CONTROVERSIAL: Why I HATE These 5 Music Legends!

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Jim Driver

Jim Driver

Күн бұрын

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@ramjac
@ramjac Ай бұрын
“I don’t think Eric Clapton expresses his soul when he’s playing, or maybe he does and that’s the problem.” Spot on critique! Keep ‘em coming, Jim! 😂
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thank you! I do try my best to make entertaining. Cheers!
@CharlesHoward-ud6qv
@CharlesHoward-ud6qv Ай бұрын
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@Malarkey_1
@Malarkey_1 Ай бұрын
Agree totally about Clapton, would much rather listen to the great J.J Cale, Led Zep I completely disagree with, but hey ho.
@robertesensee3494
@robertesensee3494 25 күн бұрын
I agree! SRV played with soul and you could tell by his expressions. He was better than Clapton, in my opinion. I know I will get some hate for that statement lol
@Carboggg
@Carboggg Ай бұрын
To be fair to the Who, a lot of their reputation was built from their live performances rather than their records.Many people who saw them at their 60's and 70's peak say they were phenomenal live
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Yes, I wish I'd seen the who playing somewhere like the marquee. I did see them at the town and country club sometimes in the 1990s I think, and they were pretty ordinary I thought.
@StevieZero
@StevieZero Ай бұрын
They were well burned out in the 90s...They hit their peak of greatness with Tommy at Woodstock&Isle of Wight
@sean6387
@sean6387 29 күн бұрын
My mate, Richard, had his Cortina nicked. Poilce found it, amazingly. The thieves had stripped the interior completely, but left his Genesis tape smack bang in the middle of the floor. The only thing left. He was devastated.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 29 күн бұрын
Not sure whether that's a joke or a true story. I'll take it as a true story, it certainly has the ring of truth about it! Thanks for taking the time to comment and please keep watching. Cheers!
@PWMoze
@PWMoze Ай бұрын
Careful Jim, you don't want to get done for hate speech! Then again, when it comes to Eric Clapton, its hard to hold back innit.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
"In for me! In for me! They've all got it infamy!" Isn't that how it went 😝 Thanks for watching and for taking part. Cheers!
@isabelclinton9229
@isabelclinton9229 7 күн бұрын
I feel the same way about Phil bloody Collins!
@DAVYMAC
@DAVYMAC Ай бұрын
80% of music is kinda unlistenable. I really despise rap and metal. Springsteen i tried to like, but he is mostly fake emotionally.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and for watching the video in the first place. Please stick around for more! Cheers!
@DAVYMAC
@DAVYMAC Ай бұрын
@JimDriver Cool from you bro!
@JonDeth
@JonDeth 28 күн бұрын
I was born in '78 so Genesis was with Phil Collins and ultimately a pop band that had very strong hooks and seemingly intense themes but in reality, when people listen to bands because the music itself has strong hooks, the singer can be singing about literally his rock collection or the first time he caught the flu and nobody realizes nor cares. *I say this as a singer that can sing 7 octaves, a symphonic shred and sweep style guitarist relative to guys like Eric Johnson and my brother is one of the most powerful casting directors in all of American media.* That last detail always turns dark because while my brother has a career spanning over 40 years, *I have 29 years of life story as a victim of celebrity sex trafficking, it was unbelievable names of A-listers and even now, the sex scandals making the news are nothing in comparison to what I know.* Anyway, being the musician I am, the electronics engineer scientist and inventor I am and having the life story I do, *I couldn't give a crap about famous people as a whole.* The truth behind a lot of careers even for the most talented people is still so very often tied to what is ultimately just an industrialized sex cult that people literally sex crime their way into the cabal. *Hence, the Jimmy Page and Lori Maddox who referred to sex with him as "her glorious rape!" and bragged about it, and I've seen celebrities do this to girls that young firsthand.* They turned my neighbor into a 15 year old prostitute and I'll still see her on occasion in our shitty little Ohio town named Madison and popping up with A-list famous men and women. I've assumed my brother in the industry has been involved in pimping her out specifically because she was in love with me.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 27 күн бұрын
Wow thanks for sharing all that. I don't know where to start and as result, I'll just say thanks thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts on this channel. Cheers!
@johnwilliamson7506
@johnwilliamson7506 29 күн бұрын
Who really gives a shit whether you like a band/performer or not! It’s your choice, and doesn’t make any difference to anybody else!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 29 күн бұрын
It seems to matter to you. Thanks for taking the time to comment on my entertaining video. Please keep watching and commenting… 🥸
@hansjanko7966
@hansjanko7966 Ай бұрын
Hate? Dislike ok, but hate? Hate is such a strong feeling.
@lemonjuicemusiccanada
@lemonjuicemusiccanada Ай бұрын
It’s an allowed legal word to use according to websters
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I'll give you a course in how to get people to watch your KZbin video one day, but today is not that day. Thanks for commenting and I hope you're going to watch more (just don't take the titles to literally). Cheers!
@phildoyle8263
@phildoyle8263 Ай бұрын
Hate is an emotion you can trust
@Sabotage8675
@Sabotage8675 Ай бұрын
Hate gets you to click on it. Worked on me 😂
@hansjanko7966
@hansjanko7966 Ай бұрын
@@JimDriver You feel as a winner?
@painless465
@painless465 Ай бұрын
Queen is the one for me. Not that I don’t like them, but they became way bigger than they were in “ real time “. Certainly not as good as LED Zep or The Who in my book. Moody Blues is another… boring. But I do love Procol Harum
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I agree with pretty much everything you say, with one notable exception 😎Cheers!
@johnebejer
@johnebejer Ай бұрын
I like all of those bands. My top 5 hated bands are REO Speedwagon, Toto, The Eagles , The Little River Band and Mike And The Mechanics. Huey Lewis and The News get an honourable mention.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I obviously don't agree with you and I'm very pleased we don't live next door to each other! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I appreciate all points of view. Please keep watching!
@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124
@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124 Ай бұрын
You hate Pink Floyd as well.
@wellsfamily8946
@wellsfamily8946 Ай бұрын
For me it’s 1) Chicago 2) Foreigner 3) Pearl Jamb 4) Grateful Dead 5) Bruce Springsteen
@60sPsycheFanatic
@60sPsycheFanatic Ай бұрын
He said British bands can't you read
@AreJayCee
@AreJayCee Ай бұрын
Oasis would definitely top my list
@bruce6014
@bruce6014 Ай бұрын
@@60sPsycheFanatic Jefferson Airplane are British?
@60sPsycheFanatic
@60sPsycheFanatic Ай бұрын
@@bruce6014 If you had a brain you would equal a cabbage.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
To be fair, the word "British" crept into the title without me noticing. Although my experience is generally about British bands, I do occasionally touch on our American cousins, and those from the antipodes.. Great calls and I agree with most of them! Cheers!
@bobikdylan
@bobikdylan Ай бұрын
Fair enough, Jim. Different strokes for different folks. I also couldn't see the appeal of Grammar School or prog rock, maybe because I went from a council estate to a grammar school and fit in like a pork pie in a synagogue. Pretentious or what? I loved the Who, though. They were sensational live.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Cheers! I'm not sure I got my point fully across, which was that all the members of Genesis had only known a privileged background and had never done a stroke of work before they created the band and started pontificating about life.
@TheD4VR0S
@TheD4VR0S 6 күн бұрын
@@JimDriver Except your wrong, Steve Hackett and Phil Collins were working class
@PussJohnson
@PussJohnson 28 күн бұрын
I enjoy some early Who, but they turned into a ‘concept band’. I got convinced to go and to see them with friends in 2007 at The Rose Bowl, it was the most boring gig I’ve ever attended. They performed a song called Tea & Theatre, holding actual mugs of tea onstage. I felt mugged!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 27 күн бұрын
If you look closely, the who were probably wearing slippers 😀 thanks for commenting. Cheers!
@PussJohnson
@PussJohnson 27 күн бұрын
@JimDriver 😹😹😹
@richardvandervoort
@richardvandervoort Ай бұрын
With the risk of people willing to kill me after this but I hate the band Muse.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
That's something for me to muse over this evening… Thanks for taking part and please keep watching. Cheers!
@peterdemeteor8399
@peterdemeteor8399 Ай бұрын
Not keen on Queen myself, but I get the most defensive responses from many people when I tell them that. After watching the excellent support acts (inc. Supercharge & Steve Hillage) at their Hyde Park concert in 1976 I gave them a chance but realised halfway through their 1st song I wasn't going to enjoy it, so walked out - possibly the only time I've left an event early.
@Pwecko
@Pwecko Ай бұрын
I saw Supercharge a couple of times in the mid-70s. They were brilliant. They supported Suzi Quatro at Manchester University in 1976 and went down a storm. As soon as they finished, nearly everyone left, and she played to a virtually empty room.
@jamesrowe3606
@jamesrowe3606 Ай бұрын
Queen pissed me off at Live Aid. Everyone else was explicitly playing for Africa, many of them clearly passionate about the cause. Queen were just playing a big gig on tv, for nobody but themselves. The ego had landed. My brother took me to a Queen gig and by far the best thing about it was Supercharge. They were great.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I think quite a lot depends on how you feel on the day. I've missed out on a few killer performances because I wasn't in the mood. Thanks for watching and sharing your views. Please keep watching and commenting! Cheers!
@peterdemeteor8399
@peterdemeteor8399 Ай бұрын
@@JimDriver I've never liked Queen Jim, since I first heard 'Seven Seas Of Rhye' on the radio - I thought they were pretentiousness & lacked soul. Then, when they played Sun City - well!
@timflatus
@timflatus Ай бұрын
I'm not a Queen fan, but again it has to be said, they were very good live. There are many artists whose skill I can appreciate, but their music does little for my viscera. Page was good with the Yardbirds, but the truth is I actually listen to Beck.
@charlesbenoit5252
@charlesbenoit5252 Ай бұрын
I was surprised to see I agreed with you on every band. Not what I expected
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks! I always like it when someone agrees with me. 😝 Thanks for taking part. Please keep watching!
@robertesensee3494
@robertesensee3494 26 күн бұрын
I used to like Zeppelin, but after I found out how they "stole" or "borrowed" music without giving proper credit turned me off. When they stole from Spirit and got away with it, in my opinion, that really upset me. It was taken without credit and I don't care what a court ruling says.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 25 күн бұрын
They were very naughty millionaires. Cheers!
@stephenpeterson6676
@stephenpeterson6676 6 күн бұрын
Bro say what you want about the stolen lyrics (because yeah it’s pretty much just lyrics) but I’m sorry, you’re a goof if you think they stole stairway from spirit. You don’t steal a basic chord progression that’s been in written music since the beginning. It was such an obvious cash grab from the estate of randy California, he didn’t even do anything about it himself and probably would disagree with it.
@robertwhyst
@robertwhyst 20 күн бұрын
Jim, as usual, spot on ... and very much share the same opinion.I do like some of the music of the above bands and some of the individual musicians (Clapton isn't one of them lol ) ... but never got the theatrical prog thing either (Genesis flower pot? wtf?), neither the "original blatant ripp off" some of those bands performed.Some even argued that they really didn't "borrow" those riffs, it just came to them in a "sacred muse inspired vision" ... had once an argument with Mr Page regarding that subject, and his choice of "muse".🤔(Yep, never meet your idols in person, and definitely not near a well stocked bar lol 😄)
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 19 күн бұрын
Great comment: thank you very much for sharing it with us! Thanks too for the the kind words. I'm sure plant, page, and the rest were hallucinating when they were banking, their royalty cheques …🥸
@peterchecksfield9958
@peterchecksfield9958 Ай бұрын
While I can't agree on the early stuff by The Who (basically the first two albums and the first few singles), I'm 80% with you there. I wish in a way you'd included The Beatles too, who I feel were the greatest Beat Group ever to come out of Liverpool but peaked circa 'A Hard Day's Night'.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Not sure I agree with you about the Beatles to be honest. When you think that they were the same age as the members of Genesis when they wrote and performed most of their great songs, the difference between the two bands is staggering. The members of the Beatles had a varied and more robust history than Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins and their chums. I'm a big champion of the Beatles I'm afraid, though I do agree that their solo stuff after the band broke up is generally pretty lame. Cheers!
@peterchecksfield9958
@peterchecksfield9958 Ай бұрын
@@JimDriver It's Macca I have a problem with. With John's songs, he usually sounded passionate or vulnerable (depending on the song), but Paul nearly always comes across to me as "clever" and smug. That said, when I saw him live in 1990 it was one of the best concerts I've ever seen!
@Madmax-rz5hz
@Madmax-rz5hz Ай бұрын
@JimDriver BTW, only Gabriel, Rutherford and Banks went to Charterhouse, Collins and Hackett joined later. Yes, I was a fan back in the day, love Seconds Out
@aaronarnold6726
@aaronarnold6726 29 күн бұрын
I don't like the Beatles. I used to like the doors but they've remastered the albums so many it sounds like garbage now. The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield and the Dead are tough listens for me. I've been surprisingly enjoying the non surf beach boys, Roxy Music and Crazy Horse. I didn't like them growing up but appreciate it now with older ears. Also Steppenwolf and The Animals. I really enjoy this channel and just subscribed!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 28 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for subscribing and for the kind words. Also thank you, for the great comment. I agree everything you say, we can't agree about the Beatles! Thanks again and please keep watching. Cheers!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for subscribing and for the kind words. Thanks too for a great comment and I agree with practically everything that you say, apart from the Beatles! Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@aaronarnold6726
@aaronarnold6726 28 күн бұрын
@@JimDriver No problem Jim. We don't all agree but it's good to be respectful and keep an open mind. Be well.
@mikeyratcliff3400
@mikeyratcliff3400 Ай бұрын
I used to work with Mo marriots' dad in Ashford railway shed, Chart Leacon, mild quiet guy, could have given it all up but preferred to write poetry in our dinner breaks and support a migrane charity, and kent County cricket club!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story! I don't recall Steve ever mentioning his dad. Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@jenkinses8121
@jenkinses8121 Ай бұрын
Seeing this list makes me thank the stars even more for sending us the Ramones, the Undertones, the Buzzcocks and the Specials
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Indeed! Although there were some great bands in the 1960s and 1970s, punk was a much-needed group that swept away a lot of old rubbish. Thanks for sharing those thoughts and please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@phillipabond8044
@phillipabond8044 29 күн бұрын
100%!
@stufen11
@stufen11 Ай бұрын
Even Roger had to pinch his nose, when they played 'Boris The Spider'.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
It's possibly the worst song I can think of, though there's probably a lot worse than that if I really put my mind to it. Cheers!
@g.garcia7151
@g.garcia7151 28 күн бұрын
Fantastic commentary. For what it’s worth, I see myself as a third kind of music fan. There’s a huge part of me that’s pretty much the collector type you mentioned, but I’m also passionate about the live experience (well, at least as long as it’s a small venue). I’m pretty much with you on your picks except The Who, which I love. As for Led Zeppelin, it still boggles my mind that they won the lawsuit brought by the band Spirit, and Willie Dixon should have gotten a lot richer than he did, they ripped him off so much.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for kind words and I agree with practically everything you say. Thanks for taking the time to share those thoughts and please keep watching. Cheers.
@megalimey2423
@megalimey2423 Ай бұрын
Great video , Jim!!! Well done ...so bored of people harping on about "Classic Rock"..big yawn...All the best 👍
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks! I do appreciate the kind words. Cheers!
@iankr
@iankr Ай бұрын
Great video, Jim, as ever. I agree with some of what you say, and disagree with other bits. But I'd defend to the death your right... etc etc. At the end of the week, it's down to personal taste & horses for courses, as others have said.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks that great comment. I totally agree with you and thanks for kind words! Cheers!
@baabo708
@baabo708 27 күн бұрын
Nice to see that people who were dropped repeatedly at birth get to have KZbin channels too.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 25 күн бұрын
And also, people who don't make videos can come on and criticise those who do. 😀 Thanks for taking part and I hope you subscribed, so I can push more of my "misguided" opinions your way. Cheers!
@Pwecko
@Pwecko Ай бұрын
"He (Clapton) didn't give me the emotional support I need from a band." Do you really need emotional support from a band? They are entertainers, not family members or therapists.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Yes, I do need some kind of emotional tie-in with the music I'm listening to, otherwise what's the point?
@Pwecko
@Pwecko Ай бұрын
@@JimDriver A tie-in and support are two different things. I agree that music can have a big effect on your emotions.
@raymondbonington9355
@raymondbonington9355 Ай бұрын
Don’t think Ian Anderson ever ever sacked anyone from jethro Tull he always got management to do it or in later years by email .
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Yes, that makes sense. He was certainly was one for the "correct protocol". I can remember listening to all this going on (and it took quite a long time) before I was eventually told to get down. Weird!
@raymondbonington9355
@raymondbonington9355 Ай бұрын
@@JimDriver must admit I like Tull think even johhny rotten liked aqualung,good showman Ian Anderson but lousy at telling blokes to get down off roofs lol
@Redandranger
@Redandranger Ай бұрын
@@JimDriver Ever consider that perhaps Mr Anderson was not good in face to face confrontation?
@zengintepe
@zengintepe Ай бұрын
Enjoyed that Jim, think I'll give the rest of the comments section a swerve for now though! Keep 'em coming!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks and thank you very much for saying so! Yes, the comment section on this one has been quite difficult. You should see the ones I've had to delete, not because they are critical (I don't mind that) but because they're totally offensive, I'm not just to me!! Thanks again. Cheers!
@Ted_James
@Ted_James Ай бұрын
As a musician, I'm definitely in the camp of not feeling like you have to make the live show match the recordings. Shows come and go, but recordings are forever. Might as well go all out. Also, other than a few songs, I was never a fan of Genesis, especially in the poppy, synth-driven stuff. Same for Jefferson Airplane/Starship. Jimmy Page is a massive thief who also co-wrote some good songs.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for that. I agree that the stage show should reflect the recorded work but I do like a bit of live performance flair in there as well. Faithfully recreating album tracks note for note doesn't work for me: it's what tribute bands do. I take your point about JP. Cheers!
@AreJayCee
@AreJayCee Ай бұрын
Agree with you on Genesis. I never got it with either era of the band
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks! Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@60sPsycheFanatic
@60sPsycheFanatic Ай бұрын
I have all the early WHO, Cream, Yardbirds singles. Never rated Zep or Clapton. Who is the fifth one cause the airplane were not British. Loved Genesis till they morphed into Collins backing group. For me Dire Straits lived up to their name like ELP and Yes they were created to send you to sleep.
@paulbrookes413
@paulbrookes413 Ай бұрын
Well, you being a Psyche head, you gotta be half asleep to begin with 😂
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for a great comment! Cheers!
@petem7118
@petem7118 10 күн бұрын
Agree with all those mate…. I felt at the time that I was hearing something different to everyone else when listening to people around me raving about these bands….
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 10 күн бұрын
Good for you! Thanks for sharing that and please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@johnspaulding1681
@johnspaulding1681 Ай бұрын
can't disagree Jim,but for me..Cream were good in spots, the Who lost me after Sell Out ..and might I add an RIP to Shel Talmy who produced the Who. Kinks and Creation in their formative years
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to watch and to comment. We can't all agree on everything, thank gawd! Cheers!
@julianmbrown
@julianmbrown Ай бұрын
I'm with you on all these. I liked My Generation & I Can't Explain by The Who as a kid but everything else you mention I'm totally on board with. In fact I'd add Pink Floyd (post Syd) to the list too.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Yes, Pink Floyd very nearly made the list and would certainly be on a future video of the same subject. You're right about my generation and I can't explain: they're the only two who songs I don't actually hate. Cheers!
@julianmbrown
@julianmbrown Ай бұрын
​@@JimDriverBrilliant! Add Fleetwood Mac & Kate Bush & we've got a full house ;-)
@nicmancer7296
@nicmancer7296 Ай бұрын
Another really enjoyable video, even if you dig out one of my favourite bands - The Who. I'm so delighted that someone has finally said how awful Led Zeppelin are, that I'm going to let your dislike of The Who pass. Great videos, which always bring back a few memories for me. Looking forward to more.
@paulbrookes413
@paulbrookes413 Ай бұрын
Zep are overrated, but they are far from 'Awful' !
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate the kind words, it makes it all worthwhile! Cheers!
@bucko321
@bucko321 Ай бұрын
I was never into Led Zep or Genesis, some of my chums thought they was great,but they was just trying to be sophisticated , really they liked T rex and slade.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
It's hard not to like T Rex or Slade, but I do admit they were both better in fairly small doses. Cheers!
@ealingschoolofdrums3692
@ealingschoolofdrums3692 Ай бұрын
Honesty, integrity with a justified Opinion ! A rare thing on the Internet, thanks Jim, luv it.
@paulbrookes413
@paulbrookes413 Ай бұрын
He's just made a fool of himself 😂
@ealingschoolofdrums3692
@ealingschoolofdrums3692 Ай бұрын
@@paulbrookes413 No he hasn't, he has identified two aspects of Music. Listening on your couch, or being there, participating.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Very kind of you to say so, thanks! Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Sex you! I hope you have subscribed to my channel. I relish the idea of annoying you further… 😝
@clivemortimore8203
@clivemortimore8203 Ай бұрын
Hi Jim, I think you and I are of a similar age. All the bands you have mentioned where the ones you had to like to be in with the crowd when we were young. I had records by most of them and considered myself cool as I wasn't listening to pop music or Motown chart music. My ears came alive with bands like Dr Feelgood, Grahame Parker and the Rumour, the Motors etc Followed by my head exploding in delight with punk. I turned my back on what had been cool to like , despite many of my mates still raving about what a great replacement Phil Collins was for Peter Gabriel (?). Thanks to John Peel's shows around the same time I went off in my own trajectory and learnt to listen to stuff out of my comfort zone and even today I keep finding new bands to listen to. I could add loads to your list but a sort of agree with your assumptions about all five bands, I still have a listen to early Genesis and certain Who songs. Have a listen to Molly Tuttle and the Golden Highway's "bluegrass" version of White Rabbit, her brother Kyle puts his soul into the banjo solo at the end.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
That is such a great comment. I'll certainly check out Molly and take everything you say on board. Cheers!
@quaid667
@quaid667 28 күн бұрын
I like the naivety of Genesis early stuff. There's an honesty that comes across probably due to not much interference from the record label. I think they were a boutique band. Although they were Prog Rock, i tried listening to other Prog Rock bands and i'm not fascinated by them as i am with Genesis. The music alone is mindblowingly brilliant because they were serving their quirky songs. Even the stage act was honest. They were boring on stage so Peter Gabriel would take that as a challenge to keep people in their seats and combat his shyness. But i get that you either obsess over this band or they leave you cold. For me, the fact that they were in their early 20's making this music is staggering.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing those memories of the early Genesis. Very interesting. Please keep watching and commenting! Cheers!
@timflatus
@timflatus Ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting to agree with you quite so strongly Jim! For much the same reasons too - these bands didn't speak to my experience or emotions and generally a bit over-hyped. The exception is Airplane - the early stuff is incredible, but I completely agree with you about Starship, something really unpleasant happened to them and it wasn't just the drugs. Jethro Tull were one of the best live acts of the 70s, bar none, so for me the acceptable side of prog ... and fish farming 🤣
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
At last: we've found the acceptable face of fish farming! Thanks for the great comment and for the kind words. Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@olavirannisto3552
@olavirannisto3552 13 күн бұрын
I like Genesis a lot, already as a teenager in the 70s. My top-3 fav Genesis album: 1. Foxtrot 2. Lamb 3. Selling England. It's always surprising how different people's music tastes are. My country (Finland) is pretty equal so I don't understand your reasoning at all, that emphasis on class thinking. The parents are rich and the musicians went to private school, so what. It is completely irrelevant, the most important thing is music and imagination. And their art touches me, the son of quite poor parents.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 12 күн бұрын
My point was that I had very different reference points to the members of the band and. As I expect music to convey some meaning to me, I I had very little to gain from listening to Genesis. And they were shit… 🤓
@johnianknox1629
@johnianknox1629 Ай бұрын
Great review Jim ,as, for me there was a few bands I just didn't get, Queen, Yes, Genesis, Roxy Music and that's just the 70's pretentious ****holes. Give me straight up classic rock everytime to get the feet tapping and the head banging.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for that great comment! I agree with most of what you say. Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124
@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124 Ай бұрын
Pink Floyd and Supertramp are better than any crappy band you like.
@Kevin-tq9fr
@Kevin-tq9fr Ай бұрын
Jim, do you remember that NEW MUSICAL EXPRESS front page IS THIS MAN A PRATT, about FREDDIE MERCURY.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
They were such cards at the NME! Not sure they got the right person though I would've put Brian May on the cover with a similar headline! Cheers!
@Pwecko
@Pwecko Ай бұрын
I never got into Genesis or Jefferson Airplane/Starship. I liked some Cream tracks, though Clapton was hugely overrated. I loved Led Zeppelin and saw them live twice. The Who were patchy. After Who's Next, they fell away, in my opinion, but I loved their 60s singles, Tommy, and Who's Next. I saw them at Charlton Athletic football ground in 1976, and they were fantastic. There are no bands or musicians I truly hate. I reserve that emotion for the likes of Tony Blair, Keir Starmer, and Sadiq Khan.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
We may agree on musical matters, but we definitely don't agree on politics! But it's always good to have different points of you and I hope you keep watching my videos. Cheers!
@Pwecko
@Pwecko Ай бұрын
@JimDriver This is the first video of yours I've seen. I'll have to check out some of the others.
@Viceace70
@Viceace70 Ай бұрын
Have to agree on prog rock its so soulless and pretentious. I like some of Jethro tulls rockier songs like hymn 43 but prog rock just leaves me bored. Also never got into zeppelin and i hate stairway to heaven.
@paulbrookes413
@paulbrookes413 Ай бұрын
What DOES turn you on ? !
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for that. I always like it when someone agrees with me. 🤓 I hope you're gonna keep watching my videos. It will be pointless if you weren't. Cheers!
@saintgeorge6706
@saintgeorge6706 Ай бұрын
In the mid 60s we lived around the corner from the Uppercut club in Forest Gate. I still remember walking past the street it was in late at night with my dad and hearing this really loud live music. It may have been The Who?
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for Shane those amazing memories of the 1960s. Please keep watching and commenting! Cheers!
@rabbitss11
@rabbitss11 Ай бұрын
Genesis and their dreary songs of tales about ye olde englande is indeed twee
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I totally agree! Thanks for taking the time to watch and to comment. Cheers!
@pmoran7971
@pmoran7971 Ай бұрын
Jim Amazed by your list,, I think your are pulling all our legs, these are the best bands in musical history apart from Jefferson Starship who were genuinely not very good, why is Yes and King Crimson not on your list?, these are also wonderful bands, however I agree about Clapton but only after Cream ended, because he became far too commercial, These bands were far better than your favourite band, the Beatles because they were a studio band and had a genius called George Martin behind them, however I still like what you put out, take care
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate you checking it down to a comment. Even if we don't agree, I always like hearing other people's views. I wasn't pulling any legs, those bands genuinely make me angry and/disappointed. Cheers!
@philspan
@philspan Ай бұрын
Cream were too early for me. I never got the Eric Clapton thing
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
A technician rather than a musician or someone once told me. I hope you're a subscriber: we need people like you! Cheers!
@zeljkofatzek3670
@zeljkofatzek3670 28 күн бұрын
If you don't like twee Prog-rock I'm actually suprised that you didn't mention Yes or Moody Blues (?) instead of Cream & the Who who actually created rock history. Jethro Tull was pushed into Prog-rock category after overblown Thick As a Brick, but original line-up music was completely something different. Anyway, I like your against-the-grain ethos, maybe you should argument it a bit better.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 28 күн бұрын
I sent it to do more on this subject ! Thanks for taking the time to comment and please keep watching. Cheers!
@rosspronger5839
@rosspronger5839 Ай бұрын
Genesis were so pretentious. I also never got Led Zeppelin.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Quite agree. Thanks for sharing that!
@Cromwell142
@Cromwell142 Ай бұрын
Two of the best bands ever! Thanks for bringing them here in just one sentence.
@zestyut1344
@zestyut1344 Ай бұрын
Genesis yes• led zeppelin nooooo
@donaldanderson6604
@donaldanderson6604 Ай бұрын
To quote Genesis, if you think that it's pretentious you've been taken for a ride.
@painless465
@painless465 Ай бұрын
Gabriel Genesis were great. Even Trick of the Tail is great. I can see the problems with LZ, but I still love em
@ArchambaultMark
@ArchambaultMark Ай бұрын
The problem, in my opinion, is the legacy of lunkheaded lyrics. No matter how good the song, there was always a dumb line in there. REO Speedwagon falls into this same camp.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I totally get what you mean! Sometimes a catchy tune can be overshadowed by a line that doesn't sit right. Cheers!
@mnbv990
@mnbv990 Ай бұрын
Nice one Jim. pop stars are unjustly deified nowadays.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks! I quite agree. Cheers!
@bernmahan1162
@bernmahan1162 Ай бұрын
Yes sir! Taylor Swift might be worth a listen if she had 10% of the creativity and skill shown by... I don't know... Osibisa?
@phillipabond8044
@phillipabond8044 29 күн бұрын
In my first year at university best mate was a Genesis fan. That was 1981 so they were getting a bit dated by then. They left me cold ( and bored). I was a council house kid and her family were certainly better off than mine and I've always wondered if they mostly appealed to 'posher' kids. She did kind of lose interest in them once she got into student ways. Moved on to Japan and Gary Numan at any rate. Is that progress? 😀
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 28 күн бұрын
Ha ha! Some might call it progress. Never judge, that's my motto. Thanks for taking part and please keep watching. Cheers!
@65Lynchy
@65Lynchy Ай бұрын
Totally agree with led zep... Marriott was way above,Minnie Havers n Jake Holmes were ripped off
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Yes, there were lots of legal wrangles around Zepp's "songs" and because of their money and legal might, the band usually won. It's the way of the world, I'm afraid. Thanks for watching and for commenting. Cheers!
@clivemortimore8203
@clivemortimore8203 Ай бұрын
Jimmy Page quite liked Randy California's riffs and solos, as Mr Driver says they had the money and the legal might.
@tonyhelliar3719
@tonyhelliar3719 27 күн бұрын
I agree with you about Led Zeppelin and Genesis. Genesis represent all that I dislike about prog rock which always seemed to be motivated by demonstrating cleverness rather than making an emotional connection with the listener. I have mixed feelings about The Who; I like their singles but not their albums, which seemed a lot of pretentious tosh. I disagree about Cream and Eric Clapton. I think he is one of the most expressively brilliant guitarists in rock history; check him out in The Concert for George Harrison, for example, and some of his playing with Cream and John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers. Jefferson Airplane were of their time.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 25 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for providing such a lucid and interesting comment. This channel has some wonderful people taking part. Cheers!
@tkffin
@tkffin 28 күн бұрын
Great vid as usual. I reckon some who lyrics are worse than genesis Floyds posh rock are not for me either.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 28 күн бұрын
Yes, I totally concur. Thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to express them. Cheers!
@stevelyon867
@stevelyon867 Ай бұрын
I was sure that Pink Floyd would have been on the list at some point. Good list, great video, thoroughly enjoyed it.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 29 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the kind words. See the previous post for my reaction to Pink Floyd. I don't hate them, but for me, the jury is out. Thanks again! Cheers!
@paulathomas4944
@paulathomas4944 6 күн бұрын
I was thinking before I watched the video "I don't actually hate any band". Then you mentioned Led Zepplin... We al like different things and there's nothing wrong in that. The only song by Jefferson Airplane that I can remember is White Rabbit which to this day I think is excellent.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 5 күн бұрын
Part of the reason for me making these videos is to stir it up and provoke thought. But mainly it's entertainment. Thanks for taking part and please keep watching. Cheers!
@PaddyBaxter-ji8in
@PaddyBaxter-ji8in Ай бұрын
I’m totally with you on Genesis, too much of an effort required to listen to them. Some silly song titles that the songs don’t match up to, unlike with Steve Hillage/Gong, where what you see on the sleeve is as daft as what you hear when you put the record on. The Who were great up till “Quadrophenia” which would have been a decent record had it just been a single album but after 1974 they went downhill no argument from me on that one. Cream would have sounded a lot better than they did had they appeared about 3 or 4 years later by which point recording technology had seriously improved. First Cream LP was recorded on a 2-track machine and I don’t think they ever got beyond 8-track (if that) by the time they split in 1968. I was just listening to a Cream live album before stopping to watch your video - it’s fine but the BEST recording I’ve heard of them is on a 2LP set called “Live In San Diego 1968” which is from the mixing desk and way clearer than anything on their studio albums. Clapton went seriously off the boil after Cream. Incidentally, in contrast to Clapton, Ginger Baker was big mates with Fela Kuti and was pretty much an honorary black man. Amongst other things he built a studio in Nigeria which was closed down by Decca Records via legal action pretty much instantly although I think Paul McCartney managed to record a couple of tracks there (for “Band On The Run”) before this happened. He also gave full credit to the drumming from west Africa as having inspired his playing. Jefferson Airplane are patchy but I am ok with some of it and can’t hate them. Zeppelin are special, though. “Whole Lotta Love” was ripped off from “You Need Love” by Willie Dixon, who, while he didn’t get a credit for that one until 1994 I think, does get credited for at least two tracks on Zeppelin’s first album. Small Faces just covered it first, that’s all. Incidentally, Steve Marriott was the first choice as the singer for the original lineup of “Le(a)d Zeppelin” but this idea was dropped after threats from Don Arden. Lineup would have been: Jimmy Page & Jeff Beck-guitars, John Entwistle-bass, Keith Moon-drums and possibly Nicky Hopkins-piano. The above lineup with John Paul Jones replacing Entwistle recorded “Beck’s Bolero” which fetched up on Jeff Beck’s “Truth” LP, for which none of them were properly credited if at all on the sleeve. Zeppelin stole a LOT of stuff like you say but they did it very well. Even their least popular album, “In Through The Out Door”, would be a 5-star album had any other band released it. Some people expect them to sound just like the record live which they didn’t and don’t get the live stuff when they hear it but plenty of people do, they are the most bootlegged band ever, and most of these bootlegs are live. Whatever you may think of them, they are (for me, anyway) the best rock & roll band ever. Accept no substitute.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for your fantastic comment! I agree we practically everything that you say. I did have a couple of stories about Ginger Baker and Jack Brace but I cut them out in the edit as they weren't particularly enlightening or even entertaining. Please keep watching and commenting and I look forward to reading, your next comment. Cheers!
@allenarmstrong7435
@allenarmstrong7435 29 күн бұрын
LedZepp were entirely derivative + image. Genesis severely overrated.
@saintgeorge6706
@saintgeorge6706 Ай бұрын
My pet hate is Bob Dylan.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
He can be very annoying, I agree. But certain songs have stayed with me over the years thanks for taking part. Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@saintgeorge6706
@saintgeorge6706 Ай бұрын
@@JimDriver I just can't get past that ugly voice nor his attitude.
@mikmcmee9387
@mikmcmee9387 Ай бұрын
Zimmerman is a fake Woody Guthrie wannabe who plagiarised Hank Snow among others.
@painless465
@painless465 Ай бұрын
Nah. Hes the greatest
@saintgeorge6706
@saintgeorge6706 Ай бұрын
@@painless465 I still hate him.
@NatashaSherringham
@NatashaSherringham Ай бұрын
Funny what you say about the members of Genesis having no experience of life and by that you mean that basically, because they had rich parents, although Phil Collins didn't, they don't know what it's like to rough it!! It strikes me that Peter Gabriel has spent most of his solo career, the best part of 50 years, giving lots of his own time and money, doing countless benefits for Amnesty International and bringing mass attention to the poor and suffering!! How many people honestly knew who Bantu Stephen Biko was before Pete sang about him, or the horrors and injustice of the apartheid regime in South Africa?? I just get the feeling that for people like yourself, you feel that it's almost fashionable to mock Genesis!! They were/are brilliant musicians and their songs, certainly in the Peter Gabriel era, had so much imagination and originality about them!! Look at the current music scene, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, Taylor Swift, etc, there's none of that whatsoever!! People like you and that classic albums guy make me laugh, are you failed musicians or something?? So obsessed are you with your own self importance, you have to create a channel on KZbin and criticise successful music artists, with millions of fans, who got out there and did the business over many years!! I just don't understand why you think your views matter, you're nobody!!
@paulbrookes413
@paulbrookes413 Ай бұрын
Tony Banks says he tries to put himself in the place of others in his songs ! The guy has empathy !
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for venting your views about Genesis. Maybe you should make a video about them: you obviously feel passionate. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. I hope you subscribed!
@Kinghornish
@Kinghornish Ай бұрын
Well said! I'm with you 100%. All in all, this was a garbage, meaningless presentation. I utterly loathed it!
@PaddyBaxter-ji8in
@PaddyBaxter-ji8in Ай бұрын
@@NatashaSherringham Phil Collins didn’t go to a public school, nor did he come from a poor family. His dad worked in the City of London, his elder brother became a cartoonist for the Daily Mail and his sister became a ballet dancer. He was doing adverts for knitting wool when he was a kid and replaced Steve Marriott as the Artful Dodger in the stage version. Those Collins kids had plenty of opportunities in the performing arts at a very early age from what I can gather. Most kids don’t get anywhere near that. He might have played Buster Edwards in that awful film - best bit was seeing him getting arrested at the end, shame it had to wait two hours for it to happen and that it didn’t happen in reality - but he isn’t Working Class. He was a great drummer but his personality, which we all got to see rather too much of during the 80s and 90s and turned out to be his undoing for many of the UK public, eg, being absolutely everywhere and doing everything on TV and radio to the point of somewhere beyond overexposure, sharing a stage with Norman Tebbitt, writing songs about the homeless when he was (and still is) absolutely loaded and totally out of touch, could use a lot of work. Working class my…..
@MaterLacrymarum
@MaterLacrymarum Ай бұрын
Huh. I'm in my 60's, and agree with most of this list. I think I appreciate Led Zep more than yourself, but other than that, you're spot on. However, the one band you didn't mention is The Beatles. They make my skin crawl.
@paulbrookes413
@paulbrookes413 Ай бұрын
What's that about The Beatles ??!!
@derradune6722
@derradune6722 Ай бұрын
Weirdo
@MaterLacrymarum
@MaterLacrymarum Ай бұрын
@@paulbrookes413 I just can't. The Beatles just grind my gears. I have an extensive collection made up from the 1960's inward, but own no Beatles. The whole thing with them is just Urgh..... IMO YMMV.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of the Beatles and think they made a huge difference to British music, but we can agree to differ on that. Cheers!
@MaterLacrymarum
@MaterLacrymarum Ай бұрын
@@JimDriver Oh, I understand the history - it's just the whole Beatles mythology that just annoys the heck out of me. I just can't handle it at all. Their success and popularity goes without saying, it's just not for me.
@Fastnbulbous1969
@Fastnbulbous1969 Ай бұрын
You explain yourself very well, and I agree with much of it! Some artists I go back and forth with as I struggle to get into but keep trying, like Genesis. I don't hate 'em, but could never truly connect with their albums, as with Jethro Tull. I've always hated everything about Clapton, and love how Hendrix offered to let Clapton tune his guitar for him at that famous show in London in '67, basically the equivalent of telling the rock cognoscenti to shine his shoes, and his little Jimi while they're at it. I have mixed feelings about Zep, as I do like the albums no matter how badly they plagiarized, stole, and were generally horrible humans. The Who were a great singles band, but Townshend's ego refused to accept that he wasn't a genius who could write meaningful stories. He could not, but his nonsensical narratives were still good enough for rock fans.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for a great comment! I agree with much of what you say and wish I'd said some of it! Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@Kevin-tq9fr
@Kevin-tq9fr Ай бұрын
Another great vid Jim , I saw the Who about a dozen times at the Marquee in a small venue they were great , but once they moved to bigger venues not the same.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Yes, I can see that. I never saw the who anywhere other than a big venue. Thanks for the kind words. Cheers!
@Compliment_Thief
@Compliment_Thief Ай бұрын
Chubby Chris Henderson the lead singer of Combat 84 went to Charterhouse too!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for that insight: It says a lot! Cheers!
@jimsaco4334
@jimsaco4334 Ай бұрын
Of course the Airplane wasn't British but anything by the Airplane/Starship that didn't include Marty Balin was down right terrible.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I think you might have put your finger on the Jefferson dilemma. Thanks and please keep watching! Cheers!
@daisywrabbit
@daisywrabbit Ай бұрын
omg hilarious editing. 😂 nice job.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks! I do try and make it entertaining and cut up my gibberish whenever I can. Cheers!
@patricka.crawley6572
@patricka.crawley6572 Ай бұрын
BINGO! on all these groups. EXACTLY right on every single group for all the right reasons. I'm 64 and saw all these groups whose music didn't really right true.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for joining in the conversation. Of course, agreeing with me it's always welcome 🤓 Cheers!
@patricka.crawley6572
@patricka.crawley6572 Ай бұрын
@JimDriver Genesis fans were into reading Tolkien and further maths. Pretended to be clever enough to understand the lyrics.
@thehum1000
@thehum1000 Ай бұрын
I hated genesis but i loved trick of the tail
@pmoran7971
@pmoran7971 Ай бұрын
hehum Truly Brilliant album, my girlfriend at the time was transfixed by this album and played it all the time
@Maltloaflegrande
@Maltloaflegrande Ай бұрын
I never had the slightest interest in them; found them totally underwhelming, but I also quite liked the cuts from "Trick of the tail" that I heard on the radio. I also liked Peter Gabriel's early solo stuff. So when he quit them, I got two acts I liked a bit for one I didn't like at all.
@paulbrookes413
@paulbrookes413 Ай бұрын
​@@pmoran7971You might like the eary Hackett solo stuff !
@pmoran7971
@pmoran7971 Ай бұрын
@@paulbrookes413 I love the Genesis revisited stuff, and still a big fan of early Genesis
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I might have to give it another listen. Cheers!
@shubr66
@shubr66 Ай бұрын
Agree with you on all of this Jim, well said. 👍👍
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate it. Cheers!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate it. Cheers!
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 Ай бұрын
Agree with every word, Jim, the only slight soft spot is for early Jefferson Airplane. They were a bit like The Monkees for heds, but Grace Slick was an interesting singer. I have catholic tastes with a few blind spots, basically I strongly dislike metal apart from the excellent Motorhead. Can't stand any band with make up except for Aladdin Sane period Bowie, and positively hate prog, no exceptions.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Ha ha, I agree with most of what you say! In retrospect, I'm not being a bit harsh on Jefferson starship/aeroplane, I can remember that when I put them on it was usually a week of trauma and things going wrong! Thanks for watching and for come in. Please do it all again. Cheers!
@RighteousBrother
@RighteousBrother Ай бұрын
Great video! I really enjoyed it, i don't like those bands either, aside from The Who!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for saying so. Cheers!
@vinylrichie007
@vinylrichie007 Ай бұрын
I really don’t care for the dude you featured. He is obviously reading from a script and he comes across as a phony.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
You're very harsh. I don't judge people so much, even if they do like prog-rock 😄 People keep telling me I should work from a script: I tried it and it looked terrible. Cheers!
@AreJayCee
@AreJayCee Ай бұрын
He's quite good, that guy. Entertaining channel
@Madmax-rz5hz
@Madmax-rz5hz Ай бұрын
Don't necessarily agree with your choices but that's just me. I would add the grateful dead to your list though!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Yes, the Grateful Dead get more praise than I think they deserve. Maybe they'll make a future list because I think I'm definitely going to have to do more of these. Cheers!
@donnydarko2100
@donnydarko2100 23 күн бұрын
I don't hate anyone or anything. However, and with a view to this, groups I don't particularly like are Yes, ELP, Supertramp, Level 42, Radiohead ( and its various offshoots ) Genesis, Queen, and many others. Incidentally, the chap on Classic Rock is not even fifty years old! Now I know no one can help the way they look ( I'm no oil painting ) but he must have had a hard life! There's a lot of more mature presenters here on KZbin that are bringing back unfortunate memories, at least to me, of Bob Harris, Ellen & Hepworth and Tommy Vance. I won't mention their names, but they're so boring I can't even get through one of their posts. It seems as if they've stayed the same since they Were a tedious and very earnest teenager. Talk about terminal boredom!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for your very revealing and entertaining comment. I agree with almost everything you say. Thanks for checking part and please keep doing so. Cheers!
@NagasakiBladers
@NagasakiBladers Ай бұрын
Jefferson Airplane were from San Francisco California, which I did not realise until now is part of Britain!
@brianstones6234
@brianstones6234 Ай бұрын
When did he say they were Brits?
@brianstones6234
@brianstones6234 Ай бұрын
?
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Yes, how true. P{roof that you should never go by the title of a video. Thanks for taking part and please keep watching!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
It's in the title, I'm afraid! Well, they were playing in London at the time. Cheers!
@johngilmore697
@johngilmore697 Ай бұрын
Always has been
@skasteve6528
@skasteve6528 Ай бұрын
There is a line from the film The Commitments 'Jazz is musical W@%#' I don't really agree with that but there is a tendency for some artists to be a bit self indulgent. That is the problem with every band you listed here. It was rife in the late sixties through to the mid seventies. It is also common in metal singing about some mythical warriors or some such nonsense. People like: Ray Davies, Steve Marriott, Joe Strummer, Ray Charles could sing a song that is relevant to listeners. Sod it, I'd even add people I don't usually listen to like Paul Anka, Neil Sedaka and the Carpenters to that list. I mean, everyone has fallen in love and most of us have experienced heartache. I can't stand Zep for the same reason, too many songs seem to be ripped off. Not quite the same, but the Stones also had a habit of crediting just Richards & Jagger when others collaborated on certain songs. Funnily enough with the exception of Charlie Watts & Ian Stewart, the Stones were all grammar school boys, although Bill Wyman had been in the RAF for three years.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks The. Great comment! I'll let you into a little secret, the Rollin Stone is very nearly made that list and will probably feature in the future video. I don't hate them but I think they're really overrated and when they moved out of the R&B phase, I lost interest. Cheers!
@vascoapolonio2309
@vascoapolonio2309 Ай бұрын
Basically, i agree 100% with your opinion. Some may not, but we live in a free europe. This not merica, the cancel culture land of the emprisoned
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to watch and to comment. I won't urge cancellation just yet. Cheers!
@glerp10000000000
@glerp10000000000 Ай бұрын
Well you dissed some of my favourite bands, and that's fine. I'm commenting to say it was nice to see Jonah pop up there. I'm an annual visitor to the Cropredy festival, site of Jonah's memorial Oak. I saw one of my favourite guitarists twice at Croppers. He played a fair chunk of stuff from his previous band..Genesis. Enjoyed the vid.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking part and for sharing those memories. It's not often I get chance to hear from someone else who remembers Jonah! Because I was never really part of the Cropredy scene, I often forget that that was what most people remember him for. Thanks again and please keep watching. Cheers!
@antoniodias4718
@antoniodias4718 Ай бұрын
I liked this vieo!! Controversial yes. I like Cream, Genesis, The Who, Led Zeppelin and a little less Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship (I think you were referring to the guitarist Craig Chaquico a Portuguese descendent born in Sacramento, very good player) but I can understand some of your opinions. I'm happy you didn't choose The Rolling Stones. See you
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and for the great comment. I'm ambivalent about the Rolling Stones so it makes me laugh when people go on about them being alternative and Keith Richards being wild. He's about as wild as a retired Stockbroker and shares many of the same attitudes! Cheers!
@dirkbogarde44
@dirkbogarde44 Ай бұрын
Genisis were before my time....only know their 80's pop/rock singles, some of which I quite liked. Same with Led Zep.....never understood the appeal of Robert Plant's wailing....though I've liked some of his less noisy stuff over the past few decades.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great comment. I like to think that Robert Plant might have rehabilitated himself: his work with Alison Krauss shows he might be on the straight and narrow finally. I seem to have cut the segment out of the video but I originally said that Genesis seemed to veer between pompous pomp rock and blithely cheerful pop rock. Both of which I find nauseating, to be honest. Cheers!
@SouthCircinus
@SouthCircinus 5 күн бұрын
Grace Slick wasn´t a great singer???? Man, that´s wild
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 4 күн бұрын
Each to their own, and we can only go by our own experiences, can't we? Thanks for checking and please keep watching. Cheers!
@gregderuiter583
@gregderuiter583 Ай бұрын
Peter Gabriel was too far out there for my taste. Didn’t mind Genesis when Phil Collins took over.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I must be honest, Phil Collins and his brand of middle-aged Rock-Pop filled me with dismay. But, if we were all the same, wouldn't life be boring? Thanks for checking out and for watching: please keep doing so as long as you can stand it!
@gregderuiter583
@gregderuiter583 Ай бұрын
@ indeed !
@davidmitchell7181
@davidmitchell7181 Ай бұрын
Agree wholeheartedly Stairway to Heaven is a song that I have to physically retune my radio or turn off if it comes on, it just winds me up something chronic. The problem is most of them end up believing their own hype, being told they are the best thing since sliced bread they end up believing it. Plus they all got into the “concept” album as if the message they were giving was supposed to mean anything to a working class guy who just wants to dance and get drunk and get lucky…. Pretentiousness at its best is Rock….or prog rock if you want to call it that
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Great comment and thanks very much for sharing your thoughts and memories. Please keep watching and commenting! Cheers!
@paulbrookes413
@paulbrookes413 Ай бұрын
@@davidmitchell7181 Don't insult the working class !
@SteveAstronaut
@SteveAstronaut Ай бұрын
I was agreeing with you until you got to Jefferson Airplane. It seems to me that the band you didn't like was Jefferson Starship. As you point out, this was often only one member of the former band. After Bathing at Baxters is one of my all time favourite albums.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Different strokes for different folks, but I see what you mean. Nevertheless, quite have lots of what the old Jefferson Airplane did was pretty gruesome at times! Thanks for checking and please keep doing so. Cheers!
@russellmorgan5611
@russellmorgan5611 28 күн бұрын
Having trouble with all music critics who present a very liberal facade when it comes to their likes and dislikes but claim on their thumbnail that their passion runs to"HATE! ". NOBODY CARES!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 27 күн бұрын
At least you get enough to share your thoughts on this channel. Thanks!
@dumbmutts.7758
@dumbmutts.7758 Ай бұрын
I have and like "A trick of the tail" by Genesis, everything else no thanks. Phil Collins voice grates me on everything else. Eric Clapton is technically a very good guitarist, however his playing is soulless. Compared to Stevie Ray Vaughan, my favorite guitarist, he doesn't compare. No time for Led Zep, The Who, Rolling Stones, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, The Eagles, Iron Maiden, Yes and many more of this genre. Thank God punk arrived and saved me. Now 1976-1981 that was an amazing time, music wise.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I quite agree, punk was like a breath of fresh air back in 1976/1977. I'm thinking we need something like punk today. Cheers!
@simonphelps3680
@simonphelps3680 Ай бұрын
Led Zeppelin started well... for me Stairway to Heaven was a complete sell out. No wonder it was covered by Rolf Harris..
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Yes, indeed. At one time, every fledgling rock band tried to do Stairway to Heaven as their encore. Most of them included it on their demo cassettes, which made it easier to weed them out! Cheers!
@bernmahan1162
@bernmahan1162 Ай бұрын
Agree. The first three Zeppelin albums were awesome. Then like so many bands they kind of lost their way.
@garyowen4602
@garyowen4602 Ай бұрын
Zeppelin were awesome.
@geofffawcett2788
@geofffawcett2788 Ай бұрын
Prog was sooo tedious. Totally agree about the live gig v listening. Liked Cream - my first ever album purchase was Full Cream
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment. WE must agree to disagree about Cream. Cheers!
@Walesktf
@Walesktf Ай бұрын
I like Cream and especially the Derek The Dominoes album. Clapton has done nothing of note since then, however. As you rightly say Zep ripped off virtually every song on their 1st 2 LPs. As for 'Rock & Roll on IV, I much prefer the Little Richard original. Grant and Cole Uggg.I absolutely adore Jefferson Airplane. Marty Balin wrote some of the best songs of the late 60s & 70s. Jeez you never mentioned the most over-rated band of all time, Queen! Nor the perennially awful Oasis. A 4th rate Beatles wanna be band at best!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I agree with almost everything you say. Queen are on the borderline for me, simply because Freddie Mercury was a superb frontman and very talented. The rest of them (particularly pedestrian guitarist Brian May) were very lucky they met up with him! I think I was a little too dismissive of Jefferson Starship/Airplane, but this was based on my experiences with the later versions in London. Cheers!
@stephensnelling3664
@stephensnelling3664 Ай бұрын
In the early 70s l was a massive Genesis fan in the cold light of 2024 The 1969 Genesis debut LP from Genesis to revelation is my favorite Album Get em out by Friday is a Lyrical embarrassment. Zeppelin were and are patchy a track here and there The who was one of the first bands Who had an impression on me Tops of the pops 1967 before that l only knew Classical music that was tort in school within that time, Tull IA has always come across as a bit of a Wazzock my music is putting the leaves back on the trees Hot tuna l really liked better than Jefferson Airline or starship, great videos keep up the great work.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the kind words and for the very interesting comment. Please keep up the good work your end as well! Cheers!
@petersimonson8856
@petersimonson8856 Ай бұрын
Genesis, the middle class boys bands when I entered a boys comp in 79 into punk/reggae. Hated them. I’ve much later got into some prog influenced stuff but Genesis, nada. But then I expect Genesis fans didn’t get early Scritti Politti.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
I think I'm old because I always enjoy a wide range of music, though I never get involved in any cult, such as becoming a mod or a skinhead. Thanks for taking part and please keep doing so. Cheers!
@chri551
@chri551 Ай бұрын
Hey Jim. Personally I like the videos on what you know and experienced.. not what you hate
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Ha ha! Yes, thanks for the input though to be fair, I do try and be positive even when I'm being negative. But I do take your point. Thanks!
@finlaypaterson2144
@finlaypaterson2144 Ай бұрын
Nice one Jim 👍
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for taking the time to say so. Cheers!
@tonysmith7913
@tonysmith7913 Ай бұрын
Yes and Emerson lake and palmer for me and by the way the who live where amazing !
@paulbrookes413
@paulbrookes413 Ай бұрын
Emerson was undeniably a genius !
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Two great calls there, and I have a feeling at least one of them will make a future video. Cheers!
@ftlpopeepopltf541
@ftlpopeepopltf541 26 күн бұрын
Really disappointed no Grateful Dead hate but maybe they are not legends.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 25 күн бұрын
Plenty of room for the Grateful Dead on another video. Thanks for taking part and please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
@mynameisnobody5295
@mynameisnobody5295 Ай бұрын
Star Trek Genesis was not good ao I agree.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Ай бұрын
Haha, thanks! Thanks for joining in. Cheers!
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