queencityreefs
@queencityreefs Жыл бұрын
Great episode. Very interesting. Hope to see more like this. 👍🏻 🙌🏼👏🏻✌🏻
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
We will!
@tysonwest4895
@tysonwest4895 Жыл бұрын
I agree with so_so_reef, Sounds like a good SPS QT system. First a dip then a few days in peppermint shrimp tank then a few days in a wrasse tank for all new Acro additions. 🎉
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Andrew Sandler is seeing some good results in his replication. I wonder if anyone breeds that type of shrimp in the us.
@shoomie-1986
@shoomie-1986 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video, thank you for this guys!
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Shoomie
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Thank you shoomie!!! ☺️☺️
@jordanm2984
@jordanm2984 Жыл бұрын
Oooo I would love to see more literature reviews!
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
More to come! We were able to shoot a total of 4 videos during Brandi's visit.
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Sweet!!! Looking forward to doing more! ☺️💚
@mkampgt
@mkampgt Жыл бұрын
Great video and great content, Brandi and Than!
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Matt!
@Mr_Tequila_Travels
@Mr_Tequila_Travels Жыл бұрын
Hey Guys, really like the video, cool to share this sort of data!!!! Receipts!!!!!
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Ellery-USA
@Ellery-USA Жыл бұрын
6 line Wrasses are definitely my go to for every tank of mine. Peppermint shrimp tend to just disappear.
@beauluftenburg3167
@beauluftenburg3167 3 ай бұрын
Unless you’re sixline sucks!
@Willyoustandintheend
@Willyoustandintheend Жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it
@burtminshew4812
@burtminshew4812 Жыл бұрын
Both of you are really really awesome by the way...
@so_so_reef
@so_so_reef Жыл бұрын
Something that you could do mimicking directly this study is to put peppermints/wrasse in your QT, or hospital tank, and not feed the shrimp/fish during treatment. Biological control might be more effective than human removal.
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I’m a lazy reefer. If an organism will do it for me, then I’m on board. 🤣
@aactv3223
@aactv3223 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting 👏
@dannymcelroy
@dannymcelroy 7 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you for this!!!
@randomreefer
@randomreefer Жыл бұрын
My 6 line wrasse is always searching every little nook
@danegabay3374
@danegabay3374 Жыл бұрын
Me and my brother Inlaw have been trading corals for years….. torch’s, leathers, hammers you name it. Only thing is I have flatworms and have had them for years. Constantly doing Flat worm Exit, 2-3 times in a row days apart trying to kill the newly hatched eggs. Still can’t beat them, and for some reason my brother Inlaw has never seen one. Got me thinking what does he have in his tank that I don’t. 6 line wrasse. Iv never owned one and he has always had one in his tank. After watching this I’m convinced, I definitely need to try a 6 line.
@cubanreefer1582
@cubanreefer1582 Жыл бұрын
Hummmmm I need to start watching all this videos asap
@shirtdirt1874
@shirtdirt1874 Жыл бұрын
My 6 line jumped. I had a net cover too, it literally jumped out of a 3% of the tank that wasn't covered. found him dead on top of my cover crispy under the lights.
@tidalgardens
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Bummer. Ours like to get into the overflow box and eventually down into the sump
@oldschoolnewventure845
@oldschoolnewventure845 Жыл бұрын
I disagree, six lines do jump Ive lost two until I put a screen on the tanks
@lisariggio6916
@lisariggio6916 7 ай бұрын
I found these flat worm critters eating my brittle stars from the inside 😢
@FaernB-yw9yl
@FaernB-yw9yl Жыл бұрын
That's a polyclad flatworm on the thumbnail.
@TwoScottishReefers
@TwoScottishReefers Жыл бұрын
We need a true solution to this problem. Someone will have to develop an in tank treatment that actually works. Just adding some fish is not the answer. The industry needs to step up and put money forward to develop a drug that will wipe them out. These things are literally destroying the hobby.
@TwoScottishReefers
@TwoScottishReefers Жыл бұрын
@jdamommio for those that keep sps they destroy the hobby. Years of reefing knowledge and skill to get to the pinnacle of reefing only to have it destroyed by these things.
@TwoScottishReefers
@TwoScottishReefers Жыл бұрын
@jdamommio OK you just want to argue 🙄.
@TwoScottishReefers
@TwoScottishReefers Жыл бұрын
@jdamommio I had a wall to wall sps tank and I had to sit and watch these things pick off most of the acropora. Nothing i tried did anything, the products they sell to help are Nothing but snake oil. Wrasse did nothing to help. In the end the only way was to rip off all the acropora. They are a real problem in tanks hobby. Just one of many real issues that nobody is doing anything about. The hobby is a mine field and a very stupid hobby when you really think about it.
@bthefountain
@bthefountain Жыл бұрын
There is a follow up paper that was brought to our attention that looks at chemicals. We will cover that one as well. ☺️ I think the specific type of peppermint shrimp used in the study may be worthwhile looking at as well.
@TwoScottishReefers
@TwoScottishReefers Жыл бұрын
@@jdamommio A waste of time. Qt'ing every coral and every fish before they go into your display is just too much to ask. To be safe in this Hobby you would need to qt every fish for 12 weeks and every single bit of coral and invert. Its madness, the industry must step up and provide healthy livestock. That is why I am starting to see this as a stupid minefield of a hobby.
@beepboop204
@beepboop204 Жыл бұрын
@MrJasonGlass
@MrJasonGlass Жыл бұрын
She is so pretty
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