‘Could Be BIGGEST Miscarriage Of Justice’ Lucy Letby Barrister Seeks Bid To Challenge Convictions

[@christineross4155]

What about the man who was recently released after serving atound 18 years in jail for a sexual crime that he hadn't commited. The police had information that materialised later which proved his innocence but did nothing. That in my opinion is one of the worst miscarriages of justice in UK history.

[@blame78]

EXACTLY and they're charging him bed and board - FFS!!!

[@pippipster6767]

And what about all the people who are completely properly convicted and say they are innocent. Whataboutery isn’t going to get anyone anywhere. We all know that there are miscarriages of justice. We all know that people are correctly convicted who continue to deny being guilty. One has to look at an individual case. Referring to other cases is wholly irrelevant.

[@blame78]

@@pippipster6767 It's all relevant to the case

[@ncooper8438]

@christineross4155 That's Malkinson, and a recent example of how ccrc delays and incompetence can destroy a life.

[@christineross4155]

@ncooper8438 unbelievably tragic. They left him in jail years after they had the means to verify whether it was him or not. Its important also to remember that we have many 10's of 1000's of dedicated and honourable police officers. This tarnishes the reputation of the whole organisation. He suffered terribly but others pay a price too.

[@ianjohnson4987]

Thank you for keeping this alive

[@catherineshaw3197]

My gut feeling is she has been stitched up.

[@blame78]

I feel the same...........too many inconsistencies

[@kazsmudge5559]

Yes, by Doctors who won't admit to their limitations.

[@peefuzz351]

My gut feeling is you're a ckown! Disgrace of you people!

[@ColinTitley-bn6en]

Being made a scapegoat for the failings of the hospital

[@DeeGralak-Roe]

Rubbish. It's amazing how a skilled lawyer with the help of useful media idiots can quickly change the public opinion despite the facts 👏

[@jayss123]

Looks like the hospital are hiding their own mistakes. This is so frightening

[@louisejeffries7155]

I don’t think the hospital was I think they tried to do the right thing. They’re currently in trouble for that. They had both internal and external investigation which said no murders pointed the finger at the doctors I’ve believed for a long time I it was a few doctors covering up their ummm ?mistakes If they can do that and get away with it then it’s ultra frightening for all of us

[@johnhawthorn5393]

Yeah, that mistake was lucy letby. She's where she needs to be.

[@deliciouslyk3437]

For sure could be medical rather than nursing.

[@MartinBennett12]

She’s not going to work with kids or vulnerable people again

[@C4793-h3o]

Hate to say this but I watched a film years ago called The Verdict. Paul Newman as a lawyer, a case of medical malpractice. You would need to look up the plot, of course it’s fiction but the story can’t have just come out of the blue, it was just such an unusual one for a film. This case with the nurse just strikes a cord with me.

[@DavidEdwards-e6m]

Nobody should ever be convicted without evidence!!!

[@beowulf1312]

Plenty of evidence. He lost on appeal and is still whining on.

[@Commonsense-u1h]

@@beowulf1312 I don´t think there was necessarily no evidence, I just think the evidence wasn´t overwhelming, not least that several experts have now said they think that the stats were misinterpreted. Not only that, she definitely didn´t get the best case possible made for her. When it comes to appeals, the courts are reluctant to overturn convictions unless the judge did something wrong, new evidence has come to light, it turns out that a witness was lying, or there was something else that undermined the person´s chance to have a fair trial. Another problem is that courts are behind psychological research when it comes to demeanour evidence. Demeanour evidence isn´t all that strong when it comes to assessing people´s guilt.

[@Thomas-vg8ov]

@Beowulf Circumstantial evidence, no real evidence, probabilities doesn't always mean definitely.

[@theobjectivethinker64]

I agree, if she did it they have not proved it with the evidence provided in my opinion.

[@Chloeswalks]

@@beowulf1312there was no evidence read the report are you blind or just thick

[@gavinbissell8847]

Someone was found guilty when there was no evidence a murder took place. Thats amazing

[@frankbrodie5168]

Never had anything to do with the court system have you? Gotta tick those boxes!

[@damienadama]

Actually, check NHS reporting policy. She may, in fact, be guilty if she didn't report any concerns if she thought something was up and did not report it. The policy has been the same for years. What's so unfair about it now? What because she is a pretty blonde female. Well, the same policy has had the same affect on others

[@nickdandel5314]

​@@damienadamano need for this my friend. She is in jail for murder and attempted murder. As it goes she will be charged for everything that is out there.

[@JulieLevinge]

@@damienadamaguilty of murder?? Don’t think so!

[@damienadama]

@@nickdandel5314 maybe read my comment again

[@blame78]

This is deeply concerning for British Justice and the safety of babies within the NHS.

[@SydBaron]

Read the appeal judgment before you pronounce this little monster innocent..

[@Olivia-vn1tf]

When you consider that the NHS budget for defending negligence claims for neo natal cases exceeds the care budget for these babies then you realise the scale of crap care in the NHS.

[@Olivia-vn1tf]

@@SydBaron the scale of corruption in our criminal justice system is invisible to those that have had no dealings with it.

[@blame78]

@@SydBaron I have - and am a qualified Barrister - so thanks for that.

[@SydBaron]

@@blame78 It was a qualified barrister, a QC no less, who helped destroy the greatest all-round entertainer of our age. It was me who was responsible for Rolf Harris dying a free man, so forgive me if I am not impressed.

[@kieranokeeffe1363]

Thanks Mike, I have thought for a long time that Lucy was a scapegoat

[@HGG381]

Doyou believe in this b ,l?!

[@Ette397]

Thank you for asking about Lucy. Praying for her wellbeing.

[@gonnahavemesomefun]

Agreed ♥ and her Barrister's reply was perfect, respectful x

[@peterfraney7931]

I prey for the babies !

[@dianecameron137]

get help

[@Her.Serene.Feline.Cuteness.]

And the wellbeing of her parents.

[@louisejeffries7155]

Amen for your prayers

[@redrose8497]

I have a strong feeling that senior doctors made her scape goat to save themselves.

[@fionatudor-tompkins6526]

I am praying for her and this man let justice be done

[@vroom6591]

How can she be convicted on someones oppion ! Disgusting, imagine is she is innocent what she is going through !

[@evaflowervines9520]

This is appalling. Poor woman never had a chance. Stitched up by colleagues and framed by the hospital. Never pays to be a whistleblower, always thrown under the bus in the NHS .

[@Blackgirlproblems2022]

Stitch up because she was single and no kids .It's easy to call her spinner

[@watnamecaniuseforfs]

I don't believe the hospital stitched her up. There was a gang of 7 plus evans. Remember that consultants were told to apologise to Lucy by management after her grievance was upheld.

[@damienadama]

Check NHS reporting policy. The policy has been fine for years. Why do you find a problem with it now? Cause it affects a young, beautiful blonde female (no doubt left-wing). Where's your concern for those who don't get this type of publicity?

[@happyplace345]

​​@@damienadama I have two sisters who worked in the NHS; one stayed her entire working career, and she would often say that a lot of mistakes were swept under the carpet in hospitals. I've temped in the NHS when I was younger and it was one of the most toxic environments I have worked in.

[@happyplace345]

​@@damienadama...also, a very simplistic way to view another person's outlook, to base it upon the looks swaying their opinion. Very insulting and sad.

[@pw4444]

Poor girl, if she is innocent I can't imagine what she is going through and the poor children and parents. What a mess !

[@peefuzz351]

She's not! F you!

[@damienadama]

Maybe check on all the people in prison who may, in fact, be innocent, more so than Lucy Letby

[@richardlewis7498]

This is 1 reason to kerp juries in cases if we go down the road of mini courts then plea bargining will be the name of the game

[@JulieLevinge]

@@damienadamaMay well be innocent, 1.000s waiting for appeals court, which takes over 10 years! If your innocent your Innocent,you can’t be more or less innocent than someone else! But I agree with you in that I hope that more attention is given to all unsafe convictions asap👍

[@deliciouslyk3437]

Are you saying she should be left to rot, as she may be guilty, which seems questionable at this point.

[@angelvisions444]

Bless you Mark McDonald! Well done for all your hard work for Ms Letby. I hope she gets defamation compensation worth millions!

[@ruthbashford3176]

It has been obvious for some time that Lucy is innocent

[@peefuzz351]

You spelled guilty wrong

[@carlabuckle2106]

Except for the ones following the media narrative.

[@johnhawthorn5393]

LOL "obvious " the smart ones know she's guilty

[@FedExter-z8s]

She's not guilty everybody is becoming aware of it.and aware of this corrupt uk government & justice system

[@ruthbashford3176]

@@johnhawthorn5393 Lucy is innocent, the babies she was supposed to have murdered had post mortems and were found to have died from natural causes. If there had been any suspicion of foul play the Coroner would have been informed and the bodies examined by a forensic pathologist.

[@utubb]

A brilliant lawyer doing important work, exposing the worst actors in the misery industry. The idea this nurse schemed to the extent that she is accused of doing is simply ridiculous.

[@jamesduffy9946]

She’s innocent they destroyed her life as a scapegoat for a failed NHS

[@peefuzz351]

Wrong, she's guilty as sin. You're one evil c**t

[@kazsmudge5559]

@jamesduffy9946 or maybe just incompetent doctors, it was them that kept reporting her.

[@dianecameron137]

so you dont mind baby killers on the street then she did it and she belongs in prison

[@missmuffet3874]

@@kazsmudge5559it has been found out that the death of Baby O was caused directly by one of the three consultants injecting the baby in the wrong place.

[@backintimealwyn5736]

or maybe to cover much worse, that's what I think. I think it's much worse. I think someone else did it. We'll see.

[@johnryan2973]

Yet another disgusting miscarriage of justice.

[@Marigold-m2]

Remember 1) Susan Nelles, Canada - wrongfully accused of pediatric deaths - 1980-81 2) Lucia de Berk, Netherlands - wrongful conviction of pediatric deaths - 2003.

[@93jElwood]

When are all the media personalities going to apologise for labelling her as a psychopathic killer?

[@chrismith251]

Probably the same donuts that pushed for the magic juice

[@kjamo4928]

What do you expect from the gutter press, anything for a headline. I feel for her poor parents.

[@happyplace345]

​@@kjamo4928 I feel for all three of them. Each person deserves a fair trial. She should be released from prison until they have come to a conclusion based upon this new evidence.

[@kjamo4928]

@ I completely agree, Lucy has been put through hell for years even before the trial. I cannot begin to imagine her mental state. Her parents are not getting any younger and now have to travel miles to see their daughter plus see her being crucified by the media.

[@JulieLevinge]

@@kjamo4928Feel for her & her parents & all the parents that lost babies 💔💔 who were lied to, this has apparently been going on at Countess of Chester for years before LL even worked there! Utter disgrace!

[@lowkeydjuk]

There was never any evidence of deliberate harm.

[@knoxy6884]

There was

[@AJ-hi9fd]

I’m a nurse and when I am busy I’ve lost count how many times I’ve left my security card in the locked room and borrowed someone else’s to access the room. I’ve also loaned my security card to others who have done the same. You could argue that we shouldn’t do this, but we are nurses, generally honest all DBS checked etc

[@lesleywild8706]

That's alright then to swop your identities around as long as you are a registered nurse?

[@paulmahy]

There was a lady released after serving 17 years of a wrongful conviction for murdering her children, she was innocent and is no longer alive.

[@AJ-hi9fd]

@ The intention is not to swop identities, the intention to to access a room you need access too. The reality of working on a busy unit, is that your access card is the last think on your mind, but those who decide it’s a good idea to put everything behind a locked door don’t always appreciate this. Even a sticking plaster is behind a locked door!!

[@paulmahy]

@@lesleywild8706 As you're not a nurse it's pointless commenting on something you clearly know nothing about. Oh, swap, is how you spell it, there, my help a special person good deed for the day.

[@RobRyan-c3v]

Well, it's definitely not a good idea because of this case. Why can't you just wear them around your neck? So, if you don't let someone use your card, you're the bad apple.

[@mm3nrx]

This is getting very concerning...very concerning indeed.

[@BoominGame]

Yes because it means the real murders are still running free, besides the injustice on the girl of she is innocent.

[@peefuzz351]

The murderer is in prison.

[@tjfSIM]

@@BoominGame We don't know that any 'murders' took place. If Lucy is innocent the real cause is more likely to be negligence, for which the hospital would be liable.

[@BoominGame]

@@tjfSIM If you want just to get to someone, you might not need such a huge shell for a wooden door, but if you want to cover 'deaths', 'murders' whatever, then it makes sense. I mean did everybody behaved in a 'safe and effective' way and she didn't, was against?

[@tjfSIM]

@@BoominGame I have to admit, you've lost me there. I truly have no idea what you are talking about, sorry.

[@nitramnagev7997]

If Lucy Letby is shown to be innocent, she should be awarded millions when she's freed. I believe she is innocent.

[@kazsmudge5559]

@@nitramnagev7997 she will be.

[@itsmeagain7825]

You believing it doesn't make it so....

[@carlabuckle2106]

Money is not going to make this right. What she should do is go after the ones that put this circus together.

[@rolandhawken6628]

@@itsmeagain7825 No but the way it is unfolding does .

[@1956HBS]

I think so too

[@themaestro7600]

I have said from day one she is innocent!!

[@neilmclean4439]

That's just as bad as assuming she's guilty. Day one....Wow

[@bg1616]

You don't know though.

[@paulmahy]

I hope Miss Letby knows there is a groundswell of support for her and people are taking notice.

[@RTAC_1234]

It is known that this has been communicated to Lucy and that she is grateful for the support.

[@rolandhawken6628]

@@RTAC_1234 That is good to hear, one wonders the mental strain she has been put under and the effect on her / I have been rooting for her from the start the gaps in the case against her were alarming that they gained a conviction on such nonsense is unbelievable it was a witch trial straight out the 17 century and Evans along with Huges were the witch finder generals

[@fokkerfilms560]

@@RTAC_1234 👍 Poor woman. But my thoughts are also with Beverley Allitt and that male nurse who were also probably stitched up. Beverley would be due parole but she's stuck in Rampton psychiatric hospital. 🫤 I believe the male nurse is also a client of Mark MacDonald's and I believe he hopes a 'quick' reversal of fortune for Lucy will enable other similar historic cases to be reopened. 🤞 It's all so appalling.

[@louisejeffries7155]

@@fokkerfilms560 I have problems with both cases you mentioned There is things about their cases that I just can’t get past As for Lucy I’m utterly convinced of her innocence

[@RTAC_1234]

@@fokkerfilms560 It's important also to mention the case of Colin Norris, which is currently with the CoA. He has been in prison for 22 years. There is a very interesting article about this on The Justice Gap that I would recommend.

[@1956HBS]

I wish she had had this chap from the beginning, her old defence team didn’t seem to be on her side at all.

[@angelastephenson1395]

She stood up for herself against management and they didnt like it. Also if its not her then its someone else who up to now has got away with it. Good luck Lucy ❤

[@johncartledge7313]

I agree and i hope more prominent people get involved in getting this girl a proper trial not 20 years later which has happened with plenty others just a fair trial the public should know the evidence in such a case

[@HeyyyRobyn]

I hope Lucy knows how much support she has out here, even across the world. I follow developments on her case daily.

[@YA-qo7xq]

Me too 🇩🇰

[@Her.Serene.Feline.Cuteness.]

Me too..🇦🇺 I feel strong empathy for her and her parents. And as a lawyer, Mark McDonald has my respect.

[@HeyyyRobyn]

@@Her.Serene.Feline.Cuteness.I’m an Aussie lawyer too 😊

[@MsDormy]

The image they used to publicize Lucy’s trial and conviction had been altered to make her look less attractive. It was so cruel, what they did to her.

[@simpso0ns]

If she was actually guilty , her parents would never sell everything they had and fight for her innocence. The parents always know .

[@AddcamDX]

It’s an absolute disgrace what has happened. The word shambolic doesn’t even begin to describe this case and conviction. What everyone should want is justice and truth for ALL.

[@catherinewade9722]

I heard Mark McDonald speak with Dr David Bull TalkTV when she was convicted & MM said "there was no direct evidence" in this case. I am so pleased that MM has taken on this case as there have been too many flaws.

[@palemale2501]

A frame up by doctors who felt snubbed, one dubious medical expert on a mission, and a poor legal defence team. No death inquest laid any blame on her, and so far now appears some deaths are the fault of the attending doctors. No direct evidence of fact against her - ALL was circumstantial, and much is already shown incorrect. Her legal defence team previously failed to put forward a proper medical expert in her defence at trial.

[@rolandhawken6628]

Correct

[@simplesimon5739]

Poor lady. A malicious old man (Dewi Evans) and a number of Dr's who are not fit for purpose and have committed perjury have destroyed her life.

[@TashaCreatesStuff]

malicious and greedy

[@kjamo4928]

Evil, I don’t know how they can sleep at night knowing what they’ve done.

[@ronnieparkerscott6223]

Followed this... innocent, dig deeper you guys ❤

[@hazzard8760]

As Mark says " This will never go away" no matter how many appeals are put forward and rejected until the true facts are revealed rather than the hypothesis on which the case had been based to date.

[@FINEFELINE333]

The prosecution case was based on conjecture, opinion, speculation and dubious circumstantial evidence: There is no direct evidence that any child was deliberately harmed let alone murdered. The conviction is unsafe.

[@3chords490]

Demi Evans himself has admitted publicly in an interview that if he had been running that Unit at the COCH then he would have closed it down due to the sewage issues alone and not re open it until it had been sorted , and yet he didn’t consider the state of the Unit as a possible alternative explanation for the deaths.

[@ElleN-ip4fj]

Who the fuck is Demi ?? It’s Dewi !!

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Let’s remember, if you read the New Yorker article, that Dewi Evans’ evidence in another court case was deemed inadmissible and one sided.

[@nigeljacklin2356]

This is great news...many statisticians (myself included) feel the shift sheet evidence (alleging Letby was present at all deaths) was questionable and we found out that there were many other potential explanations...including poor management and low attendance by consultants. Richard Gill has said much about this.

[@starwood213]

Maybe there were even environmental contributors but without a contemporaneous crime scene any such factors cannot be taken into account.

[@HENNAtabasun1990]

Another NHS Nurse scapegoated for Not fit to practice Drs Gross failings. LUCY SHIULD BE RELEASED TODAY.

[@gonnahavemesomefun]

"The law is a ass"

[@elijahmichaels175]

I REALLY REALY APRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR LUCY YOU YOURSELF GIVE WHEN SHE IS FREED YOU HAVE HELPED HER ..THANKU

[@ElleN-ip4fj]

Lol freed ?? She will die in jail !!!

[@katelewis536]

Her so called confession. I can easily imagine myself writing that kind of thing in her position. Bafflement can lead to feelings of guilt.

[@Blackgirlproblems2022]

She was in therapy they told her to write down her feelings

[@gonnahavemesomefun]

Exactly. Lucy was being told her care had caused the deaths, so she was beginning to blame herself. Poor girl. And those poor parents being lead to believe their babies died at her hands.

[@blame78]

@@gonnahavemesomefun self recrimination is very common

[@gonnahavemesomefun]

@@blame78 when innocent, do you mean? EDIT: I went and looked at the legal definition and compared it to the common day use, namely of a feeling of guilt. The legal definition discussed it as applicable to either an innocent and guilty person.

[@shinelight727]

Her councillor advised her to wright down her thoughts and feelings

[@denise4487]

If the LEAD prosecution witness has changed his mind it proves he wasnt giving evidence with FACTS just OPINIONS . There is no direct evidence ive listened to the prosecution KC

[@93jElwood]

He was giving an opinion that the court treated as factuak evidence. He misled the jury

[@JulieLevinge]

@@93jElwoodVolunteered himself & trousered 50 grand!!

[@louisejeffries7155]

Was it an opinion? Goodness I thought he was telling a Disney story - you know all fanciful made up stuff that’s really scary until a hero steps up

[@artsy38]

No real evidence it's a joke and nurses should be worried

[@markpage5485]

She's a patsy for the doctors on the ward who were guilty of incompetence and negligence, at least one gave evidence against her at the trial.

[@OfficerFredPowell]

"Innocent until proven guilty..."

[@handledotcom]

It should be 'presumed innocent until proven guilty.'

[@OfficerFredPowell]

​@@handledotcomNow there could be bail by appeal, but that'sh something to be discussed by an Attorney.

[@Norreck]

@@handledotcomYou know what? Go sit under a tree!

[@louisejeffries7155]

Means what? Jail till court ? Certainly in Lucy’s case That’s okay because really serious stuff was falsified to ensure that she was found guilty So all those years in jail before trial you know when she was still presumed innocent they were not wasted And they don’t need to be accounted against her sentence either because she got whole of life What is this notion “(presumably) innocent until proven guilty” that you speak of Lucy was presumed guilty from the moment the one person we know actually DiID murder at least one baby (I believe more) went to the police He worked solidly to develop suspicion about Lucy for months first though Then sat and ‘I can not remember” or “I can not answer that question” while a potentially innocent woman goes to jail for whole of life What kind of person is that - despicable Innocent until proven guilty - come on now

[@Norreck]

@@louisejeffries7155 Woah. Is that right? How could they possibly do thish? Is this his way of getting out of his responsibilities, is this the way he acts?

[@jab-gn3sw]

The State persecution of a nurse , the Judiciary is broken completely

[@hugosantinhos1066]

what about her notes?

[@jonelson1983]

You seem to think that because she was a 'nurse' that somehow makes her completely above suspicion? I take it you think a doctor has never killed anyone either?

[@not2longnow]

Two tier kangaroo courts

[@kendrapinder7277]

Because the big wigs at the NHS would never ever stitch up anyone to cover their arses 🙄 Too many forget how utterly shite the NHS can be

[@scroggins100]

The more that comes out about this the more it smells!

[@DuffMan.]

Cover up + Trial by media = modern justice.

[@stevegregson4357]

This lady was convicted of the most serious of offences purely on flawed medical opinion and that she happened to be on duty on some not all of the deaths of very sick babies !!! That’s it

[@suzzieblue1988]

It was a successful whitch hunt as its stopped other nurses from speaking out and some are even leaving in fear.

[@vasilemarcoros443]

Question of the century: " Will anyone pay for the misjudgment, destroying the very life of an innocent. woman?! " Answer?! Who will give an answer?!

[@holycannoli64]

She's completely innocent. There's absolutely no evidence of murder. There's simply no evidence that she murdered anyone.

[@knoxy6884]

There is.

[@holycannoli64]

@knoxy6884 oh no there isn't... What is it then? That she was at work a lot on a rota 😂 There isn't even any pathological evidence that any of the babies were murdered. What would you know about it anyway? You're not a forensic expert 😂

[@knoxy6884]

@@holycannoli64 And you are? Well firstly, she was the only nurse to be on shift for the death of each individual baby. Secondly, the post mortem xrays showed that air was present in the bloodstream of many of the babies. The immunoassay tests found high levels of insulin in the blood and low levels of C-peptide meaning the insulin had not been naturally produced, someone administered it externally. Those 3 pieces of evidence along with consultants suspicions, hand written notes found in her bedroom and the fact that she searched the families of the victims on social media is enough to convict her. Stop being an armchair conspiracy theorist. The babies were murdered, she killed them and you are defending her.

[@holycannoli64]

@knoxy6884 rota evidence was invalid as per the Royal Statistical Society advice. Look it up. Exogenous insulin theory is invalid as the sample wasn't processed by the forensic reference lab in Guildford. Dewi can't make his mind up about the BS theories he fed to the witless jurors. A plethora of independent expert neonatologists say old Dewi was talking complete nonsense. No armchair conspiracy. Just another gross miscarriage of justice. Just like Prof Sir Roy Meadow. It's a pity you lack the discernment to recognise what is quite plain to people who do know about these things.

[@holycannoli64]

@@knoxy6884 I'm waiting for you to cite actual evidence that someone was murdered and that Letby was the murderer. Nothing you said is proof of murder, or do you not realise that? 😂 Consultant's suspicions? Seriously? You should hear yourself 😂

[@TartanBlondie100]

I just can’t get my head around going to uni for 3-4 years for this job/position to then start murdering babies. It’s madness none of it adds up. Devastating for all the families involved ❤️

[@shazj2210]

She is a scapegoat

[@ElleN-ip4fj]

And you’re just a goat !

[@GregPodster133]

In my humble opinion, she has been used as a scapegoat by someone 'Higher up' in the profession, who probably wasn't trained in the uk. 🤔. I just wonder how many babies have sadly died ( at the Countess of Chester ) since she was arrested ?.

[@louisejeffries7155]

Lucy is not serving ‘time’ She’s serving ‘whole of life’ On the evidence of a quack and at least in one case (I believe two) for the failings of a ummm ?doctor

[@andybolton4773]

There’s no winners in this case , spare a thought for the poor parents of these little babies. Completely tragic all round!

[@OfficerFredPowell]

This is deformation of character on a whole new level...

[@robleeuknhl3345]

No evidence against her what so ever

[@geordiemark7901]

yeah looks as though

[@greigsanderson]

Apart from every time she was on shift, babies would die?

[@simplesimon5739]

​@greigsanderson 31 deaths in all. A good number after she was removed from the unit. Why did the Dr's record deaths as Sepsis?

[@DeanHall1958]

@@greigsandersonthere were other children who passed away before she started at the hospital and afterwards once she had left her position due to this case. Circumstantial evidence is not enough to send someone to prison on a whole life term. Especially as an awful lot of this evidence is now being brought into question and doubts raised.

[@every2464]

@@greigsanderson Correlation doesn't equal causation. They've got the former head of the Royal National Society of Statistics putting his expertise on this, as well as his reputation - and if you'd actually listened, you'd hear that plenty of passings occurred when she wasn't on shift. But I'm sure that will be a moot point a statitician can make clear if he's afforded to give evidence in appeal.

[@mikedavis9130]

with trust in our institutions in the gutter it is not hard to believe a miscarriage of justice could happen. it happens all the time, espically if you are poor.

[@jb-zr4ez]

The parents need to know with certainty if their child was indeed murdered or died through medical negligence. For the courts to refuse another look at this would be an injustice to the babies and their parents.

[@watnamecaniuseforfs]

Baby D mother had an inquest about to commence.....but it was stopped so police could investigate Lucy.

[@missyks]

It smells fishy since day 1. Her new lawyer is doing a good job for justice.

[@louismcteggart]

Derry Evans changing his story is huge

[@howardroberts5015]

A similar incident happened in Spain several years ago, and after a number of years in prison was released due to a miscarriage of justice.

[@robertphillips2467]

They cherrypicked the deaths. Didn't consider the other door for access / egress to the ward without logged pass swipes. Didn't consider latency between when something is administered and when it has and effect. Prosecution expert Dewi Evans behaviour seems a bit odd - uncharectaristically for people in his position put himself forward rather than been asked. Dewi Evans changing a cause of death after a murder conviction. The doctor that waited for months before saying he saw her killing a baby. The fact that MD in Private Eye has been writing about all this for months in the well respected fortnightly publication. The fact that in every Eye article they reference respected Doctors, Paediatricians, Pathologists, Statisticians, Level 3 Nurses etc etc that seem to be or are supporting Letby's innocence and that the conviction is built on sand.

[@6lr6ak6]

So unfair she's been stitched up for the huge mistakes of the hospital. I hope she gets her freedom and the one's involved go to prison.

[@bigmartin]

British justice has a long history of mischarges of justice, off the top of my head there’s Derek Bentley, hanged and later exonerated, the Birmingham Six who were each given 21 life sentences which were later overturned. Lucy is another one to add to that list

[@keithc9461]

Women don't do the thing she is accused of, very rare, this case needs look into

[@davidkemball-cook559]

'Biggest miscarriage of justice ever'? Yes maybe, but up there must also be the cases of the Guildford Four, Maguire Seven, Birmingham Six, Andrew Malkinson, Sally Clark, Post Office prosecutions of postmasters ...

[@danzigvssartre]

Thought her conviction was suspicious from the start.

[@robertmason6366]

Ive looked at quite a few in depth documentaries and my conclusion is mike many cases front line staff have been made to carry the can for senior management gross incompetence. The fact they were extremely short staffed and Lucy was providing cover with long hours made her vulnerable for blame. It was shown that she was on shift for nearly all deaths etc. However the time sheet shown only showd a selected period where she was on every shift which would naturally make you fit the criteria. However the following time period where she had less shifts, deaths were happening whilst she was off duty. This was hidden from the jury. All here front line colleagues thinks shes innocent.

[@bobtudbury8505]

and this is the reason we do not have the death penality

[@rolandhawken6628]

I would say locking up a young woman for her entire life is an evil inhuman thing to do guilty or not guilty , the penal system should not be about revenge ,but rehabilitating

[@stuartbeck8111]

Never believed she was guilty. The whole case stinks of mis carriage yet again,

[@harmoniefaerielove]

Lucy is in my prayers each night. 🙏This is one of the biggest stitch ups on a grand scale in history...

[@Telabib-q2d]

I am glad to hear that.

[@bg1616]

Your confidence should correlate with the evidence. You sound like you've ignored it all and gone with your emotions

[@harmoniefaerielove]

@@bg1616 Try working in the NHS . You will see just how prevelent ,Scapegoating,falsification & routine denial happens, on an hourly not just a daily basis. Speak out & you get dissapeared very quickly.....

[@not2longnow]

​@@bg1616what evidence? Your emotional response from listening to MSM is double standards.

[@bg1616]

​@@not2longnowI'm not saying one way or another which is the whole point. You might want to check your assumptions while reading comments, I think emotions might be affecting your objectivity. read what I said, that confidence should correlate with the evidence.

[@susiegreaves7283]

There are a number of individuals who will be feeling a great sense of dread right now. Blaming this nurse for failings in the system is a dreadful thing to have on your conscience.

[@Oceanfoxy]

Something was always wrong with this case. They needed to know there was a murder before putting someone on trial.

[@Oceanfoxy]

I didn’t ever hear of there was evidence of insulin going missing? Would that not be traceable? I never heard that evidence just accusation she used the drug but not that there was anything missing. Also she was the most trained nurse to work with those babies so why would her presence be evidence?

[@CharliStar]

As an adult who has a gastric tube…. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that “air into the gastric tube” is not what caused any death…!!! All that happens if you put air into a gastric tube - is you get filled with air! If it’s a new tube it might be a little painful - but the only thing that happens, with air in your stomach: *You burp… THATS IT!!!*

[@SuperBoomslang]

I think you are trying to make her look guilty by showing photos of her pulling crazy faces when out drinking with her friends. It's shameful the way the press use private material to influence public opinion.

[@frankedwardcurry]

Totally Agree - Gutter Press !

[@John-p7i5g]

She has no motive, but the motives to have her stitched up are very strong.

[@bg1616]

How do you know she had no motive? What was Fred West's motive? Harold Shipmans?

[@John-p7i5g]

@@bg1616 I don't know about Fred West but Shipman had prior form going back to childhood. He was obsessed with death.

[@bg1616]

@@John-p7i5g He has his own reason, be it trauma from having to treat his his dying mother as a child or the thrill of looting the victims of possessions, I think if Lucy was guilty she has her own fixation. She doesn't need a motive because the crime of killing babies is motiveless in the traditional sense.

[@bg1616]

@@John-p7i5g exactly

[@nosmokeey]

She’s innocent, the guilty party in this SAD SHAMBLES is the nhs, the way it is run and overzealous prosecutors 🤦‍♀️

[@alecjefferson6993]

I do hope Lucy gets a retrial ❤ the jury was not given all the evidence. It all looks very dodgy 🥰

[@stevenporter4845]

This won’t sit down until there has been another trial.

[@templar-asimov9252]

I always thought that circumstantial evidence couldn’t be used in a court of law. I guess they’ll be allowing hearsay next.

[@jeremyjay6044]

Lucy is innocent. If you want to murder little babies on a neonatal ward without it showing up in the blood results or at the autopsy, or due to the monitor records then it is almost impossible to do this. As a relatively new nurse, her level of knowledge would make it so difficult that her chances of success are vanishingly small. She is not stupid, so she would know this. So if she managed to find a method the first time which left no trace and was not suspicious the last thing she would do is to use two or three other methods?? Why change? If she is innocent of some of the deaths then the case against her for the others collapses because it was all based on the hypothosies of Dr Evans. No proof. Also, if she was really doing a bit of mass murder, why buy a house?? Why didn't she use her savings to have a great time before her inevitable conviction, particularly if she was trying different murder methods? And why was she paying for councelling before her trial ? People only need councelling for things that are unexpected and not for an entirely predictable situation. She would only want councelling because she was being blamed for reasons that made no sense to her, because she is innocent. Her conviction makes no psychological sense.

[@knoxy6884]

You're clutching at straws. It's been done before. Beverley Allitt did it and thought she wouldn't get caught, but did. What does a house have to do with it? You do know that serial killers try to cover their tracks and try their best to pretend they are normal, right?

[@mrcjc9298]

In the UK it’s almost considered an unforgivable sin to speak against the NHS. Like every other public body, it’s open to criticism IMO and it’s failing staff and patients badly.

[@Jim-fw4rx]

So if a witness can change their opinions later on, surely all prosecutions can be appealed if a witness changes their minds.

[@LB13579]

Hope she’s out soon, she’s just been stitched up poor girl

[@Bob-iv9hr]

TalkTV - by simultaneously displaying pictures of Lucy Letby with a drink in her hand you are intentionally trying to undermine her credibility. She IS innocent

[@starwood213]

Yes a stream of photos showing her partying, pulling faces just like any young woman. I think these photos were deliberately chosen.

[@nigel8499]

That young Lady has never harmed a child. She should be released immediately and at the very latest before Christmas Eve. 2024 ✝️

[@Dontstandinthepark]

Except for the seven she murdered and the ones they’re still investigating

[@welshgirl6934]

​@@DontstandintheparkWHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?

[@Dontstandinthepark]

@@welshgirl6934 there was 10 months of it in the two trials, that’s why she was found guilty both times. If you’re saying no one can be tried for murder unless they’re caught in the act, there’ll be a lot of murderers walking the streets

[@tonydee9850]

This is a mission for all of us to change the way english justice system can stitch anyone up,imagine this happening to your child.

[@nickdandel5314]

To the person who said she did it because of personality disorder and tactics. You may want to look up the terms evidence and proof in the dictionary. Imagine juries to be made up by people like you? Every case is different but judged based on the evidence and not feelings or what the public opinion thinks.

[@BevVale-q3x]

Ive said all along Lucy is innocent. ❤

[@frankedwardcurry]

Me Too !

[@starwood213]

I have always had concerns but the more we hear the more unsound the convictions seem.

[@nigelground283]

I've just been looking at the Talk TV comments from a year ago , you all wanted her lynched.

[@Revo88888]

I've listened to a lot of transcripts. I urge everyone to do this and the conclusion you come to will be overwhelming.

[@donny121able]

The transcripts from the court case? This is why she was convicted. The point is, that the case put forward was a load of bull, contrived by poor medical experts and witnesses who changed their statements, probably pressured by the police to make the crime fit. They only care about convicting and not innocence.

[@RobRyan-c3v]

You've read them, you mean?

[@Revo88888]

@RobRyan-c3v listened. Many have been streamed

[@donny121able]

@Revo88888 The point that is being made, is the evidence was false so what was said in the transcripts is void. Hence why a re-trial is needed. Even the witnesses changed their statements to fit the timelines which I will put down to police pressure tactics.