Mini tub wheel well in one piece, Doubtful - Part 2

In this Video I continue to shrink the 7 inch flange over to a 90 while keeping the shrinks properly located to maintain the radius in the corner of the turn. After shrinking all the shrinks are blended out and planishing begins

[@RonCovell]

Brilliant work, Mike. I'm so glad you are doing this series, and I'm learning a lot from it!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks Ron, extremely humbling to have someone of your skill set watching my videos

[@dieseldabberdoug8285]

I love that Ron encourages his competitors.

[@RonCovell]

I consider Mike, and others in the field, colleagues, not competitors!@@dieseldabberdoug8285

[@dieseldabberdoug8285]

@@RonCovell that is so awesome, I love your channel.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@dieseldabberdoug8285 we are not in competition. There is more than enough work to go around for everyone.

[@TheCarlhungness]

The best of the best. Some craftsman are not teachers, but you certainly qualify as a journeyman in both departments. You're making a very valuable contribution to the world of metal shaping and I for one sure do thank you for all the time you've put into this course on making a wheel tub. Just phenomenal work.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for the Kind words and watching, but i am far from the best, i just try my best on every part

[@erty7012]

I've seen patch panels made but making the entire wheelhouse is definitely something to watch. That's good metal work your doing.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you, and Thanks for watching

[@jeffbonifield8981]

Nothing I can add to the great comments already here! Thanks for the great lessons!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for checking it out

[@MikePatten-k6l]

Mike, you are doing a fantastic job with your style of teaching metal working.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks

[@brucejones5879]

Wow, you really know your stuff. I'm enjoying your work vicariously, thank you! ......on to the final on these wheel wells.😊

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you and thanks for watchinf

[@marcusloftis2779]

Nicely done. The sound and lighting is great. The length of the video verses the content is perfect. It’s long enough to understand and follow along with dragging on. Oh yeah, the metal work was great too 😂.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for the feedback and checking out the channel

[@wilkesjournal]

Gorgeous, gorgeous work.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you very much

[@Ckmerr]

WOW. Very impressive man. Thanks for sharing!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching!

[@kellyjones841]

This was a fantastic tutorial, please show more

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks make sure to subscribe and check out some of my other videos

[@adambergendorff2702]

Loved seeing how you cleaned up the edge of the radius, and the simple masking tape trick to re-mark the radius line.

[@1960fl]

Loving this series

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks

[@lunkydog]

Just finished watching the first video. Very educational and I subbed before I even finished the first video. You're an excellent teacher.

[@chriszucker7500]

Killer "kontent"...process, process, process, and patience is my take-away. Most would be inclined to touch that wavy form, but you never did, and it came around perfectly. You're right on point with your approach to teaching these methods and the duration of the lessons. Thanks again!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching, patience is for sure the most important part of the metal shaping process and not falling into the " good enough" mentality

[@MatthewScott]

The longer videos are just fine man! People will watch this for an hour. Love your work. We're friends on FB and I see everything you do that you post. These tubs are incredible. I always two piece them with covell round over dies on the bead roller and then shrink the edges. Makes me want a power hammer so bad.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@sashakokesch4137]

Your content keeps getting better and better. A master craftsman!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you but I am far from a master

[@garymucher4082]

Nice to see a master at work. You learned a ton to be able to do these type forms out of one sheet of metal. Thanks for the video...

[@patrickheinemann3909]

Awesome work!!!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you!

[@bobgaylord8883]

Amazing craftsmanship ! Love your work & explanations of how & why you do what you do. Makes me feel rather inept, but I'm learning a lot from you & it's making my work better - Thank you !

[@paulbrooks9327]

Just unbelievable work 💪👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you so much 😀

[@jesscneal]

My god you make that look easy Mike. Stunning work 👍👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks, it is a lot more work and effort than it looks in the videos

[@karenstevearmstrong4594]

Outstanding work!

[@warrenolds625]

great video

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks!

[@JustinPaul1st]

Im not much of a metal worker...but your explanation, planning co ordination and execution is what makes these videos worth watching no matter how long duration they are...I speak for myself and probably most of the viewers here ...we dont mind the indepth step by step process of the metal work you do... Its too much time lapse that kills the videos...Thank you and keep doing what you do

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching. As far as leaving the time lapse in there is to show the panel moving as it is worked. I feel the video would be lacking if I had 5 seconds of time lapse and the panel changes drastically in that short span. It wouldnt show the full process as much as it is now

[@JustinPaul1st]

@@cornfieldcustomsAgree with you on the timelapse issue makes sense

[@danes2412]

Great job, thank you for your very good explanation how the shaping process going. 👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for watching

[@petersmith1076]

Wow very nice so far thanks

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@paulnewton943]

I agree with comments too you are brilliant. What I want to know and understand more is power hammer instructions on pressure and the planishing hammer when to move and how to know when to crank up the tension on them too. The finish on these are incredible. Do you use a buck/form as well thanks Mike

[@glenmiller3783]

That's amazing.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thank you

[@hbrannerudbrannerud6554]

Love your content! Learn so much! Since I can’t get a powerhammer like yours, I’d like your comment of using a english wheel instead?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks or watching but I dont really use a wheeling machine much if ever in the shop since I am so power hammer heavy

[@73turbopinto]

Metal Master !

[@joseph317]

You can sure put some angle on it..!

[@larrystruck1908]

Please continue.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

There is another episode

[@rogerwilson6367]

That's magic.

[@davidreames7032]

Mike you are the conductor, the machine is your baton and the metal is your symphony. Unreal! Question, how smooth can you get a steel piece. I see you do a lot of aluminum that has to be perfect.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks, you can get steel panels to be perfectly smooth as well, just takes times to work out any tooling marks and plannish everything out

[@ИгорьИгорь-в1ч1з]

Awesome

[@SheetMetalShaping]

How come adjusting the hammer to a longer stroke helps with hammer marks when shrinking? Another great vid 👌

[@cornfieldcustoms]

as you work the metal it begins to work harden, so by increasing the stroke it will allow it to hit harder. If not you may start to get tooling marks from the hammer not hitting hard enough to fully flatten out the tucks

[@SheetMetalShaping]

@cornfieldcustoms thanks Mike. Great vids and great information 👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@rdiphotos]

is there a reason you start in the middle instead of doing it from one side to the other? Great information and tremendous skills!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Just where i choose to start. It doesnt matter where you start as long as you keep it consistent

[@randywl8925]

How much thicker is the panel where it's shrunk the most? It must be a lot.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

I cant remember off hand but it was not a ton. I know commented back before with the exact thickness change so you may have to browse through the comment section.

[@randywl8925]

@@cornfieldcustoms I'll look. I'm guessing 24 1/2% 😁 Just looked. .014? 😱

[@thejameslealartco.7625]

Do you ever have to anneal a piece because it work hardens?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

This is steel, you dont anneal steel

[@brianb-p6586]

@@cornfieldcustoms If you're saying that you don't find that you need to anneal steel panels for your work, that makes sense... but the process does apply to steel. I think you're saying that the work hardening isn't a problem in steel for the jobs that you do, as it might be with other metals (such as aluminum alloys or even other steel alloys), so annealing is not required for your work in steel.

[@jjsyocum]

Mike, I really like these metal shaping videos, there’s not a lot of quality power hammer stuff on KZbin, especially instructional content. The explanations of the layout, tooling, techniques, machine setup and everything is great. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching, I am going to try to do more metal shaping/ Power hammer videos but just comes down to how often I am doing something video worthy on the hammer. some times I use it every day for months while others I dont use it at all for months

[@mysteriousstranger239]

You make it look easy but how many hours to do one fender?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

About 5 hours per wheel well

[@joeschlotthauer840]

17:25, do you have a radius tool to check the consistency, or are you just using your eyes?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

At this point I am Just going by eye and feel. Plus using the lower radius anvil to match what i wants gets it in the ball park. I have gauges i check with before calling it 100%

[@Gtsteveb]

Awesome work!!! We’re seeing physics in action 👍👍👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@michaeldattoli8495]

Im very interested in how much thicker the shrunken area is compared to the original thickness ?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

At the shrunk edge it is about .014 thicker

[@johnhome951]

amazing work......thank you

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for checking it out

[@nachoullua2297]

Your work is incredible, thank you for allowing me to continue learning. I have never used that thumb-shaped piece on the electric hammer, my hammer is much less powerful. I'm making a body out of aluminum, do you think aluminum would have the same result? Excuse my English, I am Argentine and I live in Barcelona. a hug with much admiration. thank you.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Good question, Yes i shape a lot of aluminum bodies and panels on the power hammer with thumbnail dies. Thanks for watching

[@nachoullua2297]

@@cornfieldcustoms Thanks Mike for your prompt response. I will follow your videos carefully and thank you again for sharing your work with such dedication and generosity.

[@X_Studios]

If you could add the time it takes on each part it will help with giving us newbies, a realistic, expectation of time

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for the feedback. Each inner wheel well took about 5 hours

[@joell439]

I was checking to see if anyone else this question as well. I find it very motivating to know how much effort it takes a master craftsman to accomplish parts of their craft. Thanks Mike for taking us along and providing just a glimpse of what it takes 👍😎👍

[@jankermer443]

Hello Mike, very very hot stuff. You have a lot of useful information in your videos and you can explain it very well from Metalshaper to Metalshaper, thank you in advance for that! I'm currently working on a panel made of 2mm aluminum and shrinking in with a Trumpf (like Pullmax) and the thumb nails. But there are still strong traces (scale pattern) from the thumb nails in the aluminum. You explain that you are increasing the stroke on the machine. This means you get a stronger hammer blow on the panel and the marks would then be gone. Can you get rid of the machining marks so well with the Trumpf or do I have to carry out an additional step and smooth them out with a planishing hammer? If you create the 90 degree surface, you give the material a little more than 90 degrees so that you still have a little "reserve" to smooth it out. When you smooth it out, the material will expand a little?! So that the material there doesn't overdevelop. Sorry for the long text ;-)

[@rdspeedfab]

Mike, you're a wizard. I always learn so much watching your videos. Thanks for bringing us along on this one.

[@craigwilson5631]

This would have to be the best explanation of extreme shrinking I have seen, I appreciate your time to show us, Thank you Mike

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@dennisschickling2249]

Looks Great. Nice Video. #STAYSAFE #PHILLYPHILLY🇺🇸

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@dutchcuda]

beautiful work Mike. Thanks for sharing. I love the video, but I would really like to hear that big a$$ hammer pounding away every now & then... 😎

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching, you might want to hear it but its pretty obnoxious coming through the Mic. That's why I turned it way down or cut it out

[@jasinarok]

Mike the content is perfect in my opinion. I wouldn't change a thing. If you are not currently teaching classes you should consider it.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

I teach classes at my shop and others around the country

[@hotrodhudson18]

What part of the die are you going to with your marked lines. Where are you feeding it to when you stop and then back off. Is it to the thumb of the die or to the back of the die closes to to when you start feeding back?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

neither. I am not watching the tooling, I am watching where the tuck closes in the sheet metal.

[@ThrottleStopGarage]

Finally someone that can tell me the science behind what's going on. Thanks!

[@Handbuilt1]

Very well documented , explained well . WELL DONE !!

[@colinbatchford8007]

Impressive, the music was good not annoying like some videos.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching. Music is tough since it has be royalty free so its hit and miss

[@corinamagnusson6479]

👍🇦🇺

[@tracykouns4903]

Great work you are a craftsman....I would love to be a fly on the wall there

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks 👍

[@timothytaylor6845]

Fantastic. Crystal clear commentary and superb craftmanship. Thank you.

[@SamRalls-ti1be]

More great work and good explanations.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks

[@zeekdavis11]

Hey mike! Love the content! Been on a cornfield binge lately 😂 Out of curiosity, is there anytime to be saved doing one piece tubs over tank rolling and welding two pieces? I’m getting ready to make a set for a ‘50 merc. Ive tank rolled quite a few sets but am trying to break into new territory around the shop. Love your work, keep it up man 👍🏼

[@cornfieldcustoms]

I think it would take longer to do them in 2 pieces. Doing them in one piece takes about 5 hours from patterning to finished part. I would probably have a couple hours just in trimming, fitting, welding and hammering out the weld

[@edwardtaylor4785]

That's a lot of shrink. Amazing work!. Maybe I misunderstood something, but on planishing the small radius, what was the radius on the lover anvil? I thought you said 36", but I can't figure out how that would work. Also, just for reference, what is the thickness increase at the area of most shrink compared to the original material thickness?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

the small radius is .875 Radius tooling, 36" radius tooling was used to blend out all the shrinks on the flats. the material got thicker by .014 on the shrink edge.

[@edwardtaylor4785]

Thanks@@cornfieldcustoms

[@yt650]

Really appreciate your craftsmanship you definitely know how it’s done. I’ve watched every videos I could find from others where sheet metal is being moved around and I learned an enormous amount of from every one of them. I have some equipment a planishing hammer and an English wheel and lots of other tooling I have used in the past but unfortunately I am 80 years old and only have one working eye and that one is not so hot so I’m having a good time watching people like you. I sure wish I knew about this when I was 50. Having the time and having the wherewithal doesn’t help if you can’t see. Keep up the good work I am a new subscriber. Just as a sidenote I used to be a metal spinner as well.

[@DannyChiguina-ww2qy]

Great job sir

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thank you

[@ponga782]

Great video! Maybe do a video on the layout lines .. otherwise, awesome job on the explanation..

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@ponga782 did you want episode 1?

[@ponga782]

@@cornfieldcustoms yes, I did.. I was thinking about a video on the thought process or concept on layout lines in general. Not specific to this video.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

the lay out lines are dictated by the pattern

[@erica8664]

What is the alloy of that metal.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Just run of the mill 18 gauge cold roll steel

[@countrymuch2017]

I am interested is the actual thickness of the shrunk portion - for it form in that matter just how much thicker has it gotten? BTW thank you for this video

[@cornfieldcustoms]

It got thicker by .014 on the shrunk edge

[@countrymuch2017]

@@cornfieldcustoms WOW! Thank you I've bent metal but not with the strategery and intended outcome you can, I understand the method but lack the insight you have - thank you for teaching us

[@RevengeCustomPaintCo]

You’re using a power hammer. Can this be done with a Pullmax as well?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

You can shrink on a pullmax with thumbnail dies but wont be able to do that deep of shrinks that clean and easily. A fixed stroke machine like a pullmax doesnt have a real hit to shrink, it is more of a push on the bottom of its stroke

[@RevengeCustomPaintCo]

@@cornfieldcustoms makes sense, thanks!!

[@crchuckh6852]

damn nice,🙂👍👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you

[@og190]

Absolutely blown away I follow you and Karl fisher and it never ceases to amaze my on how you shape metal into the shapes you need .I am curious about 1 thing how long it took you to make each wheel tub?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

It takes about 5 hours per wheel well from patterning to finished part

[@ikepeters3722]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks

[@testpilot6456]

Great insight , You makes the impossible not so impossible for the would be restorer.

[@thebudgetbuildguy133]

Mate thanks for the footage I just got a power hammer and wanting to learn how to use it to irs full potential Cheers from Australia

[@dougwernham5209]

Excellent video very interesting thank you.

[@stocktonbaptistga]

Mike I learned a lot watching , you are really good at teaching thanks.

[@rbrpulling]

Great video Mike! Can see the value in, investing in good tools.

[@petergrant4073]

Unbelievable that you can do that with metal!

[@ltseven]

You sir are a master craftsman absolute master

[@thomaslynch2083]

The work you is amazing nice job

[@tonycummings5427]

I just joined your channel, brother you got talent you made that wheel well look easy alot of practice over the years thow. I look forward to watching more of your content. And thanks for not minding to share your knowledge with us.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@tonycummings5427 thanks for watching

[@reidgilker4473]

Nice .. we don't see this level of skill often !! very impressive 👍

[@paulwoodward7954]

Wow nice work you are a master 👌👌👍

[@rowycoracing]

Awesome stuff. Thank you so much for posting. I am going to go to the steel yard to replenish my stock of sheet metal and give it a try. I think you showed several areas where I messed my last try up so I am optimistic that I can get a better result this time around. I had gotten pretty frustrated and was actually thinking of just selling my MH19 but now I have enough new insights to carry on for a bit.

[@matthewbrown5677]

Very Pro....neat very neat.

[@Ron-ci8gb]

Keep going haha love it

[@mikeburnett7028]

Such a pleasure to watch a real master at work

[@Fenderbendsfab]

Hell Yah!

[@trevorpowell7084]

Awesome stuff! Any plannishing how to videos coming?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Episode 3 on the wheel well i talk about planishing and blending

[@lenturtle7954]

Artwork 🎉

[@adambergendorff2702]

Forgot to mention I think your only a year or two away from 250,000 subscribers!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks but i doubt it. I have been working on my channel for a year and only gained a couple thousand subs. With that increase rate it will take a while to get into six figure

[@russtuff]

This is amazing, thanks for showing us.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@JonDingle]

Fantastic work young man, top skills in showing the science, methodology and practices. Great teacher too!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you kindly!

[@jarnosaarinen4583]

Awesome work!

[@daveremian6324]

How long has it taken you to make the inner wheel well that way, compared to cut and weld on the radius with 2 pieces. Thanks

[@cornfieldcustoms]

5 hours per wheel well to make them this way

[@danandgillianwhite9115]

Great content! I wonder how much thicker the metal is where all the shrinking took place?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

.014 thicker at the shrank edge

[@floridian7143]

Thanks for sharing! I'm always learning!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching and glad the information is helpful

[@samperras]

Good tooling

[@iambicpentameter7177]

That is a lot of shrinking, amazing work! Do you ever have to stress relieve the steel with heat?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks, no heat or stress relief needed

[@tbrads9145osh]

Amazing videos. Very informative and well explained. Does the hammering stretch the metal where it needs to be shrunk again?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

It depends on who your running the hammer. if you have it hitting to hard it will stretch as well as shrink. The hammer needs to hit just hard enough to close the tuck smoothly and at that hit is just shrinking