COUNTER STRIKE MOBILE | WHAT WE KNOW

[@PHiNiX]

By now it is somewhat confirmed that CS:GO Mobile is already in the works. This was not the case when this Video came out. First evidence of it was found on the day after the Video has come out and by now we know of App Store and Google Play literally mentioned within the game code, as well as words like "Charging" or "Touch", heavily suggesting a future mobile port. There is little to nothing suggesting in what stage of development the game is. Valve is and has always been pretty secretive about their projects, present and upcoming, so the game could literally be either close to release or just planned for a release in a few years and we would be none the wiser.

[@PHiNiX]

This Video was not planned, like at all. 

Yesterday when all the CS Source 2 video packages dropped I somehow felt motivated to make a video on it and what it could mean for mobile gaming, as this very topic has been somewhat hot on Twitter for the last few days. 
And I guess, something in me also liked the thought of challenging myself on how fast I could finish a video that I’d be satisfied with. I started writing the Video at 18:44, 23rd of March and I am currently typing these lines at 7:02 AM almost 12 hours later with the sound design, the thumbnail and the rendering still to do. Please tell me what you think about the video, 

thank you for watching and have a nice day.

[@shalom1523]

5:28 DAMN that summarized the C-OPS Community so good. I thought about it the other day, and came to conclusion that the Base CS Game on mobile just wont be playable. they will have to optimize the gameplay so much, and i really doubt they will take the effort to do that. Great video once again!

[@god_pros343]

Lmao

[@ImpMobile]

Glad to know I was an inspiration for this video

[@skyset1234]

This aged like milk

[@PHiNiX]

what about it exactly? xd

[@skyset1234]

@@PHiNiX I'm very skeptical about CS2 mobile's existence, pretty sure that little to no work has been put into it.

[@PHiNiX]

Well.. I'd be surprised if Valve wouldnt be cooking up something.. We'll see

[@skyset1234]

(I should have commented on the community post to avoid confusion)

[@PHiNiX]

perhaps

[@kn1GhTGaming777]

It’s really cool to see you making more dynamic content rather than your mainstream content loved every bit of you vid ❤

[@PHiNiX]

trying my best, thank you

[@YOGA47]

no aim assist is a must or nerf aim assist as rank increases or reinvent aim assist because there are many different types of aim assist to nerf so people learn gyro when the game gives low or no aim assist. The proof is pubg Mobile and Nintendo are extremely casual friendly even 80 years citizen can play Nintendo gyro & people seriously believe kids and adults can't learn gyro especially if game gives a different type of gyro. If gyro bye-bye touch issues like crack display and no need to learn claw. Apex died in season 1 Because of an insane aim assist how do you know who is hacker when everyone shoots like god + bad anti-cheat we still can't see uid to reports with evidence so mobile need an overall good anti-cheat system. Because of mobile aim assist movement have to be faster than pc version. On mobile Op aim assist game need low ping & good device like iphone & ipad to get dopamine but if low or no aim assist game so more manual aim = gyro aim, people can still get dopamine on 30fps and without wifi. Casual People will still miss shots even on insane aim assist game because thumbs is not naturally made for aiming. Aim assist one lie created lots of lies and issues even more than the console

[@PHiNiX]

i am a huge supporter of gyro, because mimics PC, in the sens that you can split your aiming inputs and use a relatively high senstivity for longer flicks and direction changes, but while still being able to maintain a high accuracy with microflicks and long tracking. Mouse and Keyboard allows you to do this through wrist and arm aiming and using touch and gyro is just the closest that you eill ever get to that. Where I start disagreeing with the things you are saying is when you talk about that it replaces claw and that is just wrong. Your 2 thumbs will do aiming and moving by default. Not using claw means that you take your control away from these 2 inputs in order to press other buttons, which is stupid. There is no argument against using more than 2 fingers and thus far any attempt at it that I have heard, is somethat that I could disprove simply from my own experience with gaming. A good anticheat system on mobile is never going to happen, because of how fragile these devices are. The only way to improve the anticheat of any game is to check the gamefiles for third party modifications while you are playing. This checks many thousands of very small files in a very short time frame and phones are neither designed to, nor capable of sustaining that while outputting the gameplay at a high framerate. So you can pick and choose between a game that is playable and a game that is largely hacker free. Gaming has not and will never be designed to work on no wifi. Even tho 5G and even 4G would in many places easily have the speeds required, they lack the consistency for it. High Jitter, lots of Packet Loss and a ton of devices utilizing the same network leading to inconsistent gameplay for you and the people in your lobby. I have said enough about aim assist, but you apoear to be confusing the premise of my arguments against it. Aim Assist is an amazing tool to make games more accessible to more people (like the Wii does with simplifying sports significantly in order to be enjoyed with little knowledge and experience). My arguing against aim assist is exclusive to competitive gameplay and the stepping stone immediately beneath it. When you are competing for money or practicing to do so, it is incredibly important to know what you are capable of. And when you own perception of that is heavily inflated by something like Aim Assist, then that is bad. You are a casual player tho and Aim Assist and features like it are designed to benefit you and they do so every day, likely without you even noticing. Aim Assist on a combined scene causes many problems for its top 5%, but is an overall net positive for accessibility, profitability and sustainability. No Game will ever get rid of it completely on mobile and that is something that you will have to cope with.

[@YOGA47]

@@PHiNiX Not replace i play claw I mean more accessibility, you don't have to learn claw when u gyro u auto become claw, Like if the game has insane aim assist 2 thumbs players are forces to learn claw because u need movement to counter aim assist Because op aim assist game every one shot or dont doesn't mis shots is crazy u need movement that from claw and aim comes from aim assist. But if no aim assist game, if you movement good then your aim drop, u need aim + movement and very few will have moments+aim insane that is why you always see 2 thumbs players on the world's best or top 10 best in the country list because sometimes all you need is the insane aim and simple movements, this thing only happened on pubgm etc. I mean anti cheat system overall not just ingame anti cheat detection i know mobile hardware is light but i am talking overall anticheat system and there always be hacker's. But with insane aim assist, its hard to notice hackers with normal casual eyes that's why codm casual players get mass reports to account ban issue is common and top team complain hacks on underdogs team is so common issues codm all because broken aa every game has this issue but on op assist it multiples, sometimes that kill cam glitch + aim assist. The same happened on apexM so ez to hide aim bot because all the Japanese player shoots like hackers because of aim assist recoil reduction and because the zooming effect increases the size of the AA bubble on the screen. So hard to know hackers if average movement Like aim assist give delusion confidence so there game sense doesn't improve fast, so lots of people hate apex, like how the f u hate game when u don't know basic game sens, they think apex is br so br game sense will work but apex its totally different game sens. Like nobody knew knockdown shield is a trophy system and hard glitch where u can 1v3. Etc Plus if low or no aa its will ez for anticheat system more people correct report, + upcoming ai to detect cheat will be so ez to do anti cheat if no aa. I know wifi or mobile network will never be good for gaming i been using rj45 connection for so long since pubgm days and knew it from 2014 csgo. Usb 2.0 3.0 3.1 rj45 adapter on android mobile, iPhone, ipad pro tired everything at highest gameplay lvl. Change Different isp i know little tech knowledge. but i also know low ping and ipad biggest screen will always be op even without aim assist but not that op if low or no aim assist. You see low ping with insane aim assist multiply that shit to god lvl, like if they Can miss one or two extra shot if no aim assist or gyro it becomes skill on low ping or ipad so my brother without wifi get a chance. Thats why lots of casual enjoyed and tryhard reach top % lvl on high ping or 30fps on pubgm. Every console is same cpu but mobile is different like if the game run on 30fps poor guy will get destroyed by 60fps AA if no aa 60fps need real skill so 30fps gets a chance same with ping or iPad so fewer people hate iPad I am not gonna flex or it won't end just know i am super sweet and also see from a casual mid-range android point of view. U see casual can learn gyro easily but the problem with gyro is game need to give low or no or reinvents aim assist, so try gyro or they never learn like on fortnight mobile and fortnight console why would they gyro if aa is op. Pubgm and Nintendo prove it casual can also gyro kids or adult brain plasticity doesn't matter much. But those games accidentally did it. lol with just 1 or 2 useless gyro settings option because on gyro when u learn at the start everyone have different arm and wrist dexterity and range of motion. u can't give just one gyro setting and forces them to learn it. U see not many competitive esports left only cod alive because u have to pay millions to join cdl and probably view bot or no way they get 30k live views just to keep sponsors + imagine if cod didn't have strong community leaders. Don't count apex algs because its both mnk and aim assist. So only aim assist esports is on mobile because we are stupid Kids or new to gaming so not matured like pc so easy to fool like free fire devs they added so many settings but will never add gyro like they are scared to add gyro lies. I am saying this after hours of different game experiences at the highest lvl on different devices. Obviously, we need aim assist to give dopamine or to learn gyro at the start because u only feel aim assist on extremely low sense gyro but sometimes when every aaa studio does that it becomes collective stupidity like 1 lie becomes more lies. sometimes they need to innovate in aim assist and gyro settings option, even if you give insane aim assist casual will miss shots because thumb was never made for aim naturally 99.99% population its wrist & arm made for aim. If only my English was good or i should have written it down points because i can't remember there is so many aim Assist issues on mobile for just casual pov. And what ever i am saying is extremely difficult to understand because my eng suck + other gyro players don't know also because its very difficult to quit gyro one's u learn it so 99.99% gyro plays do know. So basically u need to play on different devices, reach touch aim at good lvl and gyro max lvl then quit gyro aim you will understand what i am saying

[@felixtense]

"A bad rip off" *standoff 2 Icon" - nice ✔✔

[@waqtav]

That standoff 2 icon is a bit old it has a different icon for like 3-4 years now

[@NeKoRoSYS]

It's like they never even saw Standoff 2 gameplay nor how the pro community plays at all

[@CheckGuri]

Very nice video

[@PHiNiX]

thank you

[@Bondzero]

cs mobile would be sick and crazy entertaining for the community, it needs the perfect mix of casual gameplay and extreme skill based gameplay possibilities. They‘d have to remake their entire maps and adjust to the mobile engine. Otherwise it would go down badly. I‘m teased tho and glad to see some more background actions in the mobile scene possibly happening. I mean what could be better than R6S Mobile and CS Mobile being released this year.

[@PHiNiX]

Valve has rarely gone for bad busines decisions and simply based on the positive implications coming with an expansion to mobile, I have no doubts that they are planning something. I think Valve and Ubisoft are the only hopes for mobile gaming, because the Monopoly that Tencent currently has is simply not good for the community, both from a casusl as well as from a competitive standpoint. Few people actually like their games and big parts of their comp scenes are only there for the money, which is understandable but sad to see.

[@so14r3]

As much as I hated MLBB, they did a great job at simplifying gameplay while making it so that the skill ceiling is still high as shit, CS is already that on it's own, so a bit of simplification and controls while keeping the skill ceiling would make for a great competitive game

[@juvyayegbusi9962]

It's a good idea for valve cause CSGO fans fan actually play it anywhere

[@PHiNiX]

indeed

[@Ferno2k]

valve is like how apple is for tech industry. they don't mess around when it comes to communication and there projects. valve has constantly showed us with there each game that if they make something new it will not be just a hype train but an actual content made very very professionally. When It comes to mobile my guess is it's most likely not going happen. but but but if by god sake if they do it I promise you valve will make that controls and mechanism of the game casual friendly like pc while complex enough for comp player. I mean common man they have made most complex mechanism for game. giving accessibility to mobile controls is not a huge issue other than low end performance.

[@PHiNiX]

Yup.. Valve doesn't half ass thing. If they do it, they are gonna do it right. Wish we could say the same about all other companies who have brought their Software into the mobile market.

[@skyset1234]

5:36 Where can buy I this?

[@PHiNiX]

I wish this existed xd

[@thalibmuhammad9519]

what makes you think it doesnt work if its hard to control? new generation will master the touch screen control anw look at free fire competitive scene, but if valve taps in, things will be differenr

[@PHiNiX]

games sustain themselves based on accessibility. a competitive is well and good, but the money to sustain that has to first be pumped into the game by a casual playerbase. If the baseline of the game is too difficult, then fewer casual players will be around. Valve is in the position that they have near endlessly deep pockets and that they could see a Mobile port as a way to draw attention to the other products and services that they offer and sell, so we may not have to worry about them releasing a boring and watered down game to please casual players, but for pretty much every other company that would be a valid point of concern.

[@NeKoRoSYS]

3:58 Standoff 2 has all that and is constantly improving, please do more research

[@PHiNiX]

if you live in russia, it does. The devs have no intent to make the game even playable in europe. The servers are awful and competitive is nonexistent. I have played Standoff on an off for years and I know about its problems, which is why I described it the way I did.

[@PHiNiX]

@arkhengelsk9484 while ping isnt the only determining factor when it comes to rubberbanding and lag, I can assure you that you are not the only person experiencing these problems.

[@ashca30]

That's interesting.

[@kais6r]

cops hud on cs2 gameplay, huh?

[@PHiNiX]

nooooo its CS Mobile man

[@viralcarvidz]

Tbh i want anything that will take c ops down, the devs dont deserve the money they getting from the game lol

[@waqtav]

Standoff 2 isn't that bad it's like mobile, csgo and valorant had a baby

[@so14r3]

Standoff 2 was before VALORANT was even announced lol

[@PHiNiX]

standoff is a good game in russia, anywhere outside of it the servers are literally useless

[@nutshell3417]

Standoff 2 was released in 2015 before valorant was released 💀

[@PHiNiX]

That is a massive load of bullshit. The oldest gameplays on youtube date to early 2017, so does Standoff's official KZbin Channel, which was created in May 2017. Standoff's social medias in general have not posted anything until early 2017. First post on Facebook April 2017. First post on Twitter December 2016. So2 predates predates Valorant, which nobody doubted to begin with, but a release in 2015 is just misinformation for no reason. The earliest date Standoff was accessible outside of a closed test build was 17/04/2017.

[@waqtav]

@@PHiNiX they post news in-game like trailers seasonal updates. But yea it's Russia/Easter Europe main. But I have a question why do people hate it, i want to know?