Converting the Mustang To Manual Brakes!

[@ghuye1711]

Hey man, you’re the reason I got my ‘66. She’s been my first car and a real dream come true. I’ve been working my ass off to get bring her back to life and I’m finally picking up my new motor in a few weeks. What you’re doing is bigger than just KZbin. Keep it up! If you’re ever down south in LA hmu!

[@FourSpeedFilms]

That’s awesome man! Keep it up!

[@jamesstuart3238]

Hows the 66 going?

[@jasonrackawack9369]

Dang those tires make the look of that car, everyone runs torque thrusts but the old school rubber makes them look "right". Neat car!👍

[@Chevelle602]

Agree 100%

[@steverice7546]

Abso-fuckin-lately! The wheel & tire combo sets it off and makes what would be a plain-Jane ‘64 1/2 Stang (like mine!, no offense). I think dude hit the nail right on the head! I’m jealous. Hey OP, what are the wheel/tire exact specs? I double dog dare/promise you I won’t copy you exactly on my Mustang. Pinky promise.

[@8.2deck]

I love manual brakes personally there constant at the track, and you can run a big cam with no issues

[@bobmcdougal7501]

Welcome to the manual brake club! On my 69 Mach 1 I had the same issues and the same results as you. It's nice to see youngsters into classic Mustangs.

[@markcolburn6804]

Hey Bob, I'm about to make the switch too on my '69 GT-500. Can you fill me in on the best combo and what you did on yours? I have no power assist due to my solid roller. Thank you!

[@HammerHeadGarage]

I was just watching the "Bad News" build when you were like 3 years old. Wow time flies. Manual brakes work just fine buddy. Nickel/copper lines work well.

[@nickefgen9219]

Cool car I’ve got a 1967 fastback that I’ve had since high school it’s my first car owned for 35 years

[@rivaldad88]

I can attest to the firewall weakness. Took out a friend’s GT350 clone convertible, only to have the clutch cable melt and sieze up. Swapped the auto adjusting pedal assembly to the billet non-adjustable, only to have the cable snap, but not before it put a inch long tear in the firewall where the cable passes through. Good life lessons. Welded up the firewall and put a CNC plate I designed over that section. Better than ever now!

[@steves4639]

manual steer in my Mach, which is awesome...time to convert to manual brakes too. thx for the reminder!

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks for all the support! Follow me on Instagram @benkahan for additional content!

[@noeortiz6128]

Just followed you on ig, where did you get the brake firewall plate, and the manual dual bowl master cylinder part number. Thanks

[@deadriseful]

I used to bleed brakes that way, but I spent the 100 bucks on a motive bleeder kit and never looked back. Totally worth it seeing that it forces the fluid through the master cylinder reservoirs. Also, manual brakes are the way to go for any kind of car honestly. I daily my nova with them and it doesn't bother me for a second.

[@CJColvin]

Hey it's good to see you're dad brother.

[@arlingtonhynes]

When you get the brakes sorted it’s like being born again. I just finally bled my brakes on my Kawi 636 a few weeks ago (same as you - the mity vac was a mistake) and I know exactly how you feel.

[@toddbob55]

Im 42 years old i Built a Maverick Grabber back in high school in the mid 1990's .....i love that your into old Muscle cars at your age.

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

hope you were intelligent and held on to it and not a complete idiot and got rid of it.

[@26snaiper]

The sound, the looks of this car... i just like everthing about it😂

[@kaydesign]

I had the same problem with a Classic Landrover, we placed a mechanical vacuum pump from a small European (Peugeot) car. Brakes are amazing now! But going to put manual brakes on my 1967 Mustang to : )

[@kelos79]

As a 66 model mustang owner, I follow you from across the ocean and I have no regrets :) I wish you continued success. I hope to meet you in America one day.

[@peterlopez8044]

Decided to go back to manual brakes a while ago! Literally the same reason, didn’t feel right when pressing down.

[@JDWorkshop-wn9tt]

I love how you hang out with your dad doing this hot rod stuff!

[@danielgleaves1330]

Another good vid Ben. Thanks for keeping us older (much older) motorheads entertained. It's good to see younger folk, such as yourself and Craig, keeping vintage Detroit tin alive.

[@Dave_Boyer]

I had one of those Wilwood masters on a car I built for over ten years, it worked awesome. It’s now my first choice for any car I’m working on.

[@2nd66tube2]

These cars are so lite . If you put disk on the rear you'll have to sail them way back to avoid rear lock up . Drums are actually more efficient at stopping because the self energize. disk shed heat better

[@gmans7859]

Thank you for the inspiration. After a recent camshaft change I am borderline enough vacuum to run the booster. It works but old and tired. Shall do the homework for my Torino.

[@leighpeddell8210]

Going manual master my self…nice to see your impressions. The reason you could still get bubbles using the vacuum pump is they suck air around the threads of the bleed nipples…..you need to put some grease on the bleed nipple threads and then screw them back in before bleeding….that seals the threads.

[@OldAndGettingOlder]

Well done. I once pondered power brakes. My manuals work perfectly and I much prefer the more minimal look under the hood.

[@classic_car7495]

I have had great success using the Motiv power bleeder on a bunch of my cars. The only issue I have using it is getting an adaptor for all the different types of master cylinder caps. Good luck with your ride, nice to see younger people into the "old" car hobby. I am wrapping up a restoration to my 69 coupe and I need to replace a bad master cylinder.

[@ebrowntaylor1]

I have manual brakes on my chevelle, and honestly wouldn't have it any other way. Awesome video!

[@BadAssEngineering]

10:45 Stalling The Car in front of 2 pretty girls :(

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

Happens to the best of us.

[@danithaman4610]

He did it on purpose lol. My dad has been driving stick for 30+ years but when he was showing me how to drive stick he “accidentally” stalled in front of two girls lol

[@kmoss9521]

One girl’s head snapped around when it died too! She knows!

[@fido139]

They knew they were the cause. ;)

[@tompreciado863]

Thanks for the update on the brakes. I’ve been hesitant on going with manual brakes. I will definitely give it a try. Thank you guys!

[@Photobombin]

Heck yeah man Manual Brakes are the way to go and feel so good, especially when driving classics spiritedly! Always love when you drop new content and I enjoy seeing your personal build transform and your growth with the car as well.

[@L8bro]

I did a four wheel disc brake Wilwood conversion 2 years ago to my '66. Never looked back.

[@shiftat85]

I have a 69 camaro I was on the fence about manual brakes due to a large cam. But this video changed my mind to go manual, Great video!

[@mrmoss149]

Again- love the music & when it's used. Great job. Thanks for posting

[@2-old-Forthischet]

My 67 Mustang only had 11-12 inches of vacuum but it was enough for the brake booster. Call me old but.............www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/vacuum-pumps-street Also: Q: Besides the Manual Brake Conversion Kit to mount the master cylinder, is there anything else I should do to my brake system when I convert to manual brakes? A: Yes. You should improve the rest of your brake system as much as your circumstances allow. Without power-assist, everything else in the brake system needs to work as well as possible. Among the things to consider: High performance brake pads, matched to how you use your car, should be installed. A street-driven Mustang needs pads with a high coefficient of friction when cold. Road-raced Mustangs need friction material suited for the temperatures encountered on the track. Any axle endplay will contribute to increased rear pad knockback. That will cause an intermittent low pedal that is much more noticeable with manual brakes than with power brakes. The stock Traction-Lock differential should have the clutches shimmed tightly to minimize axle endplay. Stainless steel braided brake hoses will reduce hose expansion, and provide a firmer pedal feel. The soft pedal feel from hose expansion is more noticeable with manual brakes than with power brakes. Swapping to larger front discs will greatly improve the stopping ability. For example, swapping GT rotors to larger diameter 13" Cobra-sized front brake rotors will provide a significant reduction in stopping distance. An adjustable brake-proportioning valve will allow adjusting the rear brake pressure for the best front to rear bias on your particular Mustang. Properly sizing the front and rear rotors, as well as the front and rear caliper piston areas, to be close to a front/rear bias of 70%/30% will provide the best braking performance. In the end, braking ability is determined by tire grip. Sticky tires have more grip, and will provide more stopping ability. Optimize your combination. For example, a drag race car with big sticky rear tires and skinnies up front will need a brake system with a rear brake bias much higher than 30%. Designing the brake system to have more rear bias will avoid prematurely locking the skinny front tires, and take advantage of the greater amount of rear grip. Choose a master cylinder size that properly matches up to the front and rear brakes on your Mustang.

[@lbrastaman]

Wow. I’ve had stainless steel brake company disc brakes with a power booster kit for the past 8 years and always thought the brakes were soft and slow to stop. I was about to replace them all with Wilwood brakes on all fours when a local shop suggested that I start first with just a Wilwood manual MC. Suggested the 15/16” bore and it made a huge difference! Enough that now I can stop and screech when I stop hard. Still not stopping like a new modern car but good enough for now. Maybe next will be the upgrade to Wilwood discs. Even though I went from power booster to manual, the assistance is hardly missed and totally unnecessary. Wish I knew what you did in this video years ago. Keep up the great video production and content!

[@freakindawgen]

My 65 289 4V 4-speed had the factory disc with single master cyl. Had it where only needed inch and half travel to full stop.

[@brianf8621]

Now you have good brakes. Investigate pads. I personally run Hawk ceramics for street and track day (yellow box). They take the heat of aggressive driving and consistent at cold temps. Glad to see younger generations working on their own cars.

[@markrs2000]

Just found your video, really good, clear descriptions. Love that sound, I've got a 67 coupe, small block, sounds just like that. Makes me want to get back on the road again.

[@andrewmcmurray6236]

Great video I've been wanting to put manual brakes on my chevelle, definitely the next upgrade im doing now!

[@ranzamaceanruig]

I like how you refer to changing to manual brakes as an "upgrade"! I have factory manual brakes on my '69 Buick GS. Nice and simple, work great. Go for it.

[@supersportimpalass]

Got me thinking about it now for my 64 Impala. The pedal feel right now is so inconsistent. Sometimes they work great and other times not so much. I want to put a bigger cam in and dont think thats going to help any. Thought about doing a hydraboost setup. Not sure yet.

[@Chevelle602]

I have manual brakes on my Chevelle. Never felt the need to get power brakes.

[@r.weaver3769]

I use DOT 5 or synthetic, has a higher boiling point and doesn’t harm your paint. But if you have ABS it is not recommended, not as forgiving as the DOT 3 and 4.

[@Ub3rGam3rz]

Seriesly cool ride man. And I love the effort in the videos. The sound effects are that little sprinkle that make it.

[@GnarlySpeedShop]

Manual brakes are next for the Firebird!

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Awesome! You’re going to love them

[@oceanman8125]

that thing sounds so perfect

[@tgafire87]

Adding the reinforcement plate to the parts list. Thanks!

[@caivnj]

Where did you get the plate from. I know this is a long shot question.

[@tgafire87]

@@caivnj Google master cylinder brace and there’s a few options.

[@umangu]

It’s cool that your brakes work well now. My booster works really well, but sometimes it works better than I want it to! I understand what you mean by the lack of a natural feel.

[@angelsone-five7912]

Brake fluid - the finest paint stripper in the world. (damn stuff!)

[@marcoferreira3832]

Your dad is such as cool dude!

[@ldnwholesale8552]

You drive that car on those tyres? Very brave!

[@WillyRaschke]

needs a 8-ball shifter.... He Dad, your kid is brung up right.

[@jasony9950]

Nice job on the sound editing as well as video editing. Also, nice to see a young guy into the classics. Looks like I need to go through my brakes on the falcon...

[@alankahan6669]

Hey Ben,,,did not know the stang firewall was so thin ,,happy you installed the support..happy manual looks like you did a good thing,,

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks!

[@BackYardYonkes]

Hell yeah Ben! Keep up the dope video! Manual brakes for the win 💪🏼

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks bro haha!

[@jeffs7154]

Where did you get that firewall reinforcement plate for the master cylinder?

[@FourIdiotsGarage]

Love the content man. Gives me inspiration on my 65.

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks, man! That's awesome

[@BrierJacobson]

My buddy and I were just taking about manual vs power brakes on a 1960 f100 I’m thinking about buying! I’ll show him this video 😤

[@jamesguckenberger5692]

I have the stock manual drum brakes on my 68 and I was surprised at how well they actually work. My dads 69 mgb has more modern disk brakes and mine actually compete lol.

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

drum brakes kind of blow.you might stop like discs once,do it twice and you wont.drums fade real fast

[@jamesguckenberger5692]

@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 thats true if Im braking really hard but for daily driving It isnt a big deal

[@lukevanwyk2541]

Great to see the work on your mustang. But I gotta say the video and editing skills are coming along well. Great job on both man.

[@Mourir0]

Finally new video with mustang Ben. Inspired again , i'll do the same on mine :))

[@marcuscrammer4317]

Cool! Where did you get the brace?

[@matt302de]

Coming from a family of old school muscle car enthusiasts love your videos and hopefully by the time I'm around 20 I can get a 1970 mustang or something similar like that especially a Torino

[@FourSpeedFilms]

That would be sick!

[@matt302de]

@@FourSpeedFilms it really would be you with your mustang and the other vehicles really inspires me

[@scramblendan]

Nice video. Hadn't really considered manual brakes on my car (firebird) although I do have manual brakes on my Jeep CJ (stock so of course not going to stop like Wiwood manuals). Your dad is cool...probably your best friend in disguise 🙂

[@joelywalsh]

The mustang looks good

[@MarkCarr331]

great channel.. awesome videos with fantastic editing

[@johnmilner7603]

Shame on Ford for not having the firewall plate. Glad to see the conversion worked out.

[@routeddown66]

That master cylinder looks great in there. I think you just made me go spend some money. I was debating power vs manual, the factory single reservoir and disk setup on my gt leaves a lot to be desired. Great video! Thanks man!

[@mt186]

Did you end up going manual? How are you liking it

[@65GTO400]

I really enjoy your videos! Keep em coming.

[@chikitabowow]

After you've had wonky brakes it feels sooo good to get them fixed. I had the front right brake cylinder fail on my car and it was no bueno. As soon as i started braking the car wanted to instantly turn left. And after changing that and adjusting everything it felt so good to drive it again!

[@FourSpeedFilms]

I can't agree more with you!

[@WideOpenMotorsports943]

This is awesome. I am actually looking to do this to my wife's 67 mustang. Could you tell me the Willwood part number you used for this?

[@bubot17]

you also need manual brakes if you don't have enough vacuum because of big duration camshafts

[@BadAssEngineering]

Why is this channel not having 100k subs at least ??

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks! KZbin’s algorithm sucks

[@seanjohnson6899]

Great vid. Seems like you need to get your carburetor professionally tuned maybe.

[@TheRareCriticalThinker]

Do you have a video installing your RPM guage?

[@aaronjacobs579]

Love your channel man. Great videos, content and a great car!

[@jamesstuart3238]

Nasty tire setup man

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks

[@snoopyonderdonk]

A great video as always. Love the videos Ben!

[@Rambo454]

You’re gonna get a good leg workout pressing those new brakes but just like with no power steering, you can actually feel what the car is doing better and are more in control.

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Yes haha! The pedal is not as hard as I would have imagined...feels like a modern car's pedal

[@cmscms123456]

That cam shaft was robbing you of enough vacuum to operate the booster properly. Most people with big cams will go to an electric vacuum pump for their brakes. Big cams are great, but your power brakes will be null... What cam do you have in the Mustang?

[@GreaserthoughtsGarage]

Hell yeah ben!! When are we going to hit the strip!!

[@evanjenkins263]

yessirrr another mustang video

[@firebreathinggarage2117]

Nothing like brake fluid on the paint. Lesson learned.

[@brucecouturemdl]

The firewall plate that is used is manufactured by Modern Driveline and is normally used with our clutch cable kit, double to reinforce the firewall. www.moderndriveline.com

[@kyleallen438]

Cool video! Please teach your dad how to use a clutch.....just funny

[@joeygarcia2888]

Can u add the plate part link and the master cylinder part link? Awesome mustang btw!

[@TomHappyapril]

Think ill do the same to my 65 mustang, i have the same wilwoods upfront and a summit power booster kit at the moment thats never worked that well....

[@samrotolo7303]

I am really curios about the seat belts over the shoulder. How do you have that rigged up?

[@iyaoyas9225]

Probably a stupid question, but I’m trying to switch over to manual brakes. Can I use the wilwood master cylinder with stock brakes or do I need wilwood brakes with the master cylinder? I plan on upgrading in the future, but I’m not getting much vacuum.

[@alejandrorellana350]

Is better manual wilwood than power brakes wilwood?. I cant understand.

[@Dave-ru2qh]

Please list all the part numbers that you use to get your Wilwood brake system to work. The web has to much confecting info. My brake are to unsafe to drive the car.

[@jimmyrosa2030]

Nice job, very talented. Curious what size lines did you run and did you have to put a residual valve in the front?

[@randythorne4401]

Stock 289? What cam do you have in it. Love your car!!

[@alejandrorellana350]

Whats difference betwen both master cylinders?

[@BB66Coupe]

No part list ? What master cylinder is that ?

[@incredibleadventures1027]

10:43 Girls: "OMG does he even know how to drive?"

[@amx19733]

Great video!!!!

[@lukep126]

Part number for the master?, looking to fit discs to my 65 Falcon, will be needing a dual master cylinder

[@pawenowoczek8462]

Can you send a link to this master cylinder ?

[@curthall4096]

Pretty Cool Build! Save Yourself some Heartache and get Rid of the Crappy Firestone Wide Oval! Tires!

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks…they are radials

[@hunterrogue8591]

Ben where did you get the plate?

[@arturozarate1752]

Awesome how you never got an answer....I'm wondering the same thing.

[@rodfatherschopshop6004]

What is the wheel and tire size? Looks good!

[@exoticsnyc6990]

Just found your channel and love the muscle car content. Im an Euro car guy at heart but recently I bought a C4 6-speed vette for a change and dumped a buncha parts in to it. Goal was to build a daily/canyon carver and last couple of months have been a great build jouney. Im thinking of going manual brakes also but dont want a super stiff pedal. Hows the pedal feel??...is it harder to press down on or similar to power brakes??

[@reyzapata9375]

Hi, I’m Rey from San Fernando Valley. We own a 68 Mustang GT. &, I’m always having trouble with my brake booster. I’ve changed them at least 3 times in 2yrs. And my brake pedals still hit the floor. Are you in the Burbank, Ca. And how easy is it to change out my brake system to manual brakes. I have disc brakes in the front and Drums in the rear. Question: what would you charge me to change out my brake system to manual. 😊🙏🏽👍.