Could've Been The Biggest Latino Group Ever! What Happened To TERROR SQUAD?

Why didn’t Terror Squad have more success during the early 2000s. What happened? Fat Joe began to have success in the industry with 8 years under his belt before founding Terror Squad. He was the most successful latino rapper in rap at the time, until Big Pun jumped on the scene. Pun’s first album went platinum, making him the first latino rapper to do so. Joe also had a gold album the same year. Outside of that early on (later Remy and Khaled) they didn’t have, or push other talent, so after Pun passed away, the group crumbled. A group like terror Squad were a collection of artist that didn’t organically come together, instead you had two dominant figure heads, Fat Joe and Big Pun that came together really to work with each other and so happened to have their own artist they brought with them that moved as a put together unit, similar to State Property of Roc a Fella. Another issue the group were facing was the elephant in the hip hop room that they were latino predominantly, with the exception of “prospect” aka sleepy thug who was half black. It’s not often, especially in the late 90s you saw successful latino groups, so Terror Squad had their work cut out for them, but also a unique opportunity to be the first to do it. By all accounts they did do it, and had some success. Mostly they had huge potential to capitalize on both the black and Hispanic communities had all things go right. Instead their run was short and they quickly fizzled out for these 3 reasons. Let’s talk about it. Make sure you like, subscribe and turn on all notifications so you don’t miss anything. R.I.P BIG Pun.
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[@stuntedgrowthmusic]

It's unbelievable what has become of Terror Squad. From Pun passing(R.I.P) to Fat Joe and Cuban Link's long time ongoing beef, to the group squandering a chance to be the best, or only latino led group to have the success they were having. I really think with Pun still alive, they would've been one of the best groups of all time regardless of race. Did Fat Joe run them into the ground after?

[@rubski-ds9yc]

Armageddon is black not Hispanic.

[@BigDapPacino]

Well technically most of Them was Pun's proteges ...not Fat Joe...Full of Clips Crew...Terror Squad was actually the South Bronx crew Fat Joe was a member of ...that was lead by his big homie Tony Montana( alias, not real name) who got murdered...I think Nas has referenced him in songs...so he must have been a Heavyweight on the streets but anyway, Pun was the anchor...even Joe said that...he was sick with the pen and would make everybody's verses sound tighter...he also made Joe, Triple Seis, Shorty Prospect , and Cuban Link step their game up...Cuban had bars and charisma but he crossed Joe...Remy Ma benefited and that is why she got a career ...with some hits under her belt and the rest ...did not as a solo artists!

[@earskinchilds3676]

Terror Squad could have been great but the death of Pun stunted them as they were beginning to grow

[@earskinchilds3676]

Could you do a stunted growth on Bone Thugs-N-Harmony

[@rubski-ds9yc]

@Carson douglas well u know what I mean lol

[@Dtown1996]

Wish Big Pun took better care of himself

[@leir2005]

Especially when you consider some of the stuff that Fat Joe was allegedly up to after his passing

[@juniorjames7076]

I'm happy to see more people of color in the gym, working out- both men and women. In the 1990s, people thought I either just got out of prison or the military because I worked out and looked diesel. It was hard to find a gym in the hood or urban areas (except for Boxing gyms). There was Bally's and Jack La'Lanes, and that was it. Now you have fitness franchises everywhere. We have no excuse my beautiful Black and Brown peoples, YOUR HEALTH IS YOUR WEALTH!!!!

[@dagodp1799]

Guys like Big Pun Dmx Black rob Can’t help it it’s a deep rooted hurt in there hearts these guys not only didn’t have fathers at home But also had tainted relationships w/there mothers these guys weren’t nurtured by there mothers the pain of feeling abandon can take a toll on a boy to a man

[@jairesemccoy9779]

@@juniorjames7076 who was talking about colored people. We've been working out. I swear colored people bring up race/ethnics/nationality for no fucking reason. I and many other find it annoying. And yes, I am a brown skin, 4c hair person. Get a grip. How the fuck are we going ti get rid of racism when we are creating the division we hated, just to replace it with.... Division. We all bleed regardless of color. Stop acting like colored people haven't been in the gym. Maybe in your area, but people of all colors have been in the gym.

[@playboymaxim]

@@juniorjames7076 The thing is, you don't need a "gym" to take care of your health. Going for a 30 min walk everyday or doing 100 pushups a day is absolutely free. Not to mention eating right and drinking water.

[@marcelrobinson]

Pun dying was the nail in the coffin. When Terror Squad lost their main event guy, the other guys in the group including Fat Joe, didn't have the charisma or star appeal to carry the group. I can say that same for Tha Outlawz when Pac died.

[@DFRNTVIEWSTV]

Yes but pac was already developing their talent and put them on big singles he needed more time. Joe could have done much better he hasnt even signed a artist to terror squad this era.

[@gregorygriffin6341]

Me as well. Pac tried to his dying day to build them up (Outlaws). Joe, on the other hand, my answer is the same as everyone else's. His business acumen wasn't as strong. It seemed the best thing he could do was shout 'em out.

[@vaughnreedjr6592]

Outlaw didn't do shit after pac death.

[@DFRNTVIEWSTV]

@@vaughnreedjr6592 they tried they dropped some projects . Hussien fatal was All over ja rules blood in my eye album and the outlaws was once signed to young buck label. Just not developed enough before pac passed.

[@hennylo68]

Khadafi had star potential, he just got shot right after 2pac.

[@DRoyale1]

I’m Jamaican from Miami, Terror Squad were my guys back then. I loved their energy and flow. I could couldn’t care less they’re Hispanic, to me…all Caribbean.

[@Igetsitin89]

U lying Yankee lol

[@Jac735]

Yaaa mon respect bredda

[@matthewmann8969]

Pun easily had the best wordplay, metaphors, vowels, verbs, nouns, pronouns, and onwards yeah

[@jtr5336]

Cuban Linx verse on Big Pun’s “Glamour Life” is one of the most inspiring guest verses ever 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@riversider2506]

🧢

[@ghettoasfuckxp]

@@riversider2506 it’s a legendary verse tho gtfoh with that cap kiddo

[@6thbr871]

Pun had to write those lyrics idc, Cuban not that good lol

[@jtr5336]

@@6thbr871 I’m talking about the verse, not the rappers lyrical ability. He clearly has it but stunted growth could do a 30 min documentary on his growth stunts

[@6thbr871]

@@jtr5336 no I’m talking about that specific verse on “glamour life” that had pun written all over it, Cuban never rapped that good before or after.

[@pmcneil15]

Big Pun is easily one of the greatest ever! He lyrically bodied anybody he shared a song with

[@averyjacob5476]

The only one that could go back and forth with Black Thought

[@yell0wberry]

I think that’s why in the video, I shot ya, he didn’t say a word, otherwise he would have torched his own man on wax

[@carcriticexplained172]

Pun is the goat. Kids these days have no idea. RIP big pun.

[@maroon9273]

Gone too soon at a young age especially during high point of his career.

[@juanboss560]

I was just thinking about Terror Squad. They could have all had Platinum albums but Fat Joe didn't have the business acumen.

[@juanboss560]

All of them was fire. Prospect and Armageddon were better than Fat Joe in his prime. Armageddon wrote for Joe before.

[@Stonecoldalston]

@Terence Johunkin you can't say that for sure because big died so premature we didn't get to see them devolope if Pun don't die we most likely don't get them beefing and the chemistry would be better add in DJ khaled becoming who he became and cool and Dre production they definitely could have gone further especially Remy if Pun was alive I don't thin she go to Jail over the BS and even if it was only Pun Joe and Remy going Platinum and another went gold that's still a great roster Don't underestimate the power of a super star I don't think we got to see the best of Pun I think he was on his way to multiple multi Platinum Albums and when you got a guy like that on the roster the fans should support the other dudes as long as their not whack look at G Unit 50 was so hot people even let Tony Yayo get a few hits Lloyd Banks and Buck both went Platinum that was Dope but the moment they wasn't next to 50 anymore their careers went downhill compared to what it was

[@JECZ23]

Joe was always jealous of CL's lyrical ability. He knew CL was better than him lyrically & looked the part. So he kept pushing his album back & putting out anotber solo joint & TS album. Joe knew exactly what he was doing.

[@paulywoodtheprince]

All due Respect gawd, the was Never, Ever a Day in Human history where Cuban Linx was Better than Joey Crack at anything in Rap/HipHop, they very close Lyrically but when it comes to Showmanship and Persona... Joe takes it

[@raysinatra8092]

Cuban and pun used to ghostwrite fat joe bars

[@acidmack1041]

@@paulywoodtheprince I don't agree with that. Cuban was lyrically better and had better flow than Joe...but each to their own

[@DC-xp4bl]

@@paulywoodtheprince Fam stop it.

[@Bsfnelz20]

@@raysinatra8092 💯 FACTS the nerve of ppl to say CUBAN LINK is not on RAT JOE level CUBAN EVEN WROTE FOR DIDDY

[@princemastaking]

CAN YOU DO FLIPMODE SQUAD NEXT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ONE TO DO.

[@gregorygriffin6341]

Oh yeah. And Canibus.

[@Vintagetube310]

Cuban link had superstar potential.

[@RedWolf75]

It's why Joe had his face cut

[@87alock]

Tony Sunshine could've been a star. Dude really could sing

[@Limejuice305]

He couldn't stop doing powder 🤦

[@91Definite]

@@Limejuice305 I think also he saw what Joe was about too

[@adrienneroxanne9833]

Oh yes with his fine self. ☺ On Facebook a few years ago he wanted to invite me to a listening party he had in New York. I didn't go 😕

[@Limejuice305]

@@91Definiteyea he smoked hard too. No lie I know his peeps

[@Igetsitin89]

@@adrienneroxanne9833 he might have been trying to fuck 🙁

[@JeromeKyng]

This is why it's important to have more than one star on your team. You have to have a few talented member so if one passes away or gets locked up, the others can carry the torch. This is why Wu-tang Cash Money, and The Lox have lasted so long. Everyone is talented, pushing the team forward, not just one man.

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

Fat joe was the other star however didn’t want to push Cuban links

[@Stonecoldalston]

@@dwaynejpeterkin if Pun was alive they would have all got their shine

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

@@Stonecoldalston pun would of left joe and have the lean back beat

[@waltergill1226]

@@dwaynejpeterkin you know what bro ,I never saw Joe as a star at all(not to pun caliber).I think he just happened to look like pun and pun wrote some things for him. Pun was to Terror Squad what biggie was to junior mafia... Joe was like ...lil kim

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

@@waltergill1226 all joe was is a lil cease except he got lucky when he found big pun handbook and learn how to make hits properly joe won’t be able to sleep at night knowing he’ll forever be known as big pun sidekick

[@flygenyus2186]

No one on the label really stood out besides Pun & Rem. Now personally, Tony Sunshine was my guy but only way he could blow up is if he did features for people outside of TS

[@jmjfanss]

and to a lesser extent DJ Khaled.

[@ghost1235]

We need one on Paul Wall or Chamillionaire.

[@oldheadtv3152]

You know they started as a duo until they began beefing with each other?

[@KDBetter]

Chamillionaire would be awesome. He really lived up to his name!!

[@latrelle611]

I totally agree we do

[@gothamcityarcade]

If Pun didnt pass away they still didnt have no direction in developing their young artists... Fat Joe was always about the money never about craft that Big pun was trying do during his time in the terror squad.. I remember living in the Bronx and seeing Big pun driving his S500 looking for inspiration and as for talent around hood... I never seen or heard anything of Fat Joe that didnt benefit anyone but himself.. Pure example look at the Vensus (fat joe vs Ja rule) fat joe didnt have no feature with no terror squad artist/artists that didnt come before remy or dj Khaled! I realize an artist you have to look out for yourself but you cant call yourself a "BOSS" if you only making money for your own label.. Big Pun show that if you put some of people on and develop them would be beneficial down the road like Triple Seis and prospect.

[@Jac735]

Fat joe isn't cool with the original terror squad anymore I heard a few are in jail prospect was the only one that was chilling and Tony sunshine till his beef with curtis and Khaled is a 🤡 never liked him never will and I'm not a fan of Remy the original members were alot better and they went hard Fat Joe changed when he did the album all or nothing represented Miami since his boys were there and that didn't make him look good why you rapping Miami but you from NY only some songs was reppin instead he shoulda shouted them out in the beginning and the end but he didn't he only had a few street hits on there everything else was way too pop

[@rubski-ds9yc]

There first album from 1999 is a classic 🔥🔥

[@jayskicksnfits9372]

*Their* ,NOT There. 😂😂😂😂

[@oldheadtv3152]

@@jayskicksnfits9372 And that album wasn't a classic. 3 mics in The Source.

[@MrAngelroc]

@@jayskicksnfits9372 😂😂😂😂

[@jayskicksnfits9372]

@@oldheadtv3152 That album was pretty mediocre even though I wanted it when it dropped.

[@djwalkerfemaledj]

@@jayskicksnfits9372 Smarty-pants 🤣😂

[@Officialkingz1]

Pun was the best lyricist in TS by far. He was the star and the glue so when he passed everything fell apart!

[@Southmuzik81]

I’m still mad Pun and Em never got to work together smh

[@Thehokage36]

Ehhh

[@brandonbates9259]

@@flygenyus2186 wow lol he said Pun and Em..Not Fat joe and Em

[@flygenyus2186]

@@brandonbates9259 I misread. Thanks for pointing that out

[@carcriticexplained172]

Omg could you imagine them two on the same track

[@Southmuzik81]

@@carcriticexplained172 Exactly bruh

[@25nahshon]

You should do a video on Cuban Link and Remy Ma. I remember listening to Cuban Link back in the day wondering why he wasn't bigger in the rap game.

[@EWUFBIiswatching]

I keep feeling like you’re teasing me with Esquire and CANIBUS 😂😂 great shit as always bruh bruh. Always entertaining and informative, thanks for what you do.

[@edwardmartinez2323]

Big Pun was the greatest of all of them when he sing you can tell he had that spark and made you motivated i was 13 when he died but 21 years later still listen to him plus he made me be proud to be a Boricua RIP Big Pun November 10, 1971 -February 7, 2000

[@AfricaGeo]

You have good taste in music

[@lolabunnii5368]

I love this channel

[@stuntedgrowthmusic]

Salute 💯

[@KDBetter]

I hope he’s close to 1mil 😭

[@southamerican4870]

@@stuntedgrowthmusic Are you unaware of the fact that Latin American Spanish and Portuguese speaking music artists are getting hundreds of millions and billions of views on KZbin?

[@healthychuku3297]

Love the channel I have an artist that may be interesting. Red Cafe

[@waltergill1226]

What's so crazy is literally everybody and I mean EVERYBODY loves Fat Joe and Terror Squad. Everybody says they are solid, held them down, invited them to parties, protected them, i mean everything. But internally it was turmoil.

[@brooklynbred1460]

Yo Goofball Fat Joe just disrespected 2 black women and you got love for him?

[@waltergill1226]

@@brooklynbred1460 just because you throw your cape on for any broad(black, white green or yellow) doesn't mean i do 😂

[@hennylo68]

@@brooklynbred1460 Man shut up. It was a battle and in a battle anyone can get it. Did you keep that same energy when 50 and the whole G-Unit were dissing the shit out of Ashanti or when Game used to dis the fuck out of Olivia. Or when 2pac dissed the fuck out of Lil Kim. What they said was way more disrespectful than what Joe said.

[@bandocalrissianesq.9697]

Everybody except the people that buy rap music....Joe is literally one the weakest rapper with the most longevity....I guess that's somethingh

[@waltergill1226]

@@bandocalrissianesq.9697 they were talking about his personality.... not him lyrically lol. I've tried to indulge in his music and just COULDN'T get into it, even in the 90s when pun was around,I just couldn't find myself liking him.

[@DoctorOfLawOrSomething]

Cuban Link was that guy! He should have been primed to be next up.

[@freedommgtow4996]

Terror Squad was over when Pun' past away. This group along with The Flipmode Squad could've been one of the greatest groups next to The Legendary "Marley Marl" Juice Crew All-Star. I miss Christopher 😢he'll always be one of my favorites.

[@jayskicksnfits9372]

It's *passed* ,NOT past. 😂😂😂😂

[@MrAngelroc]

@@jayskicksnfits9372 😂😂😂😂

[@djwalkerfemaledj]

@@jayskicksnfits9372 LOL

[@KRSonbe]

I have to disagree. The Terror Squad had their biggest hit with "Lean Back", 4 years after Pun passed. Their next album was their best selling ("Based On A True Story") and they got nominated for a Grammy as well.

[@freedommgtow4996]

@@KRSonbe 🤔I'm referring too "Consistency/Longevity" as a collective music powerhouse..

[@spencertracy2626]

Sad, I miss the old TS

[@eugenedantzler4485]

Big Pun was the heart and soul of Terror Squad period.....

[@Nay089]

Cuban Link was nice. Always thought the way Joe treated Pun’s peoples after he passed was foul

[@qubanwaro3199]

Yea but trip out,there was word that cuban fucked puns wife

[@91Definite]

@@qubanwaro3199 yea that was definitely a rumor 🤔! When you think about it? That was disloyal to Pun on a personal tip

[@hennylo68]

Dope video. I miss the old Terror Squad. That first Terror Squad album was so dope. This would have been probably the most lyrical group in hip hop history.

[@damonwade9476]

Can't forget Armageddon he was alright💯

[@relyonme4]

Nicely done, u definitely did your homework on this

[@gregorygriffin6341]

Pun, from the jump, made such a crazy impression on me when he spit. But also, from the jump, his weight worried me. A small part of me knew he wasn't gonna last long. But the bars are FOREVER. BTW, I never did like the '...PLAYER' remix. Sorry.

[@itsraypearson]

yo greg I might have the last big pun verse kzbin.info/www/bejne/maW9emWupM9jbJI

[@gregorygriffin6341]

@@itsraypearson aight, thanks. I'll check it out when I get a minute.

[@itsraypearson]

@@gregorygriffin6341 salute

[@lancoschino731]

You nailed it

[@oyedeleoyediran7200]

I believe you should do an episode on Cuban Link. His growth was stunted as well.

[@brooklynsennyhardaway2430]

R.I.P Big Pun 🙏🏽🕊🌹🗽

[@TheStop]

Why do you think Fat Joe had one of the best verses on John Blaze? .....The writings on the wall lol

[@stephenheath8465]

He had a good verse but compare to the greats on that track he came fifth jmo

[@Historicutuber]

Lean Back was legendary

[@abe_linc02]

So exited too watch. I was in the bronx when they took over. It was legendary but short lived. It was just a tease

[@coreyhendricks9490]

TS was dope 👍

[@jimmymumford864]

True that Rip bigpun

[@coreyhendricks9490]

@@jimmymumford864 💯% fam

[@SouthStarTrill92]

Could have been a all time group

[@stuntedgrowthmusic]

Facts.

[@domworld8772]

They would have been bigger than roca fella

[@Stonecoldalston]

@@domworld8772 now you going too far Bigger than Roc A Fella? Jay Z Kayne Beanie Sigel Cam'ron Freeway State Property Memphis all put hits on the board

[@domworld8772]

@@Stonecoldalston Pun would had handle it i know hip hop Jay-Z is not hip hop im sorry 😆

[@Stonecoldalston]

@@domworld8772 who are you to say what's Hip hop the culture would disagree

[@kenomedina3563]

Fabulous interviewing terror squad wow

[@DC-xp4bl]

Pun was the mastermind and pen. With Pun gone in the physical...it was over.

[@91Definite]

It shouldn’t had to be though 🤷🏾‍♂️! Joe just didn’t wanna push his friends

[@DC-xp4bl]

@@91DefiniteJoe cares about Joe. He used Pun. Name a Latino rapper Joe put on since Pun?

[@danieltroche6019]

@@91Definite those were Pun's boys, not Joe's.

[@jus3278]

Pun dying ended it, essentially...

[@jimmymumford864]

R.I.P bigpun I love your videos man

[@ericdiaz153]

Fat Joe always seemed like a shady character didn't Remy Ma have a real issue with Joe at one point ? And then that whole Fat Joe And Cuban Link incident plus Big Pun's baby mom issue. But to Fat Joe's credit he did try to put Terror Squad on the map with the True Story album. But Tbh aside from Remy Ma only Cuban Link and Tony Sunshine really stood out from the Terror Squad group imo

[@91Definite]

Yea she did listen to “You’s A Liar (fat Joe diss)”!

[@adrienneroxanne9833]

She's back to kissing his azz again. 🤨😒

[@stephenheath8465]

If you listen carefully to his old D.I.T.C members.They don't talk to highly of Crack

[@lincolnhamilton7043]

After Pun passed, it definitely went downhill after that.

[@pukysand]

Sounds like a George Benson sample you're using in the background......

[@Ocular_Patdown.-.]

Pun will forever be my favorite rapper, but Cuban Link was right behind him for me. Just an absolute talent. Amazing lyricist. All of his many, many, many Fat Joe disses (lmao) were all 🔥🔥🔥 Fat Joe ran TS into the ground after Pun passed smh

[@itsraypearson]

Big Facts!!!! yo ezequiel i might have the last big pun verse kzbin.info/www/bejne/maW9emWupM9jbJI

[@vaughnwalker1840]

Cuban Link overshadowed all of em.

[@therealmarlonbellamy]

You should do the Outlaws next.

[@diamondd8017]

big pun and joe killed twins which is a deep cover remix if you will of dre and snoop. Crazy how joe stayed in the game so long and finally getting his flowers he actually been popping a long time after ja which people don't acknowledge in his verzuz

[@jeffcherubin9073]

Love the vid but when you say Fat Joe was an "okay rapper", I was like Damn. Don't get me

[@isaacjr85]

Do A Video On Az Stunned Growth

[@camronshean1758]

The beef between Big Pun & Jay-Z would've been a great battle if he were alive as Big Pun was dissing Jay-Z then and their both top lyricist. Beanie Sigel probably would've jumped in and beefed with Big Pun as he went at anyone Jay-Z was beefing with at the time. Big Pun & Beanie Sigel are both lyrical and street dudes, so that would've been crazy and imagine how wild the beef with 50 Cent & Fat Joe would've been if Big Pun was alive. It probably would've started sooner since Big Pun was already beefing with 50 Cent after what he said about him on How To Rob and then Big Pun dissed him on My Turn. If G-Unit & Terror Squad with Big Pun had clashed with each other, it would've gone down in the streets foreal

[@camronshean1758]

@Biz Ness He didn't want it with Jadakiss & Styles P either that's why Beanie Sigel jumped in and Beanie Sigel most likely would have done the same and gone against Big Pun too

[@camronshean1758]

@Biz Ness I don't know, Beanie Sigel was able to go lyrically on par with Jadakiss who's one of the best lyricist ever and people were even saying Beanie Sigel was better than Jay-Z at the time. Beanie Sigel was the street edge for Roc-A-Fella, he was about it foreal. It would've been serious if Beanie Sigel came across Styles P or Sheek Louch at the time they were beefing cause they were for it too. So who knows how a beef with Big Pun would've been cause neither would be playing around

[@camronshean1758]

@Biz Ness Jay-Z did have all of State Property and don't forget Memphis Bleek was about it too even tho most people don't think so. Jay-Z might've responded if Big Pun was alive as he passed away before he really went at Jay-Z on records

[@camronshean1758]

@Biz Ness Not way before he passed. Big Pun dissed Jay-Z on the song Rudeboy Salute from the Terror Sqaud album called The Album released in September 1999 and in an interview. Big Pun then passed away in February 2000 and on his Yeeeah Baby album that came out in April 2000 Big Pun dissed Jay-Z on the song 100%. Big Pun had passed before it really went anywhere

[@jmjfanss]

Yes, big pun hated 5-0 aka 50 cent for real.

[@chrisgraves2832]

DO ONE ON THE Beatnuts👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@bradlee5874]

Yo @StuntedGrowthMusic you should do a vid on 50 Cent. He's not untouchable and it happened to him as well. Unless you scurred...

[@jmjfanss]

Gay unit was garbage unlike pre 2000 terror squad

[@bradlee5874]

@@jmjfanss even their 2003-2004 days?

[@BarzOverAll]

Yo do a video on Lord Have Mercy from Flipmode Squad

[@gregorygriffin6341]

LHM is my DUDE!! He was the secret weapon. His voice......

[@BarzOverAll]

@@gregorygriffin6341 yo facts i was just listening to imperial the other day & he was def a problem

[@andilehadebe1133]

Next up ACE HOOD plz waz signed to def jam & we da best released like 4 albums with star studded features and he was never on top of tha game I wanna know what stunted his growth

[@KDBetter]

I remember meeting him at a summer jam when I interned with the radio station he said he liked my head wrap 💜 it was at that point I realized he was a “REAL” brotha. And it kind of makes sense the industry rejected him in a certain way

[@escdeez2649]

What u gonna do wen Pun come….Album was hard af

[@iraford5788]

Good one.

[@lincolnhamilton7043]

I didn’t see this one coming…WOW

[@CampChamp00]

I've always been torn about how I feel about Big Pun. On one hand, loved the music and him reppin for the Ricans and Latinos but once I found out he was beating his wife and they were relieved he died it's always been hard to look past that

[@ghostduster1]

I feel you. What's wild is when people defend him having beaten his lady. Watching footage of him waking his kids up @ 2am to box each other on his documentary was tough to watch.

[@kindleyfernand4389]

I remember the doc, just found out about his skills.

[@seriouscyrus6982]

@@ghostduster1 I feel you on the wife beating. But waking his kids up to box isn't really bad. He taught them how to fight and defend themselves and each other. The girl was the toughest one lol. And it wasn't always at 2 am. It was whenever they cried over something or got into it with their siblings. He made them box it out which is a good outlet. In the documentary they say pun had real bad anger problems as a kid and he didn't have an outlet for it so he made sure his kids did so they wouldn't end up like him and I truly respect that.

[@seriouscyrus6982]

@Brandon Knight I don't think you should let an artists personal life keep you from appreciating their music.

[@seansmith7462]

He pistol whipped her

[@nikki90100]

Smh imagine how big TS would be if they actually opened the label up to new artists and development. Fat Joe really pulled a Diddy move; he just didn’t have a tv show or silly antics to keep the name current.

[@nikki90100]

@Father Strength 😐having $ means nothing when you have no morals or loyalty. He lived & cashed in on Biggs legacy, while screwing all of his artist out of their royalties and ownership. But hey that means nothing right, as long as he has $. His kids are eating off the backs of 112, Ma$e, Faith Evens, The Hitmen production team and sooooo many more.

[@NuYoriCan1245]

Ayo you forgot. Cypress Hill is the first latino rap group!! Rip 🙏 big punisher

[@91Definite]

A lot of people don’t pay Cypress Hill no attention which is fucked up 😞

[@bodegaboylex]

Cuban Link is one of best 💪

[@chrisjackson2080]

What’s this Cat talking about?! Cypress Hill and the Beatnuts are both Latino groups that were around before TS. Cypress Hill was the first platinum selling Hispanic group.

[@emiliorebenga443]

He said the first platinum selling Latino SOLO artist bruh!

[@francescoravenda5070]

Tony sunshine was dope in my opinion 100% is a classic

[@CesarHernandez-uh9ri]

That's wrong when they're a group of rapper and one get jealous of the other

[@vaughnalexander32]

I heard Pun's engineer had to edit out Pun's breathing between his bars

[@riversider2506]

Shits simple maths : *FAT JOE* fuxked with *BIG PUN* and *BIG PUN* fuxked with *FAT JOE* heavy. *Joe* would have and did whatever Big Pun wanted, so once Joe signed Pun, Pun asked Joe to put his homiez on and Joe did so. Joe didn't really fuxk with Cuban Link like that from the beginning but because Cuban was Puns homie, by default it meant he was the homie to Joe and Joe was cool with it. Once Pun died, Joe didn't really need to be around Cuban Links and as time went on, they separated. No man on this earth owes you anything and Cuban Links feels as if Joe owes him something but in actuality, Joe owes him nothing.

[@stuntedgrowthmusic]

I agree. Well put

[@wandererkenshin7557]

Big Pun was ghost writing for all of the Terror Sqaud when he died Terror Squad died.

[@ziggzagg8878]

I'm in a rap group and couldn't be happier with it. I guess it's person to person.

[@TriceMendoza]

Not a fan of the moves of Joe but can't hate him because he give us Pun one of the best rappers to ever grace a mic

[@principalitycidade4323]

Can you do vic mensa and azaelia banks

[@ZionCHarper2k23]

do Gang Star

[@damiendaniels8550]

Big Pun should have become a living legend.

[@vaselinehands6723]

Even if pun didn't die, I don't think terror squad would survive because Pun was liked so much more than the other members that it would fall apart anyway

[@joeyjoey1154]

I know pun was good but for me cubin link was the next big talents after pun, it's too bad he got blackballed by joe , dude could rap crazy flow he got it all

[@smashboogietheilladelic5740]

Pun was a Great one gone to soon. Rest Easy

[@PrettyDimeTheWordsmith]

I remember when Pun was alive, I heard he said he gained all that weight after he won the lottery some time in the 90s I believe. I wonder if that was true, just curious.

[@donguapisimo4222]

Back in the late 90s I read that he won a fairly large settlement from an accident in NYC or something and yeah he gained all that weight after.

[@PrettyDimeTheWordsmith]

@@donguapisimo4222 thank you

[@denisejohnson7965]

Thank yoi

[@mochaprincess1764]

I just can’t understand how someone can eat them self to death. It’s really pathetic & sad.

[@oldheadtv3152]

In a country with the highest obesity rate?. Not surprising.

[@aidanking7401]

It was an addiction he obviously couldn’t help it and he did lose 100lbs but then gained it back

[@mochaprincess1764]

@@aidanking7401 As if that's any better ...I guess.

[@aidanking7401]

@@mochaprincess1764 don’t be so disrespectful plus pun is better than anyone you listen to

[@TheMelody15]

Don't be rude. Food Addiction is a real thing, Pun probably had traumatic life experiences growing up and used food to cope.

[@Lordmikejay]

Sigh this was like the most saddest stunted growth for me one Pun really was one of the greatest ever but life cut short so career cut short and Fat Joe as u stated was jus a Gangsta Rapper He much better now than what he was 20 plus years ago and that says something Cuban Linx should have been the next guy after Pun but Linx was a Pun Guy and didnt even fuck with Joe smh its a shame cause TS should be as big As The Wu and the Lox and Them

[@deedwayne2752]

Fat Joe held it down after Pun passed ON... my favorite song by Punisher is "Still a Playa"...📌

[@prestigeworldwide5682]

Terror squad I believe was made back in 95’ that included Pun Armageddon and Keith-nut. But Terror Squad the music group not the street gang

[@frankturcios6075]

Once Cuban Link was gone it was the nail in the coffin...Cuban was dope

[@francescoravenda5070]

Cuban is a cool dude he’s legit texted me before on ig he’s a real one screw fat joe

[@adrienneroxanne9833]

He's liked my comments too. 😁

[@kanykabeya2189]

Yes I thought the same far joe is an okay he doesn't have something too real make him really stand out like big pun

[@hazeljackson6830]

Fat joe never made a dollar off of big pun after he died... THAT'S LYING BRO.

[@Limejuice305]

Do a bone thugs n harmony one homie

[@jlopez0710]

Right now it’s Hi Power Soldiers

[@YoungRiaz]

Grimminal had a promising rise but his growth stunted

[@producerfav1974]

What stunted Bone Crusher growth?

[@MrCalverino]

Big Pun is on a few No Limit albums

[@HieiDaHellSpawn94]

Terror Squad could've been the East Coast version of Cypress Hill

[@KD_SWAGGER]

The first Terror Squad album is a classic to me!

[@KD_SWAGGER]

@Nevin Reid Pause!

[@KD_SWAGGER]

@Nevin Reid 👌🏻

[@krambone]

Even if Joe wanted to be the nicest from D.I.T.C. to Terror Squad days he knew he wouldn’t be the nicest when Big L🕊 and Big Pun🕊 is in ya crew Capo status it was lbs