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COULD VOUCHERS HURT PUBLIC SCHOOLS? #TheView co-hosts weigh in after Jay-Z pushes for school vouchers in Pennsylvania. abcn.ws/2RiH3wd
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[@janemontgomery7571]

I live in Indiana, we led the voucher program. Our public schools are struggling to fund programs, private schools can choose their students and we have students thrown back into public schools and the funding stays with the private school. The funding doesn’t follow the student. We too threw out the income requirements, our tax dollars are now subsidizing wealthy parents private school education of their children!

[@shanec9840]

Preach! Spread the word because a lot of people are being duped about these vouchers.

[@alexrodriguez5370]

Thank you for you taking the time to educate us on this topic from experience. Continued success! Many thanks!!

[@lorrie2878]

It's a sin against our children. Thanks, Betsy DeVos you horrible "Christian" profiteer!

[@moniqueengleman873]

Oh wow😮 thanks for the info

[@shayshay7409]

This is the plan, check out Project 2025

[@sheldoncole1151]

Alyssa Farah Griffin: "I think we need a GI Bill for teachers. I think if you go into teaching your education should be paid for. I think we need to pay teachers more. It is we have a teachers shortage in this country" 👏👏💯💯

[@sherribogdanowicz9120]

😊😊😊😊

[@akwumba1]

Yeah because getting shot at is equivalent to teaching snot nosed kids. Also, they all ready have something like this where your education is paid for after 10 years of public work. She didn't say anything enlightening.

[@heidilady]

@@akwumba1you can work in a defunded neighborhood teaching for ten years to get 11k for your loans. NOT worth it!

[@Greyarias2023]

wtf am I agreeing with a republican?!

[@akwumba1]

@@heidilady lmao. If you can't pay back 11K in ten years you might want to delete the Amazon app off your phone.

[@susanne9602]

As I teacher for almost 40 years, I watched where that funding went....math, science, computers and sports. The arts got nothing and most of us had second jobs to buy materials for our classes and students.

[@lorrie2878]

It's a crying shame! Teachers deserve to be paid for the work they do. My kids' teachers were at art shows and concerts and hand bell concerts. They were counselors and and generally wonderful people!

[@theskiesthelimit-q2k]

I taught for 35 years. Most of us had second jobs to make ends meet.

[@zvmZvm0102]

@@theskiesthelimit-q2k Lots of people have 2nd jobs, you're not special.

[@fustinaduberry5645]

​@@zvmZvm0102I bet you are trumper giving your last dollar to him. Teachers should not have to work second jobs to buy supplies for their classes.

[@zvmZvm0102]

@@fustinaduberry5645 I'm one of those who is disgusted by Trump, but am voting for him because the Democrats are racist and misandrist and intolerant. Trump is the lesser of two evils.

[@batgurrl]

Public education in big cities is crucial and needs to be supported. Voucher systems going elsewhere makes no sense

[@SiriusSphynx]

Yes it does. You shouldn't be forced to send your kid to a district school that lets them down.

[@audreycampbell9483]

I have one child with severe learning disabilities. I called several of the charter type schools available, they came right out and told me they wouldn't even consider my son because they don't take kids with disabilities. THEY SHOULD NOT GET A SINGLE DIME OF FEDERAL MONEY BECAUSE THEY OPENLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST DISABLED KIDS.

[@yair77]

Charter schools are not private schools

[@ceeedwards8453]

@@yair77 that's correct...however some parents are under the assumption that they are. Charters schools in most cases donot have special ed teachers because their pay scale is lower than public schools and benefits like healthcare are limited...but that won't stop the charter school from enrolling the special ed student and not providing the services required by the child's iep... the charter school will eventually transfer the child to their local public school..but keep the money I'm a former teacher...seen it happen a number of times.

[@kerrycec03]

Sunny is 100% correct!! The voucher system HURTS public schools. Private schools are heavily corporate minded. If you truly support public education & our educators, do not support vouchers.

[@SupportTheArts-yo8ox]

I understand that, but we can't dismiss private schools and school vouchers. I support it!

[@peterporkeresq.2817]

@@SupportTheArts-yo8ox 🤦🏿

[@rn6710]

Sunny is never correct.

[@CampbellzS0up]

Sunny went to private school lol 😂😂😂

[@SorenHights]

@@CampbellzS0up I thought it was a catholic public school? SO it was a private catholic school?

[@pepperminttaco2924]

Do what Finland did and outlaw private education. If the billionaire’s kids have to go to the locate public school, suddenly they’ll start investing in education.

[@johnwebb2442]

I agree 100%.

[@blackout07blue]

You’re going to confuse Alyssa.

[@The_king567]

That’s horrible idea crazy this has to be said

[@The_king567]

@@johnwebb2442you shouldn’t shows how you are not that smart

[@pepperminttaco2924]

@@The_king567 it’s a brilliant idea and is working well in other parts of the world. You’re probably mad we might have some regulation and your kids won’t be taught that a talking snake tricked a woman to curse humanity.

[@johnwebb2442]

Private schools belong to corporate organizations that have rich and wealthy donors. Public schools belong to the people that deserve resources to better equip and educate students from all walks of life.

[@The_king567]

Sound like we should privatize public schools glad we agree

[@ValLeeWeblog]

Due to government education, 50% of graduates are illiterate. "Half the children in this country, when they graduate, are unable read their diplomas." Legislators are all about elitist rule, keeping the masses uneducated. Only those who employ public schools should finance them. Children cannot function in the basics. It is all about agendas, not learning, to make the populous adhere to insane and deadly agendas to maintain elitists rule and control. The Bible was once the standard and the main book taught in all schools and was respected. Also, Noah Webster's "Blue Back Speller" was part of the curriculum and is still sold on Amazon. It taught upright morals to children as well as the Bible. "The great American educator Noah Webster first published A Grammatical Institute of the English Language, otherwise known as the Blue Back Speller, in 1783. His goal was to provide a uniquely American, Christ-centered approach to training children. "Little did he know that this remarkable gem would become the staple for parents and educators for more than a century and would help to build the most literate nation in the history of the West." Many of the Founding Fathers employed this book to home school their children, including Benjamin Franklin who taught his granddaughter to read, spell, and pronounce words using Old Blue Back.” What progressives are teaching in public schools: "My daughter just started second grade @MetroSchools. I will be pulling her out immediately. Her first “English” lesson of the year is teaching her that white people are bad, mean & racist against African-Americans & Mexicans. My daughter, 7, is not a racist nor is her family.” Jesus Christ, the thrill of hope, for a sick, hurting, and weary world-Romans 10:9-10 from the Bible: “That if you confess with your mouth the LORD Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart man believes to righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made to salvation.”

[@lisabaugus8360]

TN is attempting to do this "bait & switch". The public school system should NOT be de funded!!!! How bout JZ drop some cash and fund the schools himself.

[@cameronjournal]

Yes, Vouchers will kill public education. Next Question.

[@Jcw-u4n]

Good

[@blackout07blue]

@@Jcw-u4nya, we need the 10 commandments on the wall !! 😂😂

[@The_king567]

Good

[@bellfaith1065]

Good

[@SiriusSphynx]

Couldn't happen soon enough

[@Duderf-go4nq]

I’ll say that I’ve worked with student with disabilities in the past. Charter schools and private schools are not required to provide all accommodations. I’ve literally dealt with kids with disabilities who never received help and In some cases didn’t even know how to read.

[@Tortilla.Reform]

Privatization of public goods is never a good idea. As flawed as the government is, it’s still accountable to we the people. Private corporations whose only goal is making money have no duty to the people or what’s right. Trump wanted to privatize the USPS and put DeJoy in charge for that specific reason

[@Salsero12]

Then they need to handle that not the public

[@halfpine9952]

@@Salsero12I think that is what OP is saying…public schools are legally obligated to provide accommodations for students who need them.

[@zvmZvm0102]

I've literally dealt with school administrators who harm kids, shackling them to some faux disability diagnosis because it increases the school's budget. You're disgusting.

[@jenniferhill9924]

If a child can’t read, that’s on the parent.

[@theskiesthelimit-q2k]

Here in North Carolina, charter schools will take students to get their voucher money. When the student is too much of a challenge for the charter schools due to behavior or special needs, they are no longer allowed to be at the charter school. At that point, they return to the public school for the rest of the school year, while the charter school keeps all the voucher money for that child. Another concern is that the public schools have all sorts of testing requirements and training that they must follow. The charter schools have nada.

[@halfpine9952]

Funding public schools is a much more robust way to bolster our education system. School choice doesn’t require that private schools accept every student who applies, so the school has the choice, not the students.

[@bkm2797]

Oooh sounds like a way to hide racism, typical RepubliCon move!

[@halfpine9952]

@@bkm2797could be disability, race, sexual orientation, gender expression. Private schools remain just that, private, regardless of these silly vouchers.

[@heidilady]

Exactly, so these schools appear to be offering better education, when they are not. They are just choosing students that perform better.

[@jaysand962]

You have been paying people with gift cards how stupendous . Billionaires built that school and they did nothing but “Chase” rump .

[@Lily-fu4vm]

Exactly! Public schools are required to accept all students who walk through their doors, regardless of socio/economic status, mental health/behavioral issues/IQ/family disfunction etc. Private schools can screen kids, and accept only the creme dela creme. No wonder they look good in comparison. Vouchers are just a drop in the bucket towards improving education for the masses. The reality of the situation is, most kids are going to go through our public school system, and we need to figure out how to fix it. (without government interference from the left or right!)

[@kitparker271]

As a teacher in the public school system, I can tell you that we NEED our classrooms fully funded! Vouchers can only cover the same amount of money that the state gives per student to public schools. That amount in my state will never cover the full tuition to a private school. So, as Sunny said it truly is the more well-off parents that are the ones who would benefit. The parents who are working 3 jobs just to put food on the table could never make the tuition - even with the voucher. Public schools need more teachers, smaller classrooms, and a little freedom to teach how we know is best for the children sitting in front of us. We ARE professionals in our field.

[@waneemo9067]

I live in Iowa. Our govenor Kim Reynolds pushed private school vouchers so hard that she primaried any Republican lawmaker that opposed it. It was unpopular and has become even more unpopular as more people realize the damage it causes to public schools. It has cost more than double the initial predicted cost in the first year. Over 60% of school vouchers go to those already going to private school. Private schools can discriminate for any reason. They do not have to meet the same educational standards of public schools. Also, oversight is by an out-of state entity. Most importantly, they take money from already chronically underfunded public schools, especially rural schools. Schools have closed.

[@jameseddy7485]

They already are. Public schools are dying. Charter schools and vouchers are killing public schools. In Jacksonville Florida we having to close 30 schools because the down fall.

[@mpls844]

As a Scandinavian Minnesotan, private schools are an absolute no. Education/daycare is a basic human right at every level, ages 0-100+. It must be free and equally accessible to all. Public schools must be fully funded. Educators should be revered and paid on the same level as lawyers/doctors. They educate and raise the next generation to walk the planet after all.

[@fireboybx]

Vouchers have been proven not to work. One can point to some examples here and there, but for the most part they don’t and ultimately just make public schools worst.

[@justincastillogayray]

I really like Alyssa's idea of a GI bill equivalent to teachers. So does an retired teacher I know. He said schools won't be equal until...

[@kimberlyhollie]

Yes Alyssa!! 🎉

[@enigma4649]

Yes it can. Shame, shame Jay-Z. You should know better considering you are from the hood. You're supposed to help your community; not make it worse for them.

[@majadipatrick5864]

Just because you are sending you kids to private school , doesn’t mean it’s the best choice for them. Public Schools should be more funded the military and the police departments. If we want to fix a lot of the issues we heave to start with education and infrastructure

[@SonicBoomC98]

Voucher programs are a bait and switch. Giving kids vouchers to go other schools does not mean they're going to get in the schools. A lot of the top schools are rigged. They keep their numbers looking good by only admitting kids who already match the level of the kids already going there. It's just like the Ivies in college. Of course, you're going to be highly ranked if you're highly selective. These rankings organizations sometimes give you more points for having higher requirements. All private schools are not the same. There are some private schools that people look at as one step away from a public school. The rich are already taking up these vouchers, which essentially amounts to a tax break for them, and some of these schools raise their tuition to make it harder for just anyone to attend. I'm willing to bet anyone that's ever worked for a community college, in college admissions, or in any capacity dealing with kids getting started in college; they will tell you that you can't really tell with a lot of students if they went to private or public school except the ones that are drastically behind. Cities across this country have been closing public schools over the past 10-15 years. All kind of funding had been cut. What did you really think was going to happen if you crammed more students into fewer schools with less resources? I know people who've gone to private school where they had to pay for everything. Their parents have to pay for their lunch on top of tuition. Some private schools have closed since the Bush era as well. Also, going to a private school is not going to stop school shootings unless you're school is like a fortress or living inside the walls of a Kingdom

[@batgurrl]

If you have enough money to pay a pricey private school, Sunny, you should know they don’t need vouchers

[@marshatolbert154]

That's part of her point.

[@srebaayao9616]

Meanwhilenism: Sunny's children are all in private schools. Hahaha.

[@lorileehamel9695]

So many people haven’t dealt with the voucher system-if you have dealt with it, if you are in education, if you know how the state-level system of education; YOU KNOW that vouchers are damaging.

[@ericacole7102]

In Texas our government has been pulling funds away from schools and teachers pay.The classrooms are overstuffed and under staffed. This has been a plan for decades. The kids with learning disabilities or non Christians can be kicked out of private school schools. It sounds great but what if a family can’t get a full scholarship , Low wage working parents have to drive the kids with several kids don’t have access to a car or cant get off from work. What about kids all over the city that cant carpool or go to birthday parties or walk home? Where are we going to get the money to fund these for profit private schools? Thats right, our governments. Will our parents with exclusive private schools and huge tuition allow their children to mingle with the common folks? There are a lot of questions that need to be answered.

[@HelloToYours]

So disappointed in JayZ but not surprised

[@fletcherchambliss1590]

In Alabama we have a public trust that you can put state income tax into. There is a cap on the fund. It’s not taking money from the earmarked education fund but it can be used for poor families’ children who are in failing schools. It’s not a voucher. It is regulated in regards to who gets it. And why. I taught at a school that existed solely to educate those in these failing schools. It’s a non profit that benefits from this fund. But it’s a case by case situation. We are failing our children. And public school teachers are stretched so thin. Yay for Alyssa about a teacher GI bill. If only.

[@mickey4346]

Anna calling out Sunny’s hypocrisy is gold (her kids go to private schools and she conveniently left that out)

[@maskgirlz9248]

No, what’s best is let the parents decide what schools their kids go to. I had a child attend private school in Indiana and he is thriving at a prestigious college as well. FYI… he is a black male student with a 4.0 gpa, but I am also the reason he was successful in school!

[@ImperfectMark]

Alyssa, I have seen vouchers in place working with Florida schools which turned me 1,000% around - I don’t support them

[@The_king567]

Nah we should definitely privatize public schools already there has been no benefit to have public education this shouldn’t have to be said why should I have to pay for these terrible kids and teachers I don’t like or respect with my taxes it’s ridiculous.

[@GeorgieGirl1028]

As the daughter of a teacher & with many friends in education Sunny & Sara are 100% correct.

[@The_king567]

We need to abolish the department of education it literally hasn’t done anything good we need to send it back to the states

[@williambanks2928]

#Wisdom of the Old & Young peoples Energy#

[@halfpine9952]

Short answer, yes.

[@dennismorris7573]

Parents should understand, if they want to send their children to private school, that's fine, but they must pay for it, of course.

[@camy3018]

Ain't this what they addressed somewhat in Abbott Elementary? Fix the dang public schools and cut the voucher programs. Ana missed the mark with her statement. The problem is not all poor kids will get the voucher.

[@sdmac1339]

My kuds went to a charter school and a Catholic HS. Catholic school teachers are severely inderpaid and masters degrees are not always reqired. Charter schiols spend 40% of their budget on Adminstrative fees. That is a managing gropu that provides oversight.

[@pjballa91]

I feel like theres never enough time for anyone to make a full point. Wish we could have longer segments or more succinct points 🤷

[@anitrahall8417]

My biggest competition to student learning in high school, smart phones. Unplug these kids and learning will improve. Also, public schools don't have the luxury of smaller class sizes.

[@kholekilemotloi]

Sarah really is really sound and smart.

[@emilianoadams9499]

The voucher system won’t work until it is policy that prevents the private schools from increasing their rates once vouchers hit their state. The private schools have been increasing rates to keep poor voucher holders out

[@erauprcwa]

Teachers need to be paid more, schools SHOULD NOT be funded based off of property value of the given area they are in. The problems with public schools is that, funding. It's a self fulfilling prophecy of these politicians that believe in "school choice" and vouchers. Defund schools, provide vouchers... By defunding the school, the quality goes down, when the quality goes down so does the output of students with good educational success. Stop underfunding schools and provide equal funding to provide a valued education in ALL schools. Private school doesn't mean "better".

[@teliciamoore6316]

I've been working with school boards and administration for over 20 years, Sunny is absolutely right, the best countries and most educated per capita don't have private or charter schools because they make all of them go to public school and all the funding and resources are funneled into one location that is the only way for all kids to do better, we are one country, not caring about the next kid doesn't mean you have done best by your child because murders are usually committed by the kids forgotten in our society 😢

[@Salsero12]

I'm sorry why should the public care about private schools? No

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. Alyssa is so unrealistic. Someone could promise to be a teacher for free tuition, and then just quit after a year.

[@N10-h3b]

Most programs like this require a commitment of 5+ years or they have to pay it back.

[@signalfire15]

Why don’t they just model the public school system off of the NYC public school system where students have to apply to high schools and earn a spot in the school of their choice based on hard work and merit???

[@Nikki-ks6wi]

Not true in GA Kemp signed vouchers for title one schools attendance

[@blackknight597]

Education is the great equalizer. Definitely backing up voucher schools here. All parents of all income levels should be able to put their children's education first. Perfect example, The Success Academy (voucher schools) in Harlem, NYC did superior in exams compared to any school district in the entire state of NY. The majority backgrounds of those children are Black and Hispanic. Don't deny this! American school children are way behind international standards of other industrialized nations. "Education based on outcomes" is a new phrase that sounds appealing but pulls away from base education and becomes more about psychological education within many public schools. We see many examples of this as of recent on divisive topics even amongst concerned parents and PTA groups throughout the country. Thinking is taking a backseat to indoctrination. Any adverse reaction by parents (sometimes students themselves) are censured by education boards. Academics have taken a back seat. This is most apparent in underperforming public schools. Giving the parents the ability to choose for vouchers gives the ability to put them in strong academic environments. In NYC (where The View is filmed) there are over hundreds of thousands of students who have been finding academic success and tens of thousands waiting for admission. This is a moral outrage to suggest otherwise and hypocritical to suggest limiting parental choice for children to have their best shot at both academic success and future job opportunities. Shame to think otherwise!

[@Lily-fu4vm]

As a former/retired teacher, I believe in school choice. But people need to realize, the vast majority of students will continue to be enrolled in the public school system. The system needs to be fixed, but not by governmental agencies/ those who claim to be experts/forcing unrealistic standards on our kids that don't make developmental sense/set up students and their teachers to fail. Let's get rid of the Dept. of Ed!

[@ttttyyyty911]

The US does not have national curriculum or set of standards, those are decided on the state level.

[@ahamccombs3850]

Maybe they need to have the actual parent on who had a movie made on her true life story. Watch Miss Virginia. She was and is a hero.

[@uchechiuwanaka]

I love Whoopi's African Ankara Attire and styling..

[@edwinrivera4735]

Voucher idea looks great on paper. However those vouchers will eventually not cover the tuition and parents will be left pay the balance, school "co-pays". We all know the greed from for profit entities and we all know tuition will skyrocket. Then Republicans will tell us, if you can't afford the "co-pay" then home school your kids. "An education is not a right, " they will tell us.

[@luc9388]

Thank you Sara. She is on point for once!

[@ubulive]

How about paying the k-12 students 300$ a semester to learn This would cut out-of-pocket expenses for parents, teachers, its called "pay attention" for a reason students' grades would improve & attendance by valuing the student

[@spacetoast2491]

Could vouchers hurt public schools? Hmmm…..I don’t know. Does walking on broken glass hurt the bottom of feet?

[@sharoncarrington1474]

School shootings happen in private schools too! Devoss's poor record in Michigan speaks for itself - ask us. All the private schools she supported in Detroit are closed, many only lasted a year. But she got her money.

[@tracythornton1612]

I’m for every single child to get the best education

[@kevinargueta5162]

There is no fixing public school. There’s a teacher shortage because parents don’t parent their kids. That’s why.

[@thumpr1]

Public schools are the way to go, but maybe for some of these we have to look at how much money is put in to just the sports programs... When I was in High School we were threatened with loosing our Music program and we had no new instruments for those who couldn't afford to actually buy their own (YES, most of the music students had to BUY their own instruments) - yet the football team was going to get new jerseys every year!!! Our priorities are wrong in some of the schools.. Performance can also come down to are the teachers having to spend more time disciplining spoiled rotten kids rather then teaching? Maybe parents need to start getting their kids into shape so they can actually be taught....

[@khammerly]

Anna actually makes sense

[@dianacalzadias4334]

Fund all equal and certainly our teachers. Only money could fund the wealthy family and don't forget the tax breaks.

[@LittleHandsBaking]

Ask poor and developing countries, where kids are hungry and perform better on average compared to American kids! They can read in two languages, and American kids can't even read on grade level in their own language. As an immigrant who knows 3 languages, I had to teach my daughter reading, because they tell them at school to guess reading!! Absolutely ridiculous and insane. I started studying English when I was 14, and I never had a teacher tell me to look at the picture and guess the word, even in my own language! What happened to the great American education from 15 years ago?

[@Mr.BoundsReads]

I would like to hear Joy’s opinion on the matter. Too often these conversations happen without teacher voice.

[@chrisglover9700]

Holy crap.... first time I have agreed with Ana

[@chidebrown4420]

They should have begun conversation saying, raise your hands if your kids attended private schools. Hippocrates beginning with Sunny

[@jessebriee3918]

Why doesn't Jay-Z pay for the underfunded schools first.

[@LindaGuy-yg6ju]

So if they make private schools mandatory what happens when parents can't afford to send a child to one. This is for the rich not the average working person working at minimum wage.

[@blancazambrano734]

Voucher program will greatly affect special education students

[@gw2315]

We need to have a balance I’m sorry Florida public schools are horrible and it don’t matter how much money you throw at it won’t help. It’s about culture. Texas public schools are the best! Can’t even compare to Florida.

[@user-no8xd6gj6y]

As someone who doesn’t have kids I just wanna say.. invest in AI teachers .. they will have the best education from a non biased teacher and that teacher will never be sick or on leave in the long run we will save tons and tons of billions 😅

[@Markstubation01]

Finland has the best education system and they’ve banned all private schools.

[@kddixson4216]

There is always school choice for rich kids like Sunny’s kids… she lives in a neighborhood where there are expensive houses and good schools… let their be school choice

[@melliott3681]

Is anyone else so, so very tired of this conversation? We've been having this same conversation about public schools since before 2001 which is when No Child Left Behind was put in place. Yet, here we are. Same song, second verse. 😑😑😑😑

[@NoreenHennig]

Recycle text books! No way are new books needed every year. It’s a scam

[@staciesstuff2]

Vouchers DO NOT cover the entire cost of private school so the kids that need it the most WONT BENEFIT

[@Martyisruling]

This show will only allow talk and discussion that fits ONE narrative. Not the truth, not facts, A NARRATIVE. They won't allow another view point to be discussed, they will interrupt and insult anything alternative to their current view.

[@etdavis2776]

Agree Alyssa

[@NeilRamsay-q4z]

Tax churches, put the money into the public system. Zero public money for private schools. If the rich want school the rich can pay for them.

[@andrewp4805]

voucher programs are just another funneling of public funds (a GREAT cash flow for business) to private institutions. It is always disguised as ‘oh lets give those most desperate, access to the best’ but it never works that way. If you want those most in need to have the best- elevate public schools, defend teachers, and let them teach. Stop SOLs etc. Also the voucher will never keep up with the full cost. And you think a private institution that isnt bound by 1st AMD, ADA etc isnt going to raise their prices to allot for the funds? Youll either have public schools further in decline, with those most in need you say you want to help stuck, OR they will be taking out debt before high school. We have already seen the consequences of too much public money available to private education, we dont need to run the test again for k-12

[@jamekasmith3404]

They are playing in our faces

[@seanbean002]

How about you stop using real estate taxes to fund public schools? Or it all goes into a big fund and is distributed equally amongst the state? If wealthy zip codes don't help to bring up the non wealthy zip codes, the gap will never close.

[@Hazel64348]

Jeppers what is the problem with taking care and helping

[@CG_VON]

I would say that government should assist school boards make their schools better or equal to private schools.

[@CG_VON]

This is very questionable without increasing spending on education. This will be impactful to public schools and oversight is limited with private schools.

[@CG_VON]

The purposal will or should require a increase in state's annual budget for education spending on both types of schools. The purposal could result to schools being closed or limited abilities which will have negative impact on challenging areas. The fact that the schools are private, it means that state oversight is limited and they will take money from public schools for former public school student or students. This could make public schools annual costs lesser because decrease in students. However public schools have issues with funding and teachers and this is the main reason for public school failures. Private schools will also have limited funds and abilities because they were getting their funds from parents of students and other sources. Furthermore private schools could also be space limited, teacher shortage, as well as transporting students, and other services.

[@signalfire15]

They should have started this video by explaining what the voucher system is… I have no clue what they are talking about.

[@lilymiranda4381]

Alyssa is so ignorant about this topic. I get where Ana is coming from but you can also admit the voucher program is trash and still acknowledge you and your whole family went to private school.

[@badass1632]

I’m somewhere between Alyssa and Sara 🎯

[@amt-vi1uo]

You don’t like where your tax dollars are going? First time??

[@marmac7619]

I agree with Alyssa about the Federal Gov funding Teachers EDU! but i hate the idea of "Vouchers!" Hey, what if more parents decided to just do HOME SHOOLING! PS: I would hope however, that this "GI BILL" wouldn't be similar to the one after WW2 - that totally left BLACKS out in the Streets!!

[@charellwilliams799]

Sunny needs to just stop .She is wo hypocritical, her kids went to private schools...

[@debbieoneal3744]

Give me the choice

[@frenchiesaparis5741]

Is Jay Z doing this though to deflect from Diddy 🤔

[@Jungshook0123]

I respect all of the ladies on the panel bringing stats and sharing their experiences, but I have to agree with Sara and Whoopi. Instead of trying to improve an already established education system, rich people want us to fund a new, de-regulated system with limited access? Big nope. We need to fund public schools people!! And pay teachers more!!

[@peterporkeresq.2817]

Really? Sunny brought stats, facts and citations, but the credit goes to Whoopi saying a lot without saying anything of substance?

[@lorrie2878]

You mean so teachers can BUY A HOME? Not use their income on pencils and markers and snacks for the kids? You must be an evil socialist 🥰! They are our children! Educate them, teach them arts and music and math and science and health and government and all...

[@johnwebb2442]

Thank you.

[@The_king567]

Then you fund it with your own money

[@200555280]

@@The_king567It’s not adding more tax on you. It’s keeping the funds for public school for these school.

[@williambanks2928]

#Wisdom of the Old & Young & Young peoples Energy#

[@dennisg4666]

Private elementary schools range from $20K-40K. A voucher won't cover the entire cost. How will people come up with the difference? Couldn't agree with Sunny and Whoopi more, the voucher program is a way to dismantle public schools. Part of the problem is the Federal Govt mandates on special education, but they don't completely fund the mandates.

[@SorenHights]

I just commented the same thing the catch with the voucher program is it possibly wont cover the entire tuition leaving you on the hook for any other bills/expenses. It really doesn't work for the middle class. Its another scheme for corporations to suck Americans dry of their money. I wouldn't be surprised that they are actively trying to sabotage the public school system to get these voucher programs into the front and center. That way they can claim "look the public school system doesn't work"

[@ValLeeWeblog]

Due to government education, 50% of graduates are illiterate. "Half the children in this country, when they graduate, are unable read their diplomas." Legislators are all about elitist rule, keeping the masses uneducated. Only those who employ public schools should finance them. Children cannot function in the basics. It is all about agendas, not learning, to make the populous adhere to insane and deadly agendas to maintain elitists rule and control. The Bible was once the standard and the main book taught in all schools and was respected. Also, Noah Webster's "Blue Back Speller" was part of the curriculum and is still sold on Amazon. It taught upright morals to children as well as the Bible. "The great American educator Noah Webster first published A Grammatical Institute of the English Language, otherwise known as the Blue Back Speller, in 1783. His goal was to provide a uniquely American, Christ-centered approach to training children. "Little did he know that this remarkable gem would become the staple for parents and educators for more than a century and would help to build the most literate nation in the history of the West." Many of the Founding Fathers employed this book to home school their children, including Benjamin Franklin who taught his granddaughter to read, spell, and pronounce words using Old Blue Back.” What progressives are teaching in public schools: "My daughter just started second grade @MetroSchools. I will be pulling her out immediately. Her first “English” lesson of the year is teaching her that white people are bad, mean & racist against African-Americans & Mexicans. My daughter, 7, is not a racist nor is her family.” Jesus Christ, the thrill of hope, for a sick, hurting, and weary world-Romans 10:9-10 from the Bible: “That if you confess with your mouth the LORD Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart man believes to righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made to salvation.”

[@carlosheredia443]

Anything from taxes SHOULD NEVER support private anything. The whole point of private sector is paying for it themselves via direct payments.

[@audreycampbell9483]

Well said

[@johnwebb2442]

Exactly.

[@jusletursoulglobaby]

yeaaa seems every time I see public private partnerships it ends in disaster. idk why people havent caught on yet

[@plieu625]

It seems like they want these vouchers to go towards religious schools which is a no. If that happens, religious institutions need to be taxed.

[@TheJordanbrown2]

E x a c t l y

[@rievans57]

Privatization is a way to make money not improve education.

[@zvmZvm0102]

So parents who can afford private prefer to just throw away money? Doesn't make sense bro. Public schools are trash as are public school teachers.

[@Rob-wv7wp]

Public schools are not managed correctly, its not a money thing its a Teacher Union corruption thing

[@6ixConfessions]

Exactly. It's the perfect storm to guarantee than the majority of children won't have access to a decent education.

[@The_king567]

Privatization is always better private schools are always better

[@6ixConfessions]

@@The_king567 If you're serious and not just trolling; quite possibly but, only for those who can afford it. And, if you had a private education, I'd suggest asking for your money back. Your complete lack of punctuation in such a tiny sentence speaks volumes. It's also a good argument for firm regulation of private schools. You're welcome.😁

[@agr8tyme]

The children who fall behind are not accepted into those voucher schools.

[@atlienfasho]

And if they squeak in, they are quickly sent back to public school. This is part of what makes public school look like they underperform. All of the "good kids" who will get good grades no matter where they are educated, are siphoned from the public schools. How many people were helped by the "smart kids" in class? How many people were grouped with a student because the teacher wanted to put two or three kids together so they could share their knowledge and experience and teach each other? It is hard to do that in a classroom anymore when almost no one can read, and few have any confidence in their educational abilities.

[@RJ_Games0]

Thank you for pointing this out, this is part of fixing the system. If students who aren’t just naturally good at academics fall behind, there really isn’t support for them. It’s not about “oh just pass them it doesn’t matter” , it’s about giving quality education to ALL students. This actually hits close to home because I was a struggling student my entire life. Almost never got As and Bs on anything. Partly was my fault yes but, it was also the fact that the “support” I tried to get didn’t really help me. People need to realize that a student who fails all the time doesn’t mean they are broken, something else could be the reason if schools took the time to tailor the education for that student instead of shoving them in a “special” class, which is degrading, humiliating and also DOESN’T HELP. I really need people to understand that the answer is not private schools, the answer is to put more money into giving quality education to ALL students regardless of income and regardless of how they learn.

[@kaseysteffek1767]

I love that GI Bill for teachers idea that Alyssa mentioned.

[@kheldaryt]

ya, throw more money at the current failing model. sorry it's not a terrible idea but teacher pay is not a core problem of public education... there's plenty of money but it's just poorly allocated. public ed needs a major reform but no one is interested for a variety of reasons. it's going to fall further and further behind for a while.

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. It makes no sense. Someone could just get free tuition, and then quit or get fired from their teacher job.