Convoy 3X21D: The BEST VALUE Long-Distance Flashlight!

[@jlappin6277]

I agree your spot on with the LEP‘s. I have the W 35 and the Thor3 they don’t need much power to push them. The Candela is off the charts. What they have to do better, which will come in time is developing a spill. But when it comes to distance, you can’t beat them. On a 21700 you have over 1 million Candella and can run forever. I remember when you did your show on the.Nextorch T20L. That torch had a beautiful hotspot.

[@stst8301]

Received today this masterpiece.The quality is phenomenal and the power gigantic!

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Nice, the new one has a buck driver!

[@TITAN3084]

Is the turbo significant lower, therefore? It's a problem with the updated wurkkos td01c

[@bensebaugh6017]

@@TITAN3084 Is it really though? I don't own the Wurkkos but the difference isn't very noticeable on this Convoy. I was thinking the TD01 difference was below 20% but maintained a much brighter beam. I'm glad I waited for the buck driver before buying this light, and most people with the old one seem to have regrets that they didn't.

[@TITAN3084]

@bensebaugh6017 Yeah, td01c looses about 20 % compared to the non buck version, but holds the turbo for about 1 min longer and is much more stable in other modes (1lumen review). 20 % looks relative much on the paper, but with the eye it's probably barely visible. The problem with the td01c is, that it has already in it's non buck version not so much turbo-lumen (1504 lm after 30 sec) for a 21700 cell flashlight with a sft40 led. So loosing another about 20 % and ending with 1218 lm after 30 sec. is just a a bit disappointing turbo value. With the convoy 3x21D you have at least super much lumens for a single LED thrower, so loosing some for gaining runtime and holding the output longer stable is not as bad, I guess, and also for me the better choice. A comparison with lumen measurements would be still very interesting. And, how much the battery charge and type influences the turbo. At least with the old FET version, you could reach about 1 million cd and 1800 m with molicell p45b, from what I read in the Internet :D

[@jlappin6277]

Thanks for sharing and put on a great show.I just pulled the trigger on this bugger today. Couldn’t resist for the price.it’s capabilities is astonishing.I’m waiting for my Manker MK38 SFT 40 in White to come also this month.my X75 AceBeam with its 70.3,67,000 lm I was playing with last night while walking the dog .

[@DarrenYeoYT]

You're welcome mate, glad you liked the video! That X75 is a beast. I have the imalent MR90 which is insane but I barely use it besides showing friends haha.

[@jlappin6277]

@@DarrenYeoYT good late evening at 2:47 in Australia mate. Sending this to you from New York. Just got finished showing my buddy this video who is a fireman here. I ended up picking up two of these lights and I’m gonna sell him one reluctantly, lol. Today I’m gonna be receiving my Thrunite TN 42 V2 that took me a while to find until a seller put them out there, which there were only nine available. I grabbed one. Darren, I also picked up an amazing light. You really have to look into the Manker MK 35.11 it’s a monster. It’s capable of throwing 2000 m it’s pushing 6000 lm at a whopping 1 million Candella. I just received that I would say a week and a half ago. I picked that up on eBay there was a seller. That light Darren you can get for 258 American dollars and let me tell you something it’s off the charts. It doesn’t throw as far as my K 75, 2.0. but let me tell you what a beautiful torch. Hey by the way my friend from New York to you. Happy new year. Keep on doing the good work your doing a fantastic job🔦💪🔦

[@DarrenYeoYT]

​@@jlappin6277hey mate, you're on holidays in NY? That's awesome, I've never been before but wanna go. I'll have a look at that Manker light. Has the same SBT90.2 as in this Convoy. I think the size of the reflector is a big factor in the throw specs, especially once the lumen output has been maxed out with 20A or whatever it is. That's why that K75 can throw so far. putting a CSLNM1 in there could probably reach 3km or something 😂 thanks for your support!

[@jlappin6277]

@@DarrenYeoYT Always my pleasure brother.The Manker MK 35 -11 has a throw of 2000 m. with a 6000 lm output it holds four 18650 Hydram, Batteries. The head and reflector are absolutely gorgeous and extremely large. I have to say Darren the Nightcore TM 39 that I picked up 2 1/2 months ago with its LED screen is also a work of art. It doesn’t quite push out as far as the Manker, it’s capabilities are right about 1600 m. But the beam on the Nightcore is absolutely stunning. I have that in the short body . Today I just received the Thrunite TN42 V2. My wife thinks I’m crazy, but that’s OK. I’ve always loved flashlights. As they say in New York it is what it is. I love my K 75 2.0. The only thing that’s a pain in the ass is taking out the batteries to recharge them. I almost bought the older model because I found the looks on that to be nicer. They also didn’t change any of the specs on the 2.0, but I figured I might as well go with the new model so I went that route. I also picked up not to bore you lol The new AceBeam W 35 which is a blast but I still love my 90.2 lights a heck of a lot better. Keep up the good work mate you do a great job on your productions and once again happy new year to you. Please check out that Manker MK 35 -11. I picked that one up on eBay. It ran me $255 .💪🔦💪

[@jlappin6277]

@@DarrenYeoYT it is a great thrower. It’s no doubt a beast. I’ll tell you Darren but I’d like to get next is the A1 from Wuben. with four90.2 admitters, that things a monster. But yes, you’re right the K 75 is a beautiful torch

[@cosminstefanpuie8313]

Mi 3X21D is on the way. Thanks for the review ✌️✌️

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Good choice! You're welcome mate.

[@cosminstefanpuie8313]

​@@DarrenYeoYTGot the FET Driver model and the new constant current version on the way, going to make a video compare between them 😁😁

[@ansarogu]

Brilliant video (lol), i just ordered this puppy today. My first SBT90.2 light, not worried about the short turbo but i wish it came in some funky color options fir the body.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Nice mate, going straight for the lumen monsters I see 😂 I got most of that out my system now and mainly use 18650 lights. This one is great in a bag though.

[@TITAN3084]

16:46 A little donut is visible, like probably with all strong throwers with not round LED´s, i assume? Do you also have a some fogging at the reflector, if you turn you flashlight on (low) and watch the reflector?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Didn't notice fogging on low, only on higher modes. Donut holes are mostly to do with the focusing of the reflector. Sometimes they are not the right width/length based on the specifications of the LED die size. There's some program that manufacturers use that's expensive to purchase apparently

[@TITAN3084]

@DarrenYeoYT yeah, the fogging seems to be common on convoy reflectors - I even found a reddit discussion about this. Assuming to Simon, the chef of convoy, it's normal, happens during electroplating. Nethertenless I haven't seen SMO reflectors from another flashlight company, with this "fog" or let's say inperfection. Would be interesting, how much promill or percentage it takes away. Ah, OK - interesting. So you suppose that it is probably not calculated right, if there is a donut. Would be interesting, what is wrong, maybe just the distance to the reflectors / the spacer 😅

[@morominaolenmina]

Hey! could you help me i have a convoy 3x21D. the torch lights up, but the key doesn't work. cannot turn off the light or change the brightness. where could be the problem? also, when I try to charge the flashlight, the light comes on when charging! is it normal??

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Hmm, do you mean the button doesn't work? Check and clean all the contacts on the head, battery tube. But sounds like there's a fault in yours. I'd recommend contacting Simon to sort something out. Where did you buy it from?

[@morominaolenmina]

@@DarrenYeoYT oh and btw, where can i find Simon on aliexpress? What IS her store name?

[@jonskitch8082]

I prefer this than L8 - batteries easily available.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Yeah and longer runtime too

[@roycegunardi2343]

I have a mc13ii with the 90.2, I think I need this as well.

[@stst8301]

Hi! In the ramping mode,if it goes all the way up to max output that is the same output as turbo? Or if you double click for turbo is brighter?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Same as turbo.

[@alagappasgostan9982]

Is it compulsory for them to make this alloy flashlight this big to be cylindrical (battery compartment)i am waiting for them to make like eveready dolphin shape.maybe combining both material like pistol composit with alloy.still not willing to pay more for this size segment until they are square at battery storage.😅

[@alagappasgostan9982]

But i still bought smaller size(single/series configuration) battery type.its just each new heavyweight flashlight come with same shape.(i own lots of them and kind of stop at some point)only cheap brand /smaller size going to that direction.(maybe they are experimenting new material or just stop there.is it just me thinking weird than everyone else?😢😅

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Rectangular battery would potentially allow 4 cells as well.

[@michaeljames5851]

Any way to tell when the batteries are sufficiently charged or how long it should take? I have the molicel option and when I plug it in the red button lights up solid and remains on.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

It should turn green when fully charged!

[@michaeljames5851]

@@DarrenYeoYT thank you!

[@TITAN3084]

With my 3x21D (new buck-driver-version), there is no difference between the highest brightness (regardless if smooth or stepped brightness levels) and turbo. Is this normal?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Yeah normal. 100% and turbo are the same.

[@AudibleVisibIe]

Was thinking about getting this but I have an L8 that I really like. Prolly just stick w that

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Mate if you're happy with your L8, save the cash, they're quite similar in performance by the 3x21D throws further.

[@watzegjemedaarnouvan]

should a 14 year old have a thor 3 or should i ge trid of it since danger

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Lol depends on the 14 yo

[@watzegjemedaarnouvan]

@ me i need to convince my mother i can keep it i know she just dose it for my own saftey

[@jlappin6277]

I forgot to say we live in New York. We live up by Westpoint. That’s located I would say an hour and 15 minutes from Manhatin.

[@chuckpeters1]

If buying the batteries when ordering the light from convoy.. which batteries do you recommend?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Molicel P42A or Samsung 40T - both high drain and decent capacity.

[@terrygroth2987]

​@DarrenYeoYT the P45B and P50B are both options as well. Wouldn't these offer a longer runtime or would you stay with the P42A and what reason? Thanks in advance.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Hi Terry, those are just as good too. I'd probably get the P50B over the lot as it has 60A discharge and 5000mAh!

[@morominaolenmina]

Is this better thrower and it has mote lumens compare to convoy L8? Do you think this is best thower under 100 dollars??

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Yes and yes when comparing to the L8. I think it's great value and I trust convoy as I have so many of their lights. The guy above seems to have found a good deal though, but I haven't owned any pioneman lights myself so can't say much.

[@morominaolenmina]

Oukey thank you very much For your answer and btw awesome video!!🙂👍👍👍

[@be4885]

It looks like there is a dark hole in the middle of the hotspot it looks like a donut i think should use osram w1,w2 leds instead sbt90. 2 so that the hotspot isn't donut shaped and gives a 3time brighter beam than sbt90.2, but 5 times less lumen and 1.7 times more 1816m becomes 2500+m less power, less heat, higher performance

[@DarrenYeoYT]

That could work as an alternate version of this light. Would have great sustained output as well due to the heatsinking.

[@quintinwhite8653]

Have you tested the lumen and candela numbers for this light? Love the review!

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Candela is in the middle of the review somewhere - in graph. Think I measured close to 2km throw.

[@quintinwhite8653]

Yep I saw that right after I commented haha. Thanks for the reply! Love your reviews!

[@Patricio-e4u]

Amigo essa lanterna tem o modo de memória?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Yes it does, it will turn on in the last mode you used. Even turbo

[@youtubeuser5424]

Almost bought this, but i went with the L8 instead because it seems to hold its turbo output longer than the 21D.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Yes you're right, the L8 has better sustained output but puts out less light. I made a comparison of both of these lights. Will be out soon.

[@be4885]

​@@DarrenYeoYT brightness is very similar to l8 5400lumen 1330meter lumen 3x21D 5500lumen 1716 meter distance 3x21D only the reflector is bigger and deeper and new driver

[@WildCaptures]

Wow tomorrows sale has this light priced at 82.27 USD on ALI 😮

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Oh man, great deal!!!

[@ennn6582]

i Wonder how these will look compared to the Nightcore P30i

[@DarrenYeoYT]

This is way brighter and with a larger hotspot. The P30i may have longer sustained output thought.

[@larryc1616]

vs P35i

[@be4885]

​@@DarrenYeoYTvs nicecore tm39 sbt90. 2 or astrolux mf05

[@Taras-Nabad]

Nice video.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Cheers!

[@nicodimus2222]

Wow, those runtime charts are disappointing. It seems this is a light to be used 60 seconds at a time.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Yes it steps down at 1min... Interesting that the L8 steps down at 2 mins, though it's pumping out less light.

[@avgrim7729]

I could use a handle like that for my Haikelite HK05 5 SFN60 30,000 lumen. Thing gets hot very fast on high and turbo!!

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Wow, it must have some decent sustained output :D I have the Imalent MR90 and it becomes impossible to hold after awhile... Unless you hold it near the end

[@Hitech82]

Can you bounce the beam off the moon 🌙 😅

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Haha I don't think we're quite there yet, maybe with a laser

[@STEVEREEVES4444]

Noctigon k1

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Next best thing to an LEP

[@Nviron007]

Take a look "roit heeyuh" I need to go watch That kiwi whale video: beached as again lol

[@DarrenYeoYT]

😅😂 thought I had a fairly mild Aussie accent but I'm from WA so it does go bogan every now and then

[@TannerCBrooks]

Flashlight will illuminate objects a mile away and you demonstrate it by throwing 100yds across a river….

[@DarrenYeoYT]

At the time with time constraints that was the only location I could reach. If I get a chance, I'll do some more later.

[@TannerCBrooks]

@@DarrenYeoYThey you don’t owe me anything man. I apologize for commenting prematurely. You demonstrated the ability of the light a lot better later in the video.

[@PattiPoss]

yeah ive been wanting a light that uses this LED chip but yeah i got the SOFIRN Q8 PLUS and i love that ligh so bright and throws pretty good not as good as these lights but still very good for only 75.00 dollars with batteries so yeah thanks for sharing brother

[@DarrenYeoYT]

They have a buck driver version of this light now that's better in my opinion :D

[@PattiPoss]

@@DarrenYeoYT sweet thanks fr letting me know brother also hows it like living over in the OUTBACK lol or where ever it is that you live at im sure you dont have to deal with crazy people all the time lol or drug addicts like in the US and expecailly in NEW YORK shit is so sad i dont know not one person besides family members that arnt on drugs my sister is and evereyone else i know is but theres a couple people i know that arnt on drugs or are loosers lol i could only wish to know what it would be like to live in a country where they dont even yell at each other lol and where all people are welcome now i know it cost allot of money tyo live over there and thats something my amily never had is money and im glad because we grew up so close and we lived under bridges and everything whole family living in tents and stuff not because we where drug addicts but because we where all poor and we where enjoying out liuves being free of society until we got older and the cops started to harrase us all the time for doing nohing and we had to grow up and get jobs jst to servive and have food for the day and still do so i could only wish to know what its liek to live like you do

[@PattiPoss]

now this is a light

[@PattiPoss]

lol people around here will call the cops if your out at night in parks lol

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Wouldn't be the first time 😂