CORVETTE SHOOTOUT! Z06 VS NON-Z: Driving perfection?

[@HardwiredZ06]

I really love the c5z. The interior is super comfortable to me first off. 2nd, I've only been beat on the street by a modified trackhawk and a newer m5. I've been even with an rs6, a lt1 ss, trx, modified evo 8, 5.0, scatpack, fbo type r, model s, m340i, new m3, etc.. and this is a car built in 2004 and purchased for 20k lol. On top of that, this car gets compliments almost daily on the street because no one sees these on the road anymore. I can count on my hand how many times I've seen a c5z driving around since I bought this car in 2020. Collectors item for sure and such a beast of a car.

[@drewmorg.]

Did you ever sell it? Nice ones are 23k minimum now :(

[@yetscret3012]

“This is not a car that punishes you for driving it” I’ve dogged the hell out of my ‘00 base model for the better part of 2 years and 37,000 miles and it’s still running strong. Minimal maintenance, now sitting at 126k miles. So glad I got this car

[@ElliottAlvis]

Hey, wait a second…

[@SuperSnallygaster]

C5Z is a legend. 20+ years later, it's still breaking hearts on road courses everywhere.

[@thecman26]

You are correct, my 99 S10 had that exact same radio for about 2 weeks after I bought it! Then it had a Clarion Pro Audio Cd deck! BTW people put easy miles on those Corvettes because at 70mph you could cruise AND get "economy car" fuel economy whilst doin it!

[@48Boxer]

4:50 The proper sound to make getting in and out of any vette

[@HardwiredZ06]

For some reason, getting into the passenger seat is way more difficult than the driver seat. You literally have to fall into the passenger seat because there's no steering wheel to grab.

[@48Boxer]

@@HardwiredZ06 on the c4 you aren't supposed to grab the steering wheel or it ruins it and it'll wobble all over the place

[@darrylsjodin7184]

I’m one of those baby boomers with a C5, but mines a black Z06 and I drive it like I stole it! And we have windy roads! Great fun! The base C5 does sound good, but more tame. I immediately recognized the sound when you got onto the Z06. It doesn’t take much throttle to get going in a big hurry! Very responsive. I have Continental Pro Contact Sport tires and they really have tenacious grip! Big improvement. Also on any of the LS engines, I solved the tick tick valve train noise by adding Amsoil Upper Cylinder lubricant to every tank of gas! It really did the trick. No more panic in my chest when driving away on a cold morning! Great review bud!

[@hardyschilling644]

Z06 also has an exhaust made of titanium and magensium wheels. Impressive stuff...👍

[@FrancoisTCS]

No magnesium wheels.

[@kallo182]

Magnesium Wheels are an Option available for every Corvette Model. Have nothing to do with Z06.

[@DaveInTheFort]

@@FrancoisTCS the 2001 model year have them standard. It's why they were painted and not polished

[@C5Z06CarGuy]

@@DaveInTheFort Not the Z06.

[@FrancoisTCS]

@@DaveInTheFort IIRC the magnesium wheels are an option for any C5. The base option is either wagon wheels before 2001, 5 spokes grey 01-04 and 5 spokes champagne on the anniversary red, and there are 2 manufacturers of the Z06 “10” spoke depending on the year model. Magnesium and five thin spokes polished aluminium were option.

[@mathiatube]

A cam and headers will change your opinion of LS power curve. I have a 224/228 and it pulls strong up top without giving up the grunt down low. Also has some chop at idle. Of course you can go even bigger with the duration and get even more power up top if you’re willing to sacrifice low end torque and idle quality.

[@Carguylogan]

I have the same cam in an LS2 C6 and while it only gained 30 whp peak, it didn't lose ANY power anywhere. Even right where I started the pull, at 2,500 rpm, it was up 10 hp over the stock cam. Nice chop at idle but doesn't buck. I can lug the engine at 1,100 rpm and its smooth as glass. In fact if I put the trans in gear and turn the a/c on it doesn't even chop anymore lol because of the loads.

[@gregblack8550]

Cam and headers I seen 100 hp dif on a 6.0, that’s a whole dif power level . 140 with heads added we seen .

[@exoticspeedefy7916]

243 heads and LS6 intake and you basically have an LS6 in a base C5. Blocks are identical

[@alenzach]

Unpopular opinion is right. IMO, my 01 6speed is the most fun when I drive up to and just a bit past redline and I honestly feel like the fun starts at 3k and I do genuinely sink into the seat more and more as I rev it higher. My exhaust definitely makes it more fun hearing that LS1 as the revs go up, especially with a convertible.

[@tedh7543]

I have an '01 Convertible and agree 100%! The cool fall days are coming up and driving with the top down is going to be a visceral blast again very soon!

[@alenzach]

@@tedh7543 I’ve got an LT4 C4 convertible now. Still fun albeit just a split second slower than the LS1 from what I feel having owned both.

[@rattlesnakecake]

For gas mileage, I got 31 miles per gallon on my 2002 C5 Z06 several times on 5 hour trips. The ride was good as well. I had C6Z shocks and C6 ZR1 swaybars. I sold it with 150k miles and put 70k on it. Sold it for 2k less than I bought it for (8 years ago) and had it for 6 years. Wonderful car. I'm looking for another one and came across this video.

[@joeynorton7751]

22 mins roasting your own car 😂 the dry humor had me tuned in. Good video 👍

[@TheRealAlpha2]

(applause) That, sir, was near Ed Bolian levels of talkifyin', well done.

[@300DBenz]

That yellow Z06 has been on so many channels lately.....I dub thee “The Village Bicycle”!

[@plektosgaming]

My favorite alternate "Corvette" was the GTO. Same engine, great seats/interior, and a total sleeper. It came with the shorter gears as well, so it's quite fun to drive. At the time most of the cutting-edge GM models and feature were coming out of Australia (Holden). Kind of an-inbetween car between that generation Corvette and the next one, where GM fixed a lot of things in terms of usability and comfort (basically copied much of Holden's work). Just something to also consider if you can't afford one of the actual Z06s due to the crazy prices we're seeing now. Also - 12:25 - blowing past that person driving under the speed limit in their econobox...

[@cs1375]

I like those GTOs but I'm more partial to the CTS-Vs.

[@plektosgaming]

@@cs1375 Those are also fantastic, but they tend to beb a bit pricey used.

[@cs1375]

@plektosgaming2689 yes, they can be. I remember before Covid seeing those GTOs for 6k all the time even the Vs were only like 8k back then. I dealership near me just had a 1st gen V with 154k it was like 14k

[@teresadennett5855]

Had an 06 GTO with the 6.0 man that car was a blast n sounded great

[@gregblack8550]

I remember my brothers 06 gto was pretty expensive. He put a lot of parts and ended up at 570 at the wheels .

[@gadget73]

There are a few differences specific to the Corvette version of the 4L60 trans, but not much. Mostly the shift servo is larger so it does shift harder. Common upgrade to use the Vette parts in trucks and such so its less of a mushy mess. Had that done in my S10 when it blew up and it would bark the 1-2 shift but it was still not what I'd want in a sports car.

[@ryannafe9252]

For me, I’d get the auto just as a cruising around (and sometimes going fast) on public roads. It’s not optimal for power mods or dynamic driving, but for a mild engine (stock except for, say, exhaust and a dyno tune/ecu flash) it’s easy to live with and friendly to drive, but the car is still faster than most things you’ll run into and still excellent to drive.

[@C5Zthings]

In autos though the gearing was so long. Most were 2.73s

[@gadget73]

@@C5Zthings fuel economy. Sucks for performance but won't someone think of the CAFE laws?

[@bman20233]

I kept hitting the radio with hand on hard shifts to third...mgw short shifter for the win.

[@alecburgos2314]

9:57 a solution to that is to get a higher powerband cam. that’s more geared for higher rpm essentially. my buddy did that and wow does it take off around 4k rpm. coming from a mustang guy, a corvette fan definitely be made what you want it to be!

[@rsw9480]

Sure a old C5 with High Millage ,Cheep Tires ,Blown Shocks ,old seals will produce all the things you complained about as GM engineering but are really signs of just an old worn out car. The Z06 with less milage and better car would certainly perform better .

[@collinmcateer6890]

I love my c5 I luckily live close to mountains and the handling is incredible. stock the car easily rivals many cars that are modified to run the mountain. I have beat out supercharged miatas with suspension and better tires wrx's with suspension and tire. Then transitioning to highway I've beaten other c5's and countless mustangs the cars transmission struggled against a stock 2SS camaro and has only been beaten by a cammed ss camaro. Truly a great car

[@JeremyGSU2011]

I had a black ‘04 Z06 for years but regretted not getting a yellow one. I think the yellow still looks fantastic.

[@rsw9480]

What is the check engine light on the Z06 ?

[@lehbeltman]

Non standard exhaust . No catalytic converter. WatchJRgo explained it

[@DelaneyZR-1]

My Z06 check engine light is on because of Air pump for egr.

[@ottoskeen9499]

For Gas mileage on your vette, check the tire pressure, you spark plugs/wires and the maf sensor

[@badass1g]

The problem is he’s always on the gas. Drive like a gramps and you’ll easily get 30+ on the highway in any of these cars

[@2LT-c8q]

Make Corvette great again 😂

[@josephlittlepage7144]

4:04 The FRC wasnt available concurrently with the Z06. There were about 4000 FRCs made in '99 and about 2000 in '00. the first year of the Z06 was 2001 with 385hp, then the '02 Z06 had 405hp. Initially the FRC was supposed to be a "budget" vette, m6 trans only and they all had the z51 package.

[@Charlemagne89]

I have a '00 FRC and it's basically a diet Z06. It makes for a great track car but part of me wishes for like a 2003 Z51 6spd coupe. It feels like a cramped cave in the FRC and you lose some cargo room.

[@rpavlik1]

Very nice review! My mug is on the way, I'm looking forward to getting in my Corvette 🤣 The bits of a C5 interior that are common with a Saturn S series really give me nostalgia feels...

[@100PercentJake]

The Saturn S series was one of the best things to ever come from GM and the suits did it DIRTY.

[@rpavlik1]

@@100PercentJake 110%. I knew I liked you 😁

[@grantaldous]

That Check Engine Light is so on-brand...

[@scottc78]

Nice how you worked your logo into the dash of the Z06...

[@foxgdsmck]

What about doing a east coast supercharger (not a and a due to engineering/ install difficulties) on the base model with new sway bars, long tubes, and lowering kit?

[@Tokenomics1]

Have a 97 C5 and put a stock 2002 LS6 in It. With intake/exhaust/ pulleys and a tune it pulled 392hp at the wheels so about 450hp. 12.18 quarter mile on stock LS6 and stock gears not bad. Are there faster cars? Sure. But 450hp is enough to have fun with and the 51/49 weight distribution and the fact you can pull 30+mpg on the highway its all good. Plus it handles the twisties like a champ. Even with the leaf spring suspension. I have a short shifter too. Definitely worth doing.

[@42Hertzer]

Subliminal promotion for 100% Jake with that shining check engine light on the Z. ;)

[@craigthescott5074]

When it comes to the C5 your much better off buying the Z06.

[@bloodcorer]

What's the difference from the simple version? All I care is the cruising in such beautiful car. Don't really care about the HP

[@craigthescott5074]

@@bloodcorer if you don’t care about performance the base sting ray is the best deal.

[@jeffpacetti5800]

I could coax 30+ mpg on the highway from my stock C5 and after the heads and cam. Sounds like your C5 needs some TLC.

[@paromanin]

Your complaints about the powerband - while i do agree for driving fun - is what makes the C5 a weapon on the track - power under the curve everywhere to pull you out of a corner no matter what RPM. Currently driving an 02 C5 Z06

[@kj475]

Put some longtube headers, a CAI, remove the cats and a tune.. That will really wake up that LS1 and give you the power you're looking for above 3500 RPM. It's an entirely different car will run very close to that Z06.

[@Carguylogan]

Headers actually make a lot of mid range power on LS engines and less up top. They gain power up top too but usually it's something like a 25 hp gain at 3,500 rpm and a 15 hp gain at 6,000 rpm. The Z06 had better heads and cam which is where that 50 hp comes from. Put headers and tune on the Z06 and it's 50 hp above a header/tune LS1.

[@exoticspeedefy7916]

@@Carguylogan Just put 243 (LS2) heads and the LS6 on the LS1 block is easy and cheap enough to get the same performance. They are the same block juts different heads/cam/intake etc in an LS6

[@Carguylogan]

@exoticspeedefy7916 It's actually not the same block. LS6 blocks are windowed at the bottom of the bores for windage, and I believe the extra half point of compression is from the pistons and deck height not the heads. But close enough, an LS1 with 243 heads is a cheap way to make decent pooer.

[@exoticspeedefy7916]

@@Carguylogan Nah pistons and block are the same, I have pulled both apart and were same pistons. Unless it's a 04. 01 and 02 are the same block different heads but nothing that makes a different to performance, the heads cam and intake on the LS6 are what makes it shine.

[@Carguylogan]

@exoticspeedefy7916 Some 01 and 02 LS1 cars got LS6 blocks and manifolds because of supply issues at GM. But they are different. GM made a different block for the LS6, it's not a question or a mystery. The LS6 block is different, period. You pulled apart an LS1 that got an LS6 block from the factory.

[@Misterfairweather]

The stiffness difference isn't the shocks it's the massively different spring rates between the Z06 and base. Unless they've been replaced, the Z06 probably also has worn out shocks at this point in its life.

[@rpavlik1]

It's only got like 40k miles. Does it go bad over time or only with use?

[@ulisesavila2879]

@@rpavlik1 man, the youngest c5 has been standing its weight for about 19 years, and the oldest for about 27 years, go figure.

[@itiswhatitis4905]

20:21 Don't ever do that to "someone else's car" just to hear exhaust noises!!!

[@100PercentJake]

It's a revmatch downshift. It's fine.

[@RyanKlapperich]

A wild Jake appears!

[@jamesvandyke5874]

I'd rather have the hatch, much easier to load, Targa makes all the difference really! Also rather have fog lights, aren't those missing on C5 Z06? 12 disk changer out in the trunk is a cool throw back to the 90s

[@tylerdzugan9596]

C5z has fog lights as well.

[@jamesvandyke5874]

@@tylerdzugan9596 I would have thought they would want the weight savings! Ya know making the windshield lighter and all that.

[@lockonstratos7787]

​@@tylerdzugan9596they were an option, my buddy has a z06 and his did NOT come with fog lights from factory and he doesnt have them at all. He looked up his build sheet and the car didnt come with them.

[@craigthescott5074]

Na the Z06 is the only way to go so much more performance. I’m not buying a Corvette to carry shit around.

[@jackgray1402]

I really enjoyed this overview of these two corvettes. I want my dad to LS swap his two door Tahoe with an LS6. I imagine it will be a very fun vehicle if we accomplish it.

[@cryptonz06]

c5 zo6 best car i’ve ever owned 💪🏾💪🏾

[@alexgervais2199]

Hey do you think a 2003 20k mile z06 is a smart buy? What are some issue I might run into since it’s been garaged most of life and barely driven?

[@darrylsjodin7184]

A great 50th anniversary car for $25,000 to $32,000. Change all of the fluids and it should be great!

[@jeffpacetti5800]

Depending on the mileage, you may have valve float at higher rpm, otherwise your car should be pulling stronger to redline.

[@ryanbrown918]

A Cam & Head work will change the powerband real quick

[@JDWDMC]

That intro! Nice work :)

[@valter_vava74]

"check engine" light on the Z06 was the perfect detail...

[@0Heeroyuy01]

the way you talk about the way power comes on @9:30 makes me wonder have you ever put you foot to the floor? im not talking about getting on it but i mean going from nothing or very little gas to the floor.

[@richardmorris7063]

I like you're reference to pompous Jeremy Clarkson. I had an 02 coupe electron blue,great car.

[@lirr408]

You mentioned the Buick Roadmaster, did you buy Magic Mike, the Mechanics Buick Roadmaster, too?

[@loganpolley7767]

It's loud as he'll in my c5 billy boats catless x and long tube along with a fully built motor I might as well just not talk above 1500 rpm

[@Andino.]

9,500? Damn man

[@MrJoemann95]

How many miles on the Z06? I didn’t notice

[@Max_Thunder]

Damn how many channels are giving away the same car.?

[@rmontena4583]

why is the chk engine light on?

[@kallo182]

Probaply because of the Headers and Exhaust modifications.

[@100PercentJake]

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[@mattbrattensborg7785]

As others have said put a big cam and heads on an ls1 and its a completely different animal

[@silentthunderz28]

Whoever wins that z06 your driver window is missing the rubber pieces that hold the window to the tracks that's why it rattles

[@lirr408]

I thought they were Cavaliers.

[@YesSirYesSir3bagsFULL]

13:04 the check engine light is on!

[@avioncamper]

Jake was in his happy place.

[@codyC423]

Shit that black base C5 looks sssoooo good

[@shaehatfield1899]

Thoroughly enjoyed your video and cantor, cander? Not sure how to spell it but u know the word 😂

[@OvertakeAuto]

Awesome video!

[@michaelday6987]

Is this an Elliot Alvis video? Feels like it… for some reason…

[@100PercentJake]

It's uncanny

[@dave11686]

Nice

[@grahamfrost2480]

Great vid, great car! 👍🇬🇧

[@pmkstudios]

toy with targa > faster toy with hard roof

[@octoman_games]

ZO6= Zora's Option 6

[@grumpygrant4537]

Where all the automatics four speeds ?

[@tmoney99296]

Yep junk

[@Carguylogan]

1984 to 2005 lol

[@psp1921tsmg]

Whole time you’re in the yellow vet that check engine light glares at me.

[@SB-pf5rc]

7:28 -- z06 has an aluminum chassis.

[@FrancoisTCS]

C6, not the C5… C5 Z06 have std C5 chassis.

[@JAKEWJONES]

9:21 This guy prefers a Yamaha R6 over a Ducati Monster.

[@yiyangcheng]

I'm sure that's a Jeep Patriot instead of Liberty lol

[@brandonbeeler2954]

Chris cross apple sauce

[@lockonstratos7787]

Looks wise the base model get more looks from anyone whos not a car enthusiast, your general public likes the base coupe more. I say this bc me and a friend both own c5s his is a z mine isnt and your average person will ask, look, talk about mine more then his.

[@lampat.8830]

20 years old z still handles better than modern M2 you know chevy z aint messign arond with this subject

[@bignickenergy2042]

Yeah those other engines “pull and pull” because they have turbos😂

[@ydeardorff]

So it looks like the only reason I'd want a Z06 is for the manual transmission

[@Carguylogan]

You can get a manual in the base. If you like handling, the Z06 is a considerably better handling car than the base. My C6 feels like a boat compared to my C5Z.

[@craigthescott5074]

Not to mention the Z06 is much faster.

[@labf5213]

What are you doing in hoovies garage? Lol

[@StormAutoAdventures]

I wish the camera wasn't aimed at you. It would be so much better if we could see the dash and entirely out the windshield to actually be able to see what the driver or passenger can see. I hate that so many are doing this... It looks like they're making the video about themselves, rather than the car, which is the reason why we're here in the first place. IDK, it just bugs me.

[@jarjarlol]

How can a 33k sub channel justify a car giveaway? Whats the catch?

[@ah4800]

Hate the shifters

[@rpavlik1]

You gotta do silicone dielectric grease on those seals, breathe a little life into them, plump them up. Also you might have lost your license to drive Corvettes by calling it a Zed-06

[@100PercentJake]

Zed Aught Six

[@markguillory281]

nice cars

[@omysan]

I really don't like all this witchta KZbinrs corvette thing you guys are doing, sorry, i can't be the only one that thinks that

[@richardelliott8352]

it seems buying a camera is a lot easier than becoming a knowledgeable corvette fan boy, and corvette's get clicks. I mean, that's why I'm here, because I have an interest in C5 corvettes, not to listen to some guy make consumer grade comments about his used cars.

[@Ts-zy4bw]

Learn how to drive a manual transmission lol

[@DelaneyZR-1]

Dude talks to much

[@highlanderc]

cavalier with v8 power.... so disrespectful and doesn't make you knowledgeable nor cool.

[@James-sir]

Walk more to save your sissy back

[@yt4415]

This music is SO annoying.

[@philllsxga.7737]

Dude! What in the heck are you talking about?!? My stock LS 1 pulls RIGHT to 6 k no problem!! It pulls harder after 4k RPM!! 🙄 Another miss guiding KZbinr...

[@Carguylogan]

They do, but the Z06 continues pulling where the LS1 is done. All LS engines build power linearly. Even my LS2 felt nice and linear when stock.

[@brycehollen6373]

Even with the base gearing in a manual it pulls way too hard u just didn’t mod it at all. Makes sense for someone who takes shit to the shop. amg gay btw those piece of shits done last at all.