569b Sacred Throne - Second Ireland Sacred Harp Convention, 2012

569b Sacred Throne, led by Sadhbh O'Flynn, Eimear O'Donovan and Fergus Lalor at the second Ireland Sacred Harp convention, March 3rd & 4th, 2012
Video by Seamus Hegarty. Audio by Danny Forde.
Full audio recordings available at corksacredharp....

[@fpaloazul]

At 82 I visit dark places in my mind that seem insurmountable. Then I find this group and this music and come home, so speak. Thank you, thank you. I would come to Ireland just to be near all of you.

[@Lukart44]

i was thinking The Exact SAME THING !

[@conantheseptuagenarian3824]

@@Lukart44 same.

[@artparty222murphy9]

There are places in the US that have sacred harp singing. I tried it in Saratoga NY DANCE FESTIVAL. THERE WAS A WORKSHOP. im looking for one now in California.

[@hempenasphalt1587]

@@artparty222murphy9 where are you in California? I have been to singings in the southland in San Diego, Eagle Rock, etc. But I live in Ireland and have truly come home now! Ireland is a blessed place!

[@ericholt5954]

Praise God ​@@Lukart44

[@kipwhite6532]

This song, this kind of singing, and the pure joy of these singers! I am almost in tears at the raw beauty of it. I pray that this music brings everyone who hears it closer to God. The words do more than praise, they teach.

[@joangordon3376]

I'm sure that there will be a Sacred Harp group near you for you to come along and sing. ❤️

[@ajtreeves]

I just get the goosies all over when I listen to Sacred Harp. My ears, my heart, my mind, and my spirit just feel like their glowing!!! Thank you, God, for the gift of voice!! 🙌🏾😍

[@donbowen6426]

Amen This is my life

[@marcwilliams2504]

I hear the beautiful voices in pure harmony, and can see the face of God through my own tears.

[@klugermann5806]

Amen!! ✝️🛐🙏

[@indialavoyce95]

Glory to God! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@dansalerno5652]

Absolutely beautiful! FYI, here are the lyrics: Beneath the sacred throne of God I saw a river rise; The streams where peace and pard’ning blood Descended from the skies. I stood amazed and wondered when Or why this ocean rose; That wafts salvation down to man, His traitors and His foes. That sacred flood from Jesus’ veins Was free to make away; And Mary’s or Manasseh’s stains, Or sins more vile than they

[@averykempf9164]

Thank you for lyrics!

[@allisonthorson1682]

I love how contented and awe-struck that man is... He's so adorable. Doesn't even need to watch the notes

[@justforever96]

Its a pretty simple son, and you don't need the notes once you've sung the son a few dozen times. It helps if you want to sing the shapes correctly, but it's actually not that hard to memorize the correct sequence of shapes just like lyrics. I can sing all or parts of a number of songs, shapes and all, without looking at a note. It's hard not to pick it up.

[@allisonthorson1682]

@@justforever96 I didn't say it was hard to pick up.. I said I loved the old man's contented look as he just watches the singers...

[@TomorrowWeLive]

Bathed in light from heaven like a saint...

[@easyas314e]

An excellent recording! But no recording can capture the immense power of being in that space. I went to a sacred harp event in Chicago many years ago, and I can still remember the sound... it was unlike anything I had ever heard before, or have heard since. Double-forte all the way!! Joyous and exhilarating!

[@notapilot1]

When we get there, all will be understood. And it will sound like this.

[@AlexGarcia-yb2bb]

I love this type of worship. I used to play bass for a worship team and to me this is the best because it's so inclusive anyone can do this I always felt that being part of a worship team it was almost a feeling of the popular vs the unpopular. That's why I tried to introduce this at my church to no avail to try to include everyone not just the best singers the best musicians. And because of it I stepped down. Very Beautifully done 👏👏👏

[@MegaAppleMan12]

@Chase Williams All parts of the body gotta join in! Like an orchastra is not complete unless all instruments play, worship is the fullest with all involved

[@joangordon3376]

I hope that you looked for, and found, a Sacred Harp group near you so that you could join in ❤️

[@jasonhood2453]

The lighting couldn't have been more perfect for this recording. The man in the center radiates in the sunlight with distinct physical similarity to an ancient prophet. Very appropriate for such a wonderful song.

[@lawrencegreenwood4002]

The redhead Jason, the redhead.

[@mickpock]

yes, the sacred harp goddess!

[@stephenadams2075]

Just came on this video and that was my first thought for sure.

[@9800421]

My comment about my first thought was referencing the lighting.

[@TrealochLynch]

Everything about this is perfect, especially the gentleman leading in the centre who is clearly having a beautiful spiritual experience. i just love the look of sheer joy on his face.

[@DanPurdy1]

Amen. The young women quite apparently think so much of him.

[@beldengi]

I cannot comprehend how anyone can be an atheist. Nothing is more compelling, more satisfying, and more convincing than the fundamental reality of God, in Christ reaching into our hearts through the Holy Spirit. This music is a fine testament to this.

[@mollyd7727]

You are blessed with Faith.

[@TomorrowWeLive]

You look like the man in the video, with a haircut

[@conantheseptuagenarian3824]

i was an atheist for a while. i was a damned fool.

[@pontiacmon]

Amen!

[@christophercross789]

I have been playing this on repeat for the last 3 hours. This is amazing, I am blessed to found this version of music. Thank you!!!!

[@davidhensley76]

The young woman with the ponytail is absolutely gorgeous. I think she is the very model of Ireland.

[@davidmeyer6908]

If this isn't the sound of salvation, I don't know what is. Magnificent!

[@tijean93]

Music transcends doctrine. The medium is truly the message.

[@DanPurdy1]

One really beautiful old Hymn sung beautifully in the four parts. It resonates in my soul.

[@andrewsmclark]

Technically six parts, as men and women sing tenor and treble in their own octave.

[@matthewbrady9342]

I love how they all laugh at the end.

[@DanPurdy1]

Beautiful four part harmony, he does not keep up with the other two. Still, faith alive in all three.

[@christopherdavidson2924]

The harmonies and music of Sacred Harp singing are the best singing this side of Heaven! I went with my Grandparents when I was a small child and I rediscovered it just a few years ago. It brings back sweet memories of my youth!

[@larryeddings3185]

Beautifully sung.

[@dalecoleman1334]

Total Peace in Christ and how marvelous. Why I love the Irish!

[@tomdarity386]

One of my favorites. Beautifully done.

[@MommaRed1862]

Just realized this tune is Ballerma from psalm 40 in the Scottish Psalter, 1652 was the publication date if I’m not mistaken. I’m quite certain sacred harp came a hundred years after. Nice to see the use of it here!

[@kitkat97284]

This is Martyrdom, not Ballerma, though they are similar! It was first arranged around 1800, and Ballerma actually came a few years later, although the Psalter was published in 1650.

[@MommaRed1862]

cat u right thanks!

[@ReichardtHelmut]

Beneath the sacred throne of God I saw a river rise; The streams where peace and pard’ning blood Descended from the skies. I stood amazed and wondered when Or why this ocean rose; That wafts salvation down to man, His traitors and His foes. That sacred flood from Jesus’ veins Was free to make away; And Mary’s or Manasseh’s stains, Or sins more vile than they

[@ReichardtHelmut]

I must make a correction to the text I originally posted. I had copied it from the book, but the last two lines don´t seem to make sense, so I searched and found indications that somewhere along the line there had appeared a Variation on what seems to be the original text. It´s a wee detail, but it really does make a difference! Beneath the sacred throne of God I saw a river rise; The streams where peace and pard’ning blood Descended from the skies. I stood amazed and wondered when Or why this ocean rose; That wafts salvation down to man, His traitors and His foes. That sacred flood from Jesus’ veins Was free to make away A Mary’s or Manasseh’s stains, Or sins more vile than they

[@philipians1635]

​@@ReichardtHelmut thank you but that seems to make even less sense! what stains are there of mary's?

[@TeslaKuhn8]

@@philipians1635 Might be old English, which can sometimes sound funny to us. "A Mary's or Manasseh's stains" could be [in our vernacular] "Of Mary's or Manasseh's stains".

[@raptide1358]

@@philipians1635 depends on which Mary, but all had sin.

[@eliastillery8137]

thank you for tyoing the words!

[@samanthak.mcdaniel7955]

Well you made me cry. It's so, so beautiful. I want to be present.

[@dianemottram3060]

Oh how much I miss Ireland. This music is lifting and sustaining. Just what mu heart needed.

[@Dulcimertunes]

So little part singing in churches anymore. This is glorious!

[@dancurry1623]

Beautiful voices!

[@shelterjimmy6795]

Incredible. Praise God.......and i must know ...who is the loud one in the background of this collection,? They are an angelwarrior...righteous.

[@deyc3]

I've been wondering that myself. I think it may be the tall woman on the right. Or it could be that older lady sitting very straight behind the shorter of the two.

[@thomasbranton2392]

The gentleman is completely our of sync with the girls, but right on time in the spirit.

[@benk6737]

The hand motions correspond to the notes they're singing. He is moving different because he's singing different notes. It's a way to help the singers follow along.

[@commandert5]

He's actually keeping up pretty well. He's just doing 2/4, while everyone else is on 3/4

[@j.g.campbell3440]

His downbeats are spot on. They are standard musical downbeats, but the ladies are doing time keeping in the shaped note tradition, and the words are pushed out high up where they can be seen by the group, about 4 inches from the top. Its 2 different concepts, but you have to know where and how to look. I suppose its the difference between a singer and a chorister.

[@sadhbhoflynn498]

It was his first time in the middle of the square and, as far as I can remember, only perhaps his second or third time at a singing - he'd fallen in love with the sound and started a correspondence with the Cork singing, and we (gently!) prevailed upon him to let us bring him into the square that day. It was a beautiful experience for the whole class, I think, and especially for us three in the middle!

[@DanielLeavittAttorneyatLaw]

@@sadhbhoflynn498 very cool you replied on this thread. New to this type of singing, what is the beginning of the songs about before you start singing the words of the hymn?

[@Grisbi6]

I wish I were many years younger, and that I could sing. I would have enjoyed taking part.

[@Abhothra]

That redhead (Don't know which one she is of the people listed in the discription) Is a joy to watch and no not because she's easy on the eyes but because she sings her heart out.

[@jdolnick2741]

That would be Sadhbh O'Flynn.

[@Abhothra]

@@jdolnick2741 How does one pronounce that?

[@ozsfi]

I think they are both redhead and sing their heart out though I understand what you mean. I love that tune and have often suggested it.

[@ozsfi]

@@Abhothra I think it is "saiv" with stress on the 2nd syllable.

[@Abhothra]

@@ozsfi ah tyvm

[@andyking957]

the older guy leading looks like old mose holding the tables with the ten commanemends ; -)

[@annareyneke6233]

Beautiful

[@shirleyjarrett2146]

I love the seating arrangement...and singing. It's cozy.

[@donaldmorrison9940]

Martyrdom is the name of the tune. It’s a common meter we often sing psalms to in Scottish Presbyterian churches

[@donbowen6426]

Amen and Amen Love you all so very much

[@pontiacmon]

Simply Beautiful!

[@shirleyjarrett2146]

Stunning.

[@rhinely850]

Alas, and did my Savior bleed, and did my sovereign die... Love this tune!

[@kelharper7971]

It's a great tune. But those words aren't in it. This is "Sacred Throne"' : "Beneath the sacred throne of God, I saw a river rise, The streams where peace and pardoning blood, descended from the skies" "I stood amazed, and wondered when, or why this ocean rose, That wafts salvation down to man, his His traitors and His foes." "That sacred flood from Jesus' veins, was free to make away, and Mary's and Manasseh's stains, or sins more vile than they" "Alas and did my Savior bleed" is the words to Weeping Savior 310 and Love the Lord 375.

[@rhinely850]

@@kelharper7971 same tune

[@blakeedmondson9573]

@@rhinely850 No it's not

[@73lukeman]

Beautiful music, unlike the worship or praise music sung in churches these days.

[@gerwolfemusic]

Happy Eastereverybody!

[@kitlatham6747]

Love.

[@dogriffiths]

If Heaven's not like this, I'm not going.

[@lisareaume3857]

Sounds great but too many leaders!

[@TheBigSkeptic]

The Irish sing Sacred Harp way better than the people in the United States. These people do it right. People in the South(former Confederacy) of the USA, act like they own Sacred Harp. The closest quality I've seen to these Irish are Sacred Harp singers in the state of Alabama. However, the folks in Alabama come in a distant second to these Irish folks.

[@justforever96]

+Aus Tex That's a subjective statement. You _think_ they sound better, but that doesn't mean they're "doing it right". It just appeals to you. Who can define the "correct" way of singing a song, except the guy who wrote it? Even among the writers, there was wide differences in what they thought the "correct" way for their songs to be sung was. Personally, I'm _glad_ that there are regional differences in the way things are done, because it makes things interesting, and I am grateful for the South, because if it wasn't for them, Sacred Harp wouldn't exist anymore. They were singing it exclusively for a hundred years, preserved it from total extinction. If I had saved a genre of music, and held it dear to my heart, I would be greatly annoyed at people coming along and taking it over as their own, and then telling _me_ that _I_ was doing it wrong. If the South wants to feel like they own Sacred Harp, that's fine by me. If I had raised a kid that the other parent had abandoned, I'd be very irritated when they showed up again years later and claimed that the kid belonged to them too, and BTW, that I wasn't raising the child right. I'd probably punch them in the face.

[@moorek1967]

+justforever96 perhaps the person doesn't understand where the Confederacy actually came from. It was the Irish, Scots/Irish and British who gave us the music. We should never forget our roots. The Puritans didn't have this much joy and everyone claims Massachusetts as the beginning, but Virginia was where it all started and it was the break-away Anglicans, Church of Scotland and Church of Ireland who learned to get along here. Most everyone with ancestry from the Antebellum Era can trace ancestry right back to the people who first sang Sacred Harp. I think it is safe to say that those in the penal colony of Georgia felt like singing despite the fact they weren't even viewed as human beings by the Crown. This is one good thing that came out of the Colonial Era.

[@TheBigSkeptic]

EVERYTHING in life is subjective.

[@TheBigSkeptic]

I am very aware that Sacred Harp tunes are tunes from England, Ireland, and Scotland, and even a couple from Germany. But in America, it all started out in the colonies up in the Northeast, not the South. There was no South at the time. I've had Southerners tell me that potato salad is southern. Potato salad comes from Europe, before the South even existed.

[@justforever96]

What the hell does that have to do with 'the Confederacy'? I am well aware of were the Confederacy came from, and how the American South was formed and shaped. I am also well aware that there is European influence in this music (they did not invent it however, it was the American South that have it the distinctive sound that it as today, an that's a fact. And of course, there are few good things that come out of the US that Europeans DON'T try to lay ultimate claim too, and few bad tins they don't completely disown and mock us for). I merely said that its foolish to stand there and say that one way of singing it is better than another, because its purely subjective. What the fuck does that have to do with my knowledge of history?

[@MadsenWildlife]

I want to marry the red head.

[@susanrobinson9805]

I absolutely love this singing but I wish there was subtitles.

[@andykeri8370]

How ancient is this prophet ? Besides no comprehendo your message. Do not fall into the exclusivity of the Shakers.

[@scottparis6355]

Beneath the sacred throne of God I saw a river rise; The streams where peace and pard’ning blood Descended from the skies. I stood amazed and wondered when Or why this ocean rose; That wafts salvation down to man, His traitors and His foes. That sacred flood from Jesus’ veins Was free to make away; And Mary’s or Manasseh’s stains, Or sins more vile than they

[@keysofthekingdomholybible]

Thank you.