Could Helldivers Survive Dead Space?

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Sci-Fi Kai

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@marvinnovilla4918
@marvinnovilla4918 4 ай бұрын
Lets be real Helldivers will die more to friendly fire than to actual Necromorphs.
@BD-Helldroid
@BD-Helldroid 4 ай бұрын
@@marvinnovilla4918 you know... you aren't wrong
@hes1shot671
@hes1shot671 4 ай бұрын
Yea accurate
@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert
@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert 4 ай бұрын
@@marvinnovilla4918 I've played helldivers for a very long time. You are so on point it scares me. I've seen mother fuckers literally dive into HMG fire and die, friendly fire is gonna cause more deaths than the necromorphs. Lol
@shoulderpyro
@shoulderpyro 4 ай бұрын
Which in turn leaves more biomass for the Necromorphs to reclaim and reanimate
@themadsuika3909
@themadsuika3909 4 ай бұрын
So normal DS2 Multiplayer then
@Shadow-sword
@Shadow-sword 4 ай бұрын
Heldiver giving a sigh of relief learning there is only one building sized enemy in the entire ship, and like four vehicle sized ones
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
That’s an easy day for the Divers lmao
@maxwellvindman7212
@maxwellvindman7212 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I mean, a helldiver is a trained, elite soldier equipped with good weapons (especially the dominator for de-limbing). As long as they know what they are fighting it would work out for them probably.
@wanderingrock6756
@wanderingrock6756 4 ай бұрын
​@@maxwellvindman7212 I wouldn't not say they are trained. The training we see in the tutorial for Helldiver's 2 is point and shoot and how to throw a grenade/stratagem then they are shipped off to war
@zenoohshit5498
@zenoohshit5498 4 ай бұрын
@@maxwellvindman7212 72 hours of training doesn’t qualify as ‘Elite’ 🤣
@Shadow-sword
@Shadow-sword 4 ай бұрын
@@wanderingrock6756 given the culture, you know they have trained their entire lives personally, just a final test to make sure they are qualified that
@kingcrab7837
@kingcrab7837 4 ай бұрын
The hilarious imagery of instead of a final battle its just everyone spamming their strategems in onespot
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Would highkey basically just be a Bile Titan that doesn’t chase you 😭
@BD-Helldroid
@BD-Helldroid 4 ай бұрын
4 380's and 120's fall upon the hive mind all at once XD
@mitzuriki
@mitzuriki 4 ай бұрын
@@BD-Helldroid oh sweet liberty,THE POWER OF FREEDOM RAINS UPON IT!
@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert
@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert 4 ай бұрын
@@BD-Helldroid "Hell bomb armed, clear the area!"
@JackalformerlyKnownasDjjjav
@JackalformerlyKnownasDjjjav 4 ай бұрын
⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
@robjsmiles
@robjsmiles 4 ай бұрын
"The marker can drive people mad, attack their friends or even finish themselves off" Yeah I don't think Helldivers need the marker to help them with that lol
@daswordofgork9823
@daswordofgork9823 3 ай бұрын
For Managed Democracy!
@phoenixpoole7667
@phoenixpoole7667 3 ай бұрын
Helldivers could accidentally bomb their own teammate and go, “oopsies” like it’s another Tuesday.
@Kieva_Storm
@Kieva_Storm 6 күн бұрын
But it will definitely make it worse.
@DH_WhaleShark
@DH_WhaleShark 4 ай бұрын
Imagine the look on a necromorph’s face when a Diver with the “Democracy protects” buff survives 36 death blows in a row because he keeps winning the 50/50
@vipertoxic8593
@vipertoxic8593 4 ай бұрын
Lol
@kingfordvr5863
@kingfordvr5863 4 ай бұрын
The gambling armor
@Mark-in8ju
@Mark-in8ju 4 ай бұрын
The best armor for a chromium ferring/compounder from Scadrial.
@gabusdeux
@gabusdeux 3 ай бұрын
Helldiver looks like fuckin swiss cheese, missing his entire head, and still pinning you between the eyes with an impact grenade before stimming themselves and regrowing to perfect condition
@LittleKnight713
@LittleKnight713 3 ай бұрын
i swear that one perk keeps me alive more than anything else
@TurtlePanda-op5gq
@TurtlePanda-op5gq 4 ай бұрын
The divers would t go mad, their sense of liberty and freedom would keep them sane
@inm3351
@inm3351 4 ай бұрын
they are already mad with all the democracy on their mind
@deusfeels4586
@deusfeels4586 4 ай бұрын
The marker could manipulate the divers, making them hear orders from their commanders to do different things, etc. In Dead Space 1 Isaac is already under the effects of the marker in many places, so it really does depend.
@nitrolight1778
@nitrolight1778 4 ай бұрын
As one guy said from his time in the Helldivers education program: "I only know 3 things: - Super Earth Good -Not Super Earth Bad -Third thing"
@Staladus
@Staladus 4 ай бұрын
​@@deusfeels4586 The problem with that is that they never get orders over radio. Everything is just pointed out on their map and the rest is up to them.
@deusfeels4586
@deusfeels4586 4 ай бұрын
@@Staladus When you approach some side objectives the commander will tell you that there's an asset in the vicinity of your position. So it's not completely uncommon to receive words from the commander. On top of that, since the Helldivers are so patriotic, going against the words of the commander would be like treason to them, so they would ABSOLUTELY follow the words of their commanders.
@saklo793
@saklo793 4 ай бұрын
To be honest, I think that they would just blow up the ship and then just land on the planet to finish off the hive mind.
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Probably unless they were also trying to save survivors that may still be alive as well
@MattieTedesco
@MattieTedesco 4 ай бұрын
​@EightUltra What survivors? The government told us the ship was empty when we fired forty seven orbital lasers at it
@uakonz7940
@uakonz7940 4 ай бұрын
Scerio 1: after blowing up the ship they eventually find the marker floating in the space, then bring it back to base for studdy🕵️‍♂️ Scerio 2: them landing on the planet would be worst then the first scerio. Mainly because now you have to deal with scerio 1 and 2 at the same time.
@alanmartinez2122
@alanmartinez2122 4 ай бұрын
@@uakonz7940 scenario 1 is quite unlikely since super earth actively discourages interest or curiosity for anything alien, hell they'd probably study what can blow it up gooder
@uakonz7940
@uakonz7940 4 ай бұрын
@@alanmartinez2122 Once they realize it's indestructible with a unlimited power source human greed will kick in, I doubt they'll just leave something like that for other alien creatures to get knowing there's other alien life that will surely take advantage of it eventually.
@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert
@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert 4 ай бұрын
Helldivers can literally chill on literal acid planets. They probably aren't breathing in acid, they probably have something to survive not having oxygen
@shoulderpyro
@shoulderpyro 4 ай бұрын
And without their destroyer they are borderline worthless as soldiers. Necros would make short work of em
@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert
@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert 4 ай бұрын
@@shoulderpyro They still have guns though, and said guns are wayyy better than what the soldiers had. Even the liberator can shred car sized bugs, I'm pretty sure their guns are superior to what the soldier had. And as of the new warbond, Helldivers have access to flame throwers in primary and secondary form. And even without a super destroyer, helldivers won't need airstrikes when it comes to the enemies on the ship. Horde clear? Helldivers already have a solution for it, and support weapons? We both know a hellpod ain't gonna go on that ship, I'm gonna guess they probably have pelican-1 drop them off into the ship, and what can fit inside pelican-1? Support weapons. Helldivers can bring literal heavy machine guns which would shred anything against them.
@shoulderpyro
@shoulderpyro 4 ай бұрын
@@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert And what do you think they'll be able to do against Wheezer gas? Or heavier Necromorphs? the moons arent stupid. They will actively change and adapt the necromorphs to suit their current need. If regular slashers wont cut it, they'll switch to something that does work. And sooner or later, no matter how strong those guns are.. they will run out of ammo. And with no way to call in additional ammunition, its over for them real quick. And a final lil note; You cant kill whats already dead. Necromorphs cannot be killed - only temporarily disabled. Sure you can tear their limbs off but in time, the biomass will reclaim them and reform them into something more horrific. You cant win against them. Not unless you crack the planet in half and even thats not a guaranteed victory
@EagleEyedWarrior
@EagleEyedWarrior 4 ай бұрын
@@ProfessionalPFChangsExpertif we’re talking brethren moons without there ship’s there literally no chance they will harm a god-like being Also you would need to prove there’s no air on said planet to the person who wrote the main comment
@NorthernNorthdude91749
@NorthernNorthdude91749 4 ай бұрын
@@shoulderpyro Uh...Helldivers are super elite. They'd mow through necromorphs. Just four Helldivers can match hundreds upon hundreds of bugs and bots.
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster 4 ай бұрын
Okay, but a space zombie faction would go hard in Helldivers 2
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
I’m sure we’ll get something like that at some point it’s to easy of a W to leave on the table
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster 4 ай бұрын
@@Sci-FiKai biggest challenge is just making them not too similar to the terminids. There could be a fun gimmick where killed helldivers turn into zombies themselves. Then, when calling reinforcements, zombies will rise out of the ground, same as bugs, but in a much larger area that can lead to some spawning close to or even behind helldivers. I wonder how they’d get medium and heavily armored enemies, tho…
@theworstcatholic7247
@theworstcatholic7247 4 ай бұрын
@@GGBlaster That's easy, just have them mutate more bone/denser bone and muscle. Have the big boys be amalgamation's of multiple bodies.
@briefsize11
@briefsize11 4 ай бұрын
@@GGBlasterI’ve thought of making a special mission only you can do if you want. I imagine a unresponsive super destroyer full of zombies but to make it scarier you can’t use stratagems or respawns and no teammates
@FinnMcGregor-t8e
@FinnMcGregor-t8e 4 ай бұрын
And have them kind of be like the flood, with some having firearms, but horrible aim
@duwanglover3424
@duwanglover3424 4 ай бұрын
I'd agree that oxygen tanks and magnetic shoes aren't standard issue Helldiver equipment, but I can easily imagine Super Earth authorizing such equipment for this major order
@NCR_vet_ranger2347
@NCR_vet_ranger2347 4 ай бұрын
Helldiver 2 x deadspace collab would go hard
@karal_the_crazy
@karal_the_crazy 4 ай бұрын
Helldivers suits have to be pressurized because examination of a hell pod shows that they are not air tight
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Yo that’s interesting, where did you see that? Is it outside the pods on the destroyer?
@karal_the_crazy
@karal_the_crazy 4 ай бұрын
@@Sci-FiKai you can see pods in several locations around the destroyer but I was actually looking at the ones on the ground because they don’t have a seal or any way of keeping the air from leaking out Combine that with how the lids are attached in the destroyer and I am relatively sure they are not pressurized
@Spore_Spawn
@Spore_Spawn 4 ай бұрын
The pods would have to be pressurized or super heated air/plasma would get in during atmospheric entry and cook the helldiver alive.
@karal_the_crazy
@karal_the_crazy 4 ай бұрын
@@Spore_Spawn that may be a logic flaw on the devs side because it doesn’t look like they are sealed but it could be a similar case to the bridge which should definitely be depressurized by firing the hellpods
@michaellin4553
@michaellin4553 4 ай бұрын
​@@Spore_Spawn I imagine it's sort of heat-activated, expendable fast-acting sealant
@infinitekarma4949
@infinitekarma4949 4 ай бұрын
I think Helldivers are a lot scarier than they seem because of the satire nature of HD2. While they are still grunts, they are maniacs souped up on hardcore patriotism. What’s worse than a psychopath? A psychopath with a concrete goal and the means to do so.
@yeedog6145
@yeedog6145 4 ай бұрын
I can just imagine a helldiver screaming “MY LIFE FOR SUPER EARTH” as he throws a stratagem at his own squad. Mistaking them for necros due to the Marker’s influence.
@michaellin4553
@michaellin4553 4 ай бұрын
A Helldiver? No. The Helldivers? Obviously. The answer is to just throw more numbers at the problem.
@silentphotographer117
@silentphotographer117 4 ай бұрын
That's the worst possible idea for dealing with a enemy like the necors lol You're essentially depleting your own resources to bolster theirs at that point and are fighting backwards lol. Super earth's strategy of using smaller teams would actually benefit them it's the fact that they don't actually have the means to complete the job is the issue. They can't fight the marker itself. But that very rock can make them fight themselves let alone make their destroyers useless.
@TrixyTrixter
@TrixyTrixter 3 ай бұрын
​@@silentphotographer117 Not really as long as each diver kills 2 necros at minimum its going forwards. Your analogy only works if you assume not a single necro is removed from combat.
@bluscout1857
@bluscout1857 Ай бұрын
Hey tbh you never know though a single helldiver could pull a Isaac Clark main character type thing and survive the carnage
@yeedog6145
@yeedog6145 4 ай бұрын
Knowing Super Earth, they’d try to use The Marker as a source of power like EarthGov. And it’d certainly wouldn’t go half as well as the other three times they messed with things they shouldn’t have.
@matijasostojic4288
@matijasostojic4288 4 ай бұрын
Yea in a Dead Space lore accurate scenario the Marker would just slowly infected the entire empire before it starts a mass convergence event.
@kenethernandez6246
@kenethernandez6246 4 ай бұрын
This is actually an interesting question. Due to helldivers being a parody, most people don't take them too seriously, but they are actually not stupid. Typically, helldivers are deployed with specific mission objectives to complete along with the tools to complete them. They don't just land and wonder around. In this case, I think they would be sent to conduct one of their typical search and destroy missions on the ship, call in a hellbomb, and say goodbye to their problems there lmao. They wouldn't care about potential survivors on the ship since helldivers aren't exactly good guys, and the ministry of truth would just say they are liberating the galaxy of another threat. Then they would move on to the planet, and with their full kit at their disposal, it would be pretty smooth sailing.
@shoulderpyro
@shoulderpyro 4 ай бұрын
This is an interesting theory with one (potential) flaw: This assume the hellpods can bore through ship hulls with enough force to breach the outer hull, but not enough to tear through the entire ship. While they can definitely smash through weak-ish steel as shown by them blasting right through prefab buildings, the armour of a strider is enough to stop them. I'd reckon the outer hull of a ship is more reinforced than that of a land-based walking tank, so there'd be no getting a hellbomb inside. Okay, so maybe on the hull then? As far as we know, divers have no magboots and its unsure whether or not they have their own oxygen supply within their suit. All planets show the corpses of SEAF personnel, none of them are wearing pressure suits so its safe to assume all planets in HD2 have some sort of atmosphere with breathable oxygen. Especially the bug ones. But lets say, they actually use their brains for once and realise they cant drop-bomb the ship. So they take the Pelican to the hangar and offload it there. Activate it, and fly out. The ship now has a massive gaping hole in it, and shrapnel is sent in all directions - likely also tearing through Pelican-1 as it makes its escape, and into the destroyer as well. The Destroyers are NOT shielded, so shrapnel flung with the speed of a railcannon will likely pierce right through the glass on the bridge. Assuming both Pelican and Destroyer survive the ship blast, its not guaranteed the threat on the ship is gone. So they might blast it from orbit with their cannons. To then proceed to land on the planet proper, after which they'd likely get torn to shreds real fast. Necromorphs are not to be underestimated. You cant kill them. You can only dismember them to temporarily hamper their progress before the biomass reconstitutes their forms, or merges them into bigger threats. And like Tyranids, Necromorphs can and will adapt to the situation. Once the proto-hivemind realises regular slashers might not cut it, it will start producing forms specifically meant to tear through the armour. And even IF they can safely dispose of all the direct threats, they still arent safe from the Wheezers. Their infection spreads through the air, and is known in Dead Space to pass right through airfilters - making the helmets practically worthless. It may seem like the divers have this in the bag, but in the end itll be an overwhelming victory for the Brethren Moons
@NorthernNorthdude91749
@NorthernNorthdude91749 4 ай бұрын
Helldivers do in fact care about civilians though.
@kenethernandez6246
@kenethernandez6246 4 ай бұрын
@NorthernNorthdude91749 They do what superearth tells them cuz they are brainwashed. Ask yourself if the ministry of truth would care about someone that's not one of their own when they barely care about their own people lmao.
@ThatRedNumber
@ThatRedNumber 4 ай бұрын
Even if they're not good guys,Helldivers still value civilian life over their own and will do anything to ensure that at least the civilians live. They all get deployed with the knowledge of "If I die,someone will take my place and finish the mission". Remember,the player base IS the Helldivers,and the Helldivers chose to save children instead of securing anti tank mines
@shoulderpyro
@shoulderpyro 4 ай бұрын
@@ThatRedNumber #1 priority in case of a Necromorph outbreak is to annihilate everything, planet included. Nobody is safe from the Marker's infection so there will be no civilians to rescue. Destroy everything. Thats the only way to be sure a new moon wont arise
@omnicrete7470
@omnicrete7470 4 ай бұрын
Electricity can kill necromorphs in game so a handful of helldivers with blitz shotguns would be able to make it decently far, until the part of the game where the ship gets bombarded by asteroids and I doubt helldivers are tech savvy enough to find out how to fix the ADS system
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster 4 ай бұрын
I imagine they’d be frantically looking for a Super Earth terminal with all its user-friendly inputs 😂
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Fr like do they even know how to work on their own destroyers? Nevertheless a completely different ship 🗿
@deadman9335
@deadman9335 4 ай бұрын
I don't know what weapons you speak of as I've not played hell divers but Electricity is a way to put them down temporarily in large amounts. A Javelin gun is capable of putting out 150,000,000 volt tendrils in all directions, about 10 total, all at base. A necromorph can survive this for a few seconds especially the enhanced versions.
@omnicrete7470
@omnicrete7470 4 ай бұрын
@@deadman9335 the weapon I speaked of is a infinite ammo Tesla gun capable of killing chargers which are basically brutes if they were a bug, the electric arc is strong enough to rip apart metal and hardened carapace a direct hit should completely fry a necromorph especially if the fellow divers focus fire
@deadman9335
@deadman9335 4 ай бұрын
@@omnicrete7470 Do you known the max range by chance, that can help figure out the bare minimum amount of volts, does it also have tendrils or 1 solid beam can also be used to help. Necromorphs can withstand the impact of the Javelin and the shock
@tylero1689
@tylero1689 4 ай бұрын
Final boss really bouta get a face full of: ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
@MrKillka117
@MrKillka117 4 ай бұрын
Helldivers1 Shredder missle lol
@dylanisntvibing
@dylanisntvibing 4 ай бұрын
@@MrKillka117That one's much better. Wish we could see it again
@VEXALL44
@VEXALL44 4 ай бұрын
⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ brother ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️🫡
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 4 ай бұрын
It ain’t gonna be enough to kill it tho 😅 They about to get crushed sorry to say lol Dead Space is underestimated.
@MrKillka117
@MrKillka117 4 ай бұрын
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Meridia black hole in my pocket:
@Ccerran
@Ccerran 4 ай бұрын
You kinda get caught up in the Helldivers being a parody, with their training lasting all of five minutes, right up until a squad of four comes back with over a thousand kills in under an hour
@MeiMei-kw2ic
@MeiMei-kw2ic Ай бұрын
It’s not five minutes they already have regular seaf training and is stated in the tutorial that they finally becoming hell divers which implies there’s more to it we don’t we don’t see other wise the game would be boring
@CandleWisp
@CandleWisp 4 ай бұрын
One thing should be noted, that the Helldivers have strong ideological cohesion. This hardens their society against indoctrination. Because well, they're kinda already indoctrinated😅 Imo, the unitologist ideology is the #1 threat hampering the effective response against the necromorph threat. It's far more insidious than the transformation process and even direct marker influence. We see that the Dead Space universe _does_ have the tech readily available to deal with the necromorphs. But as we see with Ishimura, that only works if humans actually want to beat the necromorphs instead of joining them. In the Ishimura incident, the captain himself had an agenda to keep the marker aboard. Half the crew were unitologists worshiping the marker. As a result, response efforts were severely hampered by inside sabotage, until the infection completely overtook the ship.
@Rainbowhawk1993
@Rainbowhawk1993 4 ай бұрын
Helldivers are built for the open battlefield. In close quarters without strategems and scarce supplies, they’re sitting ducks.
@RvnWolf
@RvnWolf 3 ай бұрын
In an open battlefield they are cooking themselves first before any Necromorph, courtesy of the Marker.
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech 4 ай бұрын
Many of the helldivers enemies including the new alpha commander are best killed by removing the legs. They know to shoot limbs lol. If you don’t have anti tank stripping a hulks legs or arms are a great tactic too. Cutting off berserker limbs with enough fire power is one of the best ways too.
@sampy901
@sampy901 4 ай бұрын
Most necromorphs wouldn't stand a chance against a prepared army, but it's the influence of the marker that really would kill off the helldivers. They would hallucinate their teammates as being necromorphs and thematically friendly fire gun them down while screaming "for liberty!!!"
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
Also there’s the danger of how even the basic slasher can cleave them in half
@CandleWisp
@CandleWisp 4 ай бұрын
​@@IntrusiveThoughts838 They fight giant bugs on the regular, that's nothing new. The necros are strong, but not unstopable if you know how to deal with them. The Ishimura only fell because the captain along with half the crew worshipped the very thing that was killing them and let the infection get out of control. We see in the Downfall movie, that when the security team adapted to the necromorphs they took them down much easier. But by that point, the infection was out of control.
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
@@CandleWisp giant bugs are different compared to eldritch undead my guy. That’s a bad comparison. Additionally people really forget that the dismemberment didn’t kill them permenantly, and how the movie honestly does nerf them a bit but also shows how horrifying the Necromorphs are. Should I mention dead space 3 during their outbreak or the Aegis 7 outbreak before it reached the ishumura? The thing was that those that worshipped the marker didn’t know of the Necromorphs until Mercer started getting fanatics up and running. To downplay the necros is to severely underestimate just how bs they actually are and how outclassed the helldivers are.
@sampy901
@sampy901 4 ай бұрын
@@CandleWisp In downfall one member of the security team starts hallucinating and slices another team member down the middle with a plasma chainsaw because they saw her as a necromorph...
@siamzero9480
@siamzero9480 3 ай бұрын
@@IntrusiveThoughts838 No they aren't. Giant bugs are several times stronger than weak transformed human bodies
@matijasostojic4288
@matijasostojic4288 4 ай бұрын
The funny thing about helldivers is that they literally don't have any plot armour so every dead diver would just be more biomass to be reanimated and consumed.
@munumyname4047
@munumyname4047 25 күн бұрын
until 500 kg bomb come in
@tbk7114
@tbk7114 4 ай бұрын
New fourth faction discovered and now I’ll wait for the Halloween update.
@davidhytha9828
@davidhytha9828 4 ай бұрын
I feel like signal gets them before markers puppets will as well. One convincing hallucination for one Helldiver in tight corridor and its done.
@infinitekarma4949
@infinitekarma4949 4 ай бұрын
Let’s be honest here, give these Helldivers a support weapon and some stratagems and they’re causing more havoc to the entire planet and its inhabitants than they typically do to themselves
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 4 ай бұрын
You know, it occurs to me that if Helldivers vs Necromorphs was an actual game, the transition from the on ship gameplay to on planet (where strategems come into play) would have been praised as this amazing feeling of empowerment.
@Blaze57420
@Blaze57420 4 ай бұрын
Helldivers have fought on moons and our loyalty to super earth is absolute. So fighting in places with no air is not a problem and we'll never get corrupted.
@CreatorsToast
@CreatorsToast 4 ай бұрын
There are planets in helldivers 2 where, no matter if day or night, the sky is black and you can see the stars meaning those planets don't have an atmosphere, and no atmosphere means no oxygen, being able to fight there means they have a way to get oxygen/breathe. And to those that say: "but they die to gas strikes." I have to say: "Then why does it hurt the Automaton?" Easy, because it's a corrosive gas, it just burns their suits, they don't breathe it in.
@DatsRandom
@DatsRandom 3 ай бұрын
They can drown
@Gdsryrox
@Gdsryrox 4 ай бұрын
Hell divers often already go for limbs and weak spots, taking out legs and arms of enemies are often the best way to go if you don’t have a support weapon capable of doing so..
@JT_The_Banana
@JT_The_Banana 4 ай бұрын
If the hell divers were sent by super Earth to investigate the ship after it went offline , then yeah , they'd naturally be given space suits incase the life support systems are down
@Eyes_Of_Heaven09
@Eyes_Of_Heaven09 4 ай бұрын
The divers won’t go crazy and kill others. They were exposed frequently to horror that mentally reinforces the divers. (I know this from the tips before going into a mission. Great vid!) (Edit: My bad, didn’t know marker was a mind-controlling enemy. Never played dead space, I thought it was just regular trauma. So yeah, they’re fucked .)
@revoko1
@revoko1 4 ай бұрын
Dealing with mental horrors has nothing to do with their mental resistance in the Deadspace universe. Issac dealt with way my horrors then anybody and the marker still effected his mind. His resistance is pretty much plot armor in the game, but what he went through did not give him and edge as a matter a fact the trauma weakens his defenses and allowed the mark to control him for a short while. So Helldivers get no resistance due to trauma.
@jamesThebulbmin
@jamesThebulbmin 4 ай бұрын
​@@revoko1the drivers are already very brainwashed and will likely have some resistance
@blakefenslerjr4858
@blakefenslerjr4858 4 ай бұрын
​@@jamesThebulbminno one has mental resistance against the marker everyone eventually goes insane
@jamesThebulbmin
@jamesThebulbmin 4 ай бұрын
@@blakefenslerjr4858 yes but they will resist it not forever
@grittytheg5077
@grittytheg5077 4 ай бұрын
​@@jamesThebulbminbasically as long as it's sapient the markers will affect them even isaac would lose control sometimes
@fireironthesecond2909
@fireironthesecond2909 3 ай бұрын
The Marker: “Kill them kill them now for your master!” Helldiver: “M-my… my… my onl-only master IS DEMOCRACY!!!”
@uakonz7940
@uakonz7940 4 ай бұрын
I never played helldivers but i played a lot of dead space,i think the marker will be there ultimate downfall because even if you have resistance you still will have to overcome past trauma, fears, guilt, anything the marker can use against you emotionally and in one of the logs in dead space 2 earth gov got there scientist to craft a pill that gives them "resistance" to the marker and out of there whole team only one scientist suddenly became aware of what he was doing in realized the the pills dont actually work in the marker was making him do things subconsciously and before he could warn the crew it was too late. you find the log in the last chapter. There's only 0.1% chance you get resistance to the marker in i don't think all 4 marines will have it and all it takes is one marine to suddenly disappear making another marine spilt up to look for them which would probably happen since they can destroy necromorhs fairly easy they know there weakness so they would be confident. the marker is always gonna be that insidious killer. that log definitely gave me some good idea how the marker works/what its capable of. The marker is insanely op it effects all bio organinc life
@BD-Helldroid
@BD-Helldroid 4 ай бұрын
@uakonz7940 then easy, the helldivers wouldn't go within range, and would probably wait for both the Ishimura and the marker back to aegis 7 at which point they'd begin their orbital barrages to just decimate the area.
@thefox5301
@thefox5301 4 ай бұрын
Honestly if super earth high command saw the ship as a threat they'd probably just nuke the whole thing like they did to meridia
@Lazarultos
@Lazarultos 4 ай бұрын
@@thefox5301 Yeah, the Helldiver fireteam wouldn't make it, but the moment they send confirmation of an alien threat on the ship? All of the Destroyer guns would be unloading on it faster than you can say "DEMOCRACY"
@Automaton237
@Automaton237 4 ай бұрын
​@@BD-Helldroidthey wouldn't know about the effects of the marker they would go insane just from the marker and shoot themselves or kill each other with Friendly Firer.
@BD-Helldroid
@BD-Helldroid 4 ай бұрын
@@Automaton237 not the effects of the marker, but if they knew the ship was infested, wouldnt matter, the ship and planet would be cracked further
@fenrirsrage4609
@fenrirsrage4609 4 ай бұрын
Honestly either way its absolutely going to be an absolute bloodbath. Like at least Evil Dead levels of slapstick, blood, gore and viscera is going to happen with the Helldivers against the Markers/Necromorphs.
@halothere6995
@halothere6995 4 ай бұрын
Me and my boys would get our asses kicked in this mission .
@CHILL_Z0N3
@CHILL_Z0N3 4 ай бұрын
Now do: "Can The Rookie (H3:ODST) survive the events of Raccoon City?"
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
THATS A GREAT IDEA
@CHILL_Z0N3
@CHILL_Z0N3 4 ай бұрын
@@Sci-FiKai Thanks, I figured that the scenarios will be quite interesting ofc
@CHILL_Z0N3
@CHILL_Z0N3 4 ай бұрын
@@Sci-FiKai I can give you a scenario/story for this idea for how that goes down.
@daviper1568
@daviper1568 4 ай бұрын
If the Helldivers are skilled veterans they would definitely figure out to take out the limbs first after there first encounter since they fought the bugs and of course if they saw the message. As for stratagems they wouldn’t be able to use them until they’re at the plants surface and that’s if they have the ship. As for going mad yeah at least one of them are gonna be a bit cuckoo. And as for survival I believe at least 2 or 1 are gonna survive this situation. Oh and for the sake of argument let’s say they were given armored space suits.
@Arcadinator6
@Arcadinator6 4 ай бұрын
I’d say the divers do have life support in their suits due to the moon environment you can fight on. Pretty sure it’s got no atmosphere and the divers do just fine.
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Is that from HD1??
@idkwtfimdoing9900
@idkwtfimdoing9900 4 ай бұрын
It from HD2 and if I remember correctly I think it call the planet Fenrir 3 and there’s other planets similar to fenrir
@shoulderpyro
@shoulderpyro 4 ай бұрын
This has one gaping hole in it though; You can find SEAF and civilian corpses, none of which are wearing pressure suits, and none of which died from lack of oxygen. Nevermind the oxygen required to get bugs the size that they are - Terminid planets are likely extremely rich in oxygen
@NorthernNorthdude91749
@NorthernNorthdude91749 4 ай бұрын
@@shoulderpyro You're applying Earth insect logic to alien bugs. The Terminids likely don't require oxygen rich environments.
@shoulderpyro
@shoulderpyro 4 ай бұрын
@@NorthernNorthdude91749 they wanted realism right? Then they get realism bugs.
@kingdutchorama4999
@kingdutchorama4999 4 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw the title, I just went "No."
@IMxDEFECTIVE
@IMxDEFECTIVE 4 ай бұрын
Title : can Helldivers survive in Dead Space universe "Shit we can't even survive in our own universe"
@LouiseBelcher69
@LouiseBelcher69 4 ай бұрын
In the lore, helldivers are 7-foot-tall clone paratroopers with experimental equipment and armor-piercing rounds ranging from medium to light. Their armor ranges from light (standard grunt) to heavy (Spartan armor). Also, helldivers have built-in oxygen tanks in their suit (they can’t swim) and know the basics of melee combat as a last resort (swords). Realistically, helldivers have a 59% chance of survival
@The100thonly
@The100thonly 4 ай бұрын
Nope, regular people, in their teens.
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 4 ай бұрын
That’s good and all but they would be turned against each other by the marker, they would get blitzed by twitchers who can dodge their weapons then cut apart, and the massive bosses would splatter them.
@LouiseBelcher69
@LouiseBelcher69 4 ай бұрын
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls If Helldiver has operated in a 40k since then, they would be Storm Tropper to mid-space marines, but it depends on how dense the propaganda is; at that point, it is a dice roll if they get corrupted or not by the markers
@LouiseBelcher69
@LouiseBelcher69 4 ай бұрын
@@The100thonly I know this is an In-game thing, but I think they are clones because different voice actors play the helldivers each time you die. I know that Arrowhead can’t hire everyone to fill the role of the Helldivers; however, in the tutorial, Sergeant Brash said he was “7 feet tall.”Taking that literally or not, the same physical body structure is displayed once you leave the cryo pod at the beginning of the game, so overall, this is my headcanon. I believe that the helldivers are at least 7 feet tall
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 4 ай бұрын
@@LouiseBelcher69 No you’re not getting it, the propaganda is not protecting them from being manipulated mentally at all, the Markers and Moons would use it against them to make them hallucinate orders from Super Earth to lead them into a trap or to manipulate them into helping the Marker unknowingly or telling them their teammates are traitors according to the ministry of truth and since they blindly follow orders they will be easy to manipulate this way. The Moons if they get the chance will even manipulate the leadership of Super Earth directly once they are made known of them, they will manipulate them into making Markers and do what the moons want while the soldiers just blindly follow orders till the markers activate then they will farm humanity to make more moons, the Brethren Moons are super intelligent beings that play the long game.
@grittytheg5077
@grittytheg5077 4 ай бұрын
Imagine the look on the helldivers faces when they fight a twitcher and can't land a shot on it because they don't have stasis
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Maybe they can compensate with Shotguns or Flamethrowers to cover a wide area to land hits
@grittytheg5077
@grittytheg5077 4 ай бұрын
@@Sci-FiKai would flames even come out fast enough to touch a twitcher more realistically speaking
@uakonz7940
@uakonz7940 4 ай бұрын
@@grittytheg5077 The flamethrower wont be able to keep up but the shotgun should do the trick on knocking it down, if they have really good reaction speed
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 4 ай бұрын
@@uakonz7940They would be too slow as Isaac and Twitchers can react to Railgun spikes and plasma which is much faster than bullets, they would blitz and cut apart the Helldivers, check out the death animations of the Twitchers.
@HownBrash
@HownBrash 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video! But helldivers don't have "experience" or "training." It's more likely if a fireteam of Helldivers landed on the Ishimura it'd be their first mission ever. Also, Helldivers are actually pretty freakin' stupid, the Marker would easily fool them ASAP. If we ignore this part though, they'll still be pretty fine... also about the oxygen stuff- there's a planet in Helldivers 2 that is literally just a moon with no atmosphere; they have some form of recycler in their suits for Oxygen most likely.
@HownBrash
@HownBrash 4 ай бұрын
Also the destroyer would probably just take the safer route and blast the Ishimura with 500kg bombs lol
@dragonwalkerdew
@dragonwalkerdew 4 ай бұрын
To put out my own two cents here, by referencing the atmosphere of a few planets in HD2: There is a planet type where it's just a literal moon with accompanying meteor showers and lunar landscape, so I'd think that they have some sort of O2 pack put into their suits just for those situations. Plus, with the whole thing about Merida before it went singulo, that planet WAS putting out a butt-load of spores, so much it likely wasn't healthy just to breathe it in, so the O2 pack likely activated too there. However, due to the 40-minute time frame for each mission, that's likely also a little under the time of how long their O2 packs last in typical combat scenarios. After all, can't have traitors if they can't breathe.
@alexandre7060
@alexandre7060 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget that the necromorph are universal threat and Isaac literally the doom guy of this universe.
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 4 ай бұрын
Personally, I’d say that all helldivers could survive the vacuum of space and also have filtration systems in their helmets. Their helmets have vents on the bottom, which may signify they have the ability to filter oxygen or this is merely to help divers breathe easier in the helmet. However, I say they could have sealed helmets purely because they are troops that drop from low orbit. What would happen if there was a sudden loss of pressure in the hellpod drop sequence? Pilots wear oxygen masks incase cabin pressure is lost, so why wouldn’t helldivers have that too?
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Ohhhh this is a good point 👀 Yeah it seems like they SHOULD have filtration and oxygen systems within their suits sense it makes the most sense I just didn’t want to say they definitively did without knowing for sure especially since I didn’t play HD1. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some lore or statement idk about that confirms they do lol
@jamesThebulbmin
@jamesThebulbmin 4 ай бұрын
Hellpods likely aren't pressureised anyway
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 4 ай бұрын
@@jamesThebulbmin oh, so dropping from orbit doesn’t warrant a pressurized capsule? You do realize that at that altitude, you will die without supplemental oxygen sources right?
@Monkeylighthouse
@Monkeylighthouse 4 ай бұрын
​​@@djtrac3r935don't try to apply logic to this game, giant bugs can walk around on a moon with no atmosphere and decompose into oil, there are robots that have sentience and access to straight up star wars weapons. And the hellpod not being pressurized is what makes you question the logic?
@lancemckenzie1074
@lancemckenzie1074 3 ай бұрын
John Helldiver, John Helldiver Sr, John Helldiver Jr, John Helldiver Jr II
@GMBoyYT
@GMBoyYT 4 ай бұрын
They should upgrade their Weapons to sever the limbs off even faster.
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Yeah a lot of the heavier weapons especially stuff like the heavy machine gun is gonna shred them like tissue paper
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster 4 ай бұрын
I’ve been wishing for a limb slicer in Helldivers 2! Would make a lot of enemies less threatening
@ahha623
@ahha623 4 ай бұрын
@@GGBlaster try the scythe, that does a good job at removing limbs from more armoured foes.
@deadman9335
@deadman9335 4 ай бұрын
Again downplaying Dead Space, I'm not saying that it is intentional. The pulse rifle does shoot tiny rounds, 30 grain bullets, 3 at a time, at 63 a second, at mach 33.5, hitting with 128,536.8 joules of energy each, and that is all at base. It has similar performance to an A-10 Warthog only with way smaller bullets, higher velocity, and slightly lower fire rate. It is described as liquefying humans on contact, the bullets pancake on contact for 100% energy transfer, it has low caliber non armor piercing ammo because it would blow through starships if it didn't. Isaac's durability is also easily in the large building to town levels depending on the attack, out aide of armor he can take a comparable gun to a pulse rifle to the gut and was fine. Know that almost all of Isaac's weapons are hot, as in 6000 degrees Celsius or higher including his flamethrower so standard incendiary won't cut it.
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 4 ай бұрын
Oh someone who knows how to power scale and knows about the higher ends for Isaac did you find the blogs made by my friends and others? Do you know Jobber Gadot? Or me Carnifex? Tho the only thing u have issue finding is the statement for the pulse rifle being hypersonic cuz the wiki says it yet I can’t find the source atm, so you have it or know where to find it?
@deadman9335
@deadman9335 4 ай бұрын
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Don't know these people or blogs, and the hypersonic statement was in the weapon descriptions of the pulse rifles.
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 4 ай бұрын
@@deadman9335 Then where did you get your calcs? Did you make them yourself or did you get them made? We should chat on discord. Where tho? What guide? I need specific please.
@deadman9335
@deadman9335 4 ай бұрын
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls I make calculations myself when I have spare time to do so. Also, not sure, does the wiki not have the source listed anymore? If not, I found a thread once talking about how advanced the dead space universe actually is which gave me a lot of info I didn't know before hand, might be listed there. I would have to find that again though unless you find it.
@culturallycarpthian4000
@culturallycarpthian4000 4 ай бұрын
Hard no and I think they still would have trouble against the necromorphs, because even with their powerful weapons there is no stopping the necromorphs from sending a massive horde to their location or coordinatingly ambushing them through vents and such. As well the entirety of the Ishimura fell within minutes from a slasher and an infector with all the weapons at their disposal. Another thing even though the pulse rifle wasn't the greatest weapon, but it could stun lock or precisely "kill" a garden variety slasher and somehow the valor with personnel that has one of the best armor in the game, got crushed by a single slasher that was stuck in an escape pod with a window to see the person inside. On top of that the marker doesn't have to rely on trauma to manipulate the divers in which they could use their patriotism/nationalism against them to make them overconfident or guilt them by making them think that they failed super earth. Another thing is that necromorphs can still live without oxygen, most of their limbs and head so even if the divers take out the arms of a slasher, it could just leap towards them and start biting/eating the divers like in dead space downfall. I have many MANY things that I can list about all facets and advantages of the Necromorphs. But overall, the helldivers are outmatched, stratagems/other possible advantages or not.
@galerus3776
@galerus3776 4 ай бұрын
When a unstoppable force meets a immovable object.
@SaltedMallows
@SaltedMallows 3 ай бұрын
Alright, what about the fact that the deadspace setting doesn’t have any regular ammunition in the field that you’d expect for assail rifles because they use advanced plasma.
@ChrisHansen5.56x45
@ChrisHansen5.56x45 3 ай бұрын
Even without the marker you are still at risk of being executed by your fellow helldiver with almost no repercussions for them
@kbell9568
@kbell9568 4 ай бұрын
I think with the stratagem issue, there are certain sections that Isaac had to go through that were on the outside of the Ishimura, so they could start with stratagems, then be able to use them again in certain outdoors areas, lose access to them on the inside, and finally use them again when they’re on Aegis VII Plus with them having problems being outside, the divers’ suits do seem to be somewhat sealed and pressurised, since they have no problem running about on any planet they drop in on, no matter the atmosphere, so they must have some way of surviving harsh or even non-existent atmospheres of those planets
@asmkalrizion7078
@asmkalrizion7078 4 ай бұрын
I would argue with a good handful of these points, namely thqt there's no need to give the divers more of their ammo considering they can use their own weapons until they run out, then they can just pick up whatever weapons/tools are sitting around, same as Isaac. They likely wouldn't take the same path as Isaac unless they had an engineer with them, in which case they'd probably see the same result as Isaac splitting up with his team. There is when you'd need to consider whether the diver engineer would be able to survive on his own and the other 3 divers being ablr to survive without him. Which Isaac's team had a high level secret earth gov hacker with them, the divers probably wouldn't as they'd likely be working more like the earth gov marines, focusing on destroying the ship rather than repairing it. I could go on but don't want to make this comment huge
@matijasostojic4288
@matijasostojic4288 4 ай бұрын
Do we mean the Ishimura or a full blown Helldivers like charge at a marker world? I feel like a squad of destroyers (4, each with 20 helldiver crew) could do it but if its a full blown convergence event then No. Not only would the world be filled with thousands of markers, bassically melting their brains, but their life expectancy and how necromorphs operate will leave them bassically just feeding the planet with 80 divers per mission while never truly killing any necros since they are just reanimated flesh.
@Mr.givens-du4zn
@Mr.givens-du4zn 4 ай бұрын
from what i know the helldivers would be given proper tools to deal with the situation like a pressurized suit with oxygen tanks and flamethrowers and be told to escort the survivors and capture a Necromorph for study. I am assuming the helldivers wouldn't destroy the ship because civilians are in there. Now i wanna see space marines meet helldivers on a infested planet and link up fr
@Gol3mMkVI
@Gol3mMkVI 4 ай бұрын
So just a correction: there suits allow them to breath since there fight on many moon like planets with micro gravity and of course the meteor storms.
@SanguiniusIsDad
@SanguiniusIsDad 4 ай бұрын
So you forget one part of their stratagems. “My life for super earth”.
@johannhawk8471
@johannhawk8471 3 ай бұрын
the mental image of helldivers having a lifespan of minutes negating the influence of the marker since they don't live long enough to be influenced sounds hilarious.
@DaraKelly-o5i
@DaraKelly-o5i 4 ай бұрын
Would like to see more helldiver videos The only one I can think of is “Can the Helldivers survive starship troopers or “a war against the tyranids from warhammer”
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Working on another Helldiver vid currently I think you’ll enjoy it 🌚
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
@@Sci-FiKaiha they wouldn’t man if you do your research.. it’ll be a slaughter
@Azrael178
@Azrael178 4 ай бұрын
Hilariously enough we actually know that super destroyers have spacesuits on board due to upgrade of the artillery system saying that the guns get upgraded to breach loading from the standard barrel loading and saving the crew the need to go on spacewalks to load the guns. So even if they aren't standard helldiver equipment we know that they have it and can give it to them if a need for space missions arises. Also there is a reson to suspect that helldivers helmets have at least filtration systems to some extent since even the open helmets have facemasks and they don't appear to be suffering any negative effects from inhaling terminid spores or smoke from granades. On the other hand one of the environmental hazard that makes us cough so it's clearly not perfect
@shoulderpyro
@shoulderpyro 4 ай бұрын
And lets not forget - Wheezer gas goes right through filters. Theres no escaping the Necromorph threat
@blademaster2390
@blademaster2390 4 ай бұрын
Honestly…everyone’s talking about the fact that the Helldivers’ suits must be pressurized, seeing as they often fight on planets with an atmosphere that doesnt have oxygen, but nobody’s talking about the real issues here. In a typical Helldiver deployment, the average life expectancy of an individual Helldiver is less than 10 minutes, and that’s with all their strategems. Put them in Dead Space, even with their Super Destroyers, it’ll probably be the same, because the Super Destroyers would only be able to provide support to the Helldivers when they’re on the exterior of the Ishimura. After all, Hellpods can’t go through multiple layers of steel and composite. That means no resupply from the Super Destroyers, and no strategem support at all, for the vast majority of the time. Plus, they’re made out to be the special forces of Super Earth, but the tutorial of Helldivers 2, which is literally Helldiver boot camp, can be beaten in about 10 minutes with little effort. Compare this to special forces training irl, which takes roughly a year and a half in the US, and you realize that Helldivers actually recieve significantly less training than even conscripts typically do irl. Not to mention that Helldivers dont even have training on breaching/clearing buildings, which is something you wouldn’t think is relevant until you realize that the Ishimura is basically a giant building in space that can move. So…combine all of this, and you get a squad of 4 guys with an average 20-30 minutes of training combined, none of which involves fighting in structures like the Ishimura, with zero support from their ships in 99% of their encounters with the Necromorphs, plus the influence of the Marker, plus the fact that they’re fighting basically hivemind zombies (which is something Helldivers have never encountered before), and you pretty quickly get a result of 4 dead Helldivers. Like…I’d be surprised if even ONE of the four Helldivers sent in actually lives long enough to reach the food storage fight. Heck, I’d be surprised if more than one of them is alive at the point everyone realizes the Ishimura’s ADS system is broken, but…the ADS system being broken wouldn’t really matter, because there’s four fully armed warships (the Super Destroyers) basically directly adjacent to the Ishimura at all times.
@Gaaaaaame
@Gaaaaaame 4 ай бұрын
The fact that their life expectancy is so low is primarily because they are thrown into the fray vs hundreds of opponents. While they wouldnt fare well in CQB, their low life expectancy helps them, as the markers effect would likely not break their will before a necromorph breaks their face
@陈凯文-n1h
@陈凯文-n1h 4 ай бұрын
@@Gaaaaaame havent played dead space but helldivers did fought enemies with mind altering and control capabilities, the illuminates best they can to the helldiver (aka as players) is to annoy by changing our controls but will still fight agaisnt them
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
@@陈凯文-n1htrust me look into the lore. There is a reason people put the Necromorphs against The Flood. For both go straight up HP Lovecraft and it’s horrifying
@Kitkat-986
@Kitkat-986 3 ай бұрын
It's easy to underestimate Helldivers because of the satire. Yes, Helldivers die a lot, but they do so against overwhelming odds. Lone Helldivers regularly take down house sized enemies and achieve kill counts in the hundreds. A fireteam of veteran Helldivers is capable of fighting an entire battalion of Automatons and winning.
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
This is literally eldritch undead gods vs a bunch of cannon fodder with orbital strikes. Should we mention dead space humanity straight up have mining ships that rip planets apart? The problem is that the divers are basically an infinite cheat code for the Necromorphs. Especially since the real reanimating signal is energy based that is unidentifiable even while it is blocked, which takes an entire marker to be sealed which even then isn’t safe. The helldivers would just instantly fall for the brethren moons would just use their own brainwashing against them. Even the basic slasher can cleave a poor helldiver in half with the armor piercing rounds just doing nothing to them. Shotguns can be effective but just temporarily For people forget dismemberment isn’t permadeath, the necromorph biomass just breaks down and reforms into a new necromorph hence why the bodies in the games despawn. Plus the brethren moons can just fly over to super earth and swat it out of existence since it’s clear the helldivers don’t have any planet busters. So uh, oof.
@r.a.d.d.a.d.7903
@r.a.d.d.a.d.7903 4 ай бұрын
In this scenario I’d imagine the only reason the divers showed up is because Isaac decided to just escape instead of leading the charge, in which case he would find and debrief the divers leading to their assault on the ship and planet in the first place
@NorthernNorthdude91749
@NorthernNorthdude91749 4 ай бұрын
Here's an idea: Could Delta Squad (Star Wars: Republic Commando) survive Dead Space?
@yes4720
@yes4720 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully sev doesn’t split up from the squad
@FinnMcGregor-t8e
@FinnMcGregor-t8e 4 ай бұрын
It would be so cool if we had a ship map, where like our ship was being boarded, or we were boarding an automaton ship, and like in this, stratagems like the 500kg and orbital rail cannon were disabled
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Awe man that would be so sick hopefully they add something like this or like a moon map where we can fight in low gravity
@YukimareThePsion
@YukimareThePsion 2 ай бұрын
In regards to the concern about air filters or O2 tanks, the new Chemical Agents warbond shows that helldivers do in fact have some form of air filtration in their helmets. Though the quality may differ from armor to armor, with the armor granted by the Chemical Agents warbond having superior air filtration specifically designed for use with chemical weapons so a helldiver could basically bathe the area in mustard gas and whatever toxin they dream of and barely be affected. If anything, judging from the fact that you have 80% damage resistance to gas in that armor, it's likely that the protection level is actually near-complete if not complete protection from any airborne toxin, but staying in it may slowly asphyxiate the user due to no built-in oxygen tanks. If somehow, the Helldivers were given custom armor able to fight in Zero G to fight on spaceships, assuming the SEAF does not screw them over, it may be possible they could procure armor that can work around those hazards. But as of this time, no real solution to Zero G unfortunately, as we have not yet had a reason to fight in such atmospheres.
@Battleguild
@Battleguild 4 ай бұрын
Sweet Liberty! Make Us Whole!
@fearthewolf1175
@fearthewolf1175 4 ай бұрын
I’m not going to lie, the Divers would be screwed seven ways from Sunday. Between the various types of mutated corpses with normal human strength limiters removed (a biological thing that limits our strength so our bodies don’t tear themselves apart) and tactics used by the Necros, the Divers chances are not great. The damn things rip open steel doors and walls like nothing. Things also like getting the jump on people when survivors least expect it. The Diver’s unique weapons might keep them alive for a bit, but the Sovereign Colonies sent a whole fleet full of sailors and soldiers with a good understanding of what was going on with appropriate weapons and they still all got munched on. Besides from my understanding the Divers are little better trained conscripted fanatics high as a kite on stims made to think they are the best. Their mental training might help for a good portion of horrors, but then again how often do you expect to meet mutated zombies and Marker insanity
@陈凯文-n1h
@陈凯文-n1h 4 ай бұрын
helldivers to face similar enemies like hunters or stalker they jump on you when they least expect it(also helldivers do have gps built in which also detects nearby enemies), chargers, bile titans(which they considered medium or small size to there homeworld) , and hive lord (which is the size of sky scraper or even taller) can easily crush buildings helldivers are carefully selected from SEAF and the tutorial is basically comedy bit as by reading some of the weapons and armor description they do get alot of training while being fanatics which makes them more dangerous and they will fight to death and has nothing to lose and helldivers cant be easily be mind controlled or any mind manipulation easily and if they do best it can do is hinder theyre movement since they fought illuminates who mind altering capabilities
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
@@陈凯文-n1hdo they have to face entities that move so fast that there is a literal delay in your body realizing you’ve been bisected?
@陈凯文-n1h
@陈凯文-n1h 4 ай бұрын
@IntrusiveThoughts838 so far lore wise The fastest they face are illuminates they can teleport and are fastest of the 3 faction(not sure if that even come close) If anything heldivers does have sense of realism so getting bisected would just outright kill them even if body notice or not not saying they can survive in a dead space universe Just saying that some of this hazards they face its not really new to them
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
@@陈凯文-n1h I mean saying they’re fast isn’t really much of something to say.
@gibbodyartinternational1818
@gibbodyartinternational1818 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I think that in the game their on a planet with oxygen so they wouldn't need oxygen tanks for those missions but if the mission is in space then there uniforms chage to have oxygen tanks and some planets might not even have trees to give oxygen or whatever so I think there armor changes depending on what the Misson is
@Idiotdragon8
@Idiotdragon8 3 ай бұрын
I think in these close quarters, Helldivers would be screwed. Their stratagems would not be available except any support weapons they were allowed to carry. They’re also just as fragile as a normal person, unlike Isaac. I think the Helldivers go in guns blazing, don’t figure out that they need to shoot off limbs, run through nearly all their ammunition (not before someone dies to a ricochet) and then go mad and shoot each other. They’d certainly go mad due to the marker, because they’ve demonstrated no issue with being controlled by a malevolent power bigger than themselves.
@arat7106
@arat7106 4 ай бұрын
the helldivers would fail because there's no way they could fight in hallways and close quarters without killing each other
@kronos661
@kronos661 3 ай бұрын
Observe.
@GamesforCykits
@GamesforCykits 4 ай бұрын
They clear, they even have drones and bubble sheilds and have heavy armor, I'm pretty sure they have some kind of suit that allows for space walks and prevent hazards in the air from killing them since they visit so many planets in their universe with dangerous atmospheres
@D3ltatheanimator
@D3ltatheanimator 4 ай бұрын
Helldivers have fought on the moon without problem,so I’d say they don’t have to worry about oxygen
@Beep325
@Beep325 Ай бұрын
With what's happened to Meridia in Helldivers 2 , they could destabilize the Bretheren Moons and turn them into black holes, completely blocking the Markers influence in a system. Their indoctrination and unconditional support of Super Earth and it's objectives, as well as their encounters with the Illuminate would make them much more resistant to the Markers' influence. Helldivers life support systems would likely allow them to breath in the vacuum of space, as they are known to breath in air on burning planets, which would deprive them of oxygen without their suits.
@WildmanTrading
@WildmanTrading 4 ай бұрын
If their fighting ship to ship in general they would probably have a special version of our ground armour designed for space maneuvering.
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
That would be such a cool future warbond I hope they do something like that
@Shadow-bc5nr
@Shadow-bc5nr 4 ай бұрын
I think hell diver armor has oxygon tank because many of the planets are not livable. For example acid storm planets or fire planets.
@GodwynDi
@GodwynDi Ай бұрын
Honestly, call orbital strikes on the Ishimura instead of boarding it is probably the correct choice.
@7DeadlyJinxs
@7DeadlyJinxs 4 ай бұрын
The marker had a long time to affect the people of the Ishimura, not saying it won't affect the Helldiver squad, in fact exposure to the Marker is a death sentence, but it shouldn't affect them enough to hinder their mission in the meager time they have been exposed to the marker.
@Mudskipper-z2b
@Mudskipper-z2b 4 ай бұрын
I feel like a huge deciding factor is if the destroyer you have is the one being attacked be the necromorphs or if you are going to the necromorphs because then that decides if you can call in stratagems
@ZzVinniezZ
@ZzVinniezZ 4 ай бұрын
Brotheren moon will find it difficult to control most normal helldiver due to their sheer democracy
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
No they would find it even easier through just manipulating them into seeing others as undemocratic
@Vile.Amity.
@Vile.Amity. 3 ай бұрын
I bet if this happened in helldivers they’d just send some canon fodder helldiver suicide teams to mark strategic locations for bombardment. It is, after all, a ship.
@devilgamer-rr8639
@devilgamer-rr8639 4 ай бұрын
You should deffinitly do more of this what ifs, they are amazing
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Got some in the works 🙏
@bapnap6218
@bapnap6218 4 ай бұрын
Short answer no long answer there just human so no.(the marker can make them believe its a super earth monument that needs protection.)
@DrilleDeLesee
@DrilleDeLesee 3 ай бұрын
I imagine the Helldiver’s armor (at least the standard issue armor) would be rather effective, considering it’s made with the same alloy as a Super Destroyer’s hull. And I believe they can breath in space considering quite a few of the planets we fight on in the game are moons with a questionable state of an atmosphere.
@anza3007
@anza3007 4 ай бұрын
I feel like there's a lot more that can really be said, and the more you think about, the more it's obvious the Divers ain't getting out of this one. The main points I can think of would be the cramped environment, and the tactics of the Necromoprhs.
@thatdumbguy4131
@thatdumbguy4131 4 ай бұрын
Here’s an idea for a video "could helldivers liberate a xenomorph and/or a Yautja (aka alien predators) planet"
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Yo that’s a really cool idea
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
No.. no they wouldn’t..
@Whatdoyouhell
@Whatdoyouhell 4 ай бұрын
Hell, yeah, we can. We just need to stick together.
@mrmedic7799
@mrmedic7799 4 ай бұрын
The biggest threat to Helldivers is friendly fire
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Real and true especially when the marker might turn them against each other
@wanderingrock6756
@wanderingrock6756 4 ай бұрын
Another topic could be "could Super Earth win a war against a Necromorph infested planet" note I'm not bringing in Brethren Moons into this because then the answer would be no as I can't see them winning. While Helldiver's certainly have the fire power to win battles the problem is their solution to every war is just to send as many soldiers as they needs to over power the enemy but that is the opposite of what you want to do when fighting necros as they just add the dead to their troops.
@zipster6393
@zipster6393 3 ай бұрын
6:50 I don't think Helldivers would have any issues navigating zero-g environments of space. While the lack of gravity may cause some troubles, absolute zero temperatures and the vacuum itself would be manageable. On planets like Fenrir III, we see that we can see the star it orbits, but there's no sky, simply just space, suggesting it either lacks an atmosphere or has a very thin one.
@EjP2396
@EjP2396 3 ай бұрын
Counterpoint on the marker: helldivers are protected by freedom and democracy
@pkmtsar701st9
@pkmtsar701st9 4 ай бұрын
Kinda think about like this helldivers been to a lot of place especially those place have environmental hazards So you’re more likely to have a system of a oxygen system and if not, they still have like a tight helmet give them a temporary time to cross some parts of the ships without oxygen
@turtle-encilada827
@turtle-encilada827 4 ай бұрын
I don't know about having a relative durability to Isaac, I've seen Helldivers tank rockets to the dome and walk it off
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 4 ай бұрын
Isaac can survive rockets too, he took one easily, not to mention he’s survived large explosions some strong enough to pulverize massive boulders, y’all underestimate him too much.
@IntrusiveThoughts838
@IntrusiveThoughts838 4 ай бұрын
@@LeaderOfTheLostSoulsalso can tank thousands of feet of falling too
@Saber-bell
@Saber-bell 3 ай бұрын
Definitly do helldivers vs terminator
@CommissarKai
@CommissarKai 4 ай бұрын
First off, hello other Kai! Second, I do think the Helldivers have some form of protection against contamination since we're wading through bug spores half the time. I kinda doubt we would be able to survive the vacuum of space, but we do appear to at least have some protection from biological contamination.
@Sci-FiKai
@Sci-FiKai 4 ай бұрын
Based name 🙏 and I agree! It only makes sense for them to have filtration systems in their suits
@The_Hamburglar.
@The_Hamburglar. 4 ай бұрын
I think they’d be fine because I doubt half of the planets we see in game have oxygen
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech 4 ай бұрын
If we negate the marker driving them crazy (can explain it that due to the helldivers fighting the mind altering illuminate from the first games the troops are slightly resistant to mind control, or the propaganda machine makes them ti singularly focused😂) The helldivers guns are a lot better than dead spaces tools lol. The Jar 5 punches through a lot of metal alloys like nothing. Literally a rocket propelled round that’s massive. Shotguns that should energy, fire, flamethrowers. Rail guns with level 6 pen which is basically gonna punch through a necromorph like nothing. Gonna explode that thing so hard. Quasar canon gonna vaporize it into necroburgers lol. Not to mention their stims basically makes them immune to all damage and heals all wounds except for being crushed. And the massive amounts of explosives they have not even including strategems. Impact grenades that spread fire. Stun grenades which completely immobilizes targets much like a stripped down kinesis module. I’d also like to see the necromorphs survive an emancipator suit with the quad auto cannons lol.
@TrixyTrixter
@TrixyTrixter 3 ай бұрын
I would argue with you on the idea that they would want or need to clear the entire ship of necromorphs. After all we are assuming they got their ships parked a bit outside so just seeing the level of infestation it makes more sense to get out and then orbital lazer or nuke the ishimura away and just get to work on the planet instead.
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