Counterfeits: How to Avoid them

[@greenteamgear]

Ebay taught me the hard way; don't cut corners in price. Microtech is worth every penny in my experience. The quality is worth the cost. 👍

[@greenteamgear]

@@greyman1363 just in general I mean

[@bandito_dino]

Not really. It literally costs 100 bucks to make an otf that’s reliable, but they sell it for endless amounts over 300. I’m sorry, but a knife with 440C like a lightning otf will last a couple months in edge without sharpening, if you use it heavily. And blade play? Literally the same. Its known that double action otf knives have it heavy, even microtech. I sent mine back and kept my lightning elite otf, and if I want something really reliable, I grab my s&w m&p single action otf (no blade play) that costed 50 bucks. Microtech is a rip 👎

[@12345678927164]

No it certainly is not once you get past the American propaganda

[@lionheart9692]

Just bought my first microtech from dhgate for $40 and I love it,thanks microtech

[@marknorwood8507]

It's not the real deal but it serves it's purpose I buy discounted knives and for self protection .I couldn't justify throwing a 500 knife away if I had to use it in a self defense situation.

[@lrh411]

@@marknorwood8507 If you need to stab somebody in self protection, $500 will be the least of your worries be serious. You buy cheap blades because you are a cheapskate.

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

@@marknorwood8507The best knife is the one you actually brought with you 😅

[@AlCapwnd-tb5ow]

@@marknorwood8507 So if you had to use a knife for self defense you'd rather use a cheap knock off to protect your life? That's wild, personally I'm using a legit knife to protect my life as I feel my life is worth much more than $500

[@johnruiz6743]

Fake bs! 👎

[@Youtube-Censorship-Police]

the fact that you guys are willing to send back that counterfeit trash speaks volumes, if it was me i wouldn't want that knife back to be honest.

[@alex-cf4dy]

That's cool he's had the same microtech for 22 years. Something about buying quality stuff and keeping it a long time is so satisfying. I hope my UT works for 22 years or more.

[@MyKnifeJourney]

I'm always impressed that all Microtechs are so tested, engineered, and assembled with such precision and care.

[@mydoto]

and with a $500 price tag ...lmao

[@Goofiest_goober838]

@@mydoto only if you buy an expensive one, they start at around $225-ish

[@willcresson8776]

@@mydoto I got one of their larger production models, came out to be about what a ZT costs. They're not cheap, but they're also not cheaply made. There are many great budget knives, there are even some great budget OTF/Autos; however, they're probably not gonna be quite as nice as the microtech or won't have as good customer service.

[@gigilaco]

They used to be. I got a brand new Microtech last week and the quality was horrible. The entire thing was poorly made - uneven blade, sloppy switch, etc etc. Genuine Microtech off of DLT. The high end counterfeits have better quality control.

[@DanielCaddSatori]

When the family at microtech and marfione customs put in the effort to bring you unsurpassed quality having a real microtech is not just having a brand name knife it is being part of a family. The people that produce these counterfeits do not care about quality or what Anthony and Susan put forth in there lives to bring you such quality. I would personally head up a counterfeit department just for microtech to go after these counterfeiters if they did not have one already. MICROTECH LOYALTY!

[@isaakjunkeer785]

Majority of people that buy knockoff microtechs know they are fake. They buy them because it’s $40 and it looks almost identical to real ones. Also people just use them as fancy box openers. They know they blade steel is trash and it doesn’t keep an edge. Still cost $40 vs $350! I could buy a fake micro tech and a real gun for the price of one real microtech. Just sayin! Real is always better than fake👍

[@DanielCaddSatori]

@@isaakjunkeer785 Understandable if they do not want to invest in quality for a real microtech and just want a paper weight. The true issue is those counterfeiters using the name microtech and copyright infringement not to mention if they hold patents on anything. I could picture microtech as stand up of a company as they are that if every counterfeiter was apprehended and microtech could take all the money the counterfeiters got they wouldn't take it but tell them give it to the people you sold this crap to. I still want to see Ray cut a counterfeit in half.... I might just do it myself (smiles)

[@Tom_H327]

I have 6 MT's. I have met Anthony, introduced myself and shook his hand. He did not call me brother. Microtech is just a company that makes quality shit. Nothing more.

[@DanielCaddSatori]

@Member Berry You do what you do, buddy. The chances you actually will have to use a knife in a defense situation it probably just as slim. Also, most microtechs come with a lanyard hole where you can wrist wrap the knife. Furthermore, if you're even in a actually defense situation and police are involved, you can get the knife after the investigation is done. True, all knives can fail, but here's a story. My buddy bought a new 22 pistol for around 280-300 and thought it was a good deal to save money. That thing jammed on him almost every shot. You get what you pay for. Like I said, do you, buddy. But also the other point was making people can go buy a cheaper OTF or knives from other manufacturers, just not clones/counterfeits. Thanks for the comment, though. Be safe.

[@mrnobodyz]

🇺🇸💩🏆

[@jet3xi]

Ray is such a great presenter, should be a teacher for public communication.

[@whoeusbsknsi]

maybe great for a redneck? nobody outside the country would think it great

[@REDARO11]

Ray you are cool brother… I respect you!

[@Oneminutetofixit]

Just purchased one from an authorized dealer from the website. Found what I was looking for and now I might be going back for another. Awesome knife and quality you can feel. So happy to purchase a USA made product.

[@andrewlowrance3451]

I just one off of Nc blades today 😊I went the authorized dealer through Macrotec and I found yes he blades worth it

[@dexewing1]

People may scoff intially at the cost of a Microtech but there are good reasons why they cost as much as they do. I have seen counterfeit Microtechs at pawn shops before and to someone who is not in tune to the details, they indeed do look like the real deal. Unfortunately, just about every major knife manufacturer has counterfeits. The ultimate tool here is educating the consumer on how to spot the fakes. Great video!

[@JMRabil675]

The reason they cost so much is because fools buy them. They are worth 200 on average not the insane overpriced 400+ price tags for a knife. You can get a legitimate Japanese chefs knife for that much. Give me a break

[@JMRabil675]

The reason they cost so much is because fools buy them. They are worth 200 on average not the insane overpriced 400+ price tags for a knife. You can get a legitimate Japanese chefs knife for that much. Give me a break

[@JMRabil675]

The reason they cost so much is because fools buy them. They are worth 200 on average not the insane overpriced 400+ price tags for a knife. You can get a legitimate Japanese chefs knife for that much. Give me a break

[@CBORK27]

The reasons are Veblen effect, conspicuous consumption, and magic american made that nowadays actually doesn't stand for quality😂

[@croom332]

Man that sucks, that dude's entire collection turned out to be fake... I'd be livid if I found out I got scammed EIGHT times like that.

[@voodoo7008]

That’ll happen bargain hunting.

[@isaakjunkeer785]

Dudes either got half a brain or he’s never held a quality knife in his life. How you buy not one but eight fakes without even knowing seems highly implausible to me. I mean they don’t even offer those color/blade combinations. I call B/S. Probably some 🤡 trying to get one over on microtech and have them service their fakes.

[@charliegone1652]

I sure hope he's able to track em down and get his money back.

[@ericspear3610]

@@charliegone1652 Not likely.

[@jason1440]

So relieved to see my dealer on the list and mine came in the correct packaging.

[@DanielCaddSatori]

Ray you should do a counterfeit torture test and slice a counterfeit in half with a microtech

[@TheHollowGrind]

I've had to unfortunately tell some customers the Microtechs they sent in to us for trade were fakes on several occasions. My most recent experience was someone who bought a "Custom" Marfione SS Ultratech with abalone inlays for $1200 without a box and they wanted $2500 for it, but the knife they had was a single edge machined satin blade (that custom never came in that configuration).

[@dlife7427]

Nice. There was a store in Maine called Kittery Trading Sports selling fake Spydercos. Crazy part is there selling Spydercos again.

[@pateralus9]

What an informative video. Ray, I think your new blade dimple is awesome because that there is a story, all for only the price of a tiny mark. It's a great conversation starter that you can talk about if anyone asks you what that mark is. So cool.

[@whoeusbsknsi]

must not get out much to be so fascinated by a dimple in a piece of metal 😂 and try to idolize from a distance, you dont have to be so forward and on the mans balls.. i have a feeling you would suck this man off if he told you he got bit by a poisonous snake and needed you to suck the venom out 😂😂😂

[@pateralus9]

@@whoeusbsknsi Firstly, have you seen dimples? They're adorable. Secondly, I may not get out much, but at least my dad says I'm special. And fourthly, I'm super smrat & would never fall for another person's ball tactics. I mean get real! So funnie

[@whoeusbsknsi]

@@pateralus9 sorry we got off on the wrong foot.. can we start over fresh, pal? & can you do me a favour? i think i got stung by a bee, and i’m allergic 😵‍💫 u wouldnt let me die now would you? 🫣

[@ZOMSTER13]

Pricey, but absolutely worth the extra cash for. Just out of curiosity does damascus fall within a different range on the hardness scale? Thanks!

[@bandito_dino]

My go to is the m&p single action otf for reliability, and the lightning elite otf for fidget. The m&p literally has almost no blade play and its 40 bucks with high carbon knife steel!

[@jimmyf1312]

I recently got a Brachial shadow from you guys and can I say that the blade is scary sharp. The sharpest of any blade I’ve ever gotten and I’ve owned a lot of pocket knives

[@jkstdstang]

Met Ray at Bladeshow TX 2023 at the MT booth while handling a few blades and own a few MTs in my collection. Most recent is a Socom Bravo mini in route I’m super excited about as I have wanted a Socom mini since the aluminum handled versions. Should be the perfect size for EDC and hopefully MT will offer more manual models in similar sizes. Loved the part where Ray Rockwell tested his old faithful Socom EDC! Wasn’t expecting that!

[@austinnelson4332]

What a great video! Thank you for sacrificing your blade!

[@dimashynkaruk2169]

Have two fakes and 1 og 70 utx, og keeps breaking a spring fakes work flawlessly in d2 hold great edge. Live in canada where its prohibited , dh gate allthe way

[@bunnyslayer3390]

Im a longtime subscriber and lifelong fan of microtech, I'm about to make my first microtech purchase

[@molon_labe_nc9390]

That's wild that they get that close in a counterfeit

[@luigi999ish]

Yeah except with some production now heading to China, it's just gonna make it easier for them to make a counterfeit. So this video coming out is informative but I also feel like it's Microtech also covering their behinds. Definitely looking forward to seeing how Microtech will combat this going forward.( i buy from dealers exclusively except for some of my Customs )

[@jeromebullard6123]

Same with the Benchmade knives. Ever since they started sending some stuff to China for production, their knives suck. I’m glad I have a REAL REAL Infidel. Super awesome knife. The later production ones are junk.

[@SubmarineZues]

Yeah. I don’t feel bad about counterfeits when they move production to China.

[@joshtaylor5382]

Just got my first microtech. Purchased an ultratech Jedi knight. Thank you for appealing to my love of star wars and knives.

[@LibertyFromLead]

Ray looks like the long range shooter X-Ring . Like a lot. I thought he was him when scrolling KZbin lol. Anyway, that dimple is a honor mark. Wouldn't be upset at that at all man. 👍🏻🐍🇺🇸

[@XRING]

Hey Dustin! Good eye, I am X-Ring on KZbin!🤣 Thanks again for watching and have a great week.

[@LibertyFromLead]

@@XRING yea I actually watch your channel as well as KB32's lol. I figured it out pretty quick especially when I saw the channel name too! Lmao. Take care man. Thanks for responding sir. 🐍🇺🇲

[@StratBurst92]

I have been collecting Microtech knives since 2008. All were purchased from authorized dealers.

[@marcusinfestus1333]

This man has no idea he sold me an ultratech. $300+ is a lot of money. Worth every penny.

[@joshua6839]

Just bought a real ultratech OD green with trigrip last week and love it next one will probably be a combat troodon

[@heavenbound9144]

I just got burned bad on a Hellhound vi.. I don't even want to talk about it. But it was razor sharp looked amazing and it came with a Holster and the box/ paperwork and a very small tool to tighten the nuts.. now for sure I don't think I will ever be able to get my hands on a Authentic Microtech..

[@JerryTelford-k7e]

I'm here in Texas where we can carry just about anything. I edc a Dirac Delta and I've loved every moment. I'm wondering if yall will soon make otf knifes with bigger blades. Yall keep em coming

[@dbmail545]

I purchased a counterfeit Glykon just to see what a $60 version of a $600 knife would be like. The only real giveaway was a subtle defect in the LASER marking although the fit and finish was inferior to the genuine item.

[@thaknobodi]

I couldnt afford a MT untill yall released the polymer MSI

[@rottingcorpse6002]

I buy my microtech knives from blade/hq. I know I'm getting the real thing with the badass warranty that microtech backs up it's knives with.

[@live4wild968]

Thanks Ray, Hope you are doing well.

[@wesleywarsmith1113]

I've got a good eye for these things. I know the counterfeits, the stamped cast, and the cheap. I know them all and you can tell the difference on a real Microtech.

[@rmeav8er000]

I own a few genuine Microtech OTFs and bought a cheap clone for $30 to see what the internals looked like. Misfire within the first 20-30 cycles of the blade. Misfires probably 5% of the time and with no predictable cause. Blade is mystery metal and will not retain an edge beyond 50 cuts in cardboard. Buy nice or buy twice.

[@josephcosta5194]

Ray,I enjoy all your videos(vehicles,guns,knives) always informative.Looking forward to the next one

[@Serg-jz2ep]

Microtech -the best. I Love Microtech and their products. The only thing is, work on the heat treatment of the M390, it is very desirable to reach ~ 63+ HRc, double cryo in liquid nitrogen.

[@cantflipforship]

Step one: stay off Wish

[@mikeflesher4457]

Love when ray takes out his old socom. Anxiously awaiting the same knife in a manual

[@lukehendrickson3669]

Just got one of the 2018 runs and it’s currently on its way to me! You looking for the 1990s release?

[@mikeflesher4457]

Waiting for them to release a new run with a partial serrated clip point same as his but manual.

[@lukehendrickson3669]

@@mikeflesher4457 I snagged one just like that that was a safe queen with a birth date from the first quarter of 2018 or 2019.

[@sixrutters]

Great video Ray. I have a few Microtechs, I am not planning on selling them (full stop). But if something happens to me, hopefully they go to someone who appreciates them. If they don’t, what is the best way to sell them to get their maximum value?

[@bandito_dino]

Using a knife degrades the value, sharpening does as well. So you wont get back what you’ve paid for it if its used.

[@kraakvmaar1505]

International distribution is slightly improving. I like it. For a long time microtech seemed not to be available but im owning 2 microtechs so far. They are not as spectacular/better then everything else as I thought but I do like them.

[@human_bot_]

I have wanted a microtech for years. I see fakes on WISH but could never bring myself to buy one. I would rather wait until the day I can afford a real one.

[@Bombstark]

Why not sell direct to consumer online?

[@HCG]

I can’t believe people actually complain about the price of Microtech knives. American labor is high-quality and the craftsman are paid what they’re worth. As a result you get a durable, heirloom grade knife that will be always be there when you need it. I speak from experience-my Ultratech saved my life once.

[@HCG]

@Josh's life. Are you illiterate? I never even implied that to be the case.

[@archerclub95]

very helpful video👍🏽

[@cappo567]

If you sell them on your website this issue would be less common.

[@72cmcinc]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing! Buy from reputable dealers!

[@akui88]

I had been taken a few times in the past. The thing is I didn’t get any discounts, i paid full msrp. Some of these counterfeit look almost like the real deal, most of the time they mess up on the packaging.

[@ladydemonika420]

Saw a halo VI on Facebook marketplace with a tanto blade and the blade was clearly marked S/E!

[@vigilantezack]

I got a couple knock-offs from Wish, there's a bunch on there. $10-$20 bucks, it's nuts! I'm not staking my life on them or anything, it's just for fun and to open the mail or packages. Don't need $400 to open the mail, but it's still fun to use an otf! The fake is truly a masterpiece. Laser details, heft, strong springs, no wiggle, super sharp. Same security screws, etching, glass breaker, detailed pocket clip and even oem looking box and paperwork. My latest one even came with a little security screw tool for opening it. It would be nice if there were any clues we could have to check if they are knockoff. For example how would anyone know even if they DID want to buy a used one?

[@bily4566]

Thanks for the schooling boss love it

[@nunyabusiness8538]

will you ever upgrade from 6061 to 7075 chassis?

[@MicrotechKnivesOfficial]

We use 7075 on certain models

[@wayned3137]

My LUDT is on the truck and will be here in 4 hours 👌

[@chudleyflusher7132]

I love my DHGATE copy. I’ll never be able to spend $500 on a knife but I am happy with what I received for $50. But I do think that it’s wrong that they use the microtech name and logo. That is, I think clones are fine but not counterfeits.

[@fallenstudent1103]

I can understand why people go to secondary seller websites when you local authorized dealer only has like a few models they even sell and even those are always sold out.

[@locksmithdb5987]

The machining, fit and finish, quality of Microtech knives are AMAZING!

[@12345678927164]

Not the ones made in America

[@Mrocznyty]

Nice video. Can you record something about how big the difference is in hardness between 56 and 58 hrc?

[@rodneypearson6986]

Great info AND Company to even return the fakes

[@throneborn]

So just because someone unknowingly bought a counterfeit and wanted microtech to take a look at it, you hold it for ransom? You destroy their property?

[@skenzyme81]

What a shame that this is happening. Guys these knives are expensive because they're made with premium materials by American craftsman. If you're seeing a price more than about 10% under retail, assume it is fake. I would only consider a private party purchase if its a USED knife and the seller had the original invoice from an authorized dealer.

[@Excalibur01]

The price you pay for made in America

[@MadOgre]

I've seen situations where thieves have swapped counterfits with real items at Dealers. They take the real knife and put the counterfit back. Shameful.

[@redneck4528]

Sometimes it's the dealers doing the swapping.

[@kozmo7]

Thank you

[@D00MTR33]

58-62hrc. For which steels? Most steels that Microtech uses like m390 and Elmax 58 is too low. Most people agree that below 60hrc is too low for those steels. I love Elmax and I found a huge difference in 58-60hrc to 61-62hrc and 65hrc which is one of the best stainless steels I've had edge retention wise only beat out by m398 at 64hrc and s90v at 63hrc.

[@crispinmacfarlane1478]

Gosh, these knives are quality. I've wanted to get one for my daughter but I can't afford it.

[@charlesmckinley29]

When the ad is from Alibaba it’s a good indicator.

[@stevie9361]

If you want good replica then try the lighting elite off. It's no microtech, but still decent

[@xrazx1269]

tajam bersinar

[@sprinkleddonuts6094]

And then youtubers make disassembly videos, showing internals, and Counterfeit makers buying your product and then replicating it… it is scary seeing how far counterfeiters will go. I am about to purchase my first a Blue Two Tone Warhound.

[@Freakazoid23]

i wish i could afford one of your knifes… they are so awesome but 450 euro for a knife is out of my budget. 😵‍💫

[@kevinAuman1]

Yeah let those who are using fakes and that think they're okay handle and use an authentic microtech lol I bet you anything they'll be ordering themselves one or probably more 🤣 I own a few and absolutely love each and every one of them! Nothing cuts and hold up like a true microtech will, now if we can talk Tony into testing out some magnacut that would be sweet lol or even using some different steel choices like cruwear or S90V would make an already amazing product even more incredible

[@PirminZemp2731]

Mega Cool Video Microtech

[@jamesherrera7368]

Is Bladeops an authorized dealer?

[@locksmithdb5987]

I only buy my microtechs from authorized dealers..Blade HQ, PVK Vegas, Bear Mountain outfitters, Manly toys...etc.

[@BrockOfBodom]

I would have laughed so hard if his Socom was like 57 HRC 😂

[@ham5483]

Isnt this the guy from x-ring youtube channel?

[@michaelmillwood4930]

STILL, no video demonstrating counterfeit STITCH AUTOS!!! PLEASE!! Thanks! ;-}. MM

[@markcameroon6613]

im concerned about customs opening and putting in a fake keeping the real its happen once to me the benefits of living in canada i guess

[@christopherdaniel5919]

I purchased an OTF through TACknives USA. Looks suspiciously like an Ultratech, but it DOES NOT CLAIM to be a Microtech product. D2 blade steel. 6061 aluminum & carbon fiber scales. Excellent lockup & function. $130.00. 👍 If I could afford an overpriced Microtech blade, I'd have one. Some folks just don't have $400+ to throw away on a "quality" product. That's why the clone market exists. 🤔 Microtech's outrageous prices created the need for affordable competitors. Sorry.😞

[@ef8025]

Exactly I got 3 clone MT great knifes for what I payed,3 clones for 150 Canadian,Canadian ffs that’s what 75us,snd won’t cry if lost or broken

[@NakoiOuki]

those counterfeits look so pretty. 500 dollars for a knife you said? haha.. where do get the fake ? aliexpress, you said? thanks

[@REDVETTExxx]

And the aliexpress one works great for 42 bucks.

[@FutBoy281]

Are there any online dealers that are known to sell real Microtech Knives? With the possibility that Pennsylvania might end Auto-Knife restrictions, I'm interested in buying one in the future

[@MicrotechKnivesOfficial]

Yes our online dealers @pvk.vegas, @bladehq, and @e_knives also check out warrior knives They may also negotiate international shipping.

[@Excalibur01]

10 years ago, fake knives were easy to spot. Now at a glance, these look real

[@mrnobodyz]

And they’ll only get better. I haven’t watched the video yet but I wonder if they even sourced the best fakes out there. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Iamthedudeman00]

Damn your blade is 154cm and it had such a high hardness!

[@bradypaulculotta740]

I need to win the "GIVEAWAY" so tell the computer to pick me cuz I'm an addict of knives and I need my fix

[@Southernknife_addict]

Good to see an updated video. Those Chinese counterfeiters are getting pretty good unfortunately

[@Jimhelpman]

I was at a friends house yesterday and he had another friend stop by. I noticed his knife was a microtech and asked him about it. He quickly admitted it was a clone from china. I said man you gotta love them. They believe in dragons but not trademarks or patents

[@mrnobodyz]

If I had to choose I’d rather believe in a dragon than a blonde haired blue eyed baby jebus!😂

[@rlachney666]

If you can actually FIND the model you want, and it's not a Ridiculous amount of money...It's a FAKE.

[@iannicely1]

I think I got suckered…. I found an Exocet for 45$. 😅😢

[@1999Valkyrie]

Microtechs may be the best knives ever, but the fact is, I simply refuse to spend upwards of $500 for a knife. Mainly, and sadly, I don't have that much disposable income.

[@sofakingphat8087]

You are out of hoodies on the website, probably not telling you too much because you’ve been out for over a year. If you wanna sell hoodies, then you gotta make sure they’re in stock.

[@beng9411]

Mislabeled video. Why not To buy counterfeits, NOT how to spot them

[@wwm371]

I have bout what I thought was a real Microtech from a well known Knife store, found out it was a fake.

[@MicrotechKnivesOfficial]

What store was that?

[@jamesbaldwin1616]

I know I'm getting the real deal because I buy mine at the Mills River showroom.

[@paulnicholas5082]

I have to say..... I just got a dirac. Can't say I'm happy. Blade tip is not right. And you couldn't center the pocket clip???? Fail!

[@paulnicholas5082]

I ordered mine from bladeHQ.

[@mjf7662]

Yup..I paid $380 for a Combat Trodoone and jumped on it just to find out its a fake.

[@leonidas2068]

The microtech ones are the best of that there is no doubt, but they are too expensive, I know that quality and price go hand in hand but I am a collector and they are prohibitive at the moment.

[@hesa3656]

It occurred to me, a new srevice option- sharpen with dimple/hardness report or without dimple/hardness report.👍🇺🇸 #22aday

[@ammana6553]

Why would i avoid them? They are better.

[@jodiehighroller9820]

Never would I ever pay 500$ for a damn wall hanger pocket knife..basically be too scared to damn use the thing

[@olannakprasitno.5312]

Love Microtech