Could a No Deal be Good for the UK? - Brexit Explained

[@kruzauarougfabbriw7710]

Without the EU maybe there's an end to blaming the EU for everything. Maybe the people wake up and take a closer look at what their government is actually doing (or not doing).

[@tomasbickel58]

My thoguht, too. What if the problems people have aren't sourced in Brussles but in White Hall? What if the solutions could have been implemented all along, but government just didn't want to. Maybe because any effective solution would have called for tax increase.

[@johnturner4400]

It’s in Britain’s nature to blame someone else for our problems

[@johnbraithwaite863]

I think you are underestimating how much people actually know about British politics and their disdain for the parliament; we just hate the EU even more.

[@bujin1977]

They'll find someone else to blame. Or find a way of distracting people so that they forget to ask the questions.

[@Nickle314]

The EU is also part of government. It is to blame as well. There's no karma that says because the UK government is bad the EU is good

[@AlexBergPlays]

I'd like to see how no deal would affect the EU.

[@JoeLLundahL]

Same!

[@IzinTheBzin]

Very little

[@kazpeh]

It would not affect it much at all

[@flerkan2802]

@@kazpeh I wouldn't say that, The UK is a large part of EU and a large importer of EU goods. So the EU will feel the effects of The UK leaving but we will survive it much better than The UK if a no deal happens

[@whirled_peas]

@@IzinTheBzin Us leaving is a big factor in the stability of the EU.

[@simonsaysjapan]

You’ve made a fundamental error in not realising the difference between a ‘trade deal’ and a ‘free trade deal’. You stated that “the E.U. has 65 trade deals” which is way too few. As a member of the E.U., the U.K. has 27 free trade deals with other EU members, and 4 free trade deals with the EFTA nations (Norway, Iceland, Lichtenstein and Switzerland). The E.U. also has 70 free trade deals with non-EEA (EU and EFTA) countries across the globe, including Canada, Japan, South Korea, Singapore etc. These are free trade deals offering no tariffs and no quota restrictions. We also have 759 other trade deals which are not free trade, but do offer limited or zero tariffs on certain goods and services within certain sectors. So they are sometimes free trade deals with regard to certain sectors. So on Brexit day, a ‘no deal’ Brexit means that the U.K. walks away from all of these 101 free trade deals and 759 trade deals and from 23:00 hrs on 29th March 2019 has zero. No nation on Earth trades purely on WTO rules. Whilst life outside the WTO is even more chaotic (non-members are some scattered island states, Iran, Iraq, Eritrea, Somalia and North Korea), WTO rules themselves are still pretty punishing. There was a suspicion that Mauritania traded only on WTO rules, but it turned out that they actually have a charity-related trade deal with none other than the E.U. Nor is the UK’s unfettered transition into full independent WTO membership guaranteed. Our current membership is held only as an EU member, and the WTO is watching exactly how we leave the E.U. and just how much animosity we create, and especially whether we pay our debts upon leaving. We need all 164 members to agree our membership and under what WTO schedules we will trade on. With 512 million comparatively well developed consumers in a bloc with a GDP of €18.8trn, then the E.U. wields immense negotiating power. In fact, the US negotiation team have stated clearly that the E.U. team is the world’s number one most powerful negotiating team and the only one they fear. Consequently, the EU’s WTO schedules are extremely advantageous. However, they still see 11% in tariffs levied upon cars, 30% on wine, 40% on cheese, 44% on grated cheese, about 40% on beef, up to 98% on some products. The U.K. has hoped to simply continue on these same E.U. schedules, but other WTO members have already said they’ll veto, including the USA, New Zealand, Canada, Moldova, Argentina and Spain etc. We need all 164 WTO members to agree, and let’s face it, many won’t because (a) they don’t like us because of our imperial history, (b) they don’t lie us due to territorial disputes, (c) they don’t like us due to recent wars, invasions or backing certain regimes with weapons and (d) they are direct competitors with the U.K. in certain sectors and are hoping to see us flounder so that they can eat our lunch. So how are our export sales teams supposed to fair whilst we have tariffs and restrictive quotas on our products and they can’t offer similarly quick and easy logistical processes because U.K. products are now subject to more security, compliance and customs checks? The reality is that we cannot survive such a global onslaught and our export sales teams are about to take a real drubbing by competitors. Trade deals take usually between 3 and 10 years to complete. The easy ones are worth less and complete quickly. The valuable ones take longer. U.K. firms will not be able to survive that long on falling sales and fierce competition for markets, especially as the world faces a recession and falling demand. What is to follow is a huge selling off of U.K. private and public sector industries. The Americans can’t wait, hence Trump loving Brexit.

[@mukkaar]

Trump is already trying to sell their inferior quality food products to UK that would not go trough EU food safety. Which would be hard to refuse considering how much leverage US would have in trade agreements.

[@mucsalto8377]

thank you for that comprehensive information. Before, I saw me as quite informed, but I wasn´t.

[@sleachy1981]

I am both grateful and horrified to learn this. Thank you for taking the time to explain it, but I kinda wish you hadn't.

[@smogmonster1876]

Thank you for an extremely detailed and even more importantly, clear explanation of ‘No Deal’. I’ve always believed that ‘No Deal’ would horrific and it has always frightened me but you have gone into details that I’d never even thought about. Thank you.

[@JimboRustles]

NEEEEEEEEEEEERD

[@saltycycling]

I think it is highly unlikely that Trump would strike a trade deal that would be good for the British. In fact, I think that he's the first person that would take advantage of the UK position and use it to get a great deal for Washington but not so much for London. That's just his style, he's a hardcore businessman and this would simply be a natural move. Britain will be thirsty and he'd be the one holding the tap.

[@CloudyDaze]

Piotr Pilarski it's hilarious. As a person I still think Trump is a loon, but he got this far through his prowess as a business man and his charisma and even I got to admit it. It'd be unthinkable for him NOT to take advantage of this situation to make it profitable for him, and in turn the US.

[@anlumo1]

Trump has the firm belief that every deal always has exactly one winner and one loser. That's why he wants to quit all existing US deals, since the other side benefits from them right now, leading to the conclusion that the US is the loser side of those deals.

[@danbenfield3260]

The reason why trump will only make a trade deal in the event of a no deal Brexit is because that's what his Russian puppet master has hold him to do since that would weaken the U.K and Europe thus giving Russia greater power. He doesn't care about a better deal for the US, he's just doing what his overlord has told him to do.

[@stanklepoot]

@@CloudyDaze Trump has had a number of failed businesses, and others that are either shady or outright fraudulent. He is NOT a good businessman. It actually got so bad for him that banks stopped lending him money for projects. Then, he suddenly started getting funding elsewhere. While I can't say for sure where that money came from, there are reports that Don Jr. was bragging at a company meeting about all the money they had coming in from Russia. Thank God that's never seemed to affect Trump's policy decisions! Oh, wait, never mind.

[@eChuckNorris]

@@CloudyDaze I stopped reading and started laughing at the "trump has charisma" part...

[@demwz]

Why do you think Trump is keen on a trade deal with the UK? Because it is much easier for him to dicate conditions to a smaller partner than a big one. So rather than beeing a member to the EU with veto rights GB might become a vasal to the US.

[@mskittyiana1350]

Trump already said that the UK would have to agree lower standards else they won't get a trade deal and this will apply on ALL trading blocs, because for some reason people think the EU is the only bloc in the world....

[@deanwaller8283]

@@mskittyiana1350 of course it's not But it DOES have the highest standards

[@dimitris.mouroulis]

Trump's word is worthless anyway. Not to mention that he probably won't be president by the time the UK would negotiate wIth the US.

[@TheRealHelvetica]

So basically no change at all... Europoors still need NATO since their military aged men are just fat beta males unlike the United States and the UK.

[@generallee4690]

@@deanwaller8283 regulations don't always mean higher standards

[@juangomezfuentes8825]

I think it is naive to believe that a deal with the USA is going to be in British terms. I believe that the negotiation are going to be very similar that the ones Britain is maintaining right now with the European Union. We have to assume that the UK is going to need the US more than viceversa.

[@BalianofTheTube]

It’s going to be some 51st state of America shit I tell you now.

[@leanardodavinci994]

It's going to be worse. Britain will be desperate to get any deal and US will know it..

[@user-ys6pg1vj1b]

Not necessarily while it is true Britain will be desperate trade America and Britain have a very close relationship even if people don't like to admit it while trump is in power. And another thing to consider is places like Brazil and a few African countries aswell as china

[@leanardodavinci994]

@@user-ys6pg1vj1b It doesn't matter how close they are. Business is business. And Trump has a history of screwing people over like this. Britain needs this soooo much more than the US and it'll factor into negotiations. No matter how friendly they were before, I don't see them getting a good deal

[@pew-pew2224]

@@user-ys6pg1vj1b : You mean a few African countries and China - where the old British colonial rule might rub some people the wrong way? And that might rather have deals with the EU and USA as they are much bigger when it comes to trade? Oh, and don't forget that a lot of what the UK now produce is because of the single market inside EU and a lot of that might not exist anymore when the UK is up for making trader deals ... So the question is - what will UK be able to offer these countries that gives the UK a edge in negotiations?

[@BulletBill64]

While I feel sorry for British remainers I think a hard brexit might be the best outcome for Europe. There are still so many people in the UK who absolutely hate the EU, if brexit is cancelled the cycle of anti EU campaigning and obstruction to European reform and further integration would just start all over again. No deal brexiteers actually need to be served the humble pie they voted for.

[@Marcusjnmc]

A large block in the EU does not want greater integration, the U.K's place in the EU is leading & representing for that group.

[@mollyjoy1998]

I'm a remainer but I sort of want to leave with a no deal just to prove to the people who voted leave that it's going to be bad as we told them. I know it's horrible but I think it's the only outcome that will make leavers shut up and take what they asked for whether it ruins the country or not

[@Patricia-kk8tr]

Molly, I think that must be Corbyns thinking. He wants the errors of the Brexit campaign be branded as Tory, just as the winter of discontent is branded as old labour.

[@rime1585]

I very much agree with this.

[@mollyjoy1998]

It probably is Corbyn thinking but I just don't think we should have had a referendum in the first place but I guess hindsight is always horrible

[@garlicxlr]

HMRC: "We based our assumptions soley on EU being nice to us after we leave." *Why would they do that?* HMRC: "I don't know. I'm not a mindreader!" ...

[@rburrows3]

TLDR News really knows how to filter through the noise and deliver well balanced information. I've been following the Brexit situation for a while now and these infographic videos are great. Keep up the good work.

[@max201016]

rburrows3 agreed

[@_____alyptic]

how would brexit affect the E.U, please make a video on that

[@OneAndOnlyMe]

It doesn't affect them much at all. It's the UK that will take the hit economically (10-14%). Hit to EU is only 3%, shared by 27 members.

[@mururoa7024]

Well, for one thing, the EU parliament would be rid of those ukip scumbags taking salaries without showing up for work.

[@Britich]

they would need to find the cash and goods the uk supplies to the eu and they would have to find purchasers for the goods they supply the uk. both will have a recession. the extra costs to the 27 nations wouldnt be spread to all because not all 27 are net contributers, the costs would most likely be covered by france and germany.

[@dcbatman]

If you do a Google search, you'll find the EU will be financially insolvent within the year if there is a 'no deal'. The UK is in a much stronger position than what is portrayed by the msm.

[@unicasia5971]

It would also set a precedent that countries can leave and be free

[@wouterlegomaster746]

Lol, good luck negotiating new trade agreements, when 2 years of negotiating with the EU got you literally nothing....

[@Gaudine]

Blame the Irish and their stupid border and arguments .

[@SFledz]

@@Gaudine blame the Irish that their country is split? Umm, might want to include Britain in that discussion and what has happened historically.

[@Gaudine]

@@SFledz this is the 21st century now they need to grow up and leave the past behind and their stupid religion as well. People are getting shot in the knee for committing a crime, northern Ireland is like a third world country.

[@greenfox1991]

@@Gaudine AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH "leave the past behind" I saw a lot Brexiteer talking about the British Empire, they totally leave the past behind!

[@greeny202ab]

W B We havent been negotiating a trade deal with the EU. We have been negotiating a divorce deal which is much harder to do as anyone who has been through a divorce will tell you. The EU does not want to lose its second largest economy and by far largest oil producer and the UK does not want to lose access to the single market. A very difficult position to negotiate for both sides.

[@adam346]

those that benefit from hard Brexit: Short sellers, speculation market... those that get hurt by Brexit: mostly everyone else in the UK.

[@saikoujikan]

“It will be disastrous in the short term” but how long is he short term? A few months? A few years? A few decades? If the short term is “until we get a new trade deal” then that would certainly take a few decades. First we need to get our WTO schedule approved by every other country, process that will take many years of negotiation. Then we need to start talks with other countries, which could take many years at a time. And all the while our attention will be split between updating the infrastructure to accommodate no deal, that includes EU visas, managing EU nationals and any exiled British nationals from EU countries, working out how to resolve the good Friday agreement ones the NI border is up, figuring out how closely our laws are going to follow the ones we currently have... All of that takes time, manpower, and money, and all of it is essential and must worked on immediately. There’s simply too much to do for anything to be quick. All the while, the pound is set to nose dive, severely reducing the spending power of our country and its people, and businesses that rely on EU trade will be hit very hard, with small and medium businesses likely to collapse. That is all short term in theory, but it all adds up to a loss in time and available revenue. We can’t possibly do everything at once, so something has to take the back seat, either that’s the domestic market, the Ireland situation, the NHS, international trade deals, or processing of EU nationals and returning British nationals. Any one of these left alone will cause much bigger problems, be it a return to conflict in Northern Ireland, abandonment of businesses, economic recession, a mass of people stuck in limbo unsure whether they can legally remain in the country, a resurgence of xenophobic activism as seen in the 1970s, and yet greater uncertainty from the international community who will invest ever less in us. And it may not be one thing that’s ignored, but several. The U.K. will not be able to cope in the short term, and so these problems will persist and fester until the line between short term and long term is lost entirely.

[@candacen7779]

Well said. Many of those who support a No Deal Brexit seem to think short-term hardships will be anywhere from 6 months to 2 years before the long-term benefits kick in. In reality, it will likely be anywhere from 2-5 years at least before the UK sees definitive long-term benefits. I'm willing to recognize that leaving the EU doesn't mean plunging the UK into the Dark Ages, but the "short-term" instability could (and likely will) leave millions of lives teetering on the edge of chaos, at home in the UK, in the EU, and around the world. I say around the world because as others have pointed out, a distracted UK is a weaker UK, and that's exactly what authoritarians like Putin, Erdogan, Bolsonaro and Trump want. And that can't be good for the rest of the world.

[@ghfryw]

thanks!

[@ratchitt]

What if I told you the UK WTO deal had already been signed sealed and delivered, would you believe me? I am a nobody but I have a family member who works in Geneva who played a part and has been paid, plus bonuses, plus holiday for their sterling work some six months ago.

[@wputnam7500]

People thinking Brexit will be a 'short-term' thing in any respect are completely, utterly deluded. This is going to define the rest of our lives. We will be hearing about Brexit and the consequences of it for decades.

[@saikoujikan]

​@@ratchitt I would say what are you talking about? There is no such thing as a UK WTO deal. The UK is a member of WTO by proxy of being a member of the EU. It operates under WTO only in so far as the EU operates with WTO. The UK does not currently have a presence in WTO that is not connected to the EU. Whatever your family member is telling is either rubbish, or heavily misinterpreted.

[@mariusdragoe2888]

So a no deal brexit would create pretty serious short term problems, with the upside that there might be long term gains, but only if British politicians turn out to be super competent and able to negotiate some amazingly beneficial deals. Sound like a good bet to me

[@PierreRose]

I mean, they used to get pretty good deals when they were able to invade not developed / unclaimed territories, enslaving who ever was living there. I'm sure nothing has changed since then and also Mexico will pay for the wall ! (What ?)

[@ophu7760]

dw i heard british government officials are great at negotiating deals

[@uvbe]

There will be no long term gains. And Britain isn't able to negotiate any benefitial deal because it just doesn't have the economic power to do so unless it's with a thirld world country.

[@lebeaumuni6247]

@Marius Dragoe I love your statement so much. Especially the statement “ if British politicians turn out to be super competent “. The way two of my Econ professors describe it ( I’m from the US though) the British politicians and investors/political elite would basically all have to be clairvoyant and working together despite their own personal best interest in order for the long term decision to work out. I’m really sure politicians and political elites in Britain are much more pious and amazing in Britain then they are in pretty much every nation, right?

[@kangaroo2543]

@@lebeaumuni6247 Gee such an insightful comment. Only wish other commenters had the same vision.

[@TomK2602]

The way I see it I imagine the EU being like a house. However it is one where the walls are a bit crooked, people often squabble, there is a draft in the living room, and Greece produces a lot of dirty dishes and refuses to clean them. Also, an Syrian acquaintance fled from her abusive spouse and wants to take shelter and stay for a while, not sure how long. All these things can be annoying and stressful, and it's understandable if they make you want to leave. Some of these problems lie deep in the foundation, and some are fixed by just working together. But living together allows to work together on a lot of household tasks and repairs and do them more efficiently. Britain, being one of the earliest residentials, was actually very involved in building this house, and had (and still has) a lot of influence on the rules and design choices. But once Britain had enough of all the problems he had to deal with, and screamed to the whole house in a temper "I'M GONNA LEAVE AND LIVE ON MY OWN!", without having a real clear view of the consequences. And proud as Britain is he feels obligated to do as he said. While trying to negotiate still having access to some things like the laundry machine, storage space, and gardening tools, the rest of the countries said "Yeah, but if you want to use this stuff, we still want you to contribute to our household and compensate us for using it. Although you leaving will mean you not having a say anymore in what choices we make about the stuff you want to use" (May's deal *ahum*). This was unacceptable to Britain, and now it looks like the only way forward is to do it all indeed on his own. Which is like living on the streets and building a new home again from scratch. Which is doable, and the new house _could_ turn out to be nicer, but it's not super likely, and it sucks to do it if you don't have a roof over your head anymore. OR, Britain might just want to reconsider leaving. But nah, he decided what he's gonna do and plans to follow through, no matter what.

[@gargoyles9999]

TomK2602 don't forget that custody arrangement for one of your kids was that you stay in the house otherwise they go and live with your ex

[@pr0xZen]

* live partly with your ex. You intend to lop off his head and arms to take along to go live with you. But like most kids, he doesn't like being torn apart, especially given his experiences with past trauma.

[@edopronk1303]

I like this comparison. This should be made into a youtube video.

[@MikeJones-xl3ti]

Brilliant!

[@themodelrailwaymen3649]

We lived great before joining the EU cesspit. By 76 we were applying for a bailout from the IMF. Lucky we found oil or we would be history. We had a 10% drop in real wages from '08 to '16 when we had to call a halt to this crap. The elites in the UK and EU have made a pile. Not so for the majority.

[@jhwheuer]

I love how folks simply do not understand that negotiation is all about a asymmetry of information. If you negotiate with somebody that has a public deadline and public pressure to get a deal done, you call that a feeding frenzy. A deal that one party needs to get done quickly is a deal not in their favor. That’s why emergency rooms can charge dearly: you are not in a position to negotiate price...

[@Robbedem]

That's why most countries have very strict rules for what hospitals can charge. ;)

[@DanielJohnNicholson]

That’s why medical care is free in the UK.

[@roadrunner6224]

Robbedem the UK probably not much longer. The US insurance companies are already stocking champagne. Every trade deal with the US would involve the opening of the UK health system for US insurance companies and the abolishment of the NHS, because again the UK is not in a strong position in any negotiation right now.

[@quwokka-e5l]

Are you an American?^^ This healthcare example. But you are right, just a very USA-centrist argument.

[@blameyourself4489]

@@roadrunner6224 Aw man! That is not good.

[@karmagator2312]

I would very much love to see both videos. I'm not British, but it never hurts to be informed. If there is anything we should take away from this mess, it is that.

[@alicianieto2822]

I wish no harm to UK, and I don´t want them to crash and burn, but I really want them to GET OUT already, since the entire Brexit issue is sucking up resources and attention the EU desperately needs to invest in other issues, like the banking system, wealth gap, and rise of nationalism within it´s borders. I fear no deal brexit is the only option, given the situation of UK´s politics, and there is no point in delaying it. Let both parts brace themselves the best they can and get this thing over with.

[@ionlyfearphobophobia]

I can understand why nationalism of parts of EU members can be an issue for the stability of the EU, but what exactly is your solution?

[@alicianieto2822]

@@ionlyfearphobophobia , do you mean to nationalism as an ideology, or for Brexit?

[@ionlyfearphobophobia]

You said nationalism in the EU is a problem that needs to be dealt with... how?

[@ishidaxnemui]

I'd really, REALLY rather we just stopped beating a dead horse and revoked Article 50 already. Or at least have a second referendum to see if the country has learned from it's mistakes.

[@ionlyfearphobophobia]

@@ishidaxnemui Revoke article 50 and you'll see riots up and down the country.

[@Soordhin]

The 60 odd trade deals quoted are "just" comprehensive trade deals. In fact the EU has over 700 trade deals, including around 150 with the USA. Those usually regulate single sectors, like for example aviation where the so called Open Sky Agreement between the EU, USA and Canada regulates freedoms of the air, investment into airlines as well as acceptance of regulatory standards. Will the EU be affected by the UK leaving? Obviously it will, tightly integrated supply chains exist on both sides and include both the UK and the rest of the EU27. Some countries will be more heavily hit than others, but yes, there will be quite a large hit. Which is the reason, why in the mind of the EU27 they really bent their own rules to allow the best possible withdrawal agreement with the UK.

[@genome616]

No they haven't bent any rules at all, they have offered us nothing and leaves us worse off, Canada has at present been given a better core deal than the one presented to us, and they only trade a 10th of what we do, it is a negotiation, a game of chess and the EU will not budge until the 11th hour, this is how they have done all their other deals historically and how they are doing this, as it stands they are pumping millions into groups to try swing the UK public opinion and force either a rerun of the vote or basically accept the crap deal on offer.. they have nothing to lose not offering anything until the last hour but it is a big gamble as it may mean they have to offer more than they were ever willing to ensure we do not go WTO, the fact on WTO the UK gains 100billion on tariffs and the EU loses that much as a net figure is enough for the UK to stand its ground, the only way the UK would lose this hand is if we are not willing to go WTO or remove it from the table, this cannot happen as it is now enshrined in law we leave on march 29 - 11pm and if nothing is agreed then we are on WTO. The media claims this can be extended or blocked are ill founded, the government has clearly expressed it will not request and extension to article 50 and would only do so if it was to allow for a last minute agreement to be implemented, this extension option is only for such a scenario so if a deal is struck on say the 28th March it would be impractical to give the industries etc 1 day notice of what might be changes in our arrangements that were not foreseen. March 29 - 11pm ... remember that date, that is when we leave regardless of what you hear from the remain camp, all this new vote or take the 'no deal' off the table is just wishful thinking, the laws agreed by members of parliament on both sides of the fence prevent these options and to try reverse this effects not only our laws by that of article 50 and then must be agreed by all EU member states, without a good reason which ' I lost the vote and I want another or to scupper brexit' is not a good enough reason.

[@tomgjgj]

Forget it. At this point, they need to be taught a lesson. Let 'em crash out, I say.

[@genome616]

@@tomgjgj another ignorant one, bring it on then, the EU released a press release in Nov last year that protects many of the issues that remainers are scaremongering about in a 'no deal' scenario, there is no such thing as crashing out, we go onto WTO rules, that is a universal deal, the term no deal or crashing out are just remain rhetoric and seems your just another one falling for the language of the scaremongers

[@genome616]

@Tom J I would be careful what you wish for unless you are German or French who's economies are robust enough to handle a no deal scenario where we go WTO. WTO would force the EU to use the same tariffs as us but we can drop tariffs on external trade that currently the EU forces us to do, that would see the UK gain 100billion a year net. If you are like Spain who has a negative net economical financial situation where it actually buys in far more than it sells and the UK is one of its top 5 customers to export to as well as the UK investing many billions a yr into Spain than any punishing actions the EU try to implicate could and probably would crash Spain's economy, also look at Spain and where it tourists comes from? I have studied EU politics and economical structure for decades, long before Brexit was even a word, if you think the EU can just wash this off and let the UK suffer you are deluded, this has massive implications for the EU and a No Deal scenario is not an option that would ever risk, this is why the UK has the trump card here, we WILL get a deal but it will be on the 11th hour, this is our negotiations work and definitely how the EU does them, historically it has form doing this. Your response 'let em crash out' show a gross level of ignorance and also show you do not appreciate how vulnerable the EU model is at the moment, you wish could be the catalyst to decades of economical failures across the EU system, this isn't speculation anymore, the EURO has already failed and is been artificially propped up by the banking system, you have massive youth unemployment in many countries and many are owing bailout debts they can never repay... it is not if but when the EU collapses, and like the American financial disaster, it damages all the worlds trading economies, so you wishes on the UK learning a big lesson would also be felt harshly by yourself. Remember the financial hub of the World is in London and all the EU's finances at some point will go through London so it is in everyones interest that a 'no deal' is ever reached regardless who you want to win or lose, to wish that to happen is like I said Gross Ignorance.

[@martijn8554]

@@genome616 I think you're confused about tariffs, they are collected on imports, not exports. The EU will have to (under WTO rules) levy tariffs on UK exports to the EU, which hurts UK exports. On the other hand, EU exports could get tariffs charged by the UK, but the expectation is that the UK won't because it would cause quite a bit of pain. As such it's likely to make the trade deficit worse, not better. I don't think the UK crashing out is a good idea, but since the UK parliament has no majority for any (even hypothetical) deal, it doesn't matter what the EU offers.

[@richardscales9560]

Comments make me laugh. "If I disagree with you you must be biased"

[@TescoOfficial]

Well I mean that statement is objectively true, if he produced a video that was more pro-Brexit and you disagreed with it, it would be because it was biased towards Brexit. The same goes vice versa. Being unbiased should mean neither side of the debate is favoured or misrepresented, which is clearly not the case with this video.

[@MidgeCat]

“If I disagree with you then you’re Brainwashed”

[@greeny202ab]

richard scales There isn't a human alive that is unbiased on any topic.

[@richardscales9560]

@@TescoOfficial sorry I can't take you seriously with that name

[@rehurekj]

​@@TescoOfficialso your doctor is biased when they dont discourage you for example from chemotherapy and dont rooting for your cancer in exactly 50: 50 manner? being objective and impartial isnt about presenting you everything in the exactly same light- uk is noticeably smaller than EU in every regard so talk about uk as equally powerful when it comes to trade deals negotiations wouldn't be objective but the opposite of it, it would be lie.

[@a_c35]

The UK should have been spending the last two years talking to other countries to work out arrangements to be ready when they left the EU

[@jarodh-m6099]

With what time? They have barely been able to govern since the vote. Given May always looks like she is about to lose power, how would want to negotiate with her government?

[@Raistero1]

No country, that has deals with the EU, will engage in talks with UK until they have settled their relationship with the bloc

[@andreainzaghi7373]

UK did but no country really cared. In their imperial fantasy they really thought China and India were available for them, not to mention Canada and Australia.

[@shisanyama]

a c ask Liam Fox how many deals he has lined up. He said negotiations would be the easiest ever done.

[@vikingfyi]

Wrong, they should have spent the two years figuring out what the hell they want.

[@junkmail6206]

1) People seem to forget why the UK joined the EU in the first place, the UK was desperate to join the EU at the time. 2) Britain got the best deal of all EU members, this was thanks to PM M Thatcher but the UK has never stopped complaining and always wants more. 3) The referendum campaign misinformed the people on both sides. 4) Most of the british citizens I talk to don`t understand or don`t care enough to vote wisely. 5) The UK depends on a high number of migrants to fill jobs in many industries. 6) Trying to make a deal with the EU is pointless as the EU will NEVER let us leave with a better deal than we had in the EU. 7) The only option to leave is a no deal scenario in my view and that would be terrible for everyone. 8) Not mentioning the Irish border problem and the Scottish who want to remain. Good luck in sorting that out Theresa May.

[@andreainzaghi7373]

it was Mrs Tatcher who turned EC into EU and yet we have to stand all these brexiters, mostly right wingers, blaming everything on the EU. Insult added to injury.

[@oduco5348]

tbh if you leave with no deal bye great britain hello indipendent scottland and maybe a reunited Ireland

[@junkmail6206]

@@oduco5348. With some luck, I hope to see that day.

[@junkmail6206]

@@andreainzaghi7373, I wonder who the brexiters will blaming after the divorce.

[@junkmail6206]

The UK will more than likely still blame the EU for everything after the divorce. Don`t expect the UK to admit in any shape or form that leaving was a bad idea. Everything that will happen post divorce will still be blamed on the EU. they will say it`s because the EU didn`t fold and accept the UK`s demandes.

[@degeckosgalactica2623]

Still very optimistic view point on the consequence of no deal Brexit. Good luck, UK.

[@TheRizlaSlim]

The realistic potential is a hit to the economy, and potential tensions in Ireland (but that'll be the EU's problem to a degree too), some logistical stuff too but that will be resolved very quickly. Britain's economy is strong enough to withstand this and will recover. The EU will continue to function and potentially accept other member states in the future and will eventually break even on any short term extra contribution. There is a lot of fear mongering to be honest.

[@eoinbarry5162]

@@TheRizlaSlim You need to cop on and get educated. Throughing ridiculous and insensitive comments like these around is what is wrong with people like you. A no-deal Brexit could see a return to violence i Northern Ireland. This is not a minor issue. Over 3,000 people lost their lives during the troubles. Many innocent civilians died because of the British. I dont know what your nationality is but you need to watch what you say in difficult times like these. I would like if you could reply to this message and state whether your intentions were to cause upset or not.

[@TheRizlaSlim]

@@eoinbarry5162 No need to resort to insults and accuse me of being uneducated and insensitive. At this point it is being realistic, especially as No Deal is looking more and more inevitable. Did I refer to the potential tensions in Ireland as a 'minor' issue? No, rather I referenced it because it is a realistic risk of a No Deal Brexit, however I believe that both Britain and the Republic of Ireland, and by extension the EU will work hard to ensure that violence does not return to Ireland, It's not going to be like flicking a switch, a lot has changed in the world in the short time since the Troubles. It was your own bias that caused you to read the comment as thought it was written thoughtlessly, not I who wrote it so. For the record, I am British, and I voted to remain and would still rather us remain now, however we live in a democracy. My point was that there is a lot of scare mongering happening at the moment, and despite the problems at the beginning, which I acknowledge, in the long term both the UK and the EU will be fine. Going forward, I would advise you read political comments neutrally until you understand their meaning.

[@TheRizlaSlim]

@@saberswordsmen1 I get what you're saying man, but the world has changed a lot since the Troubles, and I reckon both the UK and Republic of Ireland, and by extension the EU will work hard to make sure that they don't return to that, even in the event of a hard border, none of these Governments want that. Scotland constantly entertains independence votes, its only Brexit that's giving it so much publicity. If Britain doesn't have a second referendum, there is little chance of Scotland getting another one for a very long time. I had all these concerns a number of months ago, I voted remain after all, but I've accepted that No Deal is almost inevitable at this point, so we have to make do and know that realistically in the long term, Britain will recover and be fine, and the EU will continue to be fine. I accept that there will be short term trouble though and we just have to endure it, not like there is anything we can do. I certainly don't promote hate or discrimination, hopefully there are more of us who don't than there are those that do.

[@TheRizlaSlim]

@@saberswordsmen1 In another comment a mention that it is a short time, but a short time where a lot has changed. I'm 28 myself, I was alive when this stuff was going on. Ultimately, nobody knows how Ireland will play out, nobody can come up with a practical solution to the border issue, you can't analyse something that hasn't happened, which is the fundamental flaw for those who try. Furthermore, I have at no point suggested that there won't be tensions in Ireland, I'm confused at where this is coming from, I am just saying that I believe all sides will work their hardest to ensure violence doesn't return, whether that succeeds or fails nobody can claim to know. Britain and the EU are at an impasse, all we can do is wait and see what happens and respond accordingly. No matter what people say, they get labelled by either being cynical, overly optimistic or overly pragmatic, that's another problem with this whole thing, people struggle to accept other peoples view points. I'm not suggesting that you are doing that however, and I respect your views also, it's just an observation throughout this whole Brexit debacle.

[@MikeGill87]

Thanks for using the quote from my e-mail at 10:19 - I feel this view is very common amongst the people of the rest of the EU yet very underrepresented in nearly any debate. Keep up the good work! :-)

[@j.j.schlachtfeld9325]

I'd like to see how a no deal Brexit would 'imact' the EU

[@CloudyDaze]

Juan G oh thank goodness someone else noticed the typo

[@wynwilliams6977]

oh look yet another troll bot with the same exact comment as twenty others, it wouldnt hardly at all

[@valdemarulf8481]

Great clear video, as always.

[@Eric-ye5yz]

How will the UK sell to the EU when they won't share the same engineering codes ??

[@mururoa7024]

Hahaha... yes, as everybody knows you can negotiate better deals when you're small and weak than when you're big and powerful. lol XD Good riddance UK.

[@sc3pt1c4L]

David and Goliath. Auf Wiedersehen Mura

[@etherealhawk]

At least we won't be hit the EU fractures. Two of your member states already have been stripped of voting rights.

[@felixleidinger1670]

@@etherealhawk Yeah the hungarian government lost voting rights for destroying the rule of law by undermining the judiciary and some of its own citizens sued before the ECJ. Thats a mechanism ingrained in the treaties and perfectly legal. It exists for guaranteeing that countrys dont become quasi-dictatorships, to be triggered by its own citizens. Hungaries government is held by a party that while being a minority holds a two-third majority over elected seats- and has for the last decade forcefully privatised or closed media stations and universities into party leaderships hands. Law experts and political scientists have been monitoring this movement intensely. There is only so far one can go without breaking the treaties in which a country declares to uphold the rule of law. Orban can scream "Soros" and "immigration" all he wants, he destroyed the balance of power necessary for a democracy, therefore Hungary has lost voting rights- making dictatorship and long-term economic decline a real danger for the whole bloc. Even his own Conservative European Parlament Party members voted against him.

[@Utiaux]

Muru Roa we are the fifth largest economy in the world while in land mass yes. But if you’re talking about economics then you’re spasticated

[@thetropicaldream5933]

You got to be joking...we may not be as big as we use to be but we are still in the top 10 largest economies in the world. Any country would be a fool not to see the potential here to trade especially now we are becoming independent and will soon be hunting for trade deals globally.. so no not good riddance. EU will be affected allot to..considering we are one of the main contributes to the EU. Trust me the EU ain't stupid they will have to make a deal eventually with us either that or they will have to drop their standards and allow smaller economies to join but that won't even be close to what Britain could provide.

[@stuckonautomatic]

"It was written on the side of a bus after all." Well, then it must be true :)

[@autumnskin]

stuckonautomatic yeah sure by a compulsive gammon liar! Go back to Manual lol

[@greenwolfegreen6028]

A no deal Brexit is bound to help both the EU and the UK. Bad agreements should always be voided.

[@ArBee123]

"Lets talk about the benifits of a no deal brexit: ... be pretty shit really to be honest." That about sums it up all right!

[@Calum_S]

I can't help thinking that a USA-UK trade deal would be wholly one-sided. It would probably also include investor state dispute settlement tribunals which should give anyone who hates the ECJ pause for thought.

[@mariastefanian926]

I really like the way you explain every detail in your videos. For me it was complicated to understand all the issues, but not anymore. Hope things will go to the best version possible, that can solve most concerns in a good way.

[@Phos9]

You should make a video explains how the EU parliament works. It has unelected officials but those officials are appointed by other officials who are directly elected. This idea that the EU had no oversight has been allowed to spread too far.

[@sc3pt1c4L]

so if you check out the background of a childminder that you want to hire, and that childminder had many references and a good background and you hired them, but they decided to instead 'sub-contract' a paedophile to look after your child, that would be OK?

[@Nibb31]

You're right, but the EU parliament actually is elected. The unelected officials are in the EU commission, but they are appointed by the governments of each member state, who are also elected. In effect, nothing goes through the EU that hasn't been agreed to by each member state. Which is why it's ridiculous to say to that the EU controls UK law.

[@BrnW1893]

For all of the people saying "This was supposed to be unbiased! But you only said bad things!!" Let's be clear. The title is "Could No-Deal be good for britain?" There are no facts... Anywhere... That point towards there being any good coming from No-Deal Brexit. So in an effort to find some positives the creator has asked people to email in. After reading all the emails the creator has presented the perceived benefits. Unfortunately, by being unbiased the creator has had to clarify that the opinions that have been sent in are mostly misinformed and then presents the reality. Unbiased does not mean that you present two opposing views as if they have equal merit. Unbiased means that you do not add your own bias to the argument. No-Deal Brexit is going to be very bad for Britain. That is the unbiased truth based on facts given by experts. Which has been presented in this video.

[@heathercameron1485]

To play devil's advocate here, when it comes to economics, all future projections are based on speculation. This is why you have a lot of disagreements with the world's top economists. It's not an exact science. The only facts we get are only after events have happened. The rest is just guess work based on various factors. The only hard fact here is that no one really knows what will happen after Brexit in the long term. However, surely that massive uncertainty is enough to make Brexit a bad idea in the first place.

[@annaturba]

Heather Cameron Yes! And that is also the exact reason, why referendums about things like this should never happen. It is ridiculous to ask the public to decide about things, that even experts can’t know for certain.

[@Alto53]

@@annaturba Ah so we shouldn't have been given the option to join the EEC then?

[@annaturba]

Liam I am saying, it is Parliament, that should decide. It is their job.

[@martynfenton4862]

It would give me more confidence if you could at the very least get the name of our country correct!

[@Alfonso88279]

If I wasn't spanish I could wonder how have we got here. I mean, how is it possible that the country with the best deal with EU, despite not being a "full" member, could make such a suicidal referendum. Someone could think that UK was too great, that they didn't have enough problems so they were willing to get into them. But I am spanish and I know very well how destructive nationalist ambitions can be. It is like a drug. The more you give, the more they want. The more different you let them feel, the more you praise them, the more they need to distance themselves. The nationalist sentiment in itself should have nothing wrong. But when you unite that psychology to the ambition of politicians, it is a cocktail of self-destruction capable of taking everyone ahead. We have seen it in history again and again. And we continue to seeing it in the present. When I was a child, we thought that the future would lead to the union of peoples. Together, we are stronger, they said. How naive.

[@StripyViper]

Alfonso Well said

[@mucsalto8377]

could not explain it better and be more confused about the British reasoning

[@FlavourlessLife]

British guy here reaching out to a fellow European... Please watch this clip of Guy Verhofstadt's State of the Union speech from Sept 2011. /watch?v=IJth-C4JMd0 I've listened to a lot from Guy Verhofstadt and honestly, he scares the shit out of me. He is a nationalist, not for his own country, but for the EU. He is a fanatic. He is claiming it's for the good of peace and well being etc that more authoritarianism and less sovereignty is required. He's negotiating Brexit on behalf of you - did you have any idea who he was or how he came to be in his position? Do you not see where this is going?

[@TheGoodyNL]

I would definitely like to see a detailed video about how sovereign EU member countries still are and how unelected most influential officials in the EU really are. Because as far as I'm aware the areas where officials are unelected within the EU are unelected in British, French and Dutch politics as well. Tl;dr: how undemocratic is the EU really?

[@edrose5045]

It's certainly an issue that needs to be put to bed. Particularly when you compare the democracy in the EU against the UK, you find that the UK has far more appointed positions and less directly elected or indirectly elected positions than the EU. The EU also doesn't have as much control of our laws as lots of people realise - they can't legislate on everything and can only legislate in certain areas involving the single market

[@James_Haskell]

Ed Rose and all laws need to be accepted by the EU commission who are our elected leaders.

[@tableface77]

Yep that would be a good video. Some myth busting

[@rehurekj]

the EU democratic deficit and the unelected politburo is more myth than factual reality- EU structures in large part are loosely based on German or Swiss model and they're hardly undemocratic. parliament is directly elected and has way more and still expanding powers than any international parliament and one can argue its powers are comparable to that of many national democratic parliaments just mere century or so ago. council of ministers is de facto upper house of EU legislature and EU states, their governments, send their representatives there- quite standard and democratic practice when it comes to upper houses, US states did the same before they switched to elected senators during 20th century. then we have EU council which is collective head of EU- each state is represented by its state or govt head, collective head of state is Swiss practice, too and i cant see any democratic deficit here either as all those leaders are elected by ppl or parliaments of their respective member states finally theres commission that is equivalent of government and its nominated etc by council( member states) and confirmed by parliament( EU- vide electorate)- again normal democratic practice in fact quite similar to UK one. judiciary branch also follows current democratic procedures and every member states is represented by its judge. we can talk about the parasitic bureaucracy and EU budget but considering the size of both which would be more appropriate for administration of some city of few millions than colossus with half billion ppl, bureaucracy of each( well maybe not Malta) member state dwarfs the collective EU1 by considerable margin. my point is EU has lots of flaws, and for UK in long term it may be better to outside of it( better for both EU and UK) EU in current nor fish no fowl state-which id say UK played a big part in shaping it that way, is often ineffective and it needs serious reforms for it to survive in long term but democratic deficit is not one of them or not one of the important ones at least. EU biggest problem and that applies to nation states as well is not the system, the institutions aren't to blame for the current state of things but the politicians who are running them. If we dont hold them accountable, if we keep electing them, if we keep accepting they run things in favour of big business on expense of us ordinary ppl then we will be in still bigger and still worse mess no matter if we are inside of EU or outside of it

[@swanky_yuropean7514]

How i see it is most people are very hypocritical about complaints regarding the EU legislative structure. They complain that some parts are not respecting national sovereignty where the EU is democratic (EU parliament) and at the same time complain that the EU is not democratic where it respects national sovereignty (EU council and commission) Well you can't have it both ways.

[@johnmoser1162]

Taking back control - yea with that bunch of clowns in gov and parliament, That will be fun ... pls more popcorn.

[@octowuss1888]

Sorry, all popcorn is stuck at the border awaiting customs clearance...

[@jacobsxavier6082]

The funniest is still when you hear guys like Boris Johnson or Faradge who criticise everyone in this affair the whole time. The exact same guys who ran away from their political roles when they realised in horror they won the referendum. Just criticising and lying but running away when they can do what they claim they would do with ease. This is how you got a remainer like Theresa May leading brexit, the brexiteers are running away from their responsabilities and the mess they made. It is obscene to see those exact same people bitching and criticise the ones who are doing the job they were supposed to do.

[@Wayoutthere]

SAVAGE

[@jacobsxavier6082]

@S. F. P. Politicians in the opposition do not lead, they are just opposing. Therefore, you can be a politician but not a leader.

[@Archangelsvoid]

@@jacobsxavier6082 Farage wasn't even on the list to run, he wasn't conservative. After David Cameron resigned there were 5 conservatives put forth to replace him Theresa May was one of them. Michael Gove was another who took Boris's place in running in the infamous backstabbing indecent. Boris resigned during disagreements with her negotiations. So no they didn't run away the resigned cause of May's poor negotiating strategy's. Same with Domanic Rabb btw.

[@bj2185]

almost looks like a terrible idea when you put it into an unbiased perspective like that...

[@colintipper1965]

Unbiased! Are you kidding? For example the EU trade will be hit far more than the UK and so they will cooperate and accommodate us if they want to keep selling to UK. Low skilled workers can still be let in on timed visas so we know who's actually in our country. Anyway trade is not the main point of the leaving vote for most people. We need to leave on WTO terms and negotiate from the outside and keep the 39 plus billion to help overcome any problems we may encounter in the short term.The EU is doomed so let's get a head start before the other member states follow suit.

[@KavyaGurrapu]

Please make a video of brexit and it’s effects on the NHS

[@dandavidson4717]

No medicines once stocks run out, no radioisotopes as they cannot be produced by the UK and are all imported (radioisotopes are used in 80% of all medical diagnostic procedures, we're screwed without them, and they cannot be stockpiled), lack of skilled labour, and much less money available to fund the NHS, lack of focus on NHS due to the many other issues that we'll face. Brexit & NHS don't go so well together.

[@wynwilliams6977]

the NHS loses money and staff it cant replace, in short clusterfuck time

[@andreainzaghi7373]

huge cheap buying for USA private companies, this is why Trump was very happy with Brexit. It is very funny that most brexiters ramble talk of "sovereignity"

[@joshuaatkins6944]

@@dandavidson4717 well it was nice having the NHS at least we get actual freedom and democracy. And won't gave to bail out Spain,Italy,Greece mabye even the shit hole which is France.

[@neelamashfreenhussain2167]

Please do! Definitely would be useful!

[@akirapunk4883]

Brexit never meant to be serious, how in the world would you vote in a referendum like that with just a IN/OUT without a detail, creating obviously this mess?? - the people didn't vote HOW to get out, so how can we grant that all the leavers are for a no-deal, isn't this undemocratic as well? - I can agree about the danger of a second referendum, but if that so, should we deny UK to come back, whenever they want to come back, because they have already voted? Please really I would like a nice discussion feel free to reply

[@sleachy1981]

I'm up for a discussion, but unfortunately I completely agree! The option that won was not prescriptive, in fact the Leave campaign promised all kinds of different things to different people. This is why it's impossible to agree on what Leave should look like, and this is why Brexit should be stopped. Any referendum with actual concrete options would end up with a Remain outcome, as it is so much better than any of the other available options.

[@sdcair]

The person commenting that Britain should be punished, in order to deter more exits from the EU, is an imperialist. Also, any disruptions to Britains economy will not be because of Brexit, but because of the continued existence of the EU outside of the UK, and its customs. The EU could and should just drop all its customs, and all would be fine. They always say how great free trade within Europe is, but they are the ones who plan to begin to disrupt it. (In all fairness, Britain could also begin to levy tariffs on goods from the EU, thus disrupting trade, but that is much more unlikely.) And I say all this as a German.

[@plasmacannon1198]

The answer was a hard no :P

[@rebeccaenglish4729]

Please do a video on how the no-deal would affect the EU and also the UK-USA trade deals.

[@davidharris2517]

I'm baffled by how few subscribers you have, these are the best quality videos ever made on brexit

[@tarnished439]

Such a brilliant disaster, surely everyone outside the UK is laughing at our folly

[@tajayatomlinson9919]

Not laughing, just deeply intrigued. Well that's for me anyways

[@matthewhemmings2464]

Tajaya Tomlinson I’m both. I find the show intriguingly amusing I’d say.

[@MrSHADEKILLA]

Deffo one of the best plot lines of this season

[@francisbrooks8533]

I dont get it. If being in the EU was such a good deal for the UK why do they want to leave? Couldnt the Remainers make the case? How did they fail to do this if its such a good deal? Remainers must be hopeless.

[@MrSHADEKILLA]

@@francisbrooks8533 because the leave campaign straigt up lied and is still lying

[@Ms-zr1dn]

The funniest thing is everybody talks about “the president of the port of Calais”... as if he had any authority over trade regulations!!!... 😳🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Benjamin-ns8ct]

At some time after Brexit when you are less busy, would you consider creating a video explaining what tools/processes/software you use to create the videos? A 'behind the scenes' video of a video being produced would be interesting.

[@Aldo_Regozzani]

And know it is known and for all to see . . . it's a disaster!

[@jbaggaz]

On LBC radio a WTO expert said that a no deal brexit didn't actually mean automatically defaulting to trading under WTO rules because we currently operate as part of the EU bloc - not on our own, as we would have to be - what he said was that we would have to have the approval of the rest of the countries that trade on WTO terms currently, and that means being at the mercy of those countries. We've already had several countries object to us trading under the exact same rules as the EU do currently, and, as far as I'm aware, there were 3 months where they were able to bring up any objections, and that started at the end of October, which means they currently have to the end of January, unless I'm mistaken?

[@blameyourself4489]

Yes, you go from a rather democratic EU trade system to a rather undemocratic trade system. Why do you think nations make RTA's (Regional Trade Deals) and FTA's (Free TA's) that are negotiated inside and outside the WTO system? Don't forget, the EU isn't the only trade zone in the world. There are another 17 almost as big. But the one hold by the EU is the most advanced and efficient.

[@mskittyiana1350]

@@blameyourself4489 And then people think that the UK will just be able to trade with any country... Their own trading partners will have to agree and even if they undercut the EU somehow, then the EU says to those blocs: Well you can't give them a better deal than us, we want the same and boom bye bye UK.

[@blameyourself4489]

@@mskittyiana1350 True

[@molybdane7240]

I remember that broadcast, but I came to another conclusion. Trading under WTO rules IS automatic, however, if you want to raise tariffs (above a minimum allowed under WTO rules I think?), you'll need to negotiate with the WTO members. Now that is going to be difficult for just the UK to get a good deal out of, that it to say, it'll be difficult to raise tariffs and work under WTO rules at the same time. But is raising tariffs, or having any at all such a good idea? The EU, thanks to its 'strong' trading position, has raised tariffs on food to protects its own inefficient farmers, all the while subsidizing them for billions. So can I present a clear cut picture on this issue. I can't, it's well above may paygrade and out of my field. I'm just collecting bits and pieces of information here.

[@blameyourself4489]

@@molybdane7240 But those bits and pieces seem to be correct. Regarding to EU and protectionism. Any trade union is protectionist, though, such is based on import/export quotas negotiated with other countries over the WTO. That is why Trumps trade war is going to fail big time for America.

[@sambiggs3046]

This channel deserves a far higher viewership than what it currently possesses. It seems to be a foreign concept within journalism these days to strive for fair representation and a balanced argument. Big Thanks TLDR.

[@malcolmtas5601]

"I can't read the mind of the President of France." I doubt if many Frenchmen can, either.

[@helicongremory8480]

I can. He's a complete moron.

[@Christinebanks11]

Macron , the modern version of Louise XVI.

[@kareemnishkor9728]

I don’t know what’s best for the UK, but I do know that the UK government isn’t helping the normal UK citizen. No matter how hard we work we are poor due to taxation, rent issues, poor wages, and overwork but no overtime pay. On top of that teachers have been stripped of all power meaning education is poor. Teachers spend most time trying to control kids rather than teach them. The UK needed a kick up the backside. And if No Deal Brexit is that kick up the backside, so be it. It might get worse before it can get better, but at least “better” is on the horizon. As things stand now, the UK is just a lazy figure rolling into disaster.

[@thomaspappas5267]

Just subbed. Love watching your videos! From the US and this is probably the best source I've found to learn about the situation the UK is in. Would love a video on how a no deal Brexit would affect the EU's Econ.

[@Conservator.]

Hi TL:DR This is your first video that leaves me slightly disappointed. The title suggests benefits of a no-deal Brexit but in the video every one is followed by an argument that in affect kills it. As a remain supporter I am longing for some counter-remain arguments to oppose my undeniable confirmation bias. (Still liked the video;)

[@FrankieHchannel]

Eduard van Raalte I was thinking the exact same thing. But generally, there is an element of truth that comes into it. Sure, either side has arguments for and against. But in the end statistics & facts don’t really care about arguments and they tend to favour the case for remain, therefore leading to the video clarifying some of the pro no deal arguments. The fact is that no deal will more than likely have net damaging impact upon the U.K., no matter which what it is spun.

[@markuskoivisto]

Were you expecting the claims to go unexamined and uncritisized?

[@Conservator.]

Markus Koivisto Oops, you’ve got a good point there. No I wouldn’t. I think I expected to hear more arguments with no direct counter argument. The only one I can come up with is: It would save the UK £39 billion. (I know, that would come back to the negotiations as soon as a the UK en the EU would be discussing a post Brexit trade deal) Edit: In parliament Theresa May has allready answered JRM that the UK will have to the EU because of other obligations in case of a no deal Brexit. So even that argument (£39mln) is not a valid one.

[@8Scientist]

Every leave argument is some idealistic goal with no real substance to it.

[@JoeWilliams-bp5nm]

Leaver here. No deal preference, too. I can't help but see the bias in this video, as with all the apparently unbiased coverage. Flagging up leave "lies" whilst ignoring the other side's. It seems like those who believe it will be the apocalypse can't see the opportunity it presents. I would also say that many no dealers don't see the problems it causes. I am on the side of short term pain, long term gain. I would have preferred a deal, but it doesn't seem possible, and I think becoming a vassal state is the worst of all worlds. The implications of May's deal is downplayed- in the club but no influence. A no deal scenario would force us to deal with the growing areas of the world, places than need our trade more than the EU does; be that African nations, Ukraine, South East Asia... Even a CANZAC would be preferable to the EU. I fail to see how anyone would think it a good idea to give up our sovereignty on these issues, even if we agree with the policy outcome. And just because the UK government has supported EU laws, often they are unpopular with the population and would never pass domestically (UK full support for Turkey in the EU goes against the population's wishes). At the end of the day, a no deal will be as bad as it's allowed to be. If the EU allows it to be bad, why would we want to be a part of such an organisation that would wish us such harm if we go our separate ways? I can imagine the negotiations between rUK and an independent Scotland going the way these are going, the UK govt would be slated, rightly so. The EU has escaped that criticism largely. The world is much larger than the EU and we should trade there, on our terms, 1-1, without the unnecessary domestic political interference from abroad. Finally, it assumes the EU is continuing as it is. There's little to suggest that that is a correct assessment. Army or ever closer union to a united state is unacceptable if it continues on its current path. Likewise, the cracks are beginning to show- north- south, east-west. It's possible we get out in time. In the end, it's become so politicised that anything we come out with will be short term pain. That's what happens when you leave people who don't believe in the cause at the helm. Brexit needs to happen when its lawfully supposed to.

[@astonm1990]

I would love to see a video on the trade deal with the US. Curious whether it will lower standards. Also about the fact that the US is much bigger and hence has more leverage.

[@beojack4592]

It would be interesting. But honestly this is probably the worst time in history for Britaim to try making a trade deal with the US. We have our first anti free trade president in modern history and he has been just as eager to tear up trade deals with close US allies as he has with adversaries.

[@aknopf8173]

Also anybody negotiating a deal with the UK would have good leverage because, let's face it, the UK would be desperate for any deal.

[@jonmce1]

As a Canadian I keep wondering what Brexiters expect in a trade deal with US or any other country. There is no doubt we will sign a trade deal with Britain, in fact it is being negotiated now. But what will it do beyond the trade deal we already have with the EU. What great serge of trade would the UK get? What has Britain got to offer that we don't already do ourselves or have other providers. As far as UK trade with the US goes the same question can be asked. Don't expect to trade with the US as equals, the US economy is about 6 times the British so don't expect any better trade behaviour from the US than Canada gets and we get cheating bullying and dishonesty. Consider also the Canadian economy is much more important to the US than the British one could ever be. As far as CANZUK goes Canada already has trade agreements with Australia and New Zealand through the CPTPP. The British have every right to do what they wish but the arguments presented here are incredibly naïve.

[@ellobosolitario879]

A no deal brexit doesn't stop the UK and the EU making deals after the UK leaves.

[@SamuelDurkin]

true, but game theory would suggest that it would be in the larger blocs interest to wait as long as it could to weaken the UK hand, and therefore any deal we negotiate with them will be done when we are in such a bad shape that we'll take anything they offer. (hell it's what they're doing right now.)

[@Christinebanks11]

The eu will strangle the uk once they leave l

[@SpectralTide]

Yes, please make both videos.

[@awakeamericanow]

There is absolutely no reason to stop Southern Ireland creating a real border with Northern Ireland, customs posts and everything that implies. How carefully I wonder did the Brexiteers consider that nightmare scenario. Anyone over the age of fifty will remember what that was like.

[@EdwardCree]

If the Republic puts up the border posts, then it's Republic customs officers, policemen, and politicians who are asking the IRA to blow them up. It's not a nightmare for us, because our side of the border would be open. *Blaming the UK for a hypothetical hard Irish border would be like blaming West Germany for the Berlin Wall.*

[@wimjanwieringa4324]

as a Dutchman I'm intrigued as too what your next video might say pertaining too the affect of a no-deal BREXIT on the EU.

[@legomovieman2]

I keep hearing that low skilled labour is needed and only foreigners can take their jobs Where? T. Near poverty Northerner looking for low skilled work for 14 months now

[@nastysimon]

Have you tried moving? It's hard but it's often the only solution. It's why freedom of movement is so important to the people.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

How about this question; Given your current position, do you feel you could easily move to a new trade given the removal of public libraries and privatisation of universities?

[@legomovieman2]

@@ThePlayerOfGames its why when September comes around joining the UOTC hopefully during or after university I will also learn a trade in that environment, my issue is more I still *want* if not need **need** low skilled work until role in as I'd rather not stay jobless

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

I keep hearing we can make our own laws after Brexshit. I'm legalising heroin and prostitution. Anyone else?

[@0xCAFEF00D]

9:35 I don't follow how it's an argument against a second referendum. In this context caring about democracy means you care about the representation of the people in the UK. Not what's current practice and attitude to referendums. As you make clear it's not even binding (which is awful in my opinion). Ideally you'd ask every citizen to vote on every single detail of government if you were to optimize representation above all else. There's nothing inherently undemocratic about having a second vote. If the outcome is to be different then it's more representative of people assuming similar or better turnout. The only reason you'd hold a second referendum is because there's suspicion of there being a different outcome, so it's by default not an option. The evidence to support the idea of that would have to be quite overwhelming. The delays is a bigger mockery of democracy than a second referendum imo.

[@iamhole]

hey TDLR anyone in your crew old enough to remember what it was like before we went into the eu??

[@Nibb31]

I am. The UK was losing its empire, closing mines, general strikes, an outdated manufacturing industry. The EU gave the UK a huge opportunity for transformation. Anyone who thinks that the UK of the 70's was all peachy-rosy is delusional.

[@thetropicaldream5933]

@@Nibb31 and was the 80s any better? Hahah bare in mind we joined the EU in the 70s

[@oduco5348]

hey Brits stop thinking you are one of the global Powers you are small and insignificant compared to russia US, China, India etc.etc.

[@Liza37hera]

EU and no deal Brexit video, please

[@dog-ez2nu]

Um. And what exactly do you get from a UK trade deal? German cars? No. Dutch agriculture? No. French luxury goods? No. The absolute cheek to think we have as much to give to other countries as those other countries have to gain from dealing with the EU.

[@dombower]

Seaborne freight.... genius

[@meandmetoo8436]

"how a no deal brexit could advantage the EU" Commenting as you said.

[@lepassant478]

Great video. I'm eager to see more like this on this channel.

[@AshaD2345]

"I'm not going to talk about the negatives I've done that in this video" - talks about the negatives for around 5 minutes 😂

[@mitchellvanstenis4222]

That’s because the reality is there won’t be any positives for the UK, especially if there is a No-Deal Brexit…yikes!

[@AshaD2345]

@@mitchellvanstenis4222 Lol don't make a video about the positives and/or state you won't talk about the negatives then

[@kaigreen5641]

@@AshaD2345 You don't understand, the best you can do for positives are the least negative things, that's how bad it is.

[@AshaD2345]

Like I said don't make a video then 😂

[@joshuaatkins6944]

@@mitchellvanstenis4222 it's not that bad this is just called propaganda you fuck tard obviously people who want to remain won't think there are any benefits but there are plenty more in fact 🇬🇧 just gotta use your head

[@T33K3SS3LCH3N]

The idea that Britain could negotiate better trade deals is HIGHLY optimistic. Britain alone has a lot less leverage than the EU. Just like some EU trade deals may have favoured other countries, a lot of them favoured the UK as well. Also, British politics has not exactly been working well lately, so why would it suddenly work well at negotiating trade deals? Chances are that it will take many many years and not yield notably better results. And Trump has absolutely NO trustworthiness, lacks backing even in his own party, and might well be gone in 2020.

[@barbararison4919]

Canada very keen to have a trade deal with UK and is already looking for negotiations.

[@robertmarder126]

Leverage isn't the only thing that matters in trade deal negotiations. Many EU trade deals have been delayed or cancelled because of the economic interests of a particular region of the EU that has no relevance to the UK economy whatsoever. The UK would be free to negotiate trade deals for things that other EU countries are currently blocking. Likewise, any deals could be narrower in scope and on more favorable terms as they wouldn't need to contain concessions that other EU countries demand the UK doesn't care about.

[@Windkind0]

@@robertmarder126 Yet: wouldn't it be unlikely that the UK could get any better deal than the EU would? Think about the trade deal with Japan. No way on earth a individual nation (and be it the UK) will get a better deal than the biggest single market on earth (=the EU). You might leverage old connections to the Commonwealth, but this will only get you so far. The increased distance between you and your markets is NOT a theoretical problem, it makes exporting more expensive for the UK and for some products it might be even impossible altogether. From a purely rational standpoint, casting all symbolic and patriotic feelings aside for a moment, the UK will be much worse off than before, and the UK will have to agree to tradedeals because they are EXISTENTIAL. What stops e.g. Canada or the US from saying: "You need this more than we do. We can wait, you can't. Either you agree to our rules and standards and give up any idea of self-determination and sovereignity - or come back once you are ready". Brexit is not a joke or some subjective reality that you can argue your way out of. Well you can, but it doesn't change anything outside the UK. In the rest of the world nobody cares about what Brexiters dream of at night. Ironically the EU seems to be the most caring party in the whole process, but there isn't much it can do - they have to defend the interests of their members against that one member that tries to get yet another special treatment.

[@robertmarder126]

@@Windkind0 You are correct of course. Which is why, in the event of a hard brexit, the UK should have a period where all import tariffs are suspended for a few years while it works out new trading arrangements, and where the UK government props up domestic business with even more corporate welfare to offset any export tariffs and encourage new investment in the country. That is the only way to solve the "you need this more than we do" problem. This kind of strategy would make the rest of the world want to stop the UK unfairly subsidizing it's businesses, and the only way to do that would be to have a trade deal (and the WTO applies to everyone else too, they couldn't punish the UK specifically for doing this). As far as the UK getting a better deal or not, the UK economy is still the 6th largest in the world by GDP. The UK would not be at a negotiating disadvantage with the vast majority of the world at all. If the US, China, and EU want to play tough with trade, there are plenty of other countries with smaller economies than the UK to trade with where deals can be done quickly and easily. The obvious big trade deal the UK government is currently exploring and should be easy to join is the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership, which is the 3rd largest free trade block in the world. Of course, none of this will be as good as staying in the EU would have been for the UK, at least in the short term, but it's not completely hopeless outside either, and longer term the UK could be better off, although there will be much pain along the way to that.

[@ionlyfearphobophobia]

The difference is ALL of the EU members have to agree, which is exactly why their trade deals take so long. On top of that, the EU hates one of the largest economies in the world, which is why they won't get a trade deal with them. The UK on the other hand has literally been offered one as soon as we leave.

[@stevkyt2374]

Another excellent video Jack. If only we were privy to all this information two years ago. I hope that MPs are watching your series. As for making up my mind, deal or no deal, I'm still none the wiser. It's a real dilemma.

[@sleachy1981]

Really? Watch the video again. No Deal will suck, and suck hard. Even though Jack tried to make a positive case for it, the arguments for No Deal were largely rejected, or at least heavily questioned.

[@TheoWerewolf]

One of the greatest myopia wrt to Brexit is the weird view that a no deal exit would hurt the EU as much as it would the UK. Let's get one thing clear, it would affect the EU negatively. It would lose £8-£10B/yr, for example. It would also have less effective trade with what was one of its largest members. HOWEVER... £10B/yr is only 1/18th the total EU budget. Not all of the EU's budget comes from membership fees. The EU would also be obligated to impose tariffs on UK goods which would either reduce the amount of money leaving the EU, or increase revenues collected from EU citizens buying from the UK.. which could be used to offset the losses. As noted, the EU already has 65 trade agreements and these would continue... but in the future, other nations are more likely to want to forge a trade deal with the second largest economic block before trying to get one with the sixth and that kind of hides a little fact of scale: the EU's GDP is US$17.5T while the UK's is US$2.6T. It's not a small jump from UK to EU. Worse, the UK is integrated into manufacturing across Europe. It works because there's no tariffs or customs delays between member nations. This would no longer apply once the UK leaves. Industries within the EU would experience disruptions and have already begun shifting production out of the UK and into the EU to avoid those problems. Similarly, financial businesses will lose their passporting rights (which allows them to operate in the EU) and we're seeing both UK businesses set up offices and subsidiaries within the EU to avoid this, and EU businesses ramp down their UK presence to a smaller, more UK focused set. In fact, the EU started preparing for a no-deal exit almost two years ago while the UK seems only to have taken this possibility seriously since last December. No matter how you slice it - while the EU will definitely take a hit, it won't be anywhere near as big a hit as the UK will take and the EU has more resources and is better prepared to withstand it than the UK is.

[@jackkruese4258]

Sad to add that i think too many people seriously over estimate the UKs economic abilities. Far too much of our exports now involve foreign companies either based here for EU access or we ve simply sold. Brexit could well reveal the UKs all too many weaknesses in the form of a sharp nasty shock to a lot of people. It shouldn’t be considered unpatriotic to say this either.

[@mrkipling3841]

If the UK leaves and is successful after the initial shock, I think this would spur other EU nations to want to split. Itaky, Greece and even France (once Macron has finished self imploding) would be top of the list to go next. The main reason that the UK would suffer initial shock is that they havnt planned hard enough for a no deal. Apparently Liam Fox has only recently sought WTO deals??!! If the government had taken this seriously and had decent plans in place for a no deal, not only would they have greater bargaining power with the EU but would also be in a position to tell the EU to stuff it.

[@Bolsonaro_em_Haia]

Sure. And if pigs learn how to fly, they can significantly improve their own farming. The odds look about the same to me.

[@russellwilliams9437]

Long turm benefits are all well and good how many of us will not survive the short turm ! How many small business will be destroyed by the economic down turn. Many are just scraping by now Will loose everything !

[@wynwilliams6977]

splitting up the EU is what Russia wants which is why the funded the leave campaign

[@Nibb31]

Why would it be successful ? How long is "initial shock" ?

[@dranoelarios4788]

Wyn Williams Russian bots rigged the vote 😂👌

[@netcald991]

you forgot to mention one small short (could be long) term effect the violence.

[@Three_Lions-1986]

Only the extreme leftist want war and they're a tiny minority thank god

[@CerebrumMortum]

THIS video is where you prove you at the very least honestly try to be impartial. We are all people, and we are all biased, but your willingness to present the "other side" honestly, it's great

[@1066ukjoseph]

UK people was only country that voted to be a poorer country

[@wojteklabuc]

Best thing coming out of no-deal Brexit is EDUCATION for masses. Some people can't learn from that experience because they dug out too deep or their skull is too thick to let any information sink through but most will learn about stupidity of finishing good but not a perfect business partnership without securing good alternative. In this case without any idea how to do business after "divorce". With cutting all normal ties to other partners of your former company. And without any ideas how to continue and without preparations for anything. With belief that denying will solve problems. It can't work same way as dislike for some physic laws won't stop physic laws from applying. In UK you had 2 valid solutions. Working on improving position within EU and UK was doing that for years. Or leave EU but with proper preparations and plans for action after you went full Brexit mode. UK should check with other sides how they see it, what deals can be potentially reached before making decision and then after making decision you should start serious work to get those deals done. But for this in first place there must be vision and will inside UK. Sorry but you had none of that. Even if someone had idea how to solve it, based on reality not wishful thinking , then there is no consensus about anything Brexit related within UK. And to make it worse you started whole thing by feeding corrupted and wrong data to decision makers - regular British folks. Based on decision made made in large part due to wrong reasoning now you are in terrible situation without common plan accepted by majority of Brits. So you are fighting with each other and you blame everyone outside for all problems caused by Brexit. And how you expect to get good deal if you don't have common and accepted by majority idea what you want. Based on reality of course. It's a comedy and tragedy same time. I was always sure governments in my country are one of most incompetent in EU and one of worst when it comes to dividing people. You proved I was absolutely wrong. And it doesn't made me feel any better. Contrary. Watching this now is just painful. I hope there will be someone with enough brain, will and support to lead it one or another way with minimal impact for all involved within UK and EU. Either with Brexit or noBrexit.

[@mucsalto8377]

no answers to your comment as it was reliable, relevant and much too long. Brexiteers do not read more than one line, mostly in capitals.

[@johnforbes8282]

we wouldn't have no deal if both sides made a compromise keep on mind leave means leaving completely not half in half out of eu rules. A level playing field wto trading rules, same for both sides.

[@James_Haskell]

John Forbes WTO trading rules is no deal?

[@AlcyonEldara]

"leave means leaving". Yeah that's what a "no deal" is. Or you want the cake and eat it ?

[@MrDzala]

When 2 sides are of an incredible difference in size, why would you expect a bigger party to give stuff away for free? This is not charity - they are looking at their own interests as well and to minimize damage from this. Imagine a lightweight vs heavyweight boxing champions on a level playing-field and the results that would follow.

[@etherealhawk]

@@MrDzala You clearly haven't looked at actual money flow. The EU has more than €90 BILLION in trade deficit to the UK, as in the UK pays that much for imports. If the UK left with no deal, not contributing anymore and not paying that, how long do you think the EU would last? They've already stripped voting rights from two of their nations.

[@lebeaumuni6247]

Ethereal Hawk if the EU buys all your stuff and you leave, who is going to spend money buying your stuff? Eu is the largest single market, they would get over you guys leaving and buy other stuff. Even if we pretend the EU would suffer, would you be screwed when the UK has nobody to export to?

[@riccetn]

I would really be interested in the how would no-deal affect EU video.

[@leebrown5685]

Your videos are very detailed and well informed. I did always think that every video you've posted is biased against leave, by heavily leaning on the bad points, so when I saw the title of this video I thought "finally you will mention the benefits". I didn't expect this video to be you taking all the positives that leave supporters believe are worth the risk and deconstructing them instead of exploring their true potential. I may be alone, but I can't help but feel the personal beliefs of the video host slowly taking over a KZbin channel that I fell in love with for being honestly neutral and unbiased.

[@mucsalto8377]

It is very difficult to number out the benefits of a no-deal Brexit if even the leavers are not able to number it up. It´s all about feelings and concepts, but not about facts. I really wanted to know it, but all I got was: take back control etc. What does that mean? Nobody knows. Stop immigration! Pakistanis are not EU members, so what?

[@Airedale260]

I am very interested in seeing a video on a potential U.S./UK trade deal. Thank you.

[@TheBayzent]

It will be something like: "you adopt massive privatizations (they've already want the UK to leave the NHS and allow American Insurance companies to take care of that), give us tax cuts and buy our crap, and we may give you some handouts, you slave. Yaaayyy special relationship yaaay" And even then most Brits won't understand that America has no friends, only vassals.

[@porter4216]

Road Haulage Association failed to mention that they employ Eastern European drivers on minimum wage, No pension scheme, No health contributions, No road tax, No fuel tax and 2000 ltrs of Eastern European fuel.

[@iansparkes3315]

You can still do that after Brexit. Nothing changes.

[@porter4216]

@@iansparkes3315 They would need to apply for a work visa.

[@d1353lp0w3r]

Another great video, finally someone educating people on all of this! Although I would say please stop constantly asking us to like and share - let the video speak for itself

[@aronenark]

"Non-partisan" is a poor choice of words here, as this channel very clearly has a bias towards what experts and economists have to say. "Objective" or "accurate" would probably be better descriptors of your channel.

[@waynestockton8953]

No deal is the only true Brexit and what the majority of the British voted for

[@EdwardCree]

Indeed. As has been pointed out by many, the ballot paper did not say "deal", it said "leave".

[@nicolaikasabov702]

In 2016 when people voted they did not know what they voted for & how serious things are, MPs need to stop saying we have to do what the people voted for, because it is not like that, lets the people vote again and you will see the proper outcome, people didnt know what they was voting for ...

[@xgladar]

what border control? the UK was never in schegen zone, so it always had border controls, even for EU citizens

[@spychodog]

5min 15 seconds of doom and gloom so far, I thought this was supposed to be about the upside as you had already covered the downside.

[@BrnW1893]

There isn't one dipshit

[@arfnore]

There is a difference between impartial presentation of the facts of a perspective and pushing, as fact, the lies and discredited arguments of that perspective! He presented the more realistic arguments in favour of a no deal brexit, then methodically showed the weaknesses and flaws in those arguments! Being impartial does not mean that you have to agree with both sides (especially when one of those sides is based on lies, misinformation, misunderstandings and a complete ignorance of reality!)

[@CJusticeHappen21]

EU, kick them out and don't let them back in until they've kicked the Pound, kidney pie and left-hand drive.

[@grizzles9988]

I live in the Netherlands and I am for a no deal brexit. You say there is uncertainty for me? There is not, the Dutch government and I imagine all the others respect us and I received a letter stating things will be the same as they would have been under a deal. The uk has over 3 million eu citizens while there are less than a million uk citizens in eu countries. The eu would be stupid to start a game of send people back not to mention looking like the villain.

[@eoinbarry5162]

Watch your mouth

[@TheNinjaDC]

As an American, I was hoping this video would fairly show the potential long term UK benefits, as a counterpoint to the several videos discussing the negatives. *I'm thereby left disappointed by this video,* as it mostly revolves around taking in users thoughts on how a no deal could be good, and discrediting them. Adding salt to this wound, was including & crediting EU citizens thoughts on how no deal is good for them. I don't like watching blatantly biased news, wether that is MSNBC, Fox, or Michael Moore styled documentaries.

[@Five050]

The simple answer is that there is very little upside to it, period. All the Brexiter's plans involve focusing even more on London's financial sector, filtering out manufacturing jobs for cheap goods overseas and canning EU migration for even cheaper asian migration. It could result in financial gain for the UK's 1%, but it's a far cry from what the "forgotten" folk in the north wanted. It's pretty fucked up and evil imo.

[@wynwilliams6977]

yeah it is because BREXIT deal or no deal IS negative

[@Nibb31]

It's not biased. There are very little upsides, all of which are largely compensated by catastrophic downsides.

[@oduco5348]

nagotiating trade deals takes at least 8 years nowerdays so if you put long term adventages up to 2050 then britain may have 2 or 3 deals by 2050 done

[@somebody4515]

This video is not biased, BUT the goverment and the media this channel watches are biased

[@perp1exed]

Don't forget, that even without the UK... the EU has a population of about 450 million. That's a lot of potential customers, and thus a significant factor when it comes to negotiating favorable deals.

[@shubzilla755]

"We're going to try to be fair to the opposing view here" *spends nearly all of the time attacking the opposing view, including calling them conspiracy-mongers* Yes, this is fairness.

[@mitchellvanstenis4222]

What “attack”? The facts are the facts. Like many people that have been fed false information by liars like Rees-Mogg & Boris and Vladimir Putin’s bots, you seem to not understand the simple fact that Brexit and more so, a no-deal Brexit will be like chopping off both of your hands. It will be a catastrophe for the UK. Just like every expert has been saying for the last two years.

[@shubzilla755]

@@mitchellvanstenis4222 Your decision that your side has all the truth is why you're getting Brexit. You do understand that, right? That you and your attitude (and the attitude of this video) are the cause of this? That very much the same thing put Donald Trump into power? You are the one chopping off your own hands. And no, I'm not sourcing other expert points of view. I'm not your wet nurse.

[@mitchellvanstenis4222]

“My side” are people who trust facts and statistics over feelings and emotion. And if you don’t have the ability to see the difference between those than I’m sorry for you. @@shubzilla755​

[@shubzilla755]

@@mitchellvanstenis4222 "Trust" "over feelings and emotions" You sure about that? Last time I checked, trust was still a feeling, mostly because it is. Facts and statistics are good things to trust, but are you trusting them or are you merely trusting that those presenting those facts to you are presenting all of them including the ones they don't like? I don't have a problem with TLDR News having a side; I wouldn't have even cared if they never made this video. But they did make the video under the pretense that they would show a good side to their opposition and then proceeded to do the exact opposite. For what cause, I cannot prove, but the idea that having (some) facts and statistics gives the right to abuse feelings and emotions as though such abuses are not factual is certainly going to take hold in those Brexiteers that had hoped for better in this video. When you use the word "facts" as a substitute for winning the argument (I.E. when you opened with an easily disprovable appeal to authority) all they're going to hear is "I am your better; shut up and do as I say" and that is how you get Trump and Brexit. (I am assuming that you're as opposed to the former as the latter.) The feeling that having the facts is enough to obviate your social responsibility to convince others is why Trump and Brexit are shocking to those with those feelings. "How could anyone have supported this!?" "Did you ask them why they did?" "No, I just told them why they're wrong." "I see." My side is to be opposed to Trump, to see Brexit as a painful and inevitable result of an EU that still hasn't figured out what it wants to be when it grows up, and to be opposed to oppositional practices that only deprecate debate and thereby make things worse for everyone because I can differentiate between facts and statistics and feelings and emotions. My honest and sincere question to the honourable gentleman opposed is: "Can you?"

[@loukotaification]

@@shubzilla755 Phrase "I trust facts over emotions" semantically means putting "facts vs. emotions", not "trust vs. emotions". Or are grammar rules biased too?

[@stathissim]

I can save you 13 minutes and 13 seconds: "No".

[@FlavourlessLife]

I can tell you didn't actually watch the video.

[@stathissim]

I actually did

[@brendanmcateer3489]

Make ALL the videos!! Love how informative they are so I would love to see them all!

[@JikoKinsoku]

12:24 It's concerning that your argument against "The UK's Sovereignty" is "The Unelected EU Bureaucrats can be benevolent." You even strawmanned the argument by using outrageous headlines as the example, and you didn't argue against the idea on its own terms. I encourage any Remainers to read what I have to say, even if they don't agree with it, so that we might understand each other better. The philosophy of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland's "Sovereignty" as a Constitutional Monarchy, is that among our population the individuals are considered sovereign by the Royalty, Our Queen, who allows us to live within her nation, who trusts and ensures for the individuals of her nation to dictate how the country shall be run, trusting in the divinity of the individual. I use religious language, as our Queen is also Governor of the Church of England. I'm not speaking in religious terms but philosophical ones that borrow from religion. Our Parliament is donated sovereignty by its people's vote, which is what the sovereignty of Parliament is meant to be about. (Well, the Parliament is *meant* to represent its people, anyway, it does a good job by-and-large with rather striking faults at times.) The second your Official or Ruler can be "unelected," you fail to meet the standards to those who believe in the Sovereignty of the United Kingdom. Whether or not the aristocracy is good to the commoner, or if Monarchy treats its Subservients with respect, is out of the question. Regardless of if we have more say than we're lead to believe, we do not have final say. Therefore, the Sovereignty ordained upon us by "God" (as in, God-given gifts and Rights, Free Will and the Will of the People) is not upheld within the European Union as it is now. Sorry that I had to say it in words that might be hard for foreign readers.

[@maglorian]

You make interesting points, certainly, but how does this philosophy with the House of Lords? noted, I'm Dutch (and quite pro-EU) but I seem to remember that this part of your government is filled with unelected Lords and Ladies. compare this with the structure of the EU, it has a directly elected parliament, a council of ministers (provided by national and therefore elected representatives) and the Commission. now, granted the commissioners are not elected, but they can be accepted and rejected at Parliament's will. Can Lords be rejected by Parliament? The EU tries to not only to represent its peoples, but also the member-nations and their respective governments. God, has nothing to do with it, which is the main formal difference I can see, speaking of the subject of one monarchy to another. I'll grant you that the EU can be made more democratic by increasing the legislative powers of parliament, but to reform the EU you have to be in the EU, and Britain could've been a valuable ally in that struggle. I apologise if my questions were nonsensical, but you raised some interesting points on the mechanics of government and I'd like to at least to try to meet you with interesting counterpoints. Have a nice day.

[@JikoKinsoku]

@@maglorian It's nice to see this kind of response. Your questions made absolute sense, I'm quite jealous of you continentals, for your ability to speak several languages. It's an excellent argument, the House of Lords is unelected, and the House of Commons cannot reject them, you're correct. Explanation of Lords and its place in the UK: But they have incredibly limited powers. They cannot create Bills, like the Commons. They cannot block Bills like The Queen. Their role is to scrutinize and can only delay proceedings for up to a year. It's like a neutered and powerless Aristocracy that is only used for consultation. 26 are Bishops from the Church of England representing God and The Queen herself, who cannot set foot Parliament (unless being tried.) 92 hereditary Lords, they inherit the title from their parents. Passed on to Son or Daughter. The rest (~700?), various Prime Ministers through time select experts in their field, and The Queen appoints them. After which they are permanent fixtures even to future governments. (It's not perfect. There was a scandal in 2006 when Labour PM Tony Blair was giving Lordships in exchange for cash. Lords are paid £300/day. Many appointed Lords are ex-party members on both sides.) But in the explanation it becomes clear, it's all down to The Queen. The system is meant to check that the people's will is refined and perfected into something enactable by the greatest minds in the country, without revoking the People's power. Sometimes it doesn't quite achieve that, idiotic bills still get through, or good bills become damaged. It's not as though those unelected in Parliament have any absolute power. The Commission however creates Legislation itself, as I'm aware, and has very little to temper its abilities to push that legislation through. *You may correct me and educate me.* Footnote: There's another aspect to this philosophy of British Sovereignty that complicates the matter further. If the laws of England are not being selected only by The Queen's People, those in England, then it undermines our Sovereign Queen and her Sovereign Subjects. You can simplify this as "Nationalism," but it's more like Commonwealth Nationalism or United Kingdom Nationalism. In the kindest possible way, that a person in Holland can have a say in the UK's National Affairs, it undermines UK Sovereignty. Have a lovely week.

[@jameslyon2338]

No deal by all accounts would be terrible, the UK economy has lost more during this brexit uncertainty period than the entire amount of money we've ever paid the EU for membership. There's no arguable upsides to Brexit, trading with us won't be as attractive as trading with the EU, our government has been in control of non EU migration since forever and they're constantly missing their targets for bringing non EU migration down so if you want brexit because you think it means less immigration, then you're not going to like brexit. Especially when you consider that freedom of movement already has built in safe guard laws that migrants can only stay here if theyve got a job within 6 months of arriving or enough savings to support themselves otherwise theyre removed to their home eu country. Every other eu country enacted these laws, except stupid britain. Whose fault is that? The governments, not the EU. With absolutely zero upsides to brexit, not even getting into the fact that £10m of russian money was funneled through Aaron Banks and the Leave campaigns, whats the point of brexit? There's no upside, so why continue self harm?

[@sc3pt1c4L]

so if we can name ever 1 upside - your argument falls down? Ok - the EU take 3/4 of our fishing quotas, worth £8bn to the Dutch and Netherlands economy - if this ends, WE get to have cheaper fish and can sell the excess abroad (China like fish) or fish less and conserve species.

[@etherealhawk]

Original poster doesn't respect democracy. You would've been at home in the Soviet Union I'm sure. Stop hating the working classes who don't want to be part of a federal Europe.

[@jameslyon2338]

@@etherealhawk Federal Europe is a myth not reflective of fact given we have vetos. As for not respecting democracy - what's to respect? They proved the result was the consequence of election fraud, foreign money intervention, data breaches, deception and nazi-esque campaign posters. You want to defend a 'democratic' result plagued with all of those undemocratic problems? I worry about your priorities.

[@jameslyon2338]

@@sc3pt1c4L fish isn't as popular in the UK as it is in other countries, but your argument is we get cheaper fish so its worth huge economic damage and a shortage of practically everything else. Diabetics don't need insulin, have a trout. Stupidity.

[@theshadowling1]

@@jameslyon2338 "Election fraud". You mean the charge that the Leave campaign was cleared of on all charges, and the Remain campaign was found guilty of and fined for?

[@mrhoppy_9724]

Fair play TLDR, nice to see some impartiality on the issue. Hard to find that these days.

[@sc3pt1c4L]

you should try 'im incorrigible's channel if you think this is impartial. it is even more impartial in favour of remoan.

[@aspzx]

So the benefits are there are no benefits? I feel like you didn't give the no deal folks a fair shout. I don't support any kind of Brexit but you didn't even mention the money that would be saved in payments to the EU

[@uvbe]

He mentioned it in previous videos. However, that money is nothing compared with what Britain will lose by exiting the single marked and other no-deal consequences.

[@ophu7760]

cause the UK makes more money by being in the single market than they pay to the EU

[@Wayoutthere]

And the money you will.....lose?

[@sc3pt1c4L]

@@ophu7760 we have a 100bn trade deficit with the EU - we don't 'make' anything - it is a net loss, one we pay billions in an EU fee to be a part of.

[@ophu7760]

@@sc3pt1c4L trade deficit means that you import more than you export [that wouldn't change to britains benefits with a no deal brexit] and a trade deficit doesn't necessarily affect a country in a negative way, especially if trade allies hold the currency (otherwise a nation or market could devalue the currency by selling a lot of it at once)