Coulthart in Egypt: ‘UnchartedX’ details impossible Egyptian creations | Reality Check

[@NewsNation]

#Sponor Link: Watch- Dr. Gundry's Heart Surgeon Begs Americans: “Stop Doing This To Your Blueberries" Find Out here>> TheHealthyFat.com/Ross

[@AthenaNKnight]

BEN!

[@catman8965]

Want to reality check me on Ben's core 7 study?

[@Namalama268]

He's a grifter

[@willx6394]

Interview Jeremy Griffith about the human condition being solved by science.

[@jacksilver7701]

@@catman8965try scientists against myths

[@hookedoutdoors1236]

Ross, why do you have to be so damn good at this? You are the main reason I watch NewsNation. I hope you are getting a big piece of the pie, because you are an awesome draw.

[@Perozes-gh4lx]

He's the only reason that 90% of us watch, if he leaves, we leave

[@mistletoe4961]

Ross just can't help it. His talent, skills, and persona are beyond his control. Wasn't this first episode extraordinary?!

[@Chudsic]

Yeah idk what newsnation was doing before and id never heard of them before Ross

[@timw4432]

He is ex 60 minutes that’s why

[@MojoMan007]

¿What's NewsNation?

[@TheBlackClockOfTime]

I could listen to Ross and Ben talk about this for days on end.

[@GertrudAumann]

Yes, so I did 👍

[@lyyliesther984]

Exactly they are both very interesting to listen too and a fascinating topic !!

[@FreakulsMagnus]

Uzumaki

[@ketchupcommander]

bullshit always goes down easier than inconvenient truths eh?

[@aic5073]

Your mind will turn to mush

[@tonygunk1886]

Finally Ben! happy to see you and your team getting the recognition you deserve!!

[@Sabbath-666]

Came here to say just that!

[@GWA_UK]

Agreed

[@MyceliumMuse]

Totally 💯

[@Elstuderino]

I think he is due a solo Rogan episode

[@evieasterwynauthor]

Ben's research and videos into all these ancient objects that have no explanation even in modern times, has fascinated me for years. I love his work and am so glad you had him on to chat about all that he's seen and done. Thanks for another great interview, Ross!

[@anthonycruz13]

I think Ben is one the best in the world!! His delivery is so good anyone can understand what he's talking about. Always bring the evidence. The world needs to listen to everything he talks about. Keep up the great work and keep us informed!!!

[@Rubin_Schmidt]

METHODICAL DECEPTION - Rebekah Roth 2nd Interview. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmeYh6ikp7RperM&ab_channel=lovethyneighborasthyself !!!

[@Bleak_13]

Aussie pride is strong with this one . Two of my favourite humans on one show . They are doing our country a great service.

[@SuperBroncosguy]

Australia. Where the devil keeps his pets. Lol.

[@buckaroodeluxe]

TalkinAbeet?

[@petestronach4949]

true mate..

[@petestronach4949]

@@buckaroodeluxe yeahnah

[@petestronach4949]

@@SuperBroncosguy pssst😆😆😆

[@simonjoyal2008]

I'm so happy to see these two gents working together! Two of my favourites!

[@rufioswitch2132]

Do the obvious distortion of facts not bother you?

[@newworld6474]

@@rufioswitch2132 these guys cut granite with copper tools too kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5a2Zp-oot53bZY

[@tekarock]

I m sorry but can I gloat how proud I m of these Australian 🇦🇺 brothers? 👏🏻👏🏻

[@danielwitham1791]

Ben lives in the US and has lived outside Aus for years before that. I'm still proud of him though.

[@lapislazuli7876]

@@danielwitham1791anyone who makes it in their career has to live outside Australia. It goes with the territory of "making it." Australia has always been a backwater and still is. We are always a touch behind everyone else in so many ways. We are just too far away from the centre of action.

[@garyhillman4993]

He s still an Aussie

[@elendilnz]

Part Kiwis?

[@martinmurphy9679]

Ross is a Brit. He spent his childhood in Yorkshire and Dumfries then moved from the UK to New Zealand, then on to Australia.

[@naomiseraphina9718]

It's fantastic to see Ben getting some of the credit he deserves for all of his hard work, his diligent research, and his courage to bring forth new (and weirdly unpopular) ideas. You're brilliant, Ben! I've been a fan of your work for years, and I am certain that you are absolutely onto something huge. I cannot help suspecting that as we rediscover the origin of our civilization we will learn something vital about the nature of reality itself. I think this is an exciting time to be alive. Many thanks, and deepest respect to you both, Ross and Ben. --N

[@angelawallismoore2283]

Fascinating! I'm always simultaneously amused and frustrated by the gatekeeping in all disciplines. Thank goodness for iconoclasts like Ross and Ben!

[@marcgoldstein2957]

MORE!!! Incredible to see what was considered fringe views get so much traction outside of mainstream media. Keep up the great work!

[@MikeJones-wp2mw]

This is the best interview I've seen you do. Ben is brilliant, I wish more people were helping him so we could get some answers faster. Knowing that there are people out there covering this stuff up instead is frustrating.

[@GroberWeisenstein]

Answers ?

[@MikeJones-wp2mw]

@@GroberWeisenstein The version of history we learn in school is not true. We want to know about the civilizations that came before ours. The ones pre ice age. There is a reason the Egyptians regressed technologically moving forward in time, the opposite of what you'd expect. What is the truth?

[@GroberWeisenstein]

@MikeJones-wp2mw where's your evidence to refute?

[@MikeJones-wp2mw]

@@GroberWeisenstein You have to be a bot.

[@GroberWeisenstein]

@@MikeJones-wp2mw so no evidence ? Thought so.

[@budrobinson7965]

The only journalist i trust at this point.

[@CJArnold-hq3ey]

Come in Spinner

[@GertrudAumann]

I think the same! Ross is the greatest journalist in this time! Greatings from Germany to all of you 👍

[@CJArnold-hq3ey]

@@GertrudAumann I'm from Australia where Rosco Resides another come in Spinner Johnny Come Lately Spun Around Picture Wheel .👎

[@jeffmccloud905]

That's sad.

[@yonisapir6270]

The only journalist I trust at this point is Steven Greenstreet. You know why? Because in order to get to the bottom of this UFO mystery, you need a journalist who is truly skeptical, someone who DOES NOT just blindly believe claims made by UFO enthusiasts, and begins from a position of extreme doubt and skepticism. Why? Because if a journalist like that ever makes an extraordinary claim about the UFO phenomenon, you'll know it went through a filter of actual research, debunking and skepticism, and that he's not just parroting some rumor he heard from someone who doesn't think that providing evidence is THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR in all of this. You have to ask yourself the following question: What do you care about more, hearing your opinions get validated but never seeing a shred of evidence, or pursuing THE TRUTH -- even if it means that the truth is that none of this NHI stuff is real? Can you handle that? Can you handle the truth? Most people in the UFO community can't. They want to hear people say it's real, even without evidence. They want validation of their opinions and beliefs. It's human nature. The problem though, is that if people like Ross Coulthart, Jeremy Corbell, Luis Elizondo and David Grusch validate your beliefs about aliens -- but never provide evidence because there is no evidence to provide and their beliefs are based on rumors -- you're just wasting decades of your life going down endless rabbit holes that lead to nowhere. You can spend the next 50 years following people like this because they tell you what you want to hear, but you'll never see aliens/NHI at the end of your journey, because they don't exist. Or you can pursue the truth and start demanding the evidence FIRST. Which means that when someone like Grusch, Elizondo or Coulthart make a claim, like knowing "we are not alone, and I say that with 100% confidence", your default reaction should be to NOT trust them UNTIL they provide EXTRAORDINARY evidence for this claim. And no, witness testimony is not extraordinary evidence. In non-extraordinary cases, like a custody hearing or a murder trial, then yeah, witness testimony is good enough. But not when it comes to extraordinary issues like the UFO phenomenon. What most people in the UFO community refuse to accept, to their own detriment, is that anything less than extraordinary evidence (i.e. physical evidence that is tested and confirmed to be authentic and not man made or naturally occurring on planet earth) is WORTHLESS. Witness testimony, even from pilots, is WORTHLESS. Anomalous radar data is interesting but ultimately WORTHLESS because it doesn't PROVE that what you're looking at has a non-prosaic explanation, it just means it anomalous. Mass sightings are WORTHLESS - especially when children are involved (Ariel school incident). Claims about remote viewing abilities are WORTHLESS until they are demonstrated live, in a controlled environment, with consistent 100% accuracy. Demand nothing less from the people who make extraordinary claims, and don't give any second chances to people who make these claims then give excuses about why they can't provide the evidence for them.

[@Jeff_Raids]

I could listen to Ross read adds all day. In fact, I wish I could hear him in my head narrating my life in real time 😂

[@loudawg907]

Thanks for having Ben on. Keep fighting the good fight and as always great reporting Ross.

[@dillongarner1]

Ben is an amazing researcher. Anyone who’s interested in ancient Egypt should absolutely follow his channel Uncharted X

[@Worldsgonebonkers]

I started being interested in ancient Egypt at the age of 7 in 1963, when I spotted a book on the subject in our local library. 💙

[@TheGreatest1974]

He’s scamming the whole lot of you.

[@brianmihlfeith7135]

@@TheGreatest1974care to show us how? Just share a statement or action from him that you find to be a “scam?” Also - Ben is independently wealthy and he does this because he loves it, not for the money. He charges ZERO dollars to anyone. You can watch everything he’s done for FREE. How is that a scam? He gained his wealth in IT and holds a number of very successful patents. He’s also admitted when he’s got things wrong and is willing to change his opinion on things when the evidence dictates it, unlike modern archaeology.

[@TheGreatest1974]

I am not going to have back and forth with a BVK acolyte.

[@rufioswitch2132]

@@brianmihlfeith7135 Here you go: 1. Arachaeology relies on actual evidence - eg buildings, pottery, tools, with carbon dating. "we've been around for 500,000 years so there was probably a complex society that has been lost" is not evidence. 2. Gobekli Tepe was uncovered by "mainstream" archaeologists. It's been excavated and shared by "mainstream" for 30 years. All the narrative of Gobekli has been formed by the mainstream, not by alt historians. 3. The definiton of civilization is "any complex society characterized by the development of the state, social stratification, urbanization, and symbolic systems of communication beyond signed or spoken languages (namely, writing systems and graphic arts)". At Gobekli Tepe there is no evidence of state planning, social stratification, urbanization, writing. They didn't even live there full time. It's not a civilization by the way that they are generally classified, and the definiton of civilizaiton was not changed to fit the narrative. Stone Henge was also a megalithic site built by nomadic hunter gatherers thousands of years ago: it's not evidence of a civilzation in Britain at that time. 4. Clovis First "doctrine" was dropped in early 2010s by the mainstread, because of... evidence... uncovered by .. mainstream archaeology. Ben makes it sound like the alt historians forced through this change lol. 5. The human timeline change back to 800,000 years ago was uncovered by... evidence... from the mainstream. The mainstream changes it's opinions all the time. It just needs evidence. If there was one single piece of evidence of a machine or a ship dating back 10,000+ years ago, then the mainstream would change its opinion. Until there is actual evidence, they will not. 6. Because we can't understand how 10,000 people could have moved huge boulders, that doesn't mean they did not. There is video evidence of a 300 ton monolith being moved by 50 humans down a 2500ft hill from the quarry on wooden sleds in the 1930s. 7. It's not the oldest stuff that is the most massive, most difficult etc. Mastaba burial tombs were built for 400 years before the Great Pyramid, which was built in the 3rd dynasty around 2600 BCE. (Eg Mastaba S3503 is 400 years before, in the First Dynasty, around 3000BC). So basically they took 400 years to learn how to build massive pyramids lol. Any attempts at building a bad pyramid before the three Giza pyramids that were not good, would likely either have fallen down naturally or been pulled down and their stone blocks been re-used for later pyramids. In London, the best buildings survive 500-1000+ years. There are no poor quality 1000 year old buildings left in London, because of course they fall down or get replaced over time. This doesn't mean that no low quality buildings were built 1000 years ago in London hahah. 8. Copper tube drills can "cut" into granite - they use a quartz or corundum grinding powder that is the same or higher on the mohs scale than the granite they are grinding into. Again there is video evidence of this being done in current times which Ben has been pointed to thousands of times, but he ignores and deletes comments on his page that point his viewers to those experiments. 9. Flint chisels can cut into granite. Mohs is a measure of grinding strength, not toughness. Again there are videos of modern day sculptors using flint to chisel granite into lovely detailed carvings.

[@mikelee9886]

So awesome to see Ross interview Ben!!!! Ben is a great guy, who is doing great work communicating these ancient mysteries. Excellent interview!!!

[@liezelhaupt7172]

This has been the best explanation I have ever heard from anyone on the Egyptian pyramids' history. It all makes so much sense to me for the first time.

[@krzykris]

He basically explained what we don't know.

[@rufioswitch2132]

There's so much more to learn. The reality is just as interesting, if not more, as the fantasies talked about on this video 🤣

[@learning2curve995]

@@rufioswitch2132 you lost me there, how can these 'Vases' be fantasies? They are real and on display as well. Sitting along side the 'actual' pottery of the time. What is the reality please? I am willing to listen.

[@SpokoR3]

1) If you dig a little deeper into how he got those vases, there's no reason to believe they're from that era that he claims them to be. There's no way to date them accurately. 2) precision is not a measure of advancement of a civilization. It's a testament to the craftsmanship. There have been countless modern day humans who have made very precise and polished ornaments, vases and coffin covers with primitive technology described in hieroglyphics. Plenty of evidences about that

[@rufioswitch2132]

@@learning2curve995 the fantasy is: 1. no evidence of machines or advanced civilisation from before 5000 years ago. 2. Grinding granite down with copper tube drills has been proven to work with modern day tests using the basic tools - it's the hard quartz or corundum powder that does the grinding 3. the cut marks on the granite cores and not perfect spiral continuous lines - the petrie museum itself took high resolution images which shows they are from a hand tool 4. the biggest buildings did NOT come first - there was 400 years of other buildings in Egypt before the great pyramid. 5. Gobekli tepe was expored by the "mainstream" and 100% of the data that has come out about it was released by the mainstream - no cover-up - half a million people visit it every year 6. Clovis first was dropped 15 years ago after more *evidence* was found (archaeologists require actual evidence not "I believe....") 7. Flint chisels DO chip granite so can be used to carve them - 8. The Romans moved t250 to 400 ton obelisks from Egypt to Rome using wooden boats, ropes and man power. It's 100% possible for humans to move and lift enormous blocks. Lifting 25 to 70 ton blocks using basic wood machines with ropes is not only possible, we have the evidence as the Egyptians did it to build the pyramid.

[@Theotherlostprimarch]

Ben is a legend. I’m so happy this conversation is happening!

[@Robwolstenholme]

Thank you Ben this is very insightful. I visited the Serapeum a couple of months ago and your documentaries on this site were extremely informative.

[@SmallWonda]

Good to see Ben reaching an ever-wider audience. There's just so many fascinating things about our world which are staring us in the face, but are still deep mysteries - will be exciting times when academia brings in new perspectives on old paradigms. Thanks Ross! Have to be Randal next!

[@dodomarly]

Wow Ross , as a Egyptian i personally welcome you here all over the country which i couldn’t imagine how magnificent it would be tell I was there by myself (Pyramids of Giza, Luxor temples which was very bizarre one of them called temple of millennium or million years, king’s valley where the chisels marks blown my mind away. I’m kinda obsessed going there very often especially the Great Pyramid since I was a kid which hit me with the most peaceful feeling ever like washing my soul and my mind . Wish you a prosperous trip enjoy every single moment there.❤❤

[@BillHilly-i3y]

Thank you Ross, for bringing this man on your show, Mr Van Kerkwyki's competency is beyond any egyptologist I know about. And possibly the most highly intelligent one our discipline has hosted since the days of open inquiry in Egypt. You will notice his proficiency at cutting through the dated and sometimes clumsy doctrinal predisposition which many authority sanctioned egyptologists appear to be concerned with 'protecting' until such time as they can catch up scientifically on what Ben and others like him have been providing excellent evidences of, many evidences. Way to go Ben! Because of you, I now know that we are just beginning finally to learn of the very existence of the story of our own ancient heritage. Keep up the fine journalism Ross! I'll be watching for more.

[@rufioswitch2132]

Wow this is extremely sycophantic. Archaeologists are really not concerned with protecting anything. They require actual evidence that’s the thing. Ben requires no actual evidence, just things that “don’t make sense” therefore there must be a 20,000 year old civilisation that had computers and machines and levitation powers but left no evidence 😂 He spends the first 10 minutes talking about human history length, and basically saying ‘because we’ve been around for ages, it makes sense to me we could have had some more advanced civilisation at some time in the past’, which is is relevant because without actual hard evidence appeal to logic is not evidence. Ben has spent 4 years saying tube core drills are impossible to do in granite with “copper chisels” because “copper can’t cut granite”, but Ben knows that it’s the hard abrasive powder that does the grinding not the copper and there have been experiments on KZbin with people using copper tube drills with quartz of corundum powder and perfectly replicating the “impossible” tube drills. So Ben also ignores and hides evidence which counters his fantasies, which of course he claims to hate in “mainstream” archaeologists doing “narrative control”, and yet he does it himself. His channel Deletes any comments that mention these experiments or the channels that do them - extreme narrative control from Ben! Ben relies on setting up a false narrative argument, stoking the culture war that the “mainstream” are holding back advancement when in fact the mainstream are the only ones actually doing the hard, time-consuming and costly digs and uncovering real evidence. Gobekli Tepe was uncovered by the so-called mainstream and has been excavated for 30 years and yet Ben claims they are holding back the evidence despite half a million visitors going there every year 😂 Ben also loves taking credit away from cultures like the dynastic Egyptians, mayans and incans and saying they couldn’t possibly have done X, Y and Z because he can’t imagine how it was done. Well, it was done, all the evidence points to those cultures doing the work, but Ben’s livelihood depends on setting up his fantasies and selling them to gullible sycophants with his culture war of “the mainstream are lying about history!”. Ironically he’s actually damaging the uncovering of history by discrediting real archaeology, since it requires lots of funding and years of work at dig sites to uncover things. He spent care about truth, he cares about Clickbait KZbin views from his false narrative culture wars. Have a nice day!

[@GroberWeisenstein]

Are you serious?

[@TankUni]

_beyond any egyptologist I know about_ Know a lot of 'egyptologists', do you? How about Egyptologists? Know many of them?

[@jasonward4457]

Thank you guys!! ❤

[@JayDee-iy5be]

I'm so glad to have found this channel - Ross is a fantastic presenter and host.

[@openminded6860]

My favourite man!!! Absolutely the best reporting! From one Aussie to another .... thanks Ross!!!!! ❤🇦🇺

[@BlockDefender]

Wow, it's awesome to see two of my favorite communicators collaborate like this. I love Ben from Uncharted X AND Ross.

[@cryptokev1759]

I'm all in for both Ross and Ben in Egypt, LFG!

[@thorncraft3235]

I’m very happy for Ben “ UnchartedX “ that he is finally getting the recognition he deserves for all the work he puts into investigating, documenting and the production of his videos, bringing this information to us all, spreading awareness of these incredible sites that clearly have artefacts from a very distant past, culture and people that we really know next to nothing about, his passion for this subject is his driving force, Thank you Ben. Great interview Ross, thank you.

[@przemog88]

What "work"? Lying about things is not work. When SGD Sacred Geometry Decoded started showing how wrong he is, Ben just blocked him. This is the best evidene how big of a scammer he is.

[@thorncraft3235]

@@przemog88Ben has not made any false claims, his videos are about the anomalies found at different locations around megalithic sites, anomalies that mainstream archaeologists have either no or poor explanations for, Ben has never claimed to know how or who made them just that engineers today have difficulty to replicate. Yet they have apparently been made using copper chisels and pounding stones, yet it’s physically impossible. Believe what you like mate but don’t be angry cos I believe different, YOU DO YOU.

[@przemog88]

@@thorncraft3235 And these "anomalies" are false claims. He just ignore the explanations for them, to peddle his bs. 'anomalies that mainstream archaeologists have either no or poor explanations for" Exactly. Ben make false claims that the perfectly valid explanations are "poor". "Ben has never claimed to know how or who made them just that engineers today have difficulty to replicate." What things engineers have difficulties to replicate today? "Yet they have apparently been made using copper chisels and pounding stones, yet it’s physically impossible." It's so impossible that channels like SGD Sacred Geometry Decoded and Scientists against myths already replicated some of them. You would know that, if Ben didn't block them. SGD is quite good example here, he constantly challenges Ben and his claims. What has Ben do to answer to his critique? Blocked him. What Ben is afraid of? "Believe what you like mate " I don't need to "believe" when I have evidence. "I believe different" - Yes you 'believe', because you don't know jack s. about anything. Bravo.

[@leghunter9201]

@@thorncraft3235 The guy is a grifter just like Graham Hancock.

[@thorncraft3235]

@@przemog88😂 what cos he’s not interested in having an argument 🤣 yes of course it does 🤭

[@frankwolf3860]

On those tube drills: what Ben does not say here, only tacitly hints at with his "spirals": the cutting heads used here cut down into these stones in a single pass, not going back over the same depth of cut again after making the first pass but continuing to excise material deeper and deeper...very much like a phonograph needle on a old vinyl record only passing along any particular part of the "grove" once as the record is being played. The vertical spacings between each grove are even, precise, and this shows just how much "force" it takes to continuously spiral-down such a cutting head...which (like Ben said) is beyond what "modern" stone cutting tools are capable of...wow! A scanning microscope examination of some of these cores might give better indications: possible micro-fragments of the cutting head itself; the microscopic impacts of cutting head against material might give evidence of the forces/mechanisms being used (fractures leading to grove ablation, or something "smoother" like a ultrasonic vibrations, etc.) Also it must be noted that the cutting was two sided: both the stone being cut and the core being cut-out have identical spiral groves! Much more can be said of all this, if it only was!

[@balcyvr6]

I'll start with I am not contradicting this, but I have a question. How do we know the cuts never went over the same spot twice? I can create an even spiral pattern in a stone core cut if I take my time with my grinder and it's spinning 12000+rpm. A machine can do that every time if that's how it's programmed. Obviously they had mechanical advantage, but if I put a lot of excess pressure on a stone cut, I remove the cutting ability and involve pressure instead, and the cores will break into pieces. Some of these ancient cores are intact, which leads me to believe we're missing something entirely, and it wasn't pressure dependent.

[@newworld6474]

these guys cut granite with copper tools too kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5a2Zp-oot53bZY

[@whateyecansee]

Laser machining?

[@newworld6474]

ultrasonic vibration cutting wouldn't leave grooves

[@marcus1259]

He telling lies! The truth is there and there proof that its not impossble to make these things by hand. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnSWi5J6d9N2ppo

[@VegasRen]

My 2 favorite Aussies together at last lol I could listen to Ross & Ben all day myself. I have spent many hours watching Ben. He is incredible at what he does. This is a fascinating topic & I agree with the evidence & data presented making the case. Awesome interview Ross tyvm!

[@rachellevalentine1215]

I hung on every moment of this! Will watch again..thanks Ross and Ben.

[@zacpeterson1966]

Been watching Ben for years. Couldn't have picked a better speaker for this topic. Plus it's awesome that my two nerd passions are converging in one video lol

[@kateS72]

My feeling exactly!

[@cecileroy557]

Yet again - beyond excited to find another extraordinary NewsNation with Ross - and today Ben!!

[@Speedfire94]

Thx you so much Ross and NN for this amazing episode!

[@QvodInferivs]

Ive been hanging out for this. Lets go the boys from down under 🇦🇺🔥

[@crankycrab7206]

The collaboration we’ve been waiting for!

[@Dragonx7100]

Thanks Richard, very clear and thoughtful analysis of the current situation,as always. The best that we have heard.

[@telepathtee50]

Yay for Graham Hancock 😊for inspiring you ❤thx for the podcast 😊

[@tammigissell2378]

❤Another proud Australian here! Love both your work - as Graham Hancock says - 'stuff keeps getting older'....so glad people are finally waking up and demanding and also considering decent scholarship and open media, well done fellas x

[@Dina_tankar_mina_ord]

It is fascinating how mainstream media has long dismissed controversial yet entirely valid questions as conspiracy theories, even though some of these questions raise relevant and well-founded doubts about what we have previously taken for granted. What concerns me most, though, is how these controversial issues are sometimes transformed from legitimate and important topics of discussion into simplified and misleading "popular truths" that infact are false. Lets keep digging and keep ask the much needed questions. :)

[@landonedwards7504]

Very True! However, the deception and obfuscation is not limited to media. It's more a trait of the powerbrokers in all fields. Ben van Kerwyck plainly stated that the realm of archaeology refuses to recognize - and, in fact, deliberately distorts facts concerning tool marks and many other valid points of discussion.

[@BillHilly-i3y]

@@Dina_tankar_mina_ord I'm with you.

[@driveboy317]

im not thats rubbish

[@RustamShah]

*Fascinating insights, Ross! It's amazing to think about how these remarkable artifacts, like intricately crafted vases and massive statues, showcase the extraordinary skills of ancient Egyptian artisans. It's also important to note that their achievements were deeply tied to a completely different socio-political and economic system compared to today. Back then, a collective mindset, centralized authority, and abundant labor resources made it possible to accomplish these marvels, which would be incredibly costly and challenging in our modern economy. Truly a testament to their unique civilization and priorities!*

[@krzykris]

A collective mindset? If by collective you mean worshipping your leader, then yes. It was no Garden of Eden.

[@tombrand236]

Ross - love the topics you cover and no nonsense, evidence based research

[@juliafox7904]

Absolutely wonderful discussion . Clearly the truth has been and is being suppressed about our human family and heritage and where we are from. Thank you both , keep going , 🙏 from England.

[@dorisarnold1200]

I so enjoyed this amazing show……I could literally listen for hours…thank you both so much!❤

[@hellovicki6779]

Been listening to Ben's work for several years, always fascinating. Wonderful to listen to Ben and Ross having a discussion. More please.

[@GertrudAumann]

👍👏👏👏

[@maryscott1122]

Hi Ross and Ben. Congrats on putting this documentary together, absolutely incredible. I am in awe listening to you both. You are both so full of knowledge and make it so easy to understand the facts. Thank you. 🇦🇺

[@Adam-gy3tw]

Flint Dibble, the pseudo-engineer, is trying to rip his Indiana Jones replica hat as he watches this. 😂

[@petestronach4949]

yeah ik but he can't get a decent grip on it because his oversized op shop shirt cuffs keep getting in shot..

[@UFOSoldier_]

🤬 Flint Dibble "compromised" archeologist .. The Dibbler got exposed when Graham dibbled down.. 😆

[@YOLO891]

🤣🤣

[@SchurmannStories]

Haha after he smashed his Lego set

[@MentalTaxi]

He couldn't even get that costume in his size, he looked ridiculous 😂 😂

[@dritzzdarkwood4727]

Up and onwards for my man, Ben!🥳. Glad to see him getting wider exposure.

[@dubselectorr345]

Excellent guest! Your best yet. Well done, Ben.

[@larryd6143]

This was a wonderful recap of what Ben has covered over the years. I hope this has garnered a lot of new people interested in his work. Ben is my favorite I really think the best as far as meticulous research goes. I do wish they matched up the photos to the topic better. It is so exiting, there is so much yet to be discovered.

[@rufioswitch2132]

meticulous research LOLLLL 🤣

[@larryd6143]

@@rufioswitch2132 What research have you done?

[@rufioswitch2132]

@@larryd6143 any replies i make on this thread seem to disappear

[@wheelies4days763]

Haven’t even watched yet and I already want more like this on news newsnation, I love Ben from unchartedX he opened my eyes to a lot of extraordinary things

[@grantchandler8294]

I've been watching this guy for years now and he really hits the nail on the head. It's really obvious that advanced civilisations existed long before us. Will we eventually disappear like they did long ago?

[@MrAchile13]

I've been watching this guy too and also studying the topic and he has a long history of making up claims and then moving the goalposts when debunked. He has been debunked over and over again, yet he still continues to sell fantasies and tours...

[@butchkenney8123]

Ben! So good to see you chatting with Ross. UnchartedX is the place to be folks!

[@hamidghaednia]

Loved this episode thank you!

[@robbieutjuber]

I'm greatfull that we finally can hear more onorthodox proven "sounds" about history and UAP's by Ross Coulthart and Ben van Kerkwyk. We must asap rewrite our history books. Great journalism, thank you Mr Coulthart.

[@rogerjohnson2562]

wow, this is why I'm subscribed to both NewsNation and UnchartedX !!!

[@benconway9010]

Why because you can’t handle truth????!!!!!!!

[@margaretbrown9478]

@@benconway9010because he CAN

[@yajrewop4672]

How have I not known about this Ross fella? What an excellent interviewer with obvious intellect and an open mind! I will be paying attention to him. PS -Ben Rocks!

[@misssmith56]

So happy you are covering this topic, Ross. It's long past time someone credible delved into these mysteries. We have watched, listened and read so much rubbish from others. Thank you.

[@cherylprice2540]

Thanks Ross, that was a very interesting interview.

[@StephanieWestall-t4v]

This is amazing! I've been watching Ben for years now, so happy to see him on a new platform!

[@tezsullivan6048]

Merry Christmas Ben and Ross and all the best for the New Year

[@mariaarnott6061]

Been looking forward to this contribution Ross. Great stuff, thank you.

[@kyriakoslouka5773]

Thank you Ben for another excellent video.The grinding marks in the holes,as well as the specific positions and orientations of some of the holes suggest the use of advance diamond drilling machines(core drilling).

[@Colton1776]

UnchartedX has been teaching me more about ancient Egypt than I ever learned in school, since before people knew who he was. He deserves his recognition for the amount of dedication he’s put into this.

[@SpokoR3]

Teaching you how to apply unscientific methods of study and make arguments by appealing to authority? Which school did you go to?

[@AntonSmyth-od6rc]

Read a book on actual Egyptian history perhaps?

[@lindacollins-r4o]

2 of my favorite people together love it, doesn’t get better than this!

[@Rgj5cx]

GREAT interview!!!!! Thx

[@williamdevore9880]

Absolutely fascinating! I really enjoyed this episode. Keep up the great work Ross and News Nation. Thank you.

[@kateS72]

Congrats Ben and Ross for connecting at last!!!!!!!! Long life to greater knowledge and understanding of the world!!

[@Ce5Saturdaysuk]

The direction in journalism you have taken, Ross, has been truly amazing. The world has been waiting for someone like you to come along. It would be great if you could cover the topic of CE-5 contact. It would be great to hear your point of view on this. As a participant in CE-5, I'm sure you will find it fascinating.

[@franciscofredericci4081]

What is your take on CE-5 ? :)

[@Ce5Saturdaysuk]

@@franciscofredericci4081 life-changing.

[@karimkhloufi2767]

Love this conversation, good job guys❤

[@Tom-t1j1g]

At 54:04 the vases are amazing. The stone is so thin that you can see light shining through them in places.

[@lapislazuli7876]

I love alabaster which often comes from Egypt. I love alabaster candle holders. The light shines so beautifully and in a unique way through alabaster like through no other material.

[@andreasloving8930]

@@lapislazuli7876 Alabaster is absolutely gorgeous, and very soft. Between 1.5 - 2 on the Mohs Scale. One of the easiest minerals to work with, which is why it became so popular in Dynastic Egypt. Some of those incredibly thin vases are made of granite, diorite and corundum. Around 7-9 on the hardness-scale, with diamond being 10 and the hardest mineral we know of. Mind boggling for sure.

[@davidkendall2272]

Fascinating and utterly believable explanation for a very advanced civilization responsible for so many incredible artifacts in Egypt, Peru, Turkey, Easter Island, and other areas all over Earth. We do not know our history and shame on the current archeologists who refuse to advance the obvious facts by acknowledging how little we actually know. Thanks for doing this episode, which is well worth the time.

[@henryjace2747]

Unchartedx is the best to fall asleep to, i could watch and listen endlessly, ben is awesome!!

[@psilver063]

If it was that amazing you wouldn’t fall asleep. Sorry to break it to ya!

[@benconway9010]

????Huh??? How could listen to him endlessly if you’re a sleep??? Sorry just asking 😊

[@Twitch24]

I agree, its restful, as is The Why files

[@SpokoR3]

It's the best! It's like listening to fairy tales...

[@simonhunt3106]

I love a good fairytale before bed too.

[@nicolaslingsby7839]

Ross, I so enjoy your interviews. What I struggle with is that you can see when you want to interrupt, which is often. Please try and just listen and let you interviewee finish their thought

[@conormccann7525]

I just finished a trip to Egypt. Pictures and videos don’t accurately depict the magnitude of how mind blowing these ancient monuments and megaliths truly are. It’s apparent that two types of technology were used

[@newworld6474]

these guys cut granite with copper tools too kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5a2Zp-oot53bZY

[@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye]

@newworld6474 Yeah…… I bet ancient people built all those massive cities with that technology…😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ We’re looking in hindsight, we’re trying to find the “how” to explain what “is”…. what we’ve found but don’t understand how it got there…. Let’s ask ourselves do we really think they would have even planned those massive structures if they only had that technology to work with?

[@thetruthchannel349]

@@newworld6474 No one's saying you can't cut granite with copper. Its the limitations of cutting granite with copper by hand that are the problem.

[@mariabanfield6716]

What an awesome conversation….I’m totally enthralled! I love both of these amazing talented Aussies! 🇦🇺 I have been a long time fan of Ross (a rare trustworthy journalist)!! And keen to find out more on Ben 🥰

[@cspicer4611]

Just another fascinating episode I come to expect from Ross.

[@tEAmENKI]

I’ve followed Ross and UFOs for years and he’s now showing up in my other two interests, the Younger Dryas and the Sumerian Dieties 😊 The truth is out there #ChallengeTheOrthodoxParadigm

[@lapislazuli7876]

Well it's all connected. It's hardly surprising.

[@kateS72]

Same!

[@Viewer1978]

I truly enjoy listening to your programs. Thank you.

[@jskeyboardwarrior-pe9kn]

Im a third year Anthropology student. We are going to change the history book's. The narritive that civilization started 6000 years ago is a past narrative. Turkey is the new Egypt.

[@brianmiller4466]

hats off to you. there's a great deal to be done. enthusiasm like this gives me hope. cheers

[@russsigman1321]

Great show, thank you Ross for introducing Ben. I subscribed to his KZbin channel while watching the presentation. One thought came to me, the people that made these amazing artwork not only had advanced tooling but they also must have had a method to alter the material during the manufacturing process. Resonating Harmonics May be an answer. It has been hypothesis that the ancients used resonate levitation to move and place these massive monolithics Thank you Sir

[@OscarFrosty]

Glad to see new horizons being explored! Love Ben and his work. Great show!

[@johnramirez5032]

Those vases are a great point they are proof someone with specialized tools. You cant get these tolerance by hand methods

[@claregrose1714]

I agree BEN is the most open-minded and unbiased researcher on KZbin regarding ancient civilisations/archeological sites. He does extensive research and involves/encourages the views of scientists as well as qualified/specialised archeologists to present his findings in a very organised and clear/articulate way.

[@thomasxxxxxx2345]

"open minded" is code for denying reality and failing to accept that ancient Egyptians build pyramids and other great monuments. "open minded" is code for denying the carbon 14 dating of the pyramids (which places their construction around 2 500 BC) and literal mountains of evidence... "open minded" is code for never questioning whether the vases he "scans" were made in the 20th or 21st century and are fakes Who are these "scientists" and "archeologists" he encourages ?

[@GroberWeisenstein]

Why does he censor his comment section so much on his video channel then?

[@driveboy317]

@@GroberWeisenstein like all fringe dwellers he doesnt like alternative pragmatic opinions

[@GroberWeisenstein]

@driveboy317 runs contrary to truth seeking, and if one thinks they hold the truth, it should be able to withstand the rigors of peer review.

[@driveboy317]

@ agreed but so many of these clowns think peer review is some kind of grand conspiracy to "hide everything"

[@JimmyKlef]

I want to add… it is absolutely critical to realize that if things are prohibitively expensive… that absolutely also means we can’t do them. They had some way in which it was not prohibitively expensive. If there are any reasons we can’t do them, we can’t do them. When skeptics say “we can do this today but don’t because it’s too expensive” it means “we don’t actually have the ability to do this today”. Also… they often say we can do certain things today that we actually can’t at all. They also say we can do things today that require modern technology. Those are things that in every way imaginable further *proves* it was mysterious and advanced. A lot of this stuff… we CAN NOT do. Even things as seemingly simple as alignments. People cannot align constructions that size to the precision that they did. There’s many examples. And the ones we can do today requires an enormity of modern tech. That doesn’t make it any less mysterious. It makes it more mysterious. Also… we are literally finding out how advanced they were as we become capable ourselves. We had no idea they must have used machines until we had them and could see the machine-like qualities. We don’t even notice how amazing they were until we get there ourselves. That speaks volumes. People skip over this absolutely objective fact. It is still lost or unknown information and whatever the reason we can’t do this APPLIES. If it’s too expensive… we can’t do it. Either they had a way to do it cheaply… or they had way more ability economically than we did. And slavery 100 percent does not make up for it. In fact the more we find out is the less slavery was actually occurring. It was mostly done by paid free skilled workers. Slavery could not explain away the economic obstacles. I absolutely hate that argument. That we “could” do it but can’t because of money. It means we can’t do it. It’s just a dumb way of saying we can’t do it.

[@benconway9010]

Yes mate absolutely well said and you are right!!!!!!👍👍

[@scism2085]

Exactly! It wasn't expensive to do it back then so why would it be now? They like to use the money excuse bc nobody wants to pay extra money that they don't need to.

[@beachcaster56]

Fantastic stuff..........great to listen to both of you. Ben is so impressive

[@OVTraveller]

As a born cynic, I value the opportunity you give to the commentators Ross. We must continue to be open to question the relevance of new research and findings without necessarily condemning the presenters. Having discovered a new human hominid in recent times, they were almost universally accepted. The start of the human evolutionary journey continues to look for newer and newer origins.

[@gagascrafttoonzz172]

I have no problem believing their have been other civilizations that were destroyed for whatever reason most likely not following the One true God.

[@gagascrafttoonzz172]

I have no problem believing their have been other civilizations that were destroyed for whatever reason most likely not following the One true God.

[@jamesmatheson150]

I love your work, Ross, thank you for fighting the good fight. I hope you had a blessed Christmas and have a happy new year.

[@lapislazuli7876]

You must be from Richard Dolan's community if you say fight the good fight.

[@jamesmatheson150]

@ ‘ fight the good fight’ is a pretty common saying, are you familiar with the cognitive bias known as the illusion of validity?

[@lezlie6286]

The vases are truly wonderful. Such precision. It would seem that the old established narrative of archeology is being left in the dust. Please excuse the pun.

[@noodlesmetal]

Cheers guys hopefully this sparks some people's curiosity that have never seen Ben or his channel Uncharted X before.

[@farhadnikzad1514]

A truly informative video Many thanks

[@joannadziaduch2138]

Excellent interview thank you!

[@davidambrose8935]

This has been epic..I've followed Ben for years and he's absolutely the best on this ...but ross is like a breath of fresh air ,he's absolutely on it ,this is brilliant ❤

[@gtcable2]

I love how Prof. Garry Nolan counters their arguments by saying, "You sound more like a pastor than a PhD."

[@GertrudAumann]

👍😂😂😂

[@j.christie2594]

Fairy gary😮, he needs a Solid sinal column.

[@royalred920]

Ben might be the best in the whole “alternative history” space. He doesn’t take giant leaps, focuses on hard evidence, makes it clear when he’s speculating, is extremely thorough in his explanations, and communicates eloquently.. and humble enough he’d probably blush about what I just said. He’s been an important part of the push back against mainstream archeology and Egyptology. It’s unfortunate we’re even in the position of having to push back, but this is the bed they’ve laid. They would be smart to swallow their pride and collaborate with legit researchers like Ben, Chris Dunn, Graham Hancock, among others. That’s really all most of us want; for the elephants in the room to be acknowledged and addressed vs ignored, or like in the case of the tube drill lines, obviously manipulated in order to mislead. But I’m not holding my breath. Expect the gaslighting to continue and we’ll just keep on keeping on in spite of it.

[@muddywitch9016]

I visited the British Museum last week. I saw many similar vases. They are incredible in their precision. Took my breath away.

[@deborahpeet6740]

Excellent interview! Thank you both for working to bring the truth to light,

[@jasonv.9015]

I work with granite and we use diamond grit drill bits, saw blades and diamond grit polishing pads, all used at high speed and with water. Without water the saw blades warp and granite blows out deposits due to extreme heat

[@dieodd9866]

That's the main reason why they didn't use saw blades & diamon grit but well documented copper saw + sand .Believing Egyptian didn't build the pyramids is just a racist conspiracy theory.

[@lapislazuli7876]

So what are you saying?

[@REKLESSWOLVES1]

I work with Granite, Quartz and Marble too, as a Kitchen fitter we cut, shape and polish all these materials for worktops and other items. But our tolerances are to within a few millimetres, nothings every perfectly square, flat or even polished as they don`t need to be as the Human eye doesn`t pick up on these discrepancies yet these vases and bowls are accurate to within a 1000th of a millimetre, we are talking micron accurate machining, no matter how many years you polished on a piece of Granite with sand, flint or copper you could never achieve this level of accuracy, and even if you could lets say,,,, how or what would you use to measure that accuracy ? You`d need needle dial gauges, vernier calipers which they didn`t have 4500 - 5000 years ago. My Dad, Uncle and Grandad were Engineers and some of it rubbed off on me so i can understand the science and Metrology of Engineering these vases and what would go into making them, remember we are`nt talking about one or two here, there were over 50.000 found under the pyramid at Saqqara in Egypt, so we are talking a manufacturing industry on a grand scale. The data that`s been generated on these vases by Ben, Chris Dunn and his Son Alex have proved this, it`s now time for us to revaluate our human timeline, history and start to accept that human civilisation is tens if not hundreds of thousands of years older than previously thought.

[@danontherun5685]

@@REKLESSWOLVES1 How many masonry cutters do you wear out in a year? Anything that cuts even soft stone would last longer than the stone it cut so where are the thousands of tons of worn out tooling? And yet we waste trillions on space and ocean research with little further benefit.

[@jasonv.9015]

@REKLESSWOLVES1 exactly, what they were doing back then was impossible to do with primitive tools. But looking at the pyramids we already knew they had advanced technology, but cutting any stone thin and flat and uniform, or those giant statues made so perfect is simply impossible without advanced tech that we don't know anything about. That area must be from way before 13,000 yrs agony, before advanced people were wiped out and probably buried under 40ft of earth