Cooper Discoverer ATT - Testing Part 1 - Tiguan 5n2 4motion

[@artrecords7196]

1:26 cual tiene mayor durabilidad y aguanta mas kilómetros para un uso mixto 30% off road - 70% on road? Discoverer att o Latitude Cross?

[@doomyro]

Discoverer att !!! All the way !

[@danielsogor]

Salut. Le-as pune pe un Suzuki Grand Vitara din 2014, dar le-as folosi si iarna, pe cateva site-uri sunt catalogate ca All Season, dar oare sunt ele recomandate pentru iarna?

[@doomyro]

Le-am folosit si iarna doar pentru teste si sunt mediocre pe zapada si destul de proaste pe gheata.Daca vrei cu performanta pentru gheata iti trebuie Discoverer AT3 4S

[@tuleon2]

Did you noticed any difference betwen the two tires (ATT, Latitude cross)? On road wet, dry performance, noise? thanks

[@doomyro]

Yes , coopers are better on all kinds of terrain , including wet breaking and corner handling , the consumption also has decreased by 0.8 liters/100km , but that could be from reducing the diameter. I will do a follow up video soon with 5000km feedback on the cooper tyres.

[@milanvrana472]

@@doomyro why do you put the smaller diameter 235/60 R17? I have the prescribed tyre size 245/70 R16 on my Sorento, doesn't the Cooper Discoverer ATT 245/70 R16 111H XL actually have a larger diameter than the Michelin LATITUDE CROSS 245/70 R16 111 H XL, DT? Will they fit in my fenders?

[@doomyro]

@@milanvrana472 i used the smaller size to lower the stress on the front differential , the bigger tyres would have destroyed it eventually. I can't temm if they will fit.

[@radugenis9698]

Salut. In continuare ai un feedback bun despre ele? Ele au marcajul m+s pentru a fi legale si iarna?

[@doomyro]

Sunt deja la al doilea set probabil o sa continui tot cu ele, am deja peste 100k facuti cu astfel de anvelopee , au M+S dar nu merg la mai putin de 0 grade ! Le lipseste semnul cu muntele si 3 fulgi asa ca legale de iarna nu sunt. Am anvelope dedicate de iarna.

[@radugenis9698]

@@doomyro in consecinte iarna trebuie un set dedicat? Ce recomanzi?

[@doomyro]

@@radugenis9698 In mod clar , trebuie anvelope de iarna dedicate ! Nici o anvelopa AT de pe piata nu are performantele pentru iarna necesare pentru sezonul rece.

[@elmachocamacho]

Hi from Spain. I'm in dubt with this two wheels. In the past I loved my lattitude cross in my Subaru XV. Now, I like to fit the Cooper Discoverer ATT in my 2017 Outback. ¿Whats your opinion? The Cooper tyre perfumes well in wet Roads? Thanks

[@doomyro]

Hi there , in my opinion the Coopers are above the Michelins in every chapter , The coopers on wet roads , hyghway and mud perform as expected for a tyre of this category , but you can't compare it with a standard road tyre on wet terrain. When a tyre is in AT category , it has a bit of everything , the key is a perfect ballance between road handling , cornering, wet roads and Offroad , and i think the coopers nailed it .

[@elmachocamacho]

@@doomyro thanks Dude!

[@elmachocamacho]

@@doomyro Thans Dude!!

[@forestroadexplorer]

Can you tell me the real diameter of the tire, horizontal measurement. Planning on getting this tyre to my caravan. And what is the maximum airpressure on this? Thank you.

[@doomyro]

728 milimeters end to end when it was new at 2.4 bar or 35 psi , max is 3.2 bar or 46 psi.

[@luigiVR257]

Salut , am vazut ca att Cooper sunt 60/40, cum le-ai descrie in utilizarea lor cotidiana, gen autostrada, drumuri forestiere, nationale, ploaie? Le-as cumpara exclusiv pentru vara, insa vreau sa stiu daca se merita pentru versalitatea lor in conditii de drum normale, in sensul daca merg pe ploaie pe autostrada , nu se duc sanie ca bf goodrich ko2? Multumesc pentru raspunsul tau. Ai castigat un abonat👍

[@doomyro]

Salut , Pentru mine setul de Cooper este Exclusiv pentru vara , a vazut putin zapada si frig doar asa de test dar in rest doar Vara , iarna nu este de joaca cu astfel de anvelope asa ca am set dedicat. Zgomotul pentru acestea este identic cu o anvelopa de iarna . Comportamentul pe autostrada este foarte ok franare/stabilitate in curbe. Am atins maxim 180kmh cu ele de test si nu au fost probleme , dar dupa 150 in sus nu se mai simt lafel de stabile ca unul dedicat de vara. Pe noroi mi se par exceptionale , lafel si pe suprafete umede , pe ploaie torentiala nu am avut probleme nici la franare nici pe curbe. Intr-adevar se simte ca se poate mai bine , dar la categoria C care o au mi se par super bune ! Trebuie sa te obisnuiesti cu comportamentul unei astfel de anvelope , daca treci de pe una stock de vara pe una ATT o sa ai un soc :) , dar te vei obisnui cu timpul . Trebuie sa ai in vedere ca anvelopele au aproape 2.2KG in plus per bucata , la motoare sub 170cp vei simti diferenta la plecare de pe loc si la consum , dar te vei obisnui. Ca am pomenit de consum , aici sa nu ai asteptari prea mari , mi-a crescut media cu 1.5% cu anvelopele Cooper

[@luigiVR257]

Multumesc pentru raspunsul tau, eu am un duster 4x4 si am anvelope mixte care sunt ok pentru autostrada insa nu pot merge cu ele in offroad. Cooper att am vazut ca ar fi cele mai de ‘’strada’’dintre anvelopele cu acest profil, daca mai ai si alte sfaturi in a ma ajuta sa aleg o anvelopa on-ofroad ti-as fi recunoscator🙏🏻

[@doomyro]

@@luigiVR257 Daca vrei sa le folosesti strict vara , iti recomand aceste anvelope , am facut research vreo 4 luni inainte sa le cumpar si cam asta poti sa iei bestbuy raport calitate pret. Limita de 60/40 este cea mai echilibrata dupa parerea mea , deja pierzi mult in alte capitole daca te duci la 50/50 sau mai sus....... alte branduri care ti le-as recomanda depasesc pretul acestei anvelope cu peste 25% cum ar fi ContinentalCrossContact ATR , sau PIRELLI Scorpion All Terrain Plus . Chiar daca sunt mai scumpe au si E la indice pe umed, asa ca eu consider cooper un best buy raportat calitate pret.

[@luigiVR257]

@@doomyro Da, strict pentru vara, utilizare 80/20 on-ofroad, multumesc pentru sfatul tau👍. Cat mai multe expeditii frumoase iti doresc.

[@wdr01]

@@luigiVR257 Iti recomand Continetal ATR daca vrei un at bun de strada.

[@raymondknickelbein5207]

Hi I have a 2009 tiguan sport & style 4motion auto with 235/50-18 I wanna change to a set of at rims and tires but not sure what size to go for.. the agents say I must keep to the vw spec outer diameter of the tire. So that's means I need to run a a 235/55-17 but I seen you running 235/60-17, has that cause any problems with your 4motion or traction control system

[@doomyro]

I don't recomend 100% AT tyres on the 4motion system of the tiguan , the coopers are 60% onroad and 40% offroad . I even had 235 65 R17 and now the 235 60 R17 (Coopers) , The engineers that told you that know something but not the entire story , the maximum radial diameter permited by this generation of ABS/ESP system is 740 milimeters , i had 737mm on 235 67 R17 , and came down to 714 on the coopers 235 60 R17 , i think it's the best propotion of tyresize for this particular vehicle. No problems , no lights , only needed to adjust the headlights to the new ride height. Full 100% AT tyres cause problems on the 4m system because of the ESP the front open diff that is very sensitive.

[@raymondknickelbein5207]

@@doomyro thanks for the speedy response, yea I'm not going for a full AT, I'm looking for a 60/40 tire as I mostly do on road driving I just need a decent tire for the weekend trips. I'm also trying to find a decent tire that will give me decent mileage as well.. And just a question I'm not 2nd guessing you but where did you get your information regarding the over all tire diameter. I'm just so nervous I brake something on my tiguan 🤦‍♂️

[@doomyro]

@@raymondknickelbein5207 I got the information from the OBD ODIS program parameters. In the ABS module at the speedometer calibration setting the maximum value that can be enterd is 740 units ( deducted in milimeters) thus the maximum tyre diameter supported by the ABS system. In this module you cand adjust the speedometer to the actual tyre size you are using. Factory standard is 6% off the real speed . The speedometer shows 6% more than the actual speed of the car. Good Mileage and AT tyres don't come toghether , you are more likely to find the tooth fairy than to find a good mpg AT tyre.

[@raymondknickelbein5207]

@@doomyro ok cool, well then that sounds pretty spot on then, now another question I see you running the facelift tiguan and mine is the pre facelift that came out with the normal auto not the dsg auto would this make a difference at all.. Lol yea I know mileage is a thing but hell I fitted a set of goodyear's about 2years ago and i only got 16k km's and the tires are finished like really warn down, i see some brands are offering 60k to 100k km warranty on there's tires so if i can get at least 50k km on a set of tires I'll be more than happy

[@doomyro]

@@raymondknickelbein5207 The car will feel heavier due to the increased weight and size of the tyres. But you will get used to that . 50K kilometers is the maximum you cand get from any AT tyre , including the coopers.

[@edyedm4964]

Oooo incaltari noi vrem și noi 👍

[@GeoRS7]

What is your opinion regarding the Discoverer ATT, compering to the Latitude cross;

[@doomyro]

Hi there , in my opinion the Coopers are above the Michelins in every chapter. On wet roads , highway and mud perform as expected for a tyre of this category , but you can't compare it with a standard road tyre on wet terrain. When a tyre is in AT category , it has a bit of everything , the key is a perfect ballance between road handling , cornering, wet roads and Offroad , and i think the Coopers nailed it .

[@GeoRS7]

@@doomyro Thank you, 226/65/16 the Latitude is marked as C-C. The Discoverer as C-E. What is your opinion;

[@GeoRS7]

Δε 215/65/16

[@doomyro]

@@GeoRS7 Michellins are simple all season tyres, the coopers are rated AT and are reinforced. Depends on what you want to do with the car.

[@GeoRS7]

@@doomyro For sure we start our daily use from asphalt. Also asphalt highways and twist roads arei the beginning to any destination. During summer, rocks, sand, rill, dirt. During winter some snow ❄️ and a lot rain 🌧️. All of them with full family load.

[@Luciferovic]

How satisfied where you with Latitude cross, and would you recommend them? How many km did they last with you?

[@doomyro]

Check this video out for more information : kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnjQiKl3acSDaNU&ab_channel=DoomY The Michelins are below the Coopers in every chapter , i had the michelins for 40k kilometers , about 50% wear. Now that i got the feeling with the Coopers , i wouldn't recomend the Michelins.

[@bodhisattva6244]

Do you upgraded the struts as well? I got some cooper AT3 235/65/17. Will the lift springs be enough?

[@doomyro]

I got new OE track&field ones , your tyre size woun't fit on OE Shocks, maximum that the tiguan 5n can handle is 235 65 R17 with 10 mm spacers. Any higher than that and you need serious trimming the fender liners.

[@bodhisattva6244]

@@doomyro thank you so much Amazing vids BTW 👌

[@22Sasha02]

Salut! Câți km ai acum cu anvelopele astea? Poți face o comparație între astea și Latitude cross? Pe care le-ai folosi pentru daily commute și Weekend escape? Multumesc.

[@doomyro]

Salut , Am peste 20.000 cu ele , sunt net superioare Michelinului latitude Cross , nu m-as mai intoarce la Michelin , cooper All The Way . Ce este de stiut , astfel de anvelope Michelin sau cooper rar te tin mai mult de 40.000km , ajung la semnul limita cam in jurul acelor KM - adica la 3 mm limita de jos. Cooper se duc aprox 1mm la fiecare 5000km , testat si masurat periodic , pentru ca pregatesc info pentru un alt video.

[@denomreget]

Salutare, le recomanzi pe un Mitsubishi Outlander 2.2?

[@doomyro]

Depinde la ce vrei sa folosesti masina si ce pondere ai tu oras/afara.

[@denomreget]

@@doomyro oras 90% iar cele 10% off road pe pietre ascutite si drum forestier

[@denomreget]

@@doomyro chiar azi am facut pana cu cele de vara " obisnuite"

[@doomyro]

@@denomreget vei creste consumul cu 1.5% in medie , sunt mult mai grele ca cele normale. In rest sunt foarte ok , eu nu as mai reveni la anvelope normale. Recent am luat 3 cuie in ele si nici unul nu a strapuns anvelopa .

[@edyedm4964]

Merg numai pe 4*4 sau........

[@doomyro]

Sunt prea grele pentru cele fara 4x4. Dar ele merg.