Can An S-400 Be Beat?

[@CovertCabal]

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[@RAVIKULRAORA]

I was going to sleep and was thinking how the mini drones cab be beaten and I thought maybe equipping civilians with water guns will work , upon thinking this I immediately came to talk abou this in one of you comment sections and saw one of your vedios uploaded 3 minutes ago, damn , pls answers me What do u think about dealing small drones equipped with small warheads being dealt with water guns ??

[@steveshoemaker6347]

Thanks very much....!

[@the3rdmaster311]

the S400 used in the African lion exercise were located in Algeria the strongest pro Russian North African country

[@war8036]

Any system can be beat just depends on how many assets you are willing to loose in the process.

[@angeloicaro661]

How effective the CIWS and C-RAM in real combat

[@abhyudaysarkar5012]

KZbin at 2:15 am in morning: How can we beat s400? Me a office worker with no military ties at 2:15 am: Yeah , how?

[@kokits]

Haha..soinds extremely familiar

[@user-tb2jy9lu3d]

Me at 7:17pm after not getting enough sleep last night: "WTF are you doing in the office at 2:15am?"

[@vishal17935]

Indians work round the clock

[@orneryokinawan4529]

Me after doing bong hits and eating pizza all night.

[@jstriker623]

@@orneryokinawan4529 Hey now... why you gotta make everyone jealous? 😅. Ah, the good old days😞

[@Rokaize]

The problem with talking about engaging a system like the S400 is that it won’t just be alone in the middle of an open field. Itl have an entire network of smaller air defenses around it. Having short and medium anti air systems backing up the S400 make it significantly more dangerous as it’s much harder to directly attack.

[@TeddyKrimsony]

not to mention that there are missile tubes buried in the ground, ready to launch and you can't spot them until they launch

[@Rokaize]

@@TeddyKrimsony I didn’t know of any that are stored underground.

[@logicbomb5511]

Well like he pointed out their is a whole range of approaches to attacking the C400 which are also applicable to all those supporting elements which if they are busy turtling around the C400 to survive then they cant be covering the rushing by ground forces who will then have to also Turtle under air defense restricting their maneuver and strategic depth exposing them to all the Indirect mass fires he was showing at the end. This is to say nothing of the Entire network of supporting UAS and satellites supporting SEAD and the greater campaign. USAF has been using decoy Drone swarms in the 100s to overwhelm and spoof air defense sense the first Iraq war and probably long before, Azerbaijan replicated the tactic with Israeli help to great success against Russian air defense systems which you might have seen. Just spamming a bunch of cheap small loitering munitions that cost a fraction of even the cheaper Russian SAMs easily over whelm C400 and most of its support point defense.

[@AyOuB.God-soldier]

@Intel Guru the fixed batterys sam sistem of Russia are A135 an A235 and they use a nuclear head to intercept a ballistic nuclear missile

[@Rokaize]

@Intel Guru I wasnt aware of the fixed batteries. That’s interesting. And yes I’d say it’s much like attacking a strike group. The layered approach of defense can make things much more complicated. You’d have to juggle defeating the capabilities of multiple systems.

[@lonelycloud4773]

ATACMS, lol.

[@ivailobozhilov6179]

And here we are 1 year later- drones hitting moskva, storm shadows destroying bridges in crim, s400 is as good as the t14 armata

[@wyringen]

This week a missile hit a S400 😂

[@tygrenvoltaris4782]

6 days ago... An atgms destroyed two s400 or maybe more? wow

[@luvlymangos]

This week, a mig-29 with a HARM destroyed an S-400

[@MegaJuniorJones]

And sooooo many comments just stroking the S-400 as some god tier interception multi layered super defense 😂😂😂

[@zabintasrik4488]

Summarizing: Less effective, more risky methods: - using low flying jets - using radar jamming and attacking with aircraft - using two jets (very risky) More effective and less risky methods: - spawning close the site and pistol whipping the crew until they surrender. - sneaking up on the operators and reading bedtime stories so they'd be asleep when you actually attack.

[@Lalremruata-dd3ro]

The second one is the best

[@vasiliymedvedev1532]

Just overload it with uav until it's missiles end then destroy it simple as

[@AlwaysBeSmart674]

Just shoot a stinky fart at the s400 and the radars will malfunction

[@linusa2996]

Send a squad to take it out with RPG's, Javelins or C4.

[@unoriginalname4321]

Or just use ATACMS, short range ballistic missiles that were designed in the 1980s and built in the 90s. Once again, reality proves US cold war era tech >> modern ruzzian "tech" Edit: forgot to add "LOL!"

[@br2266]

"But first, our sponsor" I literally said it right when he said it, I think I'm being able to predict these videos so well now lol.

[@5777Whatup]

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[@simonshotter8960]

Also able to predict real good how far to skip on as well…

[@qqa6068]

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[@xXx_XIX]

I guess komandorstore can beat S-400

[@allenseeallendo5844]

This dude post so frequently the videos outpace my ability to watch them

[@ethicalhacker9720]

It’s possible. No system is 100% invincible.

[@bluearmy6847]

Anything is possible as long you know yourself and your enemies and what possibility in every scenario

[@raf5888]

@@bluearmy6847 No, You Are Wrong, Terrain and Unwanted Climatic Event Can Stop The Best Human Ever Created

[@ashleyoasis7948]

That goes for the F16 to

[@kristianxoto]

1 pantsir, one s-400, one tor etc, YES can be beat. thats why Israel beats Syrian defenses. but a Russian complete setup of AAS , no one can beat it. that would be like: 6 acusition radars, 4 targeting radars, 1 s-500 for ABM systems, 4 s-400's with each 1 radar of each type, 4 launchers etc. then 2-3 s-300 VM mobile versions, 4-5 Tor's, buk's, 5-6 Pantsirs and then Shulkas. all of these systems will be layered and you simply cant beat all those systems at one time and they protect each other in an onion layer.

[@Alex-jy5fo]

@Intel Guru a manned assault with no air support on a heavily guarded site deep inside unfriendly territory is not possible

[@MK742cz]

Hi, RF engineer there ... actually you put it wrong about antennas. Lower frequency is used for overvier radar due to longer range without need of narrow beam. Higher frequency tracking radar need array of several antennas to produce very narrow beam to overcome losses over distance and it is inherent phenomena of such array to produce side lobes due to periodical interence across the radiation pattern

[@marianandnorbert]

did you mean periodical interference? if not I don’t know what perifical interence means

[@TT-hd3zi]

@@marianandnorbert either way, what that means is that the way a radar ‘beam’ is formed on modern radars always produces sidelobes due to how the emitted energy waves interfere with each other. 7:12 the image at is incorrect, no phased array radar can produce such a beam shape without sidelobes. This image is for a laser which can direct 100% of its energy in one direction, not a radar.

[@SamtheIrishexan]

My head hurts haha

[@MK742cz]

@@marianandnorbert yeah. typo on phone :)

[@charlesdean9178]

My nose is bleeding!!

[@peterbruno657]

The only time US jets operated in areas defended by s400 systems was in Syria. Not a single target was eliminated by the SAM system. Russia has a long history of exaggerating it's military capabilities.

[@BH-dsk]

Also Russia taking down a US jet in Syria would end really badly for Russia, they are not that dumb.

[@omranmcmillan8778]

That's exactly what it is because we're seeing how well this S-400 system is working in real life battle situation. It's not doing well at all.

[@MegaJuniorJones]

@@BH-dskSyria operated them

[@_Matsimus_]

Im really glad you channel is going to kick mines ass! You absolutely deserve it and I love this channel! Keep it going man! I wanna see you hit 1 million subs! Keep it going brother! Best Regards, Matt

[@CovertCabal]

Haha thanks. I don't know if I can top your recent F-35 video though haha too funny

[@nighthawk2174]

Jamming is probably a core element of any attack on the system.

[@bluearmy6847]

Reflective light waves are also optional to lower your view on enemy radar, orbital satellite, electric surveillance, modern equipment, etc. All though you'll still be visible to the naked eye it's enough to keep your foes in the dark on your position.

[@simplicius11]

That was tried on a Slovak antique S-300 sometime in 200?. They were using ground based jammers (much more power than air based) and the conclusion was, no way. it was from some article in Jane's.

[@pok0000]

True. And maybe Turkey can give info on this system to its NATO allies!!

[@logicbomb5511]

@@simplicius11 He explain the nature of Jamming pretty clearly and nothing is impervious to jamming any more then to the laws of physics, jamming for that matter is gonna be pretty hairy in this age of small stealthy UAS, flying jammer drones infiltrating between sights are gonna really be wreaking havoc to say noting or their supporting swarm of other attack and recon drones doing hard kills and signals intel. Air deliver a bunch of cheap small stealthy anti radiation kamikaze drones to come in under the jamming and bunch of decoy target drones like happened to Armenia and iraq.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

I'd say everything: Jamming, counter-measures, saturation attacks, HARMs, multiple attack vectors, stealth, unguided bombs, artillery... You want everything you could possibly use.

[@nemanja162]

Any system can be overwhelmed. Problem is Russia has a layered air defense system. You never face just one S400 regiment and these regiments are protected by short and medium range systems. Not to mention their fighter aircaft operating in their air defense zone.

[@olegkosygin2993]

well, Armenia had a layered air defense system and Az expoited the gap between the layers. Bayraktar was too remote for the infra-red SAMs to engage, but its prop engine was too cold for the Osa and Tor radar-guided SAMs to lock onto. S-400 will be hit with things too fast for it to engage, too small or too cold to detect. Considering that Turkey has finalized its purchase of S-400, any country that relies on Russian air defenses and has conflict with any country that's supplied by Turkey is going to get bum-fucked.

[@JimCOsd55]

A layered air defense can be a problem but you don’t have to attack the entire air defense system to overcome it. In the Gulf War, the US put a Marine Amphibious group off the Kuwaiti coast. So Saddam put his most powerful units, the Republican Guards nearby to take them on. While the US sent 8 Apaches and 2 Paveway helicopters to attack the thin picket of radar stations that Saddam had put around his border. picked just one part of the radar system to attack, punching a hole thru its radar coverage for follow on jets to attack thru! With armor and troops attacking the Republican Guards from behind thru this gap. 20 years later with newer drones and stand off weapons an attack will be different with decoys and more advanced electronic warfare added to the mix!

[@aatifrehman4150]

@@olegkosygin2993 these drones have a huge radar cross section, they are slow and clumsy. Ur clearly exaggerating their impact on the battlefield.

[@olegkosygin2993]

@@aatifrehman4150 Bayraktar's radar cross-section is equivalent to that of a large bird. Tor-2M was unable to lock onto the drone despite being actively targeted.

[@olegkosygin2993]

@@JimCOsd55 I thought it was the other way around - Saddam put his best units to defend the north, and sent Medina division to reinforce the south when it became apparent that the main force is down there, and it got caught by Apaches during transit.

[@rhodium1096]

S-400 is part of an escalonate defense which included Pantsir, Buk M2/3, TorM2 AD missile to avoid low flight fighter jets!.....also included MIG 31 jets to intercept cruise missile...

[@Noname_NoID]

The thing is a little bit more complex. There is two AD systems in Russia (in fact it's a soviet legacy). The first one - Army (ground forces) AD (S-300V, Buk, Tor, Tunguska etc.). The purpose - protect ground forces no matter where they are, AD will follow them everywhere. The second one - Air and Space force AD (S-400/S-300PM, Vityaz/S-300P, Pantsir-S). The purpose - protect valuable objects (bases, cities, industrial objects). In fact, these are two parallel structures with own equipment, created to meet specific requirements. Just compare S-300V and S-300PS/S-300PT.

[@simonm1447]

At the end a huge effort just to protect one site - for another site they need exactly the same a second time. To force them to do this you just need a couple of stealthy aircraft, which are not stationary but mobile and can be used around the globe. The money they spend on this stationary air defense systems is lacking somewhere else, since the air defense systems are only defense systems they can't spend the money on offensive systems, and countries like the US have reached their goal without firing a single shot

[@henrylima6974]

@@simonm1447 russia has spent very little money compared to the u.s yet they have very formidable systems. Maybe the have secret anti stealth radars. Most likley they allready do.

[@simonm1447]

@@henrylima6974 They spent not that much money, because their defense budget is relatively small at all. A lot of their weapons system are relatively old, they may have much stuff but a lot is still soviet era stuff. Their most formidable systems are nuclear, but this are weapons of the last choice. In behalf of the stealth radar, it seems you haven't understood how stealth works. Stealth don't mean they are invisible - it reduces the RCS to reduce the detection range of the radar. A stealth aircraft can fly closer to the radar, and attack it with anti radar missiles from a closer range than a conventional aircraft. Stealth coatings are not really effective against low frequencies, so a radar with low frequencies can detect an stealth aircraft sooner or later. Radars with low frequencies however are relatively inaccurate, and not usable as a fire control radar. A fire control radar needs high frequencies and short wavelengths, but in this spectrum the stealth coatings are relatively effective. So even if you know it's something there, you can't attack it successfully because you can't track it with the fire control radar. Russia itself is investing in stealth aircraft, also China and Europe. There's no superior radar in sight which would make stealth unnecessary, the advantage can become less over time but it won't vanish.

[@henrylima6974]

@@simonm1447 I mean new radar technology to detect stealth, russia has some of the best weapons with there low budget. They are the first with hypersonic missiles and glide vehicles, they are not weak by any means. Remember u.s was in afghanistan for 20 yrs fighting cavemen with ak47's and they end up handing kabul to the taliban. Russia and U.S are advanced and a war between them will have no winner

[@greattribulation1388]

Turns out, yes, yes it can be beat. By almost everything.

[@MegaJuniorJones]

Hahaha turns out 98% of Russian weapons are fake and over stated!

[@behroozkhaleghirad]

Covert Cabal (describing American approach to air defense): "Interceptor aircraft just work so much better" Mig 31: AM I JOKE TO YOU

[@annelisemeier283]

Yes, because after actually reaching full interception speed the engines just commit sudoku

[@ArgosySpecOps]

@@annelisemeier283 I think you your auto correct did you dirty. It's seppuku not sodoku 😅.

[@annelisemeier283]

ArgosySpecOps nah that was on purpose. I couldn’t come up with a witty russian-sounding remark for suicide so I just went with sudoku.

[@HOOLIGAN077]

And where the hell are the pantsir SRSAM which is also an integral part of a s400 regiment.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

@@ArgosySpecOps "commit sudoku" is internet lingo. Same as purposefully screaming "Bonsai!" as a joke.

[@richardpatton2502]

Remember, Many of these systems, components and upgrades are absolutely confidential. As well as the western systems designed to counter them Also, A Russian s-400, used and assembled by Russian forces will undoubtably be better than the ones sold overseas All the best to everyone

[@panderson9561]

Didn't they call them "monkey machines" or something like that?

[@tinydestroyer4672]

yeah and i dont know why but people always seem to forget that russia also has a airforce and over the horizon radar that could detect us carriers and refuling aircraft so i think it would be hard to get the jump on them and you would just end up fighting su-30s and s-400s or something which would not go well as the f-35s would be full of bombs instead of missiles...

[@annelisemeier283]

John Smith oh you mean the SHORADs that have been shown to get dabbed on by low to mid tier prop driven drones?

[@cedriceric9730]

@John Smith hey, you left out American rocket artillery which due to inf violation can low reach any range it wishes 🤣 That's infact what America is planning to use

[@kosovoisserbia8937]

@@cedriceric9730 easy job for buk pantsir and Tor

[@mbc6008]

That was one of the best videos I’ve seen detailing air defence.

[@trumanhw]

Why would anyone worry about the mere 200 million our jets can cost or a pilots life..? Joe Talibiden just gave NEW latest gen NVG + $85 BILLION in weapons + PALLETS of $$ HERE'S THE LIST of what the TALIBIDEN ADMIN (& Blinken) LEFT IN AFGHANISTAN! 22k Humvees 155 MRAPs 42k Trucks 64k Machine guns (Sure, the M249 and M240, but also? The M2) 16k Night vision goggles ... because we -totally- owned! the night. 8k Trucks 33 Mi-17 helicopters 33 Blackhawks 4 C-130 transport plane ( $7 MILLION ea) 23 Embraer Tucano (propeller tactical FIGHTER) 29 Cessna 75k 'war vehicles' ..? 50k Tactical vehicles 1k Mine resistant vehicles 600k M-4 FULL AUTO rifles laser aiming AND scopes 25k Grenade launchers But wait ... THAT'S NOT ALL! The Taliban ASKED !!!! the State Dept / Tali-BIDEN if we wanted them to WAIT OUTSIDE of Kabul or provide security ... we ... ASKED THE TALIBAN to provide security at the checkpoints (total contravention of the Trumpian deal made) ... which we then were treating as the "HEAD OF SECURITY" as ...? A guy we'd had a $5-million BOUNTY on for 10 years now for ..? TERRORISM That sounds bad, but it's not. At least not in comparison. We KNEW about the attack coming. Which sounds bad..? But it's not (in comparison). We knew WHICH GATE it was going to be at. Which sounds bad but ... (you get the point). not yet. We did NOT TELL THE FUCKING MARINES ON THE GROUND THERE!!! Oh -- did I mention..? We didn't just leave weapons that WILL BE USED TO KILL AMERICANS. Weapons that YOU & at least your fucking DOG would be shot if you possessed, here. We left PALLETS OF CASH THERE, TOO. Because that probably won't fund terrorism? And so, now? This administration is considering giving "foreign AID money" to ... the Taliban. Because we then wouldn't be cutting out the Iranian middle men who previously probably took a cut of the money Obama gave to them to fund terrorists with. Here, we know they get 100%. We went there to be rid of OBL. We armed the nation, made them resentful for a generation ... betrayed everyone who worked with us, And then..? Left PILES OF CASH for anything we didn't already leave.

[@RT-fq3tp]

@@trumanhw while true has nothing to do with an s400 system.

[@leedex]

But you can’t find one single live video, where S-400 is intercepting a missile or an air plane. Take a look at Israel’s Iron Dome. It has intercepted over thousands of incoming strikes from Gaza and you can find plenty of live videos.

[@OneOfThoseTypes]

Yes, very easily it turns out.

[@steadyjumper3547]

Ukraine’s helicopter pilots- well sure as hell try!

[@RAKITHA9]

The weakest link will be the operators - 1 - Guy forgets to arm the radar from standby 2 - passed out/sleeping 3 - misidentifies target as friendly

[@adityawicaksono875]

Or have too much vodka party 😂

[@zeblanmaidaynovich796]

It can only be on YT when millions of western brainless trolls whine and cry about it under Hollywood special effects fake flick😂😃😆reality fact

[@scottrevell2706]

Add in Vodka 😂

[@pilanimlala4104]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lhopski1503]

Another cracking video. This is why i rate this channel so highly above the mountain of poorer quality so called 'analysis videos' ! Keep up the good work

[@khangusdong9723]

Well you can't rate it that much more higher than the robut voice channels, you got 3 choices, good, bad, and average. I thought this video was good so I gave it a thumbs up

[@militaryanalysis5028]

And i took that personal

[@dfsdfsdsfsdfsdfs6694]

"analysis" - yea, sure. meanwhile in the video a defensive weapon posed as a threat.

[@militaryanalysis5028]

@@dfsdfsdsfsdfsdfs6694 What?

[@dfsdfsdsfsdfsdfs6694]

@@militaryanalysis5028 LOl

[@highwayman6805]

“...no S-400 has ever been used in combat.” And yet they are held in such amazingly high regard.

[@logicbomb5511]

By Keyboard warriors, gamers and Ruskie/soviet fan boys maybe do

[@michaelfried3123]

My bet is someday soon we'll see Israeli pilots clown show these S400 systems...

[@lape2002]

@@logicbomb5511 same goes for F-35/F-22 fanboys. Well most US military is heavily promoted by Hollywood and keyboard fanboys anyways

[@Andrea-1998]

@@lape2002 The difference is that F-35’s and F-22’s have experienced combat, S-400’s have not.

[@rhodium1096]

S-400 have been tested using simulate attacks with cruise missile and air to ground supersonic missile!...do you think that China, India and Turkey are stupid?...

[@MrEddieLomax]

Literally just watched a video of a S400 battery where the guys were laughing as a couple of storm shadow/scalp missiles screamed overhead, they seemed helpless...

[@COI-O3]

Hello I am from the distant future of 2024 The s-400 can in fact be beat, a lot

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Basing your military tactics on "Oh, yeah, that's trash, it can't be as good as our own stuff. It's all propaganda." Is the surest way to be surprised and chronically under-prepared. Real militaries leave that way of thinking to the keyboard generals.

[@nategray4989]

Lmaooo

[@92HazelMocha]

You have no idea how true that statement is. Or maybe you do.

[@bramha9680]

Exactly

[@dirckthedork-knight1201]

This!!

[@herptek]

Especially that is dangerous attitude if it is accompanied by a lack of concern about how to actually deal with the enemy even if it may be weaker than thought in some way. An underestimated enemy has an unnecessary advantage.

[@shatteredstar2149]

Drone swarm, doesn't have to be armed, just have to mask the real threat on the enemy radar, same concept as MIRV and decoys

[@uroskostic8570]

Russians have various electronic warfare systems that are specifically designed to disable drones.

[@ghosta8116]

Pansirs would take care of those....s400 is always protected by battery of pantsir-1

[@shatteredstar2149]

Electronic countermeasure aren't the be all end all system, long range they suck and work the best at close range however that also mean the real threat would be closer too, and pantsir can be overwhelmed like in Syria. Russian ECM screw with the signals of drones, one way to go around that is a computer with pre program missions, it won't get any data from any other sources but its computer. Not very flexible but would get the job done targeting a known SAM site. Or you could go really fancy and put an AI in each drone, but we already have decoy missile, just have to dedicate a large number for this type of mission.

[@demun6065]

@@ghosta8116 would they, though? On paper all these Russian AA systems are perfect. But like he said in the video, and as Israel proved in Syria, it's pretty easy to destroy these things (Pantsir). They'd probably be more effective if they were automated, like some of the American systems are.

[@annelisemeier283]

Ghost A Pansirs have very recent footage of getting blown to smithereens by non-western drones tho

[@sparkywu905]

Well, it's quite simple actually, if you throw enough stuff at it, eventually, something will hit. just make sure what you throw is cheaper than the S400.

[@vishal17935]

Smort

[@Globalscanningeyes]

with the buk and pantshir it will be difficult

[@damonstr]

Why does it have to be cheaper? If the site is destroyed, then the location it is protecting is exposed to attack.

[@cedriceric9730]

@@Globalscanningeyes if they can shoot down American prsm rocket artillery then fine Because that's what America says it will use

[@mabhodlelajj1195]

Decoys are cheaper I'm sure ...

[@deven6518]

You forget that interceptors can only independently track a target at a relatively short range. Air defense radars are also overlapped and can receive returns from another radar system. Hiding from one will make you visible to another. Also, when a search radar picks up a contact, the targeting radar will lock on so there is no would be no use to that. There is the issue with electronic jamming in that the radar return is near impossible to fake unless you happen to be sitting right there in the truck. Attacking from multiple directions is also an issue. Not only would another installation catch you, a search radar is able to do the long range navigation as well. The attack radar (high frequency radar) is only 100% necessary if it's a missile without onboard guidance. If it is a missile with terminal guidance, then the low frequency radar can get it within a few 10's of kilometers where it will do it's thing. It is pointed out that the system can engage multiple targets from multiple directions and considering there are different missiles, I have no reason to doubt.The detection range you pointed out is not quite accurate and many other issues with your strategies. Unfortunately, getting around the s400 or any comprehensive radar network is a task, even for a stealth aircraft. Remember how stealth works. That rcs is the lowest radar return assuming that you are facing directly at the radar system and presenting your least observable features. But radar waves are mostly deflected rather than absorbed and any other system on the area will put some heat on you. Moral of the story, it's never a good m day to be an attacking pilot.

[@_.-._.-._.-._.-]

Too many stand-off weapons nowadays to be an emitting radar on a battlefield.

[@Davethreshold]

Good post Dude! These defense sites have one thing other YT channels don't: Knowledgeable people!

[@_.-._.-._.-._.-]

IADs tend to have been the first thing destroyed in the opening hours of a conflict though. Any emitting radars don't tend to last long.

[@izhamsham843]

@@_.-._.-._.-._.- Hence the existence of mobile radars & hidden radar sites, all providing auxiliary support should the main & known radars be destroyed. Afterwards it will be much more difficult to take them out.

[@_.-._.-._.-._.-]

@@izhamsham843 Plus over the air communications and data emitters tend to get taken out with prejudice, along with any IADS radar emitters. Which forces communications for the IADS to mostly occur via landlines, which are also vulnerable to stand-off weapons and tend to be taken out at the start of a SEAD or DEAD campaign in order to force them back into emitting OTA in order to be integrated. It's not a fun time to be an air defense system operator - everything wants to kill you and unmanned aircraft and loitering munitions usually mean a pointless death by operators to try and fire upon.

[@Crooked_Clown]

Almost always Russian equipment look better on paper. But when they're exposed to actual conflicts they fail to perform as intended.

[@cg3.0_slowburning2]

Russia has a overlapping air defense you can't simply fly around them.

[@jvlivscaesar]

Every site that has s-400 has tiered air defense system deployed

[@mikael5938]

this vidio was not good. agree. and they work with interceptors long and closerange ones

[@cedriceric9730]

Yes you can, it's not a physical wall

[@ultraman5168]

Not only can you fly around them, but to a degree you can fly through them. Missiles have a no-escape area that is smaller than their maximum range, so even when air defense is operating at full effectiveness they are still somewhat 'porous'. The enemy must enter the defense area for the missiles to be most successful.

[@cedriceric9730]

@@ultraman5168 yes , america did so in Vietnam , there is always a choice to engage or not engage the sam That's why mobile Sam's are dangerous , if they pop up unexpected you can't escape them but once located , You can find the gaps easily

[@damonstr]

Don't forget that a stealthy aircraft also makes its own jamming much more effective (like 100x). In a recent exercise, 4x F-35 protected 4x F-16 with their jamming when attacking a simulated SAM.

[@quinndenver4075]

@linkzable what?

[@damonstr]

@linkzable jamming does not have to be a Vietnam style barrage that floods frequencies... even the video shows how deception jamming might work.

[@1977Yakko]

Decoys seem the way to go. Way cheaper than trying to saturate the SAM site with large numbers of expensive ordinance. Just so long as the decoy perfectly mimics the actual ordinance so the system doesn't know to ignore them and focus on the actual threat.

[@ultraman5168]

MALD is a very scary machine once you understand it's purpose.

[@UpfulWarrior]

Pantsir-S3E is made for protection of S-400, and Russian AA systems tactical doctrine is the formation of a ring - Pantsir protects S-400, BUK Viking protects the wider surrounding and S-400 aligned with NEBO-M watches everything and shoots on 300+ km. If something slips by, they have 2 more rings to beat.

[@indiandefensearena905]

I see one problem with this solution, s400 will also have short range air defence system with them like tunguska or strella that has their own radar to engage so if a missile is thrown at s400 from short range it will be handled by them and s400 will keep focusing on other targets.

[@lexburen5932]

yepm the russian army has a lot of medium/short air to air systems. wich are designed to shoot down missiles. S400 will be used for shooting down aircraft and ICBM's wich it is also capable of

[@joshc.1871]

@@lexburen5932 and your enemies will continue to leave the ICBM, airplanes, and missiles on the ground while sending in cheap Turkish and Israeli drones to destroy them. As has already been proven. But sure I enjoy all you KZbinrs and your "vast" amounts of knowledge on the subject. 🤣

[@JebacPresretac101]

@@joshc.1871 Fine, I'll wager one (max two) first generation mig 29 with short range missiles and cannon vs your "cheap" swarm of drones. As has already been proven.

[@mmccarthy9458]

Yes, S400 and S500 will operate in an integrated manner with Tor, Pantsir, and etc. in a hexagonal arrangement with some being 5 km away to 40 km from the main search and track radar and launchers.

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

@@JebacPresretac101 The MiG-29 has a pathetic combat record.

[@MaycroftCholmsky]

1:16 lmao the e-mail adress. Tells a lot about ad's target audience xD

[@dinodonut5776]

Dang. Could have used this video yesterday. Now I’m sitting in a Siberian prison.

[@milutinke]

S-400 is never going to be used alone, it will be used in coordination with Eelectronic Warfare systems, other SAM system like S-300, S-350, Pantsir, Tor, Buk and in the future S-500, and it will have aviation to cover it, at least in Russian service. So, good luck destroying it in a layered setting.

[@raf5888]

How This Sophisticated System Work is simple,,, you need to kill , pay me ,I can give you Hunting human permit , off season, if needed Time for you to seek another Hobbit, because we are coming for all of you ,,, DESTROYERS of the free world. Stop buying Lottery Tickets.

[@mikael5938]

exactly.

[@ThatCarGuy]

The s400 is just a renamed s300

[@nickhahn5412]

After the last two weeks, I think what you meant to say was good luck deploying it 😂

[@linusa2996]

The comment best given was by a guy who spent much of his Air Force career as a Wild Weasel who's philosophy was DEAD not SEAD. his comment was jets are not the only means to destroy a radar site

[@NoName-ds5uq]

I served as a RP(radar operator) in the Royal Australian Navy some decades ago, and this is the first time I’ve heard mention anywhere of side lobes since my training! You, sir, are a legend! Also, it looks like jamming has come a long way since then. It used to just look like a wedge of noise on the display, not random paints!

[@DjAkho]

"i found out the killer robots shut down after their killcounter hits a million so i just send wave after wave of my men until all the robots shut down"

[@thickboi4304]

No system is 100% If the s400 was 100% No plane would fly again

[@willbarnstead3194]

It would be interesting to see a video comparing western air defence systems. It seems that with the proliferation of cruise and ballistic missiles, especially in China, that saturation attacks are becoming more likely. The best defence for Guam or Okinawa would seem to be many shorter range but less expensive missiles. An analysis of what kind of air defence mix would work best would be a very interesting video.

[@92HazelMocha]

Western air defense is generally much less effective, because as noted in the video, in the west we rely on aircraft for air defense instead of surface based platforms.

[@Crashed131963]

@@92HazelMocha The West (Americas) has never been attack since 1812 by the British.. The US defence policy is the other country knowing they will be nuked off the planet if the attack the US mainland or properties. It's how "MAD" has prevented WW3 for 60 years and still does.

[@92HazelMocha]

@footballcoreano capable of making and has are two different things. Germany and the US have no such defenses now, Russia does. Everything beyond that is speculative.

[@Militavia]

I will do that when time comes. ;) If you wish to understand how works SAM and the "whys" you can do it here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKC8qaaCpriAoKs Sooner or later the channel will reach to S-300/400.

[@Crashed131963]

@@92HazelMocha When WW3 Starts no defence system will Keep ICBM warheads from coming down from orbit from doing their job. Russia has a GDP below Bazil and still thinks its a world player.

[@robertbreske6543]

I think we got our answer today after outing reportedly lost 12 high ranking officers after the s400 failed

[@joeldobbs7396]

Thank you for the well made and interesting vid, I really enjoyed it. And thanks for introducing me to your sponsor, they have a Canadian friendly site and I really appreciate that.

[@Hero007ization]

I am a Jet pilot and sorry to say, if you are locked by a S 400 system, simply eject.

[@jonathanbelanger6574]

What do you fly?

[@theclassifiedvideos7168]

Its a #PoorAssesment by the host. Why? For him saying that S-400 is stationary in a single location --- no! Its not! Its mobile and can be placed anywhere. Secondly, the host said, the engagement radar looking at one direction. Thereforth, it can be destroyed from its blindspot if attacked from both sides, front & back --- WRONG! Why? Do you think, in the real war, the #Russians will place only one engagement radar looking only at one side? Off course, theyre not stupid to do so. Ok Perhaps, they can place 3 or 4 engagement radars looking at every side. The host said, the s-400 can be attacked by a low flying fighter plane, another poor assesment. In the real war scenario, does he think that if war is drclared between the US and Russia, then the Russians will let any aircraft carrier get near to its positions? Off course, big NO NO! Since the S-400 can strike target from around 400 - 600 km away, then just before any US planes take into flight from its aircraft carrier will be met with s-400s, then the Russians fighter planes will have plenty of time to meet US airforces in the air. The host of this video is clearly lack the understanding of the basic in real war scenario

[@sitegopro3411]

😂

[@sitegopro3411]

@@theclassifiedvideos7168 The Western Single Point Perspective as always 😂they think they can just joke around and the later is going to sit and watch

[@theclassifiedvideos7168]

@@sitegopro3411 exactly! One-sided. The narrator of this video know nothing, literally nothing, zero, about the basics in a real war scenario.

[@ajr993]

Apparently it can be beat easily because it can't be supplied properly

[@akbeal]

Well this video sure didn't age well. An entire Russian airbase defended by S400s destroyed by Ukraine yesterday. Russia's air defense is pathetic and obsolete. I feel sorry for any countries that are depending on S400 or any of that other junk to protect themselves.

[@sdk4422]

The narrator sounds just like the guy from Danknet. It's probably one of the funniest channels on KZbin!!!!

[@1Learn2Swim3]

DankNet is criminally under sub'd lol. You're right they sound almost exactly alike!

[@Zara-T_780]

You’d never want to attack and sink admiral kuznitsov. It’s already doing that itself haha you’d just be helping them save time and money getting rid of it

[@addamrobin2]

I love all these "KZbin experts" They don't know the real world other than the internet

[@batman_2004]

Same as the so called reddit arm chair generals. 😂

[@dgthe3]

And I supposed you know the capabilities & vulnerabilities of the S400 far better than Covert Cabal does?

[@stoyanbalev184]

Let's not forget that there are other layers of air defense. No s400 will stay alone.

[@ivnislykun]

This. Ppl talk tough shit until their "tactically inserted" stealth jets or missiles get demolished by 30mm AA guns

[@dgthe3]

@@ivnislykun Who the hell is flying their F35s in at low altitude?

[@MrSarkardip]

This is a too simplistic video. 1.S400 is just a part of multi-layered air defence complex that is deployed to defend all strategic locations. S400 is just the outer layer ( till S500 take its place in coming years). It is backed up by S300( being replaced by S350) in the middle layer followed by TOR Bulk M3/M2 and Pantsir S1 at the closest range. They complement each other. How they co-ordinate with each other no one knows other than Russians. Its the most closely guarded secret. 2. Each S400 system has its own rudder set up. Multiple systems have multiple set ups to overcome the specific loop holes that you talk about. 3. Each air defence complex is backed up by extensive EW /ECM/ ECCM systems to blunt aggressor airforce rudder set up. Israelis have learnt it the hard way how effective such systems can be during their recent missile strikes on Syria. With russian help obviously, syrians have managed to neutralise 90% of the missiles and blunted the rest to miss their targets. Syrians have not even engaged their S300 because of agreement between Russia and Israel on its usage modalities. 4. All air defence networks are backed up by offensive ground based land and sea attack missile systems like Bal and Bastion coastal missile complex and Iskander missile complex to take out the launching platforms like carrier battle groups , enemy air fields. 5. Finally there would be air to air interceptors plus long rang ground attack bombers to complete the scenario. 6. This video would have made more sense had it used some other country using S400 as an example like China, Turkey, India who do not have such an integrated set up and the points made in the Video would have made more sense. Russia has the world's most comprehensive air defence network unmatched by any other country in the world including USA now and in foreseeable future ( China with Russian help is trying to develop something similar).

[@overlordgaming752]

The closest is actually Israel in terms of air defense, not the US. The point of the video is to take a complex matter and make it simpler for people who are new to the field to digest and understand, rather than bombard them with information they don’t understand. You don’t come to the level of understand your currently at by watching KZbin, which is what cobalts viewers typically do, their new/base level enthusiasts. If your interested in the complex fight that is trying to defeat a system like this I recommend hypo ops on KZbin, hes recently made two videos, one breaking down. A realistic simulation of methods both would be using to defend/attack, and then a more podcast like Long discussion on the subject. You’ll find a distinct lack of Russian ECM/EW involved in the S400 battery, I’m unsure of why based on the accuracy of that sim, and his other two. Regardless, I find the end being the same, just different overall losses for the same objective. I don’t see it flipping the tables. They will dive into that in the pod cast. Great show of how The Whole things really comes together for both sides

[@UptownDegree]

EW assets can help a bit but at the end of the day the only thing that tells you is how many birds are jamming you. The SAM radars still need to burn through the jamming in order to get a clear picture of the total strike package, not just the jammers.

[@joesmittington1207]

Well yeah its not a 2 hour military debrief on how to engage and eliminate an s400 emplacement. Its a 10 minutes fun little youtube video.

[@bikechainmic]

S400 is a weak link

[@preussenuberalles1682]

The only viable approach is saturation. When you finally destroy the S-400, you ran out of missiles to attack the main target. 🤣🤣🤣

[@BrokenMedic]

We need an update

[@chrisnolan7423]

Since the Ukraine war began 18 months ago we now know the s-400 is a good system but not all the Russians hyped it to be.while we are at it the supposed hypersonic missile Russia developed and claimed it could not be countered but the Patriot ,a 1990's interceptor was able to knock it out of the sky.

[@brentpierce7585]

Can S400 be beat? Yes

[@timblack33]

I don’t think they’re too concerned about defending the admiral Kuznetsov at this point. Except maybe the oil companies

[@acemax1124]

Any air system can be beat there not invincible. Saturation with : Standoff weapons, stealth weapons, hypersonic weapons, jamming weapons, decoy weapons, harm weapons or just like you said go around it.

[@mbr5742]

At least for the systems stationed in Russia there is a nice option: Nuclear warhead -close counts and the S300 had the option

[@roceye]

@@mbr5742 A interesting weapon might be a stand off glide cluster munition that deploys it's bomblets at longer range. No point defense can counter hundreds- or thousands- of bomblets.

[@deadsoulgamer4440]

use anti satellite missile destroy any type of navigation game over

[@taraswertelecki3786]

Any aircraft, drone or missile sent against surface to air missiles can be foiled or shot down too.

[@Bunderwahl]

Couple things to keep in mind, the first you did mention towards the end, they have not been used so all you are going on is guesses and what Russia -who hopes to sell them, say. Second in games, units or systems are roughly approximated at best. For the S 400 this is an approximation giving the games capabilities of an approximation. Another thing to keep in mind about games is that they often are more concerned about challenge and playability then recreating a perfect simulation of actual capabilities. Nobody wants to play a game that is WAY too easy or hard.

[@sebastiangorka200]

Answer: Yes, but it's gonna cost ya

[@mingkwong9277]

It can't even protect itself in Ukraine!!!!

[@stephen5174]

Looks like the Bayraktar, among other systems, seems to beat it.

[@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320]

We are finding now that its a highly overrated system. Cheap ass Turkish drones can beat it. Ukranian farmers can beat it. Russia is a paper tiger technologically

[@danepher]

@@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320 Ukranian farmers can steal it

[@NeuroScientician]

@@danepher ramming int with a tractor would do too :D

[@VisibilityFoggy]

Bayraktrars haven't taken out any S400s. Plenty of Pantsir/Tor/Buk and earlier variants, as well as artillery, however. I don't believe the S400 batteries (which are located on Russian soil over the border) have been targeted at all, in any capacity.

[@DOHA104p3]

@@VisibilityFoggy I personally think bayraktar and other drones could take out s400. Because drones are small and has a low radar cross section, I don't think the s400 can take out something that small

[@RealityCheck6969]

You beat it by launching an atacms missile on it. As it was proven in Ukraine multiple times.

[@frenstcht]

Now I'm picturing a B-2 dropping glide bombs like a flying fortress dropping bombs over Berlin.

[@sotilaskarkuri]

There are few things you forgot about Russian airdefence. They have a network of search radars around their key locations and usually close range AA systems like 2s6 Tunguska. it would be extrimely hard to get in range and unseen to destroy a S-400 system

[@prjndigo]

average aircraft doing wild weasel can carry 12 HARM... it isn't a question of whether the S400 can be beaten, it's a question of whether your enemy brought 24 targeting/tracking radar systems. S400 don't move very fast either

[@osslv]

With the rise of supersonic missiles, any defense systems, theirs and ours become pretty obsolete to a degree.

[@reactor4]

Cough Cough ATCAMS

[@sergeikarp2702]

joint air defense system, consisting of: ZRPK short-range "Pantsir-S1"; Short-range air defense missile system "Osa-AKM"; S-125 "Pechora-2M"; Medium-range air defense missile system "Buk-M2E"; Long-range air defense system S-200VE "Vega"; not just. S-400 Triumph.

[@kondaveetichinnarao5170]

Excellent information! Well explained!

[@steveosborne2297]

Well so far it seems that the S 400 has been vastly overrated and have been taken out by both HIMARS and HARMS missiles

[@simony2801]

If it’s Russian a sign saying bang will unfurl when it’s fired. Plus the wheels will fall off the lorry.

[@ravenmoon5111]

This assumes the Russian soldiers don’t run as soon as the FSB turns it’s back in them

[@TheKnockoutNerd]

I hope the s400 is as reliable as the rest of the Russia armed forces.

[@kolinmartz]

You mean like the ones they keep loosing in Ukraine?

[@TheKnockoutNerd]

@ That's pretty impressive, can you post a link to that story please?

[@DOHA104p3]

Ummm No s400 didn't shoot down an Ukrainian jet from 400 km It did from 150km which is pretty impressive but no air defense system can shoot down a moving target that is 400km away

[@TheKnockoutNerd]

@@DOHA104p3 Dude, you're forgetting how powerful Russia is. Their tanks can throw their turrets up to 500metres when hit by our ATGM's. I doubt our NATO tanks could launch themselves that far.

[@patlollavishwarathreddy7210]

I like your sense of humour

[@bikechainmic]

2 Years on into the ruosko /Ukraine war and the S400 has proved itself to be a pile of junk. The only think this out of date joke missile has hit is a couple of its own sides aircraft, the ground, a shopping mall and itself! ( Boomeranged back and took its own launcer out). So if anyone bought one of these, youve bought a lemon

[@jaypee389]

1,000,000 mini-tomahawks. Done.

[@Dullahan00]

"No S-400 has ever been used in combat" 6 months later I guess we get a real experience unfortunately.

[@Anti_Everything]

"This radar is very important" - shows the radar from the S-300 system.

[@Dude6978]

Ukraine: yes

[@Svip_dk]

Everything can be beaten , and then it is called supernova 😃💥

[@bluearmy6847]

No nukes, there are other options to this instead of full power lethal explosive! 1. Multiple anti-missiles in low altitude. 2. Fake missiles with high radar system. 2/3. (Coordinated offenses) Using different angles to strike the SAM simultaneously. 3. Stealth electronic technology/ tactics. 4. Long range equipment which gives off no signal. So many options and decisions that can be put into purpose, nuke only destroy everything and fighting a enemy with them mean death to the world.

[@bezahltersystemtroll5055]

Can the supernova be beaten tho 🤔

[@johnny_eth]

Well, to avoid the engagement radar, one could shoot many missiles, say 4. Some would circle the launch site and attack from the back while others would attack from the front.

[@Aaron-wq3jz]

Secret to cracking SAMs in CMNAO is low observability (stealth/ low flying) Jamming and overwhelming a site with missles. Basically what you said in this vid

[@henrylima6974]

That means all out war, and the u.s will get a bunch of planes blown up and ship's sank...thats when nukes come in. I dont think russia will be an easy win either, look at afghanistan after 20 yrs, and those were a whole bunch of caveman with ak's.

[@Aaron-wq3jz]

@@henrylima6974 I’m talking about the game he mention at the beginning

[@passivehouseaustralia4406]

I note a hell of a lot of comments about "beating the S-400" which is what the topic is, however its actually the wrong concept and modern warfare doctrine and terminology has caught up. We now talk about Access Denial. All systems can be defeated, so access denial is really about simply making attacking an enemy objective not worth the effort. If you look at the S-400 in this light, even if its actual combat performance is mediocre (not really known) its simple presence on the battlefield creates enough anxiety for enemy mission planners to consider their risks very carefully. IMHO In this way the system is pretty effective.

[@villavan]

It's not USA to make a fight over enemies anxiety bro. It's russia. If it's performance is mediocre why US indirectly threatens countries which opt to purchase s400

[@passivehouseaustralia4406]

@@villavan I said IF its performance is mediocre. Its performance is unknown in a real combat environment against a highly capable enemy in a highly jammed environment.

[@robertraman6307]

@@villavan 2 reasons. 1) Loyality towards allies. 2)The S400 might attack your own aircrafts in a conflict, by a set algorithm, it might not be able to shoot down Russian aircrafts in a conflict, it might have a backdoor for the Russian to access so they can control it, it might autonomously send reports and information to Russia. Because its completely made by Russia.

[@dgthe3]

@@passivehouseaustralia4406 Its effectiveness is mediocre in Ukraine, who has only a fraction of the SEAD/DEAD capabilities of the Americans.

[@r_rumenov]

USA: How can we beat the S-400? Russia: You really can't. Israeli F35 pilot: Sure we can, just buy the latest obscenely expensive stealth fighter jets from the US! Ukrainian helicopter pilots, flying questionably maintained Soviet-era choppers: hold my beer.

[@ClericChris]

Slow low flying drones like the switchblade will beat it all day. They aren't going to shoot a bunch of birds thinking they are drones.

[@lodickasvlajeckou]

That is when layered AA defence comes into play so basicly the larger S400 site is protected by many more smaller sites with BUKs, Pantsirs, Tors, and much more. And also Usually there are more of the sites around big targets making it even harder.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Buks are taken out by long range artillery and HIMARS as their lower range requires them to be closer to the front. Pantsirs can certainly do the job, but we have seen Russian crews themselves recording the Pantsir screen to show how they have a Storm Shadow locked but the lock keeps dropping so they can't shoot it down. So eventually something will slip through. The ATACMS seems able to come down at high enough speed to bypass Buks and Pantsirs.

[@Ukrainian.avenger]

Thank you for your awesome work!

[@VFPn96kQT]

2 helicopters can easily beat any air defense Russia has.

[@alexburke1899]

Yep because Russia can’t deconflict defensive anti air and shoot down their own planes too often. That’s why Ukraine could fly right in they probably have it turned off for their own pilot safety. Ukrainian pilots would probably see it wasn’t active or just flew low amongst the clutter. This is why they are terrible at SEAD too they can’t deconflict their own anti air from their targets.

[@hurikanyer1814]

No, because russians have something how stinger for it

[@ZDiddy7777]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA!!!!!! Today this looks like it mustve been an April Fools joke!!!! Hahahaha "Ooooooh NOOOOOO, the S-400 is invincible!!!" Yea, but only in the way that S- 500 was before it became a smoking heap.....

[@Dangus35]

Every time you plug kommandostore I end up blowing money. They fuckin rock.

[@rsbff4521]

Very informative, thanks

[@fohponomalama5065]

This video makes a good case for a Pre-emptive Attack strategy. The best Defense is a good Offense. It is better to take out your enemies’ offensive capabilities (ie. Aircraft Carriers, Ground Air Bases, ICBM Missile sites, SLBM) before they can launch their planes and missiles, because once launched, they can effectively overwhelm and defeat your SAM systems. America should prepare for and anticipate a Russian pre-emptive attack soon.

[@randomstuff5562]

What if someone is using multiple air defence systems just like India s400, then xrsam which has a range of 250km, then mrSam which has a range of 100km, then akash short range which has a range of 30km, in same place

[@dgthe3]

Sure, you can do that. And it does happen. The problem is that nobody has an infinite amount of systems. And so even if you can protect a handful of places with such a dense SAM network, other areas will be less protected. The less protected areas get hit, along with the SAM sites there, and now you have a dilemma. Either accept that you're going to keep losing that which is more lightly defended, or shift your assets around -reducing the protection of the highest value targets.

[@manofcultura]

Operators are a factor huh? There’s literally a “fuck everything in range” button on the S400 that even your basic infantryman can push, it’s a highly automated system when it needs to be.

[@krishnkant9477]

Any system has chances of failures but presently S-400 is the best air defence system and I'm happy that my country India has signed a deal to purchase 5 batteries of S-400 whose delivery will start from the end of 2021.

[@N1lav]

This video is set up on the premise that only *one* search and *one* target radar are part of a SAM battery. In practice, SAM batteries have more Radars and different locations. A certain city in my country is defended by 8 SAM batteries with 3 different types of missile systems. One battery that I spotted had 2 search Radars and 3 target Radars. All the sites around te city are reportedly linked together for better data processing and noise filteration. So in conclusion a well prepared, linked and positioned SAM battery systems are a huge threat which is the way most countries establish SAM batteries.

[@dgthe3]

The data linking is fairly easy to set up for a static emplacement. Much trickier for mobile units.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

what they need is a big data upgrade. this would slurp all the information from all sensors of all attacks to be analysed and improved on esp with regards to operator alertness. the pantsir attack when the guys were on a smoke break being one that comes to mind. so an AI operator would be a great addition to the capability of the system.

[@ClericChris]

I'm pretty sure an S-401 can beat it.

[@spartannerd1]

Overall good video. obviously, it is hard to simply a very complex topic because there are many factors to consider both for offense and defense. One thing to think about is that air defense systems are usually networked meaning they will have multiple radar stations that are linked to providing data and they won't be close together. This creates layers to help maximize defense of a target.

[@cgillit]

Currently seeing a lot of footage of Ukranian guided Turk Bayraktar drones doing insane damage on Russian convoys that would indicate yes .... yes the S-400 can be "beat".

[@mikeseal3053]

😆 Western media propaganda tho... Fake news

[@thehorsecockexpress1068]

@@mikeseal3053 lol I could link you to plenty of videos on shady websites showing Russian military hardware getting smacked in Ukraine, even shows the after effects of ruskies in a lot of different pieces haha. I seen on today of, a 4k video of a stinger smacking a Russian attack helicopter at 200ft then nose diving into the ground. Safe to say they needed to use dental records for identification. Or countless Russian tanks with the turrets blown off.. now that creates a erm a real mess

[@alexprokhorov407]

Well, if someone decides to attack one of those sites S-400 designed to protect, then there's much bigger problems later on than defeating S-400 alone. Basically it's a declaration of war. Most of this hardware is a deterrent, although a capable one. All modern conflicts are low level where one side always outgunnes another. So, those who possess S-400, who can actually afford, are less likely to be on the loosing side.

[@dgthe3]

Wait wait wait wait wait. Attack a military target is a declaration of war? Noooooooo. Do you think that maybe, juuuust maybe, a nation which is conducting such an attack is already aware that they're going to war?