Covid Vaccine Transplant List

Something to think about

[@evanshannon]

“I got Covid, I’m immune” *gets Covid a 2nd time* “I got Covid, I’m immune”

[@GabeGinorio]

Which test do we use to determine its COVID that is more than 30% accurate? Which vaccine protects against Omicron again? The Pfizer CEO said his didn't. Are you referring to another?

[@jakefisher5885]

I'm vaccinated oh I got covid it doesn't matter if you're vaccinated or not you can still catch covid. The vaccine does nothing for protection

[@rationallyruby]

@@GabeGinorio dude what test are you taking that’s 30% accurate? The lowest I’ve ever seen for home tests is like 75% and the average is like 85%-99% sounds like you’re just buying shitty Covid tests… or you could just get a PCR one, for free… which is 99.99999% accurate.

[@KN-oc7cu]

@@jakefisher5885 well the vaccine acts the exact same way as catching covid, but without actually making you transmittable, internal organ damage and in almost all cases mild side effects at most.. So you have equal protection as you would have if you got covid once, but with statistically negligible risks. What DOES do literally nothing as prevention is... Well doing nothing, ie not taking the vaccine. Especially for people who also choose not to wear masks. So if the rate of infection after a vaccine is the same as the rate of infection after getting covid, why would you not get the vaccine when it is safer and is not contagious to those around you?

[@thecurrentthing499]

@@KN-oc7cu for most people this is true although even if I hadn't been infected prior to vaccines being available I probably would not have gotten vaccinated because I actually believe that the vaccine's potential side affects are likely to be more concerning/likely than catching covid's potential side effects (ex: myocarditis) I'm male 25 healthy

[@alexenz1709]

“… start you on dialysis.” “That’s fine just make me better doc.” I’ve got some bad news for you buddy LOL

[@DropkickSuplex]

What happens with dialysis?

[@alexenz1709]

@@DropkickSuplex He will be spending several hours at a dialysis center multiple days a week for the rest of his life. Someone wanting to be made better with the least amount of work on his part will be due for a pretty severe reality check

[@matthewthiesen6098]

@@DropkickSuplex it's an extremely stressful existence. I have a family member who is on dialysis, effectively the result of poor choices, and she struggles every day. It's sad, but the treatment is the only way to live now.

[@DropkickSuplex]

Thank you for the response

[@kainener703]

@@DropkickSuplex I know you already got a reply but I just want to add that dialysis is the only treatment for liver/kidneys conditions like that, and it’s not a cure, it just reduces symptoms and keeps you alive. The only solution is a transplant or like this guy said, it’s many hours of treatment every week for the rest of your life.

[@Odyssey1516]

We had a debate about this subject in Year 12/Junior Biology the other day. There was a lot of yelling.

[@kajekage9410]

Antivaxxers are dumb af.

[@nosuchthing8]

Lots of foolish people in your class. Covid evolves around any immunity from disease. Adding more covid shots stops that.

[@Flippy-hl2we]

"start you on dialysis" "That's fine doc just make me better" Sorry buddy dialysis is not easy at all. There are so restrictions and rules. I do PD so it's an every single night thing. I cramp all night long. I get maybe an hour of sleep. I feel sick all the time. I've been trying for over a year to get on the transplant list, but they want me to lose more weight. It's extremely hard to lose weight while on PD. PD fluid has sugar and calories in it. It's like consuming a meal throughout the night. I get blood work every other week. It's not fun.

[@urfuneral]

i wish you the best

[@cabotmathiasen2962]

Follow up, how are you now?

[@andrewsang4688]

My dad has this kind of mentality. The "don't fix it unless it's broken" kind of thinking works great, until something breaks horrifically and it takes a huge amount of effort to fix it, or may not even be possible to.

[@vividdawn913]

I asked for a transplant years ago. Told I wasn't sick enough. Well, last year they finally evaluated me, and guess what? Now I'm too sick (too weak and frail to survive recovery, or even the surgery itself) 🙄

[@user-hm9uq8gk5x]

It's funny how people don't trust the medical system until they finally have covid themselves

[@scarlettefoxx5585]

That the thing, in all aspects of life things will break. And you will have to choose which method you'll use for each one. Prevention measures, or fix it when broken? And healthcare should always be in the Prevention category

[@WeastCoastGal]

Are we… sisters??

[@graeson3317]

My dad's thing is the opposite " yeah grab the duct tape we gotta be extra safe" he will constantly check and fix/update things before we hit that catastrophic point.

[@Bynx08]

"You could get hit by a car tomorrow" Ya, doesn't mean I'm gonna go play chicken with cars on the freeway

[@missmurda90]

But you are willing to play with your life and inject yourself with an experimental gene therapy that has no science regarding long term side effects?

[@sophiebell4758]

@@missmurda90 Its Not Like that vaccine is conpletely different than the Others we have. And u rather have a new decease With unknown Side effects and Long Term affects? All studys at the Moment Show that the vaccine is Safer than covid.

[@lukescheffe9851]

​@@missmurda90 Explain experimental. As opposed to which other experiment? Everything is still experimental, and always will be. You're just afraid of science because you saw the start of the experiment. The flu vaccine is developed in substantially less time, with substantially fewer researchers, and substantially lower test group size. But because they aren't sharing all the information about it, as it's developed, you aren't afraid of it.

[@missmurda90]

@@lukescheffe9851 It's experimental because there are no long term studies yet. You are all willing guinea pigs if you get vaccinated. I'm not scared, I am informed on the science. If you are getting your info from mainstream media, you are the scared one not following science, a slave to paid propaganda.

[@hayasheeeesh]

@@missmurda90 Coronavirus has existed for decades in milder forms. That's how they made vaccines so quickly. It is by no means experimental.

[@Beginningtopeak]

Now do one of a vaccinated person asking this doctor how they caught Covid if they’re vaccinated

[@Princes_Luna]

The vaccine doesn’t guarantee not getting just making it of lesser viral charge

[@nosuchthing8]

It's super rare for a fully vaccinated healthy person to get a series case of covjd.

[@austinclark3809]

​@nosuchthing8 it's also super rare for a non vaccinated person to get a serious covid infection

[@Sarge92]

@@nosuchthing8 im not antivax and i have had that vaccine and no its not rare its pretty common i actually know more of my vacinated freinds who all caught covid than vaccinated freinds who didnt and given the nature of how the vaccine was developed ive no idea how they could confidently have ever made that claim with so little time

[@Sarge92]

@@austinclark3809 explain every single person who caught covid before the vaccine and all ended up in hospital on ventilators

[@Githrog]

"gets the vaccine, gets covid a third time"....

[@vistry2036]

"You could get hit by a car and die tomorrow!" "What?" "Yeah, it could be a bright blue ford f-150. License plate HSL5781." "Excuse me?" "Yeah doc. So why dont you give me your kidney since you wont need it very long. Also where are my keys?" That's how i thought that was gonna go

[@alicial1239]

Good one!

[@Science__Politics]

That's where this stupid country is going. Bunch of crazy & cowardly people out there with a lot of guns. They won't listen to reason or logic or sense. It's no wonder that the same people that are anti-vax, are the same people that storm the Capitol building

[@navaskyy7764]

@@Science__Politics bc its better to intimidate the government 'taking away' your 'rights' by destroying and looting from your own neighborhood...

[@pride2184]

@@Science__Politics what logic? You are more likely to die in a car accident then covid? Covid rates arent at all scary. "If you sacrafice freedom for security then you dont deserve either"

[@oligarch5903]

@@pride2184 That's the thing, Americans haven't been getting freedom OR security and yet people act like now things are only going to venture downhill.. things changed a long time ago

[@adriel2422]

You know the saying, "what doesn't kill you makes you paraplegic"

[@a.humanbeing8171]

What doesn't kill you circles back and makes another run at it. If it's Covid, then if it doesn't kill you it may leave you ventilator dependant. Or dialysis dependant. Or give you Long Covid with such strange and terrible neurological problems that the risk of suicide is astronomically increased. Oh yes, Covid has a whole lot more in its bag of tricks that just death... Two years post Covid infection at age 51, very thin, best physical condition of my life. Now heart failure, pulmonary hypertension, severe neuropathy, more. Edited spelling- the spellchecker is not my friend.

[@bodyofhope]

@@a.humanbeing8171 I'm so sorry! That is awful. As someone with lifelong chronic disease, heart disease and neuropathic pain, I absolutely hate how Covid is causing long term chronic illness. Keep taking it one day at a time. You're much stronger than you realize, my friend 💪❤

[@rbitrary]

My aunt's a psychologist specializing in ptsd and she always says "what doesn't kill you... doesn't kill you"

[@NikoBellaKhouf2]

Like the vaccine

[@cenfer9962]

@@NikoBellaKhouf2 everyone I know that has been vaccinated hasn’t been sick since and side effects lasted about 2 days at most. Meanwhile those who have had covid months ago are still recovering

[@caseys8481]

For the first time in history the ineffectiveness of a "prevention" medicine is blamed on those who didn't take it

[@davemarsteller8377]

Wow... Why in the hell would you not take this vaccine? I mean if you are a liberal you would have reason because Trump created the process for the vaccine development and he is a corrupt pedophile. So.. I would get that... But most folks who behave like this are Trumpsters... So they don't believe their own guy... Really pathetic.

[@jd5393]

This guy is forgetting something. You can still get it multiple times even if you're vaccinated. I know more people that have gotten it while vaccinated, than not.

[@jamesbenz3228]

Yeah but it mitigates symptoms when you get it. Some viruses mutate rapidly like covid and influenza. That's why there's a new flu vaccine every year. Ive gotten the flu with and without the vaccine and without was much worse and took much longer to clear. Since covid is new it is rapidly mutating, that's why booster shots are coming out to deal with new variants. If you get the vaccine you mitigates your symptoms and reduce the time to clear the infection. That's good because it reduced the amount of time you can transmit to other folks that may be immunocompromised.

[@jtkane317]

And? I know people who have been in multiple car crashes with minimal wounds whereas I've been the one doing part of the exam to pronounce somebody after getting in their first wreck. The difference was seatbelts and functioning airbags. Vaccinated people generally have a more organized immune response on initial infection after fully vaccinated. They also often demonstrate an ability to be engaged in their own healthcare in a meaningful way. Both of those things together make them a better bet for an organ transplant.

[@noobnamed8924]

I know it’s unfair but I worked with people in dialysis units. The amount of people who get a new liver or kidney and are back on the dialysis again weeks later due to abusing alcohol is upsetting. Especially when you see other people die waiting for it. People who would have taken better care of it.

[@bamboo_shoot9262]

It’s really tragic to hear about this. I’m sure it hasn’t gotten any better with people not being responsible with Covid.

[@albertosaenz]

They should make them sing a contract, if you dont take care of the organ we will remove it for another patient.

[@estbgti424]

@@albertosaenz So many reasons why that's a dumb suggestion

[@arowace498]

@@albertosaenz unfortunately, I don't think it would work if they tried to retransplant. Also such a system has great potential for being abused. As it is the goal of medical treatment is to care for humans. Humans are always going to be imperfect and act in irrational ways. On the bright side I heard that there was a successful transplant of a pigs heart... or was it a liver? if we can create a larger stock of transplant organs it would go a long way.

[@rudrasingh6354]

@@arowace498 in the future hopefully CRISPR and Stem cell based bio printed organs would replace the need for donors. Should be better accepted by the body too, cuz they'd be made of the patients DNA

[@tcort]

The last lines hit hard. doc: *medical jargon*, patient: yes, do whatever it takes. They trust you to make them better if they get sick but they don't trust you to keep them from getting sick in the first place.

[@MortishaPoppins]

Nor should they. The great majority of physicians know nothing about wellness, their education is funded by the pharmaceutical industry. They only know what pills to prescribe to mask or suppress the symptoms.

[@tcort]

@@MortishaPoppins that's not true. please stop spreading misinformation.

[@RalphSampson...]

@@tcort There is a LOT of truth in that. Think about this, "50% of doctors graduated in the lower half of their class".

[@carrieeubanks5054]

@@tcort That is actually very accurate. Doctors are ruled by the pharmaceutical companies. The FDA, CDC, NIH and NIAD are all controlled by pharmaceutical companies. That is the reason the population has high rate of opioid drug dependency. Functional Medicine is a growing field in medecine because of the negative effects of doctors mass prescribing medications that cause serious and deadly medical conditions. Blood pressure meds cause type 2 diabetes, antibiotics cause resistance and digestive issues, acid reflux can cause cancer, pain meds cause more pain, benzos lead to debilitating dependency, etc...

[@VanquishR]

@@carrieeubanks5054 On the opposite spectrum, there are people that come to a clinic and demand that the doctor prescribe them drugs. It’s a twofold issue, and not something that can be fixed overnight. We need some serious reforms so that doctors can actually practice medicine to help people rather than get barred by pharmaceutical companies, insurance agencies, and hospital bureaucracy.

[@Stop_Infanticide]

Can we talk about how the immunocompromised, like this PT, are the most likely to have serious, if not fatal reactions to the vaccine?

[@jesussaves3781]

No they don’t talk about any facts that may go against their agenda. That could cost him his job. He just ignores all that stuff.

[@Fiddlers-Green42]

You mean the same immunocompromised people who died from covid?

[@rudra62]

And, much more likely to have serious, if not fatal reactions to the disease.

[@wwflguy]

Gets the vaccine and still gets covid 2more times

[@Princes_Luna]

Yeah but it’s of a lesser degree

[@winstonsmith312]

​@@Princes_Luna😂

[@BritishGuy.]

And doesn't suffer ill effects because he was vaccinated.

[@winstonsmith312]

@@BritishGuy. 🤣🤣🤣

[@BritishGuy.]

@@winstonsmith312 What is it, smooth brain?

[@twankuijpers947]

Patient: "I could get hit by a car tomorrow" Doc: "Yeah we also recommend you look left and right before crossing the street"

[@lamontcunningham5286]

And look left again if your country drives on the right side of the road.

[@Chonts]

@@lamontcunningham5286 was just about to say this

[@eileensnow6153]

@@nothereyetlost But from a medical perspective, if we had a low-risk outpatient procedure that significantly reduced the chances of getting hit by a car, that procedure would probably be a requirement before an organ transplant too. It’s irresponsible not to address a significant threat just because other dangers exist in the world.

[@Karamarika]

@@eileensnow6153 so surely they have dietary restrictions, weight requirements, seatbelt requirements, ban extreme sports, and restrict any and everything else that could put the patient at risk of death or of hurting their new organ, right? Riiiight? I have taken care of countless kidney recipients that are back on dialysis with a now useless extra kidney in their abdomen. I feel so bad for whoever donated that organ. Their donation was a complete waste. An organ can fail no matter how well the person takes care of it. There are also people who won't be compliant with their antirejection meds and lose the organ as a result. But let's focus just on a COVID vaccine that has nothing to actually do with the issue at hand here.

[@SkylarBlake1193]

Patient: but I've crossed roads without getting hit multiple times! Why do I need to do it again?

[@evam6566]

In Austria everyone is an organ donor unless they get registered and carry a non donor id at all times. Average wait time for a kidney is about a month. A heart takes three months. Also, transplants are free. The US should think about this approach.

[@MsPuffykinz]

I’ll stop you right there. That’s too much common sense. So it infringes on peoples ‘freedoms’. Probably start a religious uproar or some shit.

[@poisonivy745]

My trust in our medical system makes me think they wouldn't try as hard saving me if they know someone needs an organ. I worked for many doctors who treat medicine as a business and think of patients as nuisances.

[@BirDLaw-dh1di]

We value ourselves more in death then most people do in their lives

[@tpalmer4829]

Under socialized medicine, you cannot sue your doctor, so there are not crazy malpractice insurance bills. That’s why the care is less expensive.

[@Tarotiste]

@@poisonivy745 Someone *always* needs an organ, though. A thing to think about. You wouldn't always be a viable donor and the recipients could be somewhere far away who is desperate - if they match and are high priority. I do understand that feeling, there's so many bad actors in our world. I'd say the last two years have likely weeded many "in it for the money only" medical professionals out. (As well as many caring ones who just couldn't take the stress and more...)

[@carloreytansiongco8741]

An answer to the question: Why do we still get infected if we were already vaccinated or got infected before? its a to and fro battle. With how widespread the infection is, mutation rates allow newer variants that look slightly different from previous variants. Immunity via vaccines or past infections can still work against this. But eventually with continued mutations you'll eventually encounter a new variant that looks completely different and hence your past immunity works less and less against it. This is why vaccination works if done to as many people as possible in as short amount of time. The hope is that you starve it off of unvaccinated people to give it as little chance to mutate/evolve. What is happening instead is that due to paranoia, a reasonably large subset of the population refused to get vaccinated. Hence, it increases the chances of new strains to appear. Healthcare and pharmaceuticals in turn will try to keep up with updated vaccines. This is the case you see with Influenza vaccines. Influenza is so endemic to the world, that new strains appears almost every year hence the vaccine given to you a year ago, might not work this year. In the case of Smallpox, the world collectively made an organized effort to eradicate it via massed vaccinations. I highly recommend Philip Detmer's book "Immune" a humorous but very informative book on how our body defenses work when encountering infections and vaccines. :)

[@clancywiggum3198]

To an extent we've also been spoilt with hypereffective vaccines against far easier targets (eg measles), and see anything less than perfection as a complete failure.

[@reilysmith5187]

It's because the vaccines don't work, because they aren't real vaccines. Don't you find it interesting the doctors favour prevention for covid with vaccines but treatment for obesity with heart surgery? Almost like they aren't abiding by principles but money instead.

[@clancywiggum3198]

@@reilysmith5187 If an obese person has heart disease that needs surgery you've missed the boat on prevention. Similarly if someone currently has COVID they get oxygen if they need it even if they aren't vaccinated. Meanwhile what you've conveniently ignored in your analogy is that many doctors do in fact fight very hard to prevent obesity and the negative health outcomes from it, but just like vaccines you don't see the diseases that never happen. The key difference is that vaccines are incredibly easy, while doctors preventing obesity in a country full of corporate interests promoting unhealthy eating and long work weeks without sick leave or annual leave is really hard, so unsurprisingly there's still obese people, although there's less than there would be if doctors weren't working to prevent it. Similarly there's a lot less dying from COVID right now than there was 18 months ago.

[@reilysmith5187]

@@clancywiggum3198 No. Doctors fight very hard to prevent preventative treatment of obesity and the resulting heart disease. See Widowmaker: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hISzlKh9n9inhJY Meanwhile you're ignoring that literal life saving medicine has been ignored as a cure. Giving oxygen doesn't heal anyone from this virus. So you're wrong.

[@our-days-are-short8254]

One day someone's family will sue to life out of these surgeons who demand the jab.

[@nosuchthing8]

Good luck. They have the facts, not fancy.

[@gunsquawk4443]

Nope. The government gives them immunity.

[@maureenlaneski2802]

Transplant patient here. You must show you're able to follow directions and keep as healthy as possible. You'll almost certainly be on meds that suppress your immune system and will get vaccines that are normally just for elderly people. You'll be ineligible for live vaccines, like the flu spray or rotavirus. One had to wear masks for years in certainsituations, including when my baby got sick or got live vaccines (gloves for rotavirus). Imagine needing a transplant but the person ahead of you gets one, then loses it or dies because they were noncompliant? Also, your condition needs to be somewhat stable because if you can't handle the trauma, you could lose the graft. Most transplants are also from decedents. You must be ready to accept the transplant and take good care of yourself. You must have a support network. You must demonstrate compliance and competence. Someone died to give you that organ. Others are dying waiting for them. Hospitals want good success rates. Don't mess around! Best in health to all of you. Things are stressful lately. Much love and understanding...💖

[@theonethatcan7780]

I was wondering, and I'm serious cuz I don't know anything about the requirements for transplants, would you need to get that year's flu vaccine in order to get a transplant?

[@RalphSampson...]

"Someone died to give you that organ". No, they didn't. It is more accurate to say, "Someone that died had an organ up for grabs". There is a BIG BIG difference. I'm going to be a donor but, I'm not going to die just to give away my organs. I'm no hero. They are more than welcome to them after I am through with them.

[@Kanjiwinyan]

@@theonethatcan7780 yes. There's a whole long list that needs to be completed before even being considered for a transplant.

[@junagag.2929]

@@Kanjiwinyan For example be fucking rich and named Rothschild.

[@Kanjiwinyan]

@@junagag.2929 that's true for any medical care in the US.

[@dhrewpatel2431]

Doctor here. Scary how accurate this is. Patients will constantly say “just make me better” while doing absolutely nothing themselves

[@amityislandchum]

I wish we could deny them treatment. Either get vaccinated or get out of my fucking hospital.

[@matt566]

@@amityislandchum That’s pretty psychopathic

[@reaganriddle]

@@amityislandchum I’m gonna laugh my ass off when u have a heart problem or some shit in about 15 years.

[@tpalmer4829]

@@Javajavajav thank you for being intelligent and believing the medical experts. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼💪🏼

[@J-le-One-and-Only]

@@amityislandchum The Nuremberg Code

[@CatsRMetal]

Yep, because the risk of getting myocarditis (and many other side effects) on top of covid is much better.

[@mkperez7465]

This would make sense if it kept you from getting covid.

[@Dee-pd7yy]

I usually do not do this... by i'm just gonna call you and idiot and not go any further.

[@Fiddlers-Green42]

Does the flu vaccine make you **immune** to the flu? Nope! It builds resistance to decrease the chances of a severe flu infection

[@cobra19946]

I work with a guy that was fully vaccinated and still ended up in ICU from covid. I've also been fully vaccinated and I got it, so tell me again how it is such a great thing?

[@rudra62]

Your coworker didn't die of COVID. You got vaccinated and didn't end up in the ICU. It gives you a lower chance of getting COVID, and a much lower chance of getting a serious case. The benefit is more visible when talking about populations rather than individuals.

[@fyrestorme]

I have been vaccinated since they were available and I still got covid twice. The vaccines are not as great as some people think

[@HavaWM]

The vaccines help you reduce the chance of being infected, and also helps the cases be less severe if you do catch Covid. Think about it this way: If you didn’t get the vaccine, maybe one of your bouts with the virus would’ve meant you ended up in the hospital on a ventilator, instead of just being able to stay home and get better there. The vaccines helped your cases not be as bad as they would’ve been otherwise. Plus, did you get the booster? If you haven’t had the vaccine + the booster, you defs don’t have full coverage.

[@robertpeterson9871]

@@HavaWM actually the latest data indicates that the vaccine doesn't protect from infection from the Omnicron variant. It does lower hospitalization rates still

[@RSpracticalshooting]

@@HavaWM oh you got the vaccine but not the booster? Guess it won't work. Oh, you got the booster too? Well did you get a second booster? Or the third? When will you wake tf up and realize they're not trying to do anything but control you? Every person I know who has gotten the vaccine has ended up getting Covid for the first time.

[@cheshirecat5155]

@@HavaWM This is what some people don't get. The "90+% chance to protect from severe COVID" is already big. Had they not taken the vaccine, how are they sure they aren't intubated now? Or stuck with those awful long term effects? Or stuck with a hospital bill they can't pay in their lifetime? Or worst, dead?

[@JohnTheRecoilJunkie]

I've looked into organ donation and I thought donor and recipient had to be up to date on everything vaccine wise.

[@benzracer]

Some hospitals can eat it with the way they flipped on their “heroes”.

[@princess7jasmine]

Funny as a skit, scary when they actually do this in real life. In fact, I bet Doc Smidth made this from personal experience. Edit: Heck, the m0r0ns are even in the comments replying to this one.

[@maump1852]

Seems very reasonable to me

[@breadwinner_marcus737]

They have done it just happened

[@cenfer9962]

@@maump1852 they had it twice already and they probably already had this attitude right after the 1st one. They have already been proven wrong lmao. If they had gotten vaccinated right after the first time they would never have gotten it the 2nd time and would not be in any organ trouble now

[@amityislandchum]

Doctor here, can confirm. This "logic" isn't uncommon. I had one patient who was admitted for covid for the SECOND time say, "I don't need the vaccine. I have natural immunity." I said, "....But this is your second time getting covid." Idiot: "Yeah, I know." Me: "You don't see the flaw in that logic?" Idiot: "I have an immune system." *Internal screaming*

[@Mm-zl8ks]

@@cenfer9962 they can still get it, its just that the effect would be lesser.

[@hightrue8678]

Bull!!! I got boosters and still got covid 3xs! Im currently in quarantine with the worst covid symptoms I’ve ever had! That 5 day quarantine is stupid! And covid is spreading like wild fire at work!

[@michaelschwader7944]

A doctor used to take an oath to treat anyone no matter what. Enemy or foe or even bad decisions. My how far doctors have fallen. 😢

[@fascinatedbyeverything]

They still do treat everyone just like the old days. The issue in this clip is you have a limited resource, like a kidney. If you have 2 patients that need it, but only 1 can get it, you'd give it to the person with the greatest probability of surviving. All else equal, that's the person who has been vaccinated. Doctors have had to make these heart-wrenching decisions since you were a kid. That hasn't changed.

[@danacaro-herman3530]

@Michael Schwader. No truer words have been spoken Michael!!

[@michaelschwader7944]

@@fascinatedbyeverything The newer data coming out proves me right.

[@nosuchthing8]

If you smoke ten packs a day and admit it, you won't be high on the list

[@michaelschwader7944]

@@nosuchthing8 1.) I don't smoke 2.) Natural immunity has proven greater. 3.) Died suddenly has sky rocketed. 4.) It is NOT a coincidence.

[@leelourose2503]

His tune will change once they start driving 16 gauge needles up his arm once a week.

[@rasmuskp93]

"You could get hit by a car tomorrow" yeah but im sure they wouldnt let you be on the transplant list if they knew you were gonna walk on the highway on the daily either..

[@farmyardfab]

Well maybe they should take a look at your driving record or refuse your transplant if you post dangerous stunts on social media. It’s not about “wasting organs” its about compliance.

[@Stanzafly]

@@farmyardfab ...how many spare organs do you think we have at any given moment? Healthy people have to sign up to donate their organs and then make sure they die in a way that doesn't damage them, and their organs have to be harvested immediately after death. Not that many deaths fit that list and the organs do expire. And then we have to match blood types. It's so hard to get new organs that folks have to be put on a LIST and some folks die before they can even get them. It's 100% about a lack of organs to donate. Why would we give one of these organs to somebody who refuses to get protection against death against the pandemic? Can you imagine telling a 14 yo kid that he couldn't get a new liver or heart bc we gave his last match away? And then that person gets complications from covid bc they refused to get a vaccine? And their new organ they got is toast? It'd just be stupid.

[@farmyardfab]

@@Stanzafly your logic applies to a plethora of different things that people do on a daily basis but never get taken into factor.

[@DadSherwood]

Yeah I can't imagine how many late diagnoses of cancer there will be because of postponed appointments from the vid

[@terdferguson1736]

Ya whos fault is that? While you assholes sit here pushing vaccines thats dont work while africa india and indonesia have totally kicked covid ass doing what the FLCCC had been advising since day one/ yup ivermectin fucking works and monoclonal antibodies yet you are pushing vaccines. When it is early treatment that the science clearly says is the way to do it. But you dont care that your bad politics are making people die, for what to pat yourselves on the back on social media its gross. Goo fucking learn something. Amazing how many people have no clue what the countries doing great with covid do

[@abbzeh137]

@@terdferguson1736 why you think this dude is an asshole or pushing vaxxes? Nothing in his comment suggests that

[@Jynxxy13ravedoll]

@@terdferguson1736 Um 1 that is false and 2 even if it was true those countries implemented strict lockdowns where people weren't allowed to leave their houses except for necessities. Is that really the solution you are wanting. I doubt in A country where people are losing their minds and threatening to bring loaded guns to schools because they are being made to wear a surgical mask (something many countries do as a courtesy with even a common cold to not get others sick) that people are going to peacefully stay inside until cases are low enough for us to all interact freely. If we just wait for it to go away naturally it could take decades. That is an option but I think most of us could agree we don't want to live like that for that long.

[@Art_time5823]

Gets the vaccine gets Covid again

[@rightfulfuture4]

That's how mafia works

[@Fiddlers-Green42]

I got the flu vaccine and still got the flu! Oh right, vaccines build resistance to disease and not outright immunity since being completely immune to a disease is a fantasy

[@edwardcornell1263]

The vax does not prevent you from getting sick. Everyone will get sick regardless, it is just some people can handle sickness better then others. There were plenty of people that ended up in the hospital even after they had vax. The part that cracks me up is giving the vax to people who take immune suppressive medication., because you spress the immune system, redering the immune system usless in the human body. I have a friend who had a heart transplant every time someone else would get sick my friend would wear a mask, because she did not want to get sick and this was before 2019.

[@Asongbook]

Still alive to complain....

[@Ryan-re1rs]

Tell this to the people who dropped dead days after thier nice healthy vax.

[@annataymond9529]

“I don’t think I need a seatbelt because Ive already been in two car accidents and now I’m fine”

[@bamboo_shoot9262]

It’s so annoying how many people fundamentally misunderstand vaccines. No, they aren’t a miracle cure. They prepare your immune system in the scenario you do get infected.

[@62saki91]

Strawman argument and not even close to same thing literally apples to oranges.

[@annataymond9529]

@@62saki91 why is that? You can get covid more than once obviously and the vaccines statistically improves your ability to fight it. You can be in a car accident more than one and a seatbelt statistically improves your ability to withstand it.

[@62saki91]

@@annataymond9529 because your body doesn't suddenly grow an airbag to increase survival rate, unlike infections where your body makes b and t memory cells that can recognize subsequent infection, produce anti bodies on demand of subsequent infection, and do this for multiple mutations of the same strain. Putting a jab ontop of natural immunity has negligible effect according to Jan 19th WMMR report from cdc over non jab immunity.

[@annataymond9529]

@@62saki91 it’s not a perfect comparison, nothing has perfect comparison, it’s not invalid though. There are people who got covid once, did fine, and died the second time, or were left permanently disabled. The vaccine has proved to be more affective than the ‘natural immunity’

[@onyxtay7246]

I could get hit by a car. But I'm an organ donor, and I want my liver to go to someone who isn't an idiot.

[@MagnakayViolet]

It's easy to imagine this as a skit where a lawyer stops a transplant surgery because the donor's will said 'vaccinated patients' only.🙃

[@cooperdonner4520]

They don’t want your dumb ass liver anyway. Could pass on your stupidity to them.

[@howboutno412]

@@cooperdonner4520 you: 🤡👶☠

[@Jesusisincontrol]

Nuremberg!!

[@communadog7874]

@@cooperdonner4520 really showing your understanding of the human body with this one

[@jeffms]

How does this square with the recent Jan 19 statement that Prior Covid Infection Offered More Protection Against Delta Than Vaccines? An article on Reuters stated (and I quote) "health officials in California and New York gathered data from May through November, which included the period when the Delta variant was dominant. It showed that people who survived a previous infection had lower rates of COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated alone." Wouldn't your patients with previous infections protect him as much, if not more?

[@sarahsli9710]

Yeah, absolutely. It’s all about control.

[@dennisk5054]

You may get cancelled for asking that 🤫

[@Psycholosopher]

Honestly I hate this channel It keeps showing up in my list of shorts, and I constantly report not to show me content from this guy.

[@Psycholosopher]

@@sarahsli9710 definitely the vaccine is about as effective as getting the damn disease. Then again though you are still likely to catch it with the vaccine. I caught my covid from my girlfriend who is vaccinated. This propaganda and mandated bull needs to stop.

[@theratgod8194]

In that same article, it also states that “Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous covid infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated” This clip still applies, and people in this comment section are fucking insane

[@shanemaddocks703]

I found out about the no transplants for the unvaccinated. And now I am no longer a donor lol

[@awright119021]

Wow so you don't want to help dying people because of your own beliefs about a vaccine. Donating organs to help people should be a selfless act without any conditions.

[@broklynchedur8757]

This shit right here folks, this is how you know how far off doctors are from what they should be. This is why you shouldn’t give unconditional, blind trust to doctors and this is why they shouldn’t make healthcare choices for you.

[@donovanmahan2901]

You entirely missed the point of this short.

[@KingSimius0]

@@donovanmahan2901 nah, he gets it 👍

[@ryancroy]

So I assume that this is in support to the case of a 31 year old guy that wa taken off of the list of a heart transplant because he was unvaccinated? Don't even try with your facade of moral superiority.

[@Flyingmushroomman]

Being unvaccinated is a risk factor, sorry to say but any number of comorbidities will make it so that you are less likely to get a transplant because you are at a higher risk than people with less, it's not just COVID, if you're diabetic, overweight, etc. You're unlikely or even not eligible for some transplants because organs are in such rare supply that they will prioritize people with the better chance of survival. Cold but necessary.

[@hiltonwise7750]

Gets vaccine I'm immune, gets covid

[@avery5290]

Ah yes, youtube. The best place to get your medical advice.

[@DaGrassBroskiis]

He's a real doctor tho

[@msSweeTae]

So...the patient wants the doc to do everything to fight the symptoms, but not the assumed cause? That's a waste of resources. *corrected a grammar mistake *Addition: I'm aware that prevention doesn't 100% prevent something to happen, but it 'can' make the illness for example less bad. A vaccine doesn't save you from getting a certain illness, but it makes the illness less harmful. (For those who don't understand that my comment is about the video: my comment is about the case shown in the video. Not about heart attacks, not about strokes, mental health, whatever...)

[@Andrew-hx9tz]

Welcome to healthcare.

[@msSweeTae]

@@Andrew-hx9tz true...most people rather take a ton of pills instead of changing something about their lifestyle, for example.

[@CarrieMK]

@@msSweeTae While I completely understand what you’re saying, I just want to add that, in some cases, there may be underlying mental health issues that make those changes seem impossible to the patient.

[@msSweeTae]

@@CarrieMK hey, thank you for your answer! If you mean my comment, that's why I wrote "most people" and "for example". I tried to avoid making it sound generalized. Hoped that would make it clear enough, that I don't throw every single human being in one box, without mentioning every single exception 😅

[@S_wali]

The "I'm healthy , I beat it before argument is terrible" , as a vaccinator I have had so many patients tell me , I thought I was fit and healthy and it wouldn't affect me , and then they got it and decided to get the vaccine. As a vaccinator(not a medical professional but have studied allot of the data) I tell my patients to wait 12 weeks after a covid infection unless travelling requires it more urgently then I'd go 28 days, as the bodies natural immune system diminishes after roughly 12 weeks

[@Justice_Frog]

This is like saying "I was in two car crashes, and I beat them. I don't need to wear a seatbelt."

[@vividdawn913]

I've been in more than 2 (always as a passenger!)...I wear my belt always! Hell, it freaks me out when people just take off, and don't give me time to put it on first!

[@NikoBellaKhouf2]

Apples and oranges

[@amityislandchum]

@@NikoBellaKhouf2 Oh, do explain. This should be good.

[@NikoBellaKhouf2]

@@amityislandchum you really need someone to explain to you how experimental medical procedures and seat belts aren't the same thing?

[@EmEm78]

@@NikoBellaKhouf2 what experimental medical procedures are you referring to genius?

[@purplealiencookies7416]

honestly now that they discriminate for transplants I REMOVED MYSELF FROM THE DONOR LIST ,,…we good doc?

[@JK_JK_JK]

What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?

[@gvn1048]

I don't get it. If the patient got covid twice, shouldn't a good doctor be asking when he got it the 2nd time and testing the patient's blood to see possible antibodies?... I don't know... Just saying

[@cloudstrike5225]

That's unnecessary. Given ther is already a vaccine, you just be reinventing the wheel

[@dewknow1315]

An NFL coach got COVID 19 twice even being full vaccinated and a booster shot.

[@AnteaterOne]

So don’t wear a seatbelt since it doesn’t provide you with 100% protection in the event of an accident?

[@dewknow1315]

@@AnteaterOne I never said they don't work just laughing at people that think it 100% going to stop people from getting it. I have the shoot and only doing one booster shot not doing every 6 months for life. I been to 7 different airports and been to 10 states and no COVID 19 for me. I not going to hide under my bed.

[@carrieeubanks5054]

seatbelts have killed people. so that should also be our choice

[@toksdad]

How do people know how sick you would've got with or without a COVID shot ?

[@Denis-fs2ip]

So did you take your 518496th booster yet? All ppl I know who were tipple butted. Still got covid 😂

[@frankisyourdaddy]

Funny, my doctor told me not to get it after I got COVID. He said once you have had it, you are at a higher risk of adverse side effects or reactions if you get the vaccine. That was in November when I had Delta, just got over Omicron and it was very mild.

[@danielasanchez4674]

Yup, doctors have different opinions but I see that there is only one argument being supported on tech platforms unfortunately. Open discourse is needed :(

[@frankisyourdaddy]

@@danielasanchez4674 absolutely, then we need to talk about why so many died needlessly due to suppression of early treatments.

[@danielasanchez4674]

@@frankisyourdaddy 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@danielasanchez4674]

@@frankisyourdaddy What opened my mind to that issue was McCullough's Testimony to the Texas Senate HHS Committee and and Pierre Kory's testimony to the Senate asking them to conduct clinical trials on IVM

[@frankisyourdaddy]

@@danielasanchez4674 the doctors in my city were prescribing IVM and monoclonal antibodies about 6 months ago, keeping the hospitals at normal census or just slightly above normal. The government issued them cease and desist orders because not enough people were getting the jab. That's when I knew they don't care about the public or its health.

[@charlescollins380]

“I got the vaccine and the booster” Gets Covid a 3rd time “Everyone should take this vaccine or we’ll all die” *while laying in hospital bed dying from heart failure*

[@OKAYOKAY420]

Double vaxxed and my health is getting worse. I have horrible kidney pain that I have to get checked out.

[@anaruizguti]

Still won’t prescribe it .. as no liability .

[@alexa7337]

It is terrible that in order for the doctors to save your life with a new organ, you have to be vaxed. I should not have to weigh my eternal soul with having more years with my young children.

[@aguystandinginfrontofaworld]

And the funny side is that the same outcome is the other path as well. But let's not talk about that.

[@TheManWhoStoleTheShadows]

How will getting the vaccine prevent him from getting it?

[@kaitydarst5992]

That's what I was thinking too lol 😂

[@princeytron]

Do you need someone to explain to you functionally how vaccines work?

[@number5mom]

Look at the athletes dropping on the field. Heart damage in the young is being normalized.

[@rudra62]

This happened to an athlete in my mother's tiny high school in the 1940s. This was long before COVID.

[@pellyell]

Bbrruuu, my convos with my patients everyday about literally anything

[@jasonbaroody1310]

Me already having COVID-19 isn't even the reason why I refuse the mRNA vaccines.

[@MoonZenn]

My sister isn’t vaxxed, I am, I’ve had Covid twice and got sicker than I could ever imagine and sister got it once and barely coughed 😎

[@callusklaus2413]

Sorry the dice didn't come out in your favor, at rates this large, there will be all sorts of outcomes. Unfortunately with statistics, when applied to people, we can be outliers.

[@eddielathum8405]

Paid advertisement from who, the people trying not to get sued by millions of victims due to negligence in a bio lab

[@chasethegames303]

Doctor: okay we’re going to stick you with a vaccine Patient: Hell no! Doctor: okay we’re going to stick this needle in your belly Patient: count me in!

[@thomasmacgruber6701]

Jesus, who thinks this is entertainment. Pfizer must pay well.

[@TheGoodFruitMelancholy]

No joke. Every other “skit” from this dude is ripping into the😱 “unvaxxed “😱-I’d avoid this MD like the plague…or like Covid😂😂

[@AngieGandalf6]

Ikr

[@usagixmochi]

"do ANYTHING to heal me doc. Just don't give me the silly needle with the juice"

[@WithLoveAshley]

He had Covid twice. He doesn’t need a vaccine that doesn’t stop the spread or provide immunity.

[@fieldenternamehere]

@@WithLoveAshley then he doesn't need a liver.

[@savi1314]

@@WithLoveAshley Source? Lol

[@RSpracticalshooting]

@@savi1314 umm, literally the CEO of Phizer.

[@usagixmochi]

@@WithLoveAshley okay then ma'am. What is the scientific evidence behind that he doesn't need the vaccine? Imagine this, a few soldiers survive two rough wars. Having suffered multiple injuries and permanent traumas. Do you really think these soldiers will go back into another battle after fighting the roughest wars they've seen and fought in? Even with the injuries and literal traumas they still suffer with?? just because someone/something got stronger after their toughest battles doesn't mean they're always ready for a new one. The immune system isn't God's sandbox he's not making more healthy white blood cells, it's the body.

[@Johnny_C137]

Imagine living in a world of such entitlement that people arbitrarily pick and choose what parts of medical science to believe based on social media posts...

[@rodneywarren1905]

Yeah…imagine. 🤦‍♂️

[@noneya3522]

It’s great to live in a free America where people can make medical choices for themselves, isn’t it! Stop being a hater, it’s their decision and they’re the one who will have to live with it. No one chooses your medical care plans for you without your consent.

[@rodneywarren1905]

@@noneya3522 except it affects us all; not to mention there are people who cannot get the vaccine (children and those that are allergic to it) and those people need the rest of us yo get vaccinated to protect them. Unless you are just pretending to be one of those entitled people to prove OP’s point, in which case, good job, I guess.

[@noneya3522]

@@rodneywarren1905 children can get vaccinated.

[@rodneywarren1905]

@@noneya3522 0-4 year olds cannot get the vaccine right now. Plus plenty of other kids are being denied the vaccine by their parents.

[@candicebrunson9131]

"You could get it again." You could get it while vaccinated... 🤦🏽‍♀️ I also don't understand the argument that if you're vaccinated the symptoms aren't as bad. It's impossible to say 100% how your body would have reacted without vaccine if you're vaccinated and vice-versa. The claims of the vaccine have changed so many times. To treat vac hesitant people like they're unreasonable is unreasonable. I can definitely see a shift in attitude though, thankfully.

[@sophiebell4758]

The Argument that a vaccine lessers the risk of a Severe Case Comes From statistics. U know? U Look at thousands and Millions of people Who got covid, and Wether they we're vaccinated before or Not, and how the Cases were. The reason why many Claims Changed is that we are still learning about this Virus. Learning means we get more knowlege With time. And also, the Claims might Change a Bit, but they didnt Changed conpletely. We know a vaccine lessens the risk of infections and severe Cases. We know the Immunity after an infection lessens the risk of a new infection and a Severe Case. We know that a vaccine is Safer than covid. We know neither a vaccine Nor an infection gives U 100% imunity. And we know that the imunity lessens over time. How much Safer Something is, how much it lessens the risks, how high the Immunity is and how Long it lasts are the Things we are learning. But that it happends is Something we know

[@nates9105]

This is why the term "immunity" is the wrong terminology to use as it is misunderstood. Instead we should talk about risk reduction/prevention instead of immumity, an image of bullet proofness or complete protection.

[@ttt3377]

Bullet resistant. High enough caliber will destroy a vest. But yes I agree.

[@KING94NINJA]

let's just talk about the moving goal post. first you won't get sick and won't spread it. now you get shot you can get covid and spread it.

[@McGreevious_]

@@KING94NINJA Nobody in any sort of position of authority said vaccinated people won’t get sick or spread covid.

[@KING94NINJA]

@Ryan oh so the president doesn't have any authority? or the cdc? just because the magic TV box didn't tell you doesn't mean it didn't happen

[@McGreevious_]

@@KING94NINJA Just because you tell me it did doesn’t mean it did If you have a source showing Biden, Trump or the CDC saying “if you get vaccinated you will never get sick from covid” then I’d love to see it.

[@alpacacrazy3025]

Gets 3 vaccines, still gets Covid

[@terrielemaire5884]

Vaccines don't mean you will NEVER get it, it means you have a significantly lower chance of being hospitalized and dying.

[@pharaohkai1]

@@terrielemaire5884 yea but the doctor made it sound like he couldn't

[@terrielemaire5884]

@@pharaohkai1 no, the Dr made it sound like being vaccinated would help him stay healthier after undergoing extreme surgery, a surgery after which he'll have to take immunosuppressing medication to prevent organ rejection, so his immune system will be super susceptible to illness. It sounds like making sure that organ remains healthy and isn't wasted on someone who won't take care of it is kind of important to the people who have to decide who lives and dies because of organ shortages. If someone dies who would have done everything to take care of themselves because some other idiot got the organ and drank themselves back into the hospital or deliberately let themselves get sick instead of taking advantage of modern medicine, it'd be pretty infuriating for medical staff.

[@HM-yk8ce]

Try 4 and still no antibodies! I wonder if they are testing for antibodies in these people. With their logic they should test for that and scratch them off the list too....? This is just crazy.

[@HM-yk8ce]

@@terrielemaire5884 Shouldn't having it be doing the same thing as the vaccine?

[@hondaprelude91]

I realized that if the sick man survived covid twice with a bad liver, just imagine him with a good liver. Also the jab only lasts 6 month's.

[@gunsquawk4443]

I just became an un-donor. If I don't qualify to receive, I choose not to give.

[@Credge24]

When the CDC just said natural immunity is better than the vaccine... not going to argue, it's all just weird

[@cenfer9962]

Well obviously, the vaccine is attempting to imitate natural immunity. But I would rather get the vaccine and have a chance NOT to get it then HAVE to have it eventually.

[@shanibame1326]

The CDC has said this only in regards to the delta variant, and the study in question occurred before boosters were available. However, studies have shown that natural immunity is far less effective against omicron than it has been against previous variants. The best protection against omicron has been shown to be full vaccination including the booster. Admittedly, people who have been previously infected *and* boosted will be the most protected of all, but an unvaccinated person with natural immunity is still more likely to be infected right now than anyone boosted

[@Goberte123]

Not always. In fact, some infections reduce your overall immunity to all diseases, like Measles.

[@4x4Express]

@@cenfer9962 being vaccinated does not lower your chances at getting covid and spreading it just so you know.

[@SStarlight9614]

@@shanibame1326 still ain’t taking it 😂 you can’t stop the inevitable if I’m supposed to die from this shit then I’m not going to go and try to “save” myself from death you literally can’t beat death 😂

[@deniseperalta-smith3948]

My sister is currently going through tremors and fluid around the heart due to the vaccine. She had the vaccine last year and still has these issues. Her doctor states it was due to the vaccine. But that’s perfectly fine, right.

[@iyaayas]

I mentioned situations like this to my doc when I refused the vax. Doc just tole me that if that happens to me with the vax then it'll happen to me if I catch the virus. I caught it.....I'm fine. I will not get the vax until I have no choice but to take it or lose my career. Right now I've used every excuse to avoid it so far (currently pregnant and received the antibody treatment....they can't make me get it until after giving birth AND 90 days has passed since antibody treatment).

[@mitchellgreig8442]

So they are discriminating against patients who legally choose not to get a medical procedure that hadn’t been tested for long enough ? Seems very one sided

[@michellericard4850]

And 80% of people in the hospital with COVID are also vaccinated. Why take it if it DOESN'T help??

[@MrCristNight]

The funny fact is I know several people that have gotten the shot and still get Covid multiple times

[@rachel1120ify]

Fully vaccinated here and my family, we got it twice. We just got through the second time last week.

[@kylewonglee7724]

I’m not vaxxed and my parents are and they got covid I didn’t

[@JohnBrowningsGhost]

Erm excuse me, they totally would have died tho if they hadn’t gotten the shot.

[@rachel1120ify]

@@kylewonglee7724 I hope you never do

[@rachel1120ify]

@@JohnBrowningsGhost My sister got vaccinated and got terribly sick with covid getting vaccinated doesn't mean you won't die if you get it, plenty of people have. I'm not against vaccinations, I've always done mine and my kids also, but I don't blindly trust them either. Nothing is full proof.

[@natashaorr1596]

Even if you get vaxed you can get covid still so I don’t understand that logic. What are they gonna do? Take away your kidney cuz you got covid after you got the vax and implant?

[@Josie-6]

That would be because not everyone got vaccinated when they should have, which has allowed Covid to mutate and create different strains, so even people vaccinated have to pay the price for other people’s stupidity and refusal to get a fucking shot.

[@Josie-6]

It’s also kinda silly when you say you don’t get the point because you can still technically get Covid when it still drastically minimizes the chances. You’re basically saying “there’s still a one percent chance you can get it, so what’s the point of getting the vaccine to begin with?” Because it lowers your chances drastically, Janet, keep up. If someone says you are less likely to get hit by a car riding a bike at night if you use bike lights and don’t wear all black in the middle of the night while riding down the street, you don’t say “well even if I do all of that there’s still a chance someone could hit me, so I’m not gonna bother doing any of it.”

[@Pyra_Vale]

Yes you can still get covid but you are significantly less likely to be hospitalized or die from it.

[@Cedalus]

@@Josie-6 China has a nearly 90% vax rate and they have the omicron variant

[@garygoldstein327]

B4 the whole Vacine thing , was told I needed an oblation since I only had a week to live. I informed my cardiologist that the devil is a liar. And declined the action. 6 years go by. No stroke. Same problem. No pain. No heart attack. My Cardiologist had to move to a smaller more affordable office to continue his practice. Same speach. But now I have 3 days to live. I reminded him that I am still here. I declined again. It's been 9 years since my last visit. Faith the size of a grain of mustard seed, really does move mountains into the sea without tsunamis in Jesus name. God has not given us a Spirit to fear but of Power, Love, and importantly a Sound Mind. Amazing how we got to this point of trusting others with the only life which belongs to us. Seeking PHD's to help us and paying them big money to hurt us? And shorten our life expectancy? (The age I need others to think for me is the age I cannot think for myself. ) When did big pharma help the woman touch the hem of Jesus garment and be made whole ?

[@flaquitoyork]

I suppose that because people are not falling like flies that this is probably not a true pandemic. However, if I go along with the vaccine then my daughter will probably have to get the vaccine to and I don’t believe in children getting the vaccine through mandates. Children don’t get heart attacks or strokes, it’s very rare but children strokes and heart attacks are so much higher than ever before in the history since taking COVID vaccines. I do not want my daughter at risk. She got Covid twice and the second time did not even react at all and I had a very low Covid infection however the first time I almost died because I got the Delta variant. At this point I feel rather immune in my body fight off the virus very well

[@a.w.4708]

Again, better argument would be explaining why getting vaccine isn't the same as getting covid in terms of gained immunity. The arguments don't focus on patient's real concerns, so it is obvious they don't work the best.

[@abbzeh137]

Yeah this is what I'm thinking .. it doesn't seem that invalid to say "I've had it". Why aren't they informing us of the difference between post infection immunity and post vax immunity...

[@Undomaranel]

That and the conversation felt like it was ignoring certain positions. I get that if you're on a transplant list it makes sense to jump through more hoops, but at the same time medicine hasn't convinced me this "vaccine" has done much beyond be a placebo. You can still catch it, pass it, etc. no matter how many boosters.

[@TheLtVoss]

The problem is with the RNA Vaccination make a worst immunity than a post infection immunity because it only replicates the protines on the out side of the virus (the part that has the highest mutation chance) and it only activates ~20% of a complete immune reaction compared too a post infection immunity also the time it is works is bad a, shot every 3 months is fare from a classic vaccination and the cross mutation protection is also bad just looking at the data a RNA Vaccin is good for biological warfire to protect troupes for a short time but for a global pandamic it isn't suited But since pollitics have put in money in the companys that make the Vaccin and they profit from it. ever classic Vaccin (like the flue shot) resach against CoVid dosnt get the fundings Also the RNA Vaccin relays also on the personal immune system so if the immune system is weaker after operation the it will lose its effects even more than post infection immunity oh and if you allready ill with covid (like in the video above a Vaccin will make thinks worse than before)

[@Apersonnamedme]

@@abbzeh137 they did studies and reports show with Delta variant atleast natural immunity was 6x compared with the vaccine. Though the study didn’t take into account both vaccination and natural immunity also the study acknowledges the vaccines weren’t made for Delta. However, studies from Israel show vaccine doesn’t work and may be worse for Omicron variant.

[@Apersonnamedme]

@@TheLtVoss no if you look at the courts research on covid is very well funded just in a huge legal loophole on when it gets released. We are getting the first reports this year because the CDC and FDA were sued to stop them from covering all the research up for 20 years. We are now in a time table for them to release everything within like 8 months. However, now Pfizer, moderna, and J&J are fighting to retract all the research and have said they won’t take suing to make it 20+ years again off the table.

[@AnonYmous-ci7ey]

The kidney numbers could also be from the covid infection or the vax itself if he had gotten the vax.

[@tabithawilks6967]

I personally resent people who think this way. I’m someone who lost both my kidneys from a disease that was not preventable. It’s true the kidneys as well as other organs are incredibly scarce and if you want one you have to do everything in your power to protect it. If anything happens to my new kidney and I lost it, I would honestly agree that I don’t deserve another one if it was my fault. You were assessed based on your overall health as well as any other behaviors. People who drink or smoke excessively Are considered higher risk for losing a kidney or other organ gift and are therefore going to receive a lower quality Oregon as well as receiving her Oregon later then they would if they had just tried to be healthier

[@witchprojekt666]

“I got vaccinated I’m immune.” Gets covid a second and third and fourth time. “Why won’t you get vaccinated just do the right thing” 😂

[@Rob-je6vx]

Oh…but without the vaccine it would be soooooo much worse. What a crock of shit.

[@witchprojekt666]

@@Rob-je6vx aye so settle for less, quite the philosophy there.

[@witchprojekt666]

If vaccines were really meant to minimize deaths than why are vaccines with higher efficacy so hard up for approval?🤫 It was just to make us “feel normal” ie: no concern for the other.

[@Princes_Luna]

I wonder if that second, third and fourth time was of lesser degree than the first time 🧐🤔

[@RompuzRoom]

​@Princess Luna nope

[@domoarigato7]

As a liver transplant nurse this is unfortunately accurate.

[@stingstungmemae1297]

I just read an article today about a guy who was kicked off the heart transplant list because he won't get the covid vaccine. Think he was in his mid thirties.

[@domoarigato7]

@@stingstungmemae1297 I read that article too and it seemed like there may have been some other things as well that made them keep him off the list. There are a lot of things that can keep people off of a transplant list unfortunately. One thing that is extremely important is compliance with medication in general so unwillingness to take one may be an indicator that the person may not take another one down the line.

[@mattcoorey2580]

@@stingstungmemae1297 That’s his problem, clearly shows he’s willing to die for his ridiculous beliefs

[@nursecory7033]

As a liver transplant recipient you do what the liver MD tells you to do. Organs can be so hard to get that being put on the list is a privilege not a necessity. Many people die waiting for organs. So not getting vaccinated because you are scared of what happen vs what will happen does not make logical sense. Once you get a transplant you are responsible for honoring the donors gift of life.

[@matthewthiesen6098]

@@nursecory7033 yes. Exactly. Honor the donor and your community.

[@sasham4073]

i love how everyone pretends that everything we ever learned about vaccines simply stopped applying since this pandemic

[@jamesbenz3228]

Yeah because we live in a post truth world where how we feel about something matters more than what is actually true. This is a growing trend I see in people regardless of political affiliation and it's concerning.

[@eomoran]

I mean that’s just not true. People are opposing the covid vaccine for different reasons. A mixture of it being new technology and long term clinical trials not having been done on that new technology. Vast majority of people don’t get the flu vaccine because of how ineffective it is and coronavirus vaccines are similar. Repeat and frequent vaccinations actually weaken your immune system, it isn’t as simple as “all vaccines are good”. Some other people are opposing to get them on religious grounds.

[@mikefarino4368]

You do realize that pretty much everything about other vaccines don’t apply here though right? These were the 1st mRNA vaccines approved in a significantly shorter period of time than most vaccines even get through their 1st phase of testing. It is apples to oranges comparing these to any other vaccine so it’s not insane that people are skeptical of them especially when they made the initial waive sign liability waivers to get the shots and did everything in their power to attempt to hide the trial data. And im vaccinated, before you come at be about being an anti vaxxer

[@americaisdyingslowly]

I love how "everyone" (Holy hell up to 4 months ago) still think the Covid "vaccine" is anything like previous vaccines... Geeeeezus

[@odaydrums]

Well this isn't a vaccine in the classic sense. Can you explain to me why that is? I bet you can't. But hey TRUST THE SCIENCE ( that you know nothing about)

[@firethief2971]

My own uncle and another member of my extended family died from kidney failure, they were undergoing dialysis for a long time. Now another member of our family is undergoing dialysis, two times a week, and is on the brink of bankruptcy. It's really hard to get a transplant here. Im from India, and healthcare is not as good as America here. So its really disturbing to see how people don't care about their health even if they don't have insurance.

[@62saki91]

Your covid treatment is better then Americas buddy believe me.

[@Woadyn]

I understand the logic.Hoover in this instance it makes absolutely no sense because you can still get covid after vaccinations.

[@complimentbotd7232]

"I won't get the jab doc" "Ok well we'll have to do 50 other things now that you've never heard of and will be way more invasive" "Yeah, das cool"

[@alexjoneschannel]

Contrary to liberal belief getting a vaccine won't fix any symptoms can only make them worse since it would only demand a greater immune response

[@F0reverYoung]

@@alexjoneschannel tell me you don't know how vaccines work without telling me.

[@alexjoneschannel]

@@F0reverYoung lmao if you're in the hospital with covid and get the vaccine there it'll only multiply the amount of foreign protein your body has to fight plus prolonged immune responses are shown to increase risk of blood clots but yeah I'm just Facebook conspiracy theorist I'm incapable of reading abstracts (abstracts are the base info of research papers, I know CNN doesn't teach you this)

[@F0reverYoung]

@@alexjoneschannel they ask you before you get the vaccine if you have or had Covid recently before allowing you to get it.

[@alexjoneschannel]

@@F0reverYoung Video is of a guy with covid in the hospital and the nurse asks him to get vaxxed as hes already sick. I said that would be dangerous, then you said I have no idea what im talking about. Are you now back tracking to that you shouldn't get vaxxed if you're sick or just beat covid?

[@accountlol7409]

“Like you could get hit by a car tomorrow!” So we don’t need road safety laws? “What no that’s different!” But also a easily preventable thing most of the time correct?Seatbelts were controversial in America when they were required as well by the way.

[@mockingjay478]

Same with child restraints. People acted like putting your child in something other than a bassinet in the back seat was a massive inconvenience. Now parents will claim you're parent-shaming if you point out the straps of their child's harness need to be untwisted and actually firm against the child's body. Why wouldn't you take every possible opportunity to keep yourself safe including get vaccinated?

[@24601InspectorJavert]

During a conversation with my father about mask mandates early on in the pandemic I compared wearing a mask to wearing a seatbelt, just an extra step to take to keep yourself safer. When I tell you this man literally looked me in the eye and said that the government shouldn't be able to force you to wear a seatbelt *either*. The stubborn stupidity. 🙄

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

@@24601InspectorJavert I mean, he's sorta right. You shouldn't have a choice with kids, they should mandate that you abesolutely have to strap your kid in, but who are we to stop someone who takes their own risks with their own bodies? Not wearing a seat belt isn't gunna hurt anyone else like drunk driving would. So I kinda agree with your dad.

[@sds522]

This argument does not hold water. Stupid comparison.

[@ElpSmith]

@@GlorifiedGremlin Actually not wearing a seatbelt 100% could hurt someone else. If you’re flying through the windshield there’s no saying parts of your body won’t impact with someone else’s

[@leumas4844]

CDC literally came out and said they cannot show a single case where a person got the same varient twice.

[@nosuchthing8]

Uh...yeah...thats what you would expect right? Covid keeps mutating around your natural immunity.

[@kuzadupa185]

Let's use a character whos vaccinated and boosted and STILL getting covid. Seriously this situation of drs and surgeons and even nurses who don't want to help covid patients and the hospital not wanting to give organ transplants to those who didn't get vaccinated is immoral, goes against the medical ethical code and if it still matters, simply wrong. What if someone dies who didn't get vaccinated, will you use their organs for someone who didn't get vaccinated? If the answer is no, then we now know its never been about the vaccine. The last 2 years have really opened peoples eyes to the truth about doctors and nurses. And those ridiculous dancing videos sure didn't help.

[@alonelychocolatebar1954]

"I already beat COVID" Yeah, 2 times, which means COVID has no qualms going round 3 on your kidneys and liver.

[@Red-Line71]

COVID has hands rated E for Everyone

[@danielstark8258]

The vaccine is less effective then natural immunity

[@alonelychocolatebar1954]

@@danielstark8258 yeah, tell that to the people who caught COVID more than once.

[@Sonder_V.]

@@danielstark8258 you'd be better off being vaccinated with a lesser chance of getting it or/and less severe symptoms then going the "natural" route where you are asking for the worst of it

[@VanquishR]

@@joshdenapoli9286 The vaccine lowers your chances; it doesn’t completely make you immune. Any protection is better than no protection, especially since Covid natural immunity risks death or permanent organ damage/failure.

[@nathankiefer9323]

Could you maybe talk about all the other medications that can help treat covid that are demonized so much that doctors fear even mentioning them to patients? The vaccine or nothing aren't the only options for treatment of covid cases.

[@mrslulus6468]

That would be nice to see as well, a bit of balance

[@YHLGguitargeek]

Yeah but Pfizer dollars, tho

[@casz7098]

I got covid 3 times. The 2nd and third times were from vaccinated people. I'm not vaccinated and each infection has been significantly weaker than the last. You do you boo boo.

[@penthesilliaas]

I really hope this video is old. Because having the infection does give better protection than the vaccine for omicron

[@bedazzledmisery6969]

I got a kidney infection from weak immune system after a very basic, common meniscus surgery. I can't imagine what liver/kidney issues due to covid would be like, my goodness!

[@MegaClank]

Oh snap, it’s looking like I might need a meniscus surgery, I don’t want that kidney infection; that sounds like it was horrible!

[@chancecarlson2023]

After all that's happened these past few weeks pertaining the vaccine stuff how are you gonna push that? And yes I'm vaccinated I wish I hadn't though.

[@atomdust74]

The story of the patient that went to "medical school" probably at the University of whatsapp lol

[@kodax1696]

I have no vac and I got covid from someone at work who was vaccinated. It wasn't bad for either of us.