Copper Recovery From Massive Generator Stator

[@brian56]

Steve hit the big time! In the thumbnail!

[@ProjectShopFl]

😂😂😂

[@GregWildCardHoddy]

G'mornin!! For stresses on stator cutter, You might want to take a comparison look at your other dead fork lift. Might get some clues from chain gears and ram on front of the lift.🤔

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@danielcooke7911]

May not always see the vision but we all know if we had to bet on the outcome, you lads are always gonna find a way to make it work! Happy days and part of the interest is the process, we know your gonna get the copper but it’s the how that keeps us watching! Happy days 🎉🎉

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks

[@AdamW-tx]

Lookin' good. Nothing beats a kludged together machine. Ripping out copper, cutting stuff in half. I love it!

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks 👍

[@philkrueger5961]

I greatly appreciate your hard work and knowledge about tool use and making your own diy equipement. This makes me want to get off my rocking chair and get to work.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks!

[@walter2990]

Thanks for showing me how I can do the bigger units, with less effort!

[@ProjectShopFl]

👊👍

[@TimberTramp]

Need an arm, welded to the top of the cutter frame and able to come down through and quickly pin for height. Then the wedged on pieces could be pressed right off your blade.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@chrislangowski4438]

I do these with a 7" angle grinder. Cut the copper around one side the use the claw end of a hammer hitting and pulling the copper out of the side with the steel. if it sticks I free it up with a blunt chisel.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for sharing

[@SuperRashead]

Nice work. Now you can do these in all kind of sizes! Love this!

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks!

[@SuperRashead]

@@ProjectShopFl You are welcome!

[@markrice3502]

oh man that split them just like hot butter for sure i think it made it alot easyer to get the copper out too thanks for shareing

[@ProjectShopFl]

👍👍👍

[@steveberry2609]

Man, awesome job on the splitter .. butt I take those smaller motors, after u cut the one side of with a Sawzall.. I just crap the copper with channel locks an hit the steel with a happer.. comes right out.. but the big motors.. I daknow man.. but u Daman man

[@ProjectShopFl]

The smaller ones are definitely easier when split but the big ones are a different story I would not want to do it with out the hydraulics

[@brian56]

I wonder if a stop parallel to the stator would index it in the same cut sort of like the fence on a tablesaw

[@ProjectShopFl]

Possibly thanks for the suggestion

[@sethblue2092]

Thanks for another upload letting all of us be there with y'all working in the shop. Appreciate ya. I'm sure you have about 10 millions of ideas and improvements you could see working or plausible every minute you're watching your machine working on the job. I was wondering if you'd ever visualized the machine flipped upside down. Kinda like a table saw and not at all like a table saw at the same time. Approaching the split from underneath pushing the cutter up and through the "job." Might work pretty decent for sure on the chain vise holding method I heard you mention using. Could probably even fabricate you some different jigs for different sized stators to place on top and secure with the chain vise. It be a solid hold and also easy to unclamp rotate the job and repeate. The cutter would less likely to be damaged too since it'd be backing out of the job not pulling away from it. One more unqualified idea. Is you're cutter a wedge (spreader) in design or like a paper cutter (slicer) with a flat side and the other honed down half wedge to a semi-thin super sharp point? Anyways I appreciate you and Steve. Thanks.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestions. The blade will be a larger version of what I have now.

[@joenewman6939]

Some of your ideas are iffy but I love it you always get them to work out in the end

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks!

[@floydwilliams3321]

Yeah, after seeing you pull it out of the press, you would have to have something to hold it better also tricky

[@ProjectShopFl]

It is still in the prototype stage

[@25vrd48]

You are getting there , trial and error . Rome wasn't built in a day nor was stator and rotor extractors . Awesome results so far Derek , stay safe and don't give up .

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks!

[@ВикторКальсков-г3у]

сделай отверстия по бокам стойки , продень их прутком через статор и вытягивай нож . И не надо с цепью заморачиваться.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@TimberTramp]

What about modifying and using a wood splitter to split them?

[@ProjectShopFl]

What I have planed it is a similar concept.

[@kenny2644]

Epic video! The small blade is perfect for the small stators just need a wide blade for the big stators and you could split both kinds in one go! Awesome work! Now you just need a full time supply of big motors and wire! 😉

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks!

[@rockman531]

Hi Derek, An idea - once the donuts are in the press... paint some oil on the inside. The paper sleeves will soak up the oil and dissolve some of the shellac. Should make pulling a little easier. Great video. Thumbs up! Safety first. Jim

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks Jim!

[@amjmmint4786]

You ever walk into a retail store where they have those pegboard panels with the wire rods for hanging depths of packets or whatever? As you're working with heavier stators you might want to consider that kind of leverage and make a quick remove safety bar hangs across the lower part. The way those odd sheets connect the two pieces of chopped stator got my spidey sense tingling. You start gettin bold on that thing, it's a lot of weight coming free, I'm sure you get a little eagle-eyed about the end of that split. Thinkin of the times you might be doin this work solo, you might catch one, but if it drags the other and that steel hooks the arm or anything, could be serious. Loose heavy things that roll are a cause for composite-toe boots, things happen, consider a crossbar, shouldn't need to be too heavy. Far as the little ones, still thinkin about that one. Best I can think of for now would look something like an eyelash trimmer the size of that puller plier, but with some nails welded about the arc to get under the windings. Two toothed arcs on a scissor and that new double V-clamp setup. idk if the more even pull would strain the gear or make it easier, that's a trial n error to be seen. Or now that I think about it maybe something like a modified bearing puller.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion, I still have a few upgrades to do for holding the big stators.

[@guiseppecapritto7577]

HEY BUDDY, GOOD VIDEO LIKE USUAL! want you can do with the smals one is loop the on both sides of the holes and inside the the cooper to hold it will you pull it out, just a idea!! good

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@richardriach5775]

Have you considered turning the whole splitting assy 90 degrees. Then you could pull the copper windings out while it is still retained in place by the blade

[@richardriach5775]

As they are cut I mean . There shouldn’t be too much force on the blade if you leave it in place

[@ProjectShopFl]

If I could get the press to hold them that would be a good ida but I would not want to be pulling on that $500 blade some of the stators pull real hard.

[@greekgods3399]

love it

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks! 👍

[@peteoneill5799]

You have got to be real careful with those puller handles if you get a finger or hand in there you will be going to hospital. Great vid as usual. Loving the setup

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the concern

[@JustinGrosz]

Plasma cut a couple plus signs on the table like tow trucks have on flat beds to lock chains into. No need for vice.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@Yadhav28]

love your video❤please do some micro scrapping😢love from Mauritius island❤

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks I will

[@murlbailer3755]

It’s just scrap.😮 I thought it was going to fly out. 👍

[@ProjectShopFl]

😂😂😂

[@StivNagen]

Would heating the copper from inside the coil with a propane torch before attempting to pull the copper make it come out easier by softening the shellac?

[@ProjectShopFl]

Yes but I should not have to do that when splitting them in half

[@davidbofin2658]

Awesome, viewing from County SLIGO Ireland 🇮🇪 🇺🇦🤠🚲📷✍

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks! 👊

[@larrylong6268]

If you split them longitudinal instead of circumferential you could roll them out decreasing the friction on the wire.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@larrylong6268]

@@ProjectShopFl I hope it works and helps you.

[@Floridabruce1960]

Dumb question... 🤔 How do they get all that copper wound up in there in the first place?

[@ProjectShopFl]

From the videos I've seen by hand. It is actually pretty cool to see.

[@eby6114]

You might not have to change much. You know the blade isn't the only thing that can move. You could have another press up pushing the stators into the blade...you'd still have the speed issue but maybe less work... I love the press already. Can't wait for the big blade

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks I plan on getting better hydraulics

[@charlesyates6687]

Double roller shredder on emu 1400

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks!

[@FrankRoden-wm2lm]

You guys are a piece of work ..Its scrap ..Why don't you flip the coil over and cut from the other side....You guys make it sound like a rocket science !!

[@ProjectShopFl]

@@FrankRoden-wm2lm have you ever tried pulling the copper out of a large stater? Some of them are not as easy as it may seem the copper is glued in place, splitting it in half makes it twice as easy to come out.

[@KamuiPan]

You should make a longer blade so it can cut those large generator on 1 stroke instead of many. Just a viewer tip.

[@ProjectShopFl]

It is already in the works.

[@ProjectShopFl]

It's already in the works.

[@rubblefather]

How about flipping it so the blade comes from the bottom?

[@ProjectShopFl]

Interesting idea thanks.

[@Guitar101Smasher]

I know you love your sketchy stuff but this is next level 🤕🤣

[@ProjectShopFl]

😂😂😂 Thanks!

[@floydwilliams3321]

The tool you’re using the pool with I would make another tool that has several of those teeth on it so you could pull uniformly probably cut down on your time tremendously

[@ProjectShopFl]

I don't think it's that easy. Trying to pull it all at once will be too much.

[@scrappingonthefly77]

Hell yeah big boy shit ! Probably gonna be easier to pull the copper from the smaller motors by hand once they're split

[@ProjectShopFl]

Some were easy some needed the puller

[@Frogdog0007]

Have you ever thought about getting a cheap forge to melt the copper in to ingots, you'll get more money for the copper

[@ProjectShopFl]

I have one. I've made a few videos on it and a few live streams

[@Frogdog0007]

@@ProjectShopFl Aaah ok bro i'll look later

[@richardball9724]

Instead of a chain vice just weird a beefy tab with a slot that will take a chain link on its side and wield a length of chain to other side

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@jefft1122]

If you cut the little ropes with a hook blade they will come out easier

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@garrettmillard525]

13:30 It doesn't have any force on the up stroke? Just put two pieces of metal in between stator and top V, it would push itself off on up stroke..? Also think you may need a "U" instead of a "V" on that bottom to avoid deforming the small ones...

[@ProjectShopFl]

On the first split it is wedged in tight and thanks for the suggestion

[@garrettmillard525]

@@ProjectShopFl Hell yeah man. Awesome seeing this come together. I can't imagine what I'd be thinking if I walked past the shop and just saw that big ass blade on that big ass machine. So cool. Also, in terms of the top "V"/"U", for smaller stators, are you just gonna pop it right into the blade holder?

[@ssweeps]

Use the plasma cutter on everything.

[@ProjectShopFl]

I would but Steave burned up the tips.

[@quicker8885]

Make a four way gripper so you can make it whit one pull time in video 41 min 👍

[@ProjectShopFl]

It might work on the loose ones but some are hard to pull and have to do one strain at a time.

[@MajaZuzia]

make the blade rotatable, if one side gets blunt, turn it to the other and you will have continuous work, and you can sharpen it after the job;

[@hgghgguk]

it is alrddy lol

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks!

[@shanegenx7519]

how profitable are stators compared to wire stripping or transformers in turns of hr rate?

[@ProjectShopFl]

I don't know I will log it next time I get a bunch

[@eby6114]

Goes to the scrap yard. Hey you got any AC compressors I can buy. I ran out of oil 😂. I'm kidding my friend

[@ProjectShopFl]

😂😂😂

[@محمدغازي-و2ف5ط]

Good evening my friend, I want to start a project to separate and sort metals from the electric motor. How much operator space do I need and is your operator space sufficient?

[@ProjectShopFl]

It depends on how big you want to be, if I was just doing electric motors why space would be fine bet I have a lot going on and need a bigger space.

[@محمدغازي-و2ف5ط]

Thanks for the answer

[@steveg5576]

I could do that cause I know how to pick crabs !

[@ProjectShopFl]

👍👍👍

[@RedWhiteBlueYo]

What's the total amount paid out in scrap per big boy motor like that?

[@ProjectShopFl]

I will track that on the next one.

[@jasonholloway998]

Hopefully you know at what point in the video I comment. Cut that in one spot press it flat and everything should fall out!

[@ProjectShopFl]

I don't think flatting is gonna be good as it might free some up but it will pinch others

[@usocrazy6133]

Your hydraulic cylinder is backwards. It will have more power if you can configure the cylinder to push instead of pull.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks I know I'm not done with the build.

[@usocrazy6133]

@@ProjectShopFl Love the videos.

[@joenewman6939]

That blade should be like 2 feet long with no point like a gelatin so it stays in the same slot the point doesn't stay in the same slot when it hits the table thats why it crushes it

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@wszechmocnieuzdolniony]

Pozdrawiam serdecznie z Polski 🇵🇱👍👍👍 good job 👍👍👍

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks!

[@Kreacher1974]

Would a 4in piece of steel stock with a slot cut into it work

[@ProjectShopFl]

Probably would

[@niko5044]

Love your videos!! I'd love to ask you some questions. I own my own scrap metal company

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks you can email me @ [e-mail]

[@niko5044]

@@ProjectShopFl I sent you an email a couple days ago. I really really appreciate you taking your time to read it!

[@tallstacker]

then u get alot or prepared steel to

[@ProjectShopFl]

Yes!

[@jasonholloway998]

Cut that stator in one spot splay it flat . Try that in a future video.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@DaydreamerFishing]

I have never held a stader in my hand but why do you cut the steel part? Why not let that machine cut off the back end of the copper where the steel ends like where you cut it with a blade. That machine would go through that like butter

[@pvandewyngaerde]

2 smaller parts to pull the copper out.

[@ProjectShopFl]

On the big ones sometimes pilling through so much steel is a problem and I've had to burn them in the past. splitting them makes it so easy

[@Stalkerrob20]

The biggest problem is the dimensions of your blade aren't even, your probably getting the best cut you can already.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks!

[@waseemahmed8489]

Can you buy one machine made in China only 10 minutes all prosise anyway nice video thanks

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks

[@lofty822]

The fact you have to reach over the table to turn on/off the splitter is a bit....dangerous? cool shit tho

[@ProjectShopFl]

I have to reach to change the direction I have a foot pedal for on and off

[@lofty822]

@@ProjectShopFl aight brother, i was just worried about you

[@ProjectShopFl]

@@lofty822 Thanks!

[@IvanDanskin]

whe notjust cut one side of the copper off and use the puller to get the rest of the copper

[@ProjectShopFl]

Because it sometimes is extremely hard to pull the cope from the big stators and splitting them in the middle makes half as hard.

[@silverlicious2086]

Hey Derek. Missed another live stream. I sent you an email a week ago. Check it out. Thanks man!

[@ProjectShopFl]

Ok I will thanks!

[@williamdawson3353]

Does not look like a cost effective system.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the feed back

[@AdamW-tx]

Not yet. He's still working out the kinks. This is Version 1.3 Withhold judgement until the final production line.

[@andrewhowe7398]

That Steve done some serious drugs though the years 😂top vid as allways

[@campervan-john]

I think he's still on them 😂

[@ProjectShopFl]

😂😂😂😂

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks, I will measure the chain