Covariance and correlation

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Ben Lambert

Ben Lambert

Күн бұрын

This video explains what is meant by the covariance and correlation between two random variables, providing some intuition for their respective mathematical formulations. Check out ben-lambert.co... for course materials, and information regarding updates on each of the courses. Quite excitingly (for me at least), I am about to publish a whole series of new videos on Bayesian statistics on youtube. See here for information: ben-lambert.co... Accompanying this series, there will be a book: www.amazon.co....

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@cgabt1109
@cgabt1109 3 жыл бұрын
Good content lasts forever. This has been useful for me, old engineer dog in his mid 50's , relearning statistics. I couldn't get my head around the differences between these two measures - your video did the trick!
@luckyprod9013
@luckyprod9013 2 жыл бұрын
Man i feel you, 45 years old here and relearning math for my trading after 20 years spent on excel in corporate finance lol
@jospremji
@jospremji Жыл бұрын
@@luckyprod9013 hey, im into trading as well. how are you using statistics for your trading?
@harunsuaidi7349
@harunsuaidi7349 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, so that's where it comes from. I'm an Art graduate learning Statistics for my master degree in Instructional Technology. I never quite got how one could figure out the mathematical expression of the relationship between two sets of data. Now that you explained it, it becomes much clearer. Damn, mathematicians are smart.
@talkohavy
@talkohavy 7 жыл бұрын
Well done! I'm taking a course called Linear Regression and I learned a lot from your video. Thank you for the lesson.
@darynaivaskevych1907
@darynaivaskevych1907 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the brilliant explanation! I finally understand why these formulas are like this.
@tjfirhfjejUTH24
@tjfirhfjejUTH24 7 жыл бұрын
good video very clear. if anyone is having trouble make sure you really understand joint pdfs, and expected values.
@gabrielasantana3809
@gabrielasantana3809 3 жыл бұрын
This guy just has a video for every question, thank you
@batuhantekmen6607
@batuhantekmen6607 3 жыл бұрын
Very intuitive and can be watched along with a formal explanation or numerical calculations! Thank you.
@emilylawrence6051
@emilylawrence6051 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of people disliked this video? this video is amazing! Thank you Ben!
@meshreporting
@meshreporting 10 жыл бұрын
These videos have been nothing but helpful. Thank you so much!
@SpartacanUsuals
@SpartacanUsuals 10 жыл бұрын
Hi, glad to hear they are useful! All the best, Ben
@edentrainor776
@edentrainor776 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a damn clear ad well explained explanation it hurts.
@COSMOPOLITANWORLD
@COSMOPOLITANWORLD 2 жыл бұрын
You made it easy to understand! Thanks a lot!!
@kejeros
@kejeros 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I am actually getting excited for this final now. haha!
@nackyding
@nackyding 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the concise definition.
@katiegraham8484
@katiegraham8484 5 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome explanation. It would be even better if there was an example to accompany it
@questforprogramming
@questforprogramming 5 жыл бұрын
Yep...
@tymothylim6550
@tymothylim6550 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video, Ben. It really helped me understand the intuition behind the formulae, as well as the relation between Cov and Corr! The visuals helped a lot with explaining, too!
@Jdonovanford
@Jdonovanford 7 жыл бұрын
I've read that the formula for betas is beta=cov(x,y)/var(x). However, the formula given in many places for betas does not divide by n (or n-2): beta=sum[(x-x_m)*(y-ym)]/sum(x-x_m)^2. IN this formula, neither the numerator or denominator are divided by N or n-1… to be called covariance and variance.
@kamalgurnani924
@kamalgurnani924 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for explaining the idea behind that intuition!!!
@imzhaodong
@imzhaodong 10 жыл бұрын
I would say these videos are just awesome. thank you so much for effort.
@july-9319
@july-9319 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for the intuition, ben!
@amanuelnigatu4621
@amanuelnigatu4621 9 ай бұрын
this what I want intuition tnx man
@alextessier5727
@alextessier5727 9 жыл бұрын
So helpful to finally understand the difference and the why's! Thank you!
@SachinModi9
@SachinModi9 2 жыл бұрын
Ben Ji, Awesome video..
@Kike_Reloaded
@Kike_Reloaded 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thanks for sharing!
@moliv8927
@moliv8927 Жыл бұрын
Good video, explained well and on point
@JackTheOrangePumpkin
@JackTheOrangePumpkin 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this was really enlightening
@najlahs7311
@najlahs7311 3 жыл бұрын
Thaaaaaank youuuuuu. So breif and clear.
@기바랜드
@기바랜드 6 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate for the perfect explanation.
@palashmyaccount
@palashmyaccount 4 жыл бұрын
Great Explanation. Thank you!
@saraw8951
@saraw8951 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! it's really helpful for my paper
@Elsmeire
@Elsmeire 8 жыл бұрын
Exam in two days, great videos
@aref6561
@aref6561 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. This was very helpful.
@husseinfarag7937
@husseinfarag7937 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, this was really helpful
@emanuelhuber4312
@emanuelhuber4312 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Awesome video
@SciFiFactory
@SciFiFactory 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, so it is basically the normalized slope of a linear function? y=m*x with the slope [m]=[y/x] Then times x on both sides: y*x=m*x^2 On the left side would be the covariance, if you were to substitute it with (y-mu) and (x-mu). And then to normalize the units on both sides they are divided by something that has the same units as y*x. So here we use the standard deviations sy=sqrt(var(y)) and sx=sqrt(var(x)) .... But I am confused why it never gets bigger than the standard deviation? I mean, aren't like 32% of the samples out side of the standard deviation? So that in 32% of the cases you have something like (y-mu)>=sy , or in 5% of the cases you have something like (y-mu)>=2*sy ?
@kunstkt
@kunstkt 11 жыл бұрын
Towards the end you say that var(x)*var(y) is "the greatest possible way in which x and y can covary". What does that mean?
@diodin8587
@diodin8587 4 жыл бұрын
+1
@kunstkt
@kunstkt 4 жыл бұрын
@@diodin8587 corr=cov/sd(x)*sd(y). The strongest possible correlations are 1 and -1, and they correspond to covariances of sd(x)*sd(y) and -sd(x)*sd(y). He must have meant the square root of var(x)*var(y).
@sidekick3rida
@sidekick3rida Жыл бұрын
What does it mean to "plot a realization?"
@sophievanbeek7768
@sophievanbeek7768 5 жыл бұрын
This is helping me so much, thank you!
@TrangPham-cy5km
@TrangPham-cy5km 5 жыл бұрын
Sophie Van Beek i dont know how to identity the (+) or (-)of Y. Can you help me
@jfregnard
@jfregnard 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks !
@trent_tsu
@trent_tsu 2 жыл бұрын
thank u very much!
@MochitoMaker
@MochitoMaker 7 жыл бұрын
I don't get why in one case we have X>Mx and we get +++ and then we have the same equation with X>Mx and we get +- - What's the logic? Thanks.
@ugurgudelek
@ugurgudelek 5 жыл бұрын
X and Y dont have to be perfectly correlated. So, in some X>Mx cases, Y can be smaller than its mean.
@Banaan1985
@Banaan1985 8 жыл бұрын
Cheers dude. Helpful video
@Darius1295
@Darius1295 6 жыл бұрын
Important to point out that Covariance and Correlation can be zero even if the two variables are dependent.
@GEconomaster112
@GEconomaster112 5 ай бұрын
Giga chad, thanks!!
@nicholaschen5821
@nicholaschen5821 8 жыл бұрын
well, u said when P=1, it means X and Y are perfect positively related. Is that mean the gradian of the line is one or this just mean the points are in the same line and no matter the degree between the line and X-axis?
@SpartacanUsuals
@SpartacanUsuals 8 жыл бұрын
+Nicholas Chen Thanks for your comment - good question. If two variables are perfectly correlated then it means we can draw a perfectly straight line through samples from both variables. It doesn't require however, that the relationship is 1:1 between them. Essentially perfect correlation just means that we if we had one variable we could perfectly (ie with no error) predict the other variable. Does that make sense? Best, Ben
@nicholaschen5821
@nicholaschen5821 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that is a very helpful answer!!!
@ARM26878
@ARM26878 2 жыл бұрын
at 4:50 whats the intuition that the covariance of x,y can never exceed variance of x times variance of y" ? Thanks
@ARM26878
@ARM26878 2 жыл бұрын
probably you meant - the covariance of x,y can never exceed std dev of x times std dev of y" ? I'm still not sure about its intuition.
@nickpenacl_
@nickpenacl_ 8 жыл бұрын
question not related with topic ... which instrument (system) did you use for write in the board, will appreciate your explain
@piersanna8866
@piersanna8866 3 жыл бұрын
you say, if x is higher than its mean, then y tends to be also positive. But seconds later yous say if x is higher than its mean then the second parenthesis is likely to be negative. this doesn't make sense and is a contradiction.... could someone please explain????
@mohammadrezakhedmati7777
@mohammadrezakhedmati7777 3 жыл бұрын
He's talking about two different scenarios. In the first one, he assumes X and Y are positively correlated ( just like the first graph he drew) and in the second one he assumes these variables are negatively correlated (second graph). That's why the sign of the second parenthesis varies. You've probably figured this out by now, but I tried to give my explanation just in case someone else has the same question. Cheers!
@randomyoutubeaccount6906
@randomyoutubeaccount6906 4 жыл бұрын
I needed an example. What id Mew? and the expectation, is that the mean? also do we use the total of x and y anywhere? Sorry i'm bad at math and got lost in this video at the same point every time I watched.
@khazovaru9892
@khazovaru9892 6 жыл бұрын
Thank youuuuuuuuu 😘😘😘😘
@robertotosacanogalarza9021
@robertotosacanogalarza9021 4 жыл бұрын
Good!
@hugovreugdenhil
@hugovreugdenhil 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@pomegranate8593
@pomegranate8593 3 жыл бұрын
cheers lad
@magnusonx1
@magnusonx1 6 жыл бұрын
British accent....NICE ! ! ! Wishing all Yankees could have British accents
@SpartacanUsuals
@SpartacanUsuals 11 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your comment. Good question. Essentially what it means is that the maximum covariance between two random variables, X and Y, is given by when the two variables are the same. In this case the sqrt(var(x).var(x))=var(x). The proof of this depends on the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, and was a little too involved for me to post here. However, I have added it to my list of videos to do in the future. Best, Ben
@ARM26878
@ARM26878 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, have u gotten around to making that video? if yes could you please post the link? Thanks
@joannaqian7755
@joannaqian7755 Жыл бұрын
save my life
@hamzatarq7000
@hamzatarq7000 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@tastsolakis1519
@tastsolakis1519 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the explanation really good! Next time though please talk a little more clear!
@zip9267
@zip9267 4 жыл бұрын
help
@deedi9001
@deedi9001 4 жыл бұрын
The logic is fucking confusing
@ilhamkseibi6157
@ilhamkseibi6157 7 жыл бұрын
oh man, things with you sounds much more complicated, if you are trying to do something like khan academy, well you are not
@h-s7218
@h-s7218 Жыл бұрын
this video was just a piece of art ! thank you so much! well explained and really clear and smooth !
@bebla8381
@bebla8381 4 жыл бұрын
i want the fucking explanation for the formula, the intuitive reason of why it is what it is. why is that so hard to find? the ACTUAL intuitive explanation for the formula, every fucking video about covariance they show you the formula and thats it.. it makes me wonder if anyone actually understands where the formula truly comes from
@Skandawin78
@Skandawin78 6 жыл бұрын
very good explanation. thanks. what is colinearity?
@pkavenger9990
@pkavenger9990 Жыл бұрын
In future I think Universities will go obsolete. Any Government can pay experts to make a course and just upload it. Why burn your fuel and energy to get to a place and then spend so much energy coming back home to learn the same thing you can learn from just KZbin.
@utkarsh5667
@utkarsh5667 4 жыл бұрын
how did you prove that cov(X,Y)=0 implies there is no correlation between the random variables?
@krunkerdylan6146
@krunkerdylan6146 4 ай бұрын
cut out the 'sort of' 🤣such a brit!
@EOCmodernRS
@EOCmodernRS 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not looking for a formula, I'm looking for examples. I don't get the formula. In my head it says ''(E(x)-E(x))*(E(y)-E(y), which is 0. I don't get the formula....
@arunthashapiruthviraj2783
@arunthashapiruthviraj2783 3 жыл бұрын
Clear my doubt
@deepak2012able
@deepak2012able Жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@isabelchen3302
@isabelchen3302 Жыл бұрын
This is wonderful, thank you!
@shrijithr9345
@shrijithr9345 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me or point to me someplace where it's explained "How we 'know' that the covariance of x,y can never exceed variance of x times variance of y" ?
@ARM26878
@ARM26878 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same doubt. Did u find out the answer?
@antibioticsOfWorld
@antibioticsOfWorld 2 жыл бұрын
thank you !! i am doing masters in data science and it helped me to understand the basics properly
@sanathgunawardena832
@sanathgunawardena832 Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@shashikalaraju5769
@shashikalaraju5769 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect. You are amazing teacher. You inspire me. Thank you
@horizontaalschaalbaar9470
@horizontaalschaalbaar9470 6 жыл бұрын
Love the black background. For some unknown(?) reason, almost all programs use white backgrounds, which I hate because I don't want to be sitting in front of a big ball of light. Tip: there are great plugins to make webpages "dark".
@horizontaalschaalbaar9470
@horizontaalschaalbaar9470 6 жыл бұрын
I readded this comment because it was deleted. Why??? Strange things happen here... It even had likes gd!!!
@andrescheepers3223
@andrescheepers3223 4 жыл бұрын
really enjoys the word sort've...
@owenlie
@owenlie 3 жыл бұрын
Straight to the brain! Thank You!
@priyankpatel4041
@priyankpatel4041 6 жыл бұрын
can you give about jtc cross correlation detail
@waihinlee3899
@waihinlee3899 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very clear explanation.
@Stirner219
@Stirner219 6 жыл бұрын
It's really nice that you also explain the underlying logic of cov and cor. B/C doing without understanding is not much worth. Thanx :)
@christinating1340
@christinating1340 8 жыл бұрын
why use covariance when correlation can tell you the direction and strengh of a relationship in a standardized/comparable form? What does covariance give us that correlation does not?
@DmitriNesteruk
@DmitriNesteruk 8 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of places where covariance is used _in lieu_ of correlation. For example, in Modern Portfolio Theory we calculate the covariance matrix in order to be able to calculate the efficient frontier.
@myvoice8167
@myvoice8167 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir,You are such a good instructor.Great job!!!!!! May God Bless you and your loved ones..
@Josh54152
@Josh54152 9 жыл бұрын
This is very good, thank you for your help.
@hondopirat2735
@hondopirat2735 5 жыл бұрын
Super Catalin, très utile !
@henriquebenassi
@henriquebenassi 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@GK-qv3xd
@GK-qv3xd 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@GuglielmoRiva97
@GuglielmoRiva97 4 жыл бұрын
try saying "sort of" less often
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