Cowards take hostages -- Klingons do not.

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SkaIathrax

SkaIathrax

10 жыл бұрын

S01E20

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@BigJwlz
@BigJwlz 8 жыл бұрын
I'll say this for Yar: she knew to send more than two security officers to get things done.
@oatmealboy6
@oatmealboy6 8 жыл бұрын
+Jwlz T With weapons drawn too. Not like, "Hey, I'm supposedly a trained soldier in a bright red shirt, let me walk backwards into this cave where I heard a growling sound coming from."
@GoodAvatar
@GoodAvatar 5 жыл бұрын
You know, that's a F---ING GOOD POINT! One that I would *never* have thought of, but you're totally right!
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 5 жыл бұрын
Ya, too bad she had to go to an alternate Timeline to die properly😂
@CountryMetal01
@CountryMetal01 5 жыл бұрын
By being ratted on by her own daughter?
@pocahontaswarren1165
@pocahontaswarren1165 5 жыл бұрын
or send one vulcan
@shawnr888
@shawnr888 3 жыл бұрын
The thing people forget is that Worf wasn't a typical Klingon, he was the ultimate example of the best of what Klingons can be. He had the most idealistic view of what it meant to be a Klingon, and lived up to that standard without fail.
@murielleladouceur6414
@murielleladouceur6414 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Weird that he wasn’t considered a true Klingon because his parents were humans. Same thing for Spock : he was an idealized version of a Vulcan but never considered a true one, because he was part human.
@BlaneNostalgia
@BlaneNostalgia Жыл бұрын
Worf was written to be the Lancelot of this crew. As close as it gets to a perfect knight.
@SRosenberg203
@SRosenberg203 Жыл бұрын
@@BlaneNostalgia You mean other than the part where he banged the King's wife?
@Gamerafighter76
@Gamerafighter76 Жыл бұрын
Eeyup.
@MaybeDHitHim
@MaybeDHitHim Жыл бұрын
@@BlaneNostalgia didn't Lance mess around with the good king's wife and spark a civil was that led to the collapse of a strong system? Chivalrous indeed
@jamesgeorge7579
@jamesgeorge7579 5 жыл бұрын
That klingon looked so insulted when she said hostage
@martinpaulsen1592
@martinpaulsen1592 3 жыл бұрын
Inadvertently, and ironically, by misunderstanding their culture and ideals, Lt. Yar defused the entire situation. If she hadn't called the bridge, but waited for the Klingon to hand the kid back, Dr. Crusher would have had a busy afternoon.
@thirdgen377
@thirdgen377 2 жыл бұрын
Well, how do you react when you're called a coward when you've made no cowardly act?
@notnow1639
@notnow1639 2 жыл бұрын
Some valued their Honour more than others political figures military generals might sacrifice Honour for political gain but the less powerfully you are the closer you are to sto vo kor. then Honour matters alot more
@gudaran
@gudaran 2 жыл бұрын
yea b/c she overreacted for no reason, was simply greeting the curious child
@kirk1701
@kirk1701 2 жыл бұрын
That part always stood out to me with this scene.
@Sage2000
@Sage2000 5 жыл бұрын
I am glad they kept developing Worf for more than 10 years. Worf had an ideolized (archethypical, fantasy) image of klingons. This become very clear when he met his brother Kurn and later make friends with General Martog. Step by step Worf realizes the Klingon Empire is a corrupt and political enviroment where honor is not that important.
@Dorelaxen
@Dorelaxen 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the U.S. Everything is a veneer of righteousness and being the "good guy", but it's all just total and complete bullshit. I've lived here long enough to realize that.
@Sunokanse
@Sunokanse 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dorelaxen well, that's just mankind in general.
@Notkalas
@Notkalas 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dorelaxen That is really insightful but so few other Americans realize it. Our country is going to shit day by day but we keep hearing about America is best in the world at everything when that's blatantly not true. It's part of the mass media circus to keep average Americans from realizing their lives could be better if they'd just realize it and demand it. Same deal with the left vs right bullshit. Both parties are awful but keeping us divided and fighting each other means we can never unite against our corrupt govt. fucking us in every hole. It's getting so bad that in every other comment section you'll see some nut blaming it on "conservatards" or "SJWs" or some such buzzword serving to stop critical thought. Our govt. using the mass media has done a wonderful job dividing us and putting countless Americans in a sort of tribal mindset where they can't think critically. They act like everything their party does is great and the other side is full of evil morons. I hope to fuck people start to realize this before it's too late to turn the country around. So many recent events remind me of what happened leading up to the fall of the Roman Empire.
@Dorelaxen
@Dorelaxen 5 жыл бұрын
They won't. People won't. Mob mentality rules the day. Owning the other party is all that matters, being RIGHT is all that matters. I mean, ostensibly, the left is a better poison than the right. It'll make you puke, but you'll survive. The right is lethal, designed to destroy all in it's path. It's truly staggering the things humans will convince themselves of so long as they're RIGHT. It's almost a mental disease in some. These fools would stand there while Trump knocks on their door, steals everything they own, kidnaps their children, and slaps them in the face, all the while telling them "It's not me. It's not! It's Obama doing this. It's Hillary. It's Pelosi." And they'd believe him without question. Why? Well, we've always been at war with EastAsia, right? Only the party matters. The Inner Circle and Outer Circle and the Proles. The color blue is a liberal lie, so let's create a new conservative color to replace it, an AMERICAN color. So long as it's not Obama taking from them...so long as it's not a black man, they're fine with it. Own the Libs. BE RIGHT. I read 1984 in grade school, but I honestly never thought I'd live to see it come true. I was raised believing that the Nazi's were the bad guys in WWII (or at least more overtly evil than everyone else involved), but now they are essentially a recognized political party, and march in the streets, and if anyone DARES oppose them, they are labeled terrorists and regressives who want to stifle free speech. Cops blast anyone and everyone to death for looking at them cross-eyed, and are labelled heroes for it (I mean, that toddler WAS making aggressive motions toward that cop with the bazooka). They murder children without consequence. We have literal concentration camps at the border, with our Fuhrer telling us we have to kidnap children. For the good of the nation. I won't live to see it, but I hope, in the far off future (and it will be far, far off, thousands of years if we manage to not destroy ourselves, which is unlikely), that humanity lives to see every nation crumble. Every border erased. Every flag burned, and unite as one. Capitalism erased. Communism erased. Governments erased. And whenever greed and power mongers try to rise, we kick them back down to hell where they belong. Barring that, I'd be perfectly fine with a giant meteor turning Earth into a cosmic memory, because as a whole, we sure as hell deserve it.
@Sunokanse
@Sunokanse 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dorelaxen c'mon buddy, cheer up. We'll make America great again. Just as soon as we dispose of the liberals. I'm kidding!
@rprince418
@rprince418 7 жыл бұрын
"Except for all those times in the past, when we have taken hostages."
@TheStapleGunKid
@TheStapleGunKid 7 жыл бұрын
Just like Klingons are supposed to kill themselves rather then get taken prisoner by the enemy, but we see Worf and other Klingons being taken prisoner all the time.
@rprince418
@rprince418 7 жыл бұрын
TheStapleGunKid Worf I can excuse, being raised by humans and everything. The others really don't get a free pass.
@TheStapleGunKid
@TheStapleGunKid 7 жыл бұрын
But this is a point Worf often says himself. In the episode where someone tells him his father his still alive, he is outraged at the notion that his father could have allowed himself to be captured. Then later on he allows himself to be captured while looking for him. Why would he be upset at such a thing if he doesn't believe in practicing it himself
@pacmanplays4538
@pacmanplays4538 7 жыл бұрын
Martok explains it in DS9. Suicide is only permissable in captivity when no chance of escape remains. In any case. Klingons when captured will fight and make it impossible to be taken prisoner. Or organize resistance from the prisoner base. To be killed while escaping is death in battle. Especially if your sacrifice allows the others to escape thereby continuing the fight.
@apbrit2009
@apbrit2009 7 жыл бұрын
it's only dishonorable if he doesn't keep attempting escape until he's successful
@CharlesUrban
@CharlesUrban 7 жыл бұрын
Most children would be confused and frightened at an unfamiliar person, let alone a Klingon, taking them hostage. That little girl didn't even blink. Starfleet Tactical material right there, folks.
@roetemeteor
@roetemeteor 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Urban fight, flight, freeze.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 6 жыл бұрын
Humans of the 24th Century are exposed to a wide array of alien species.
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 5 жыл бұрын
Starfleet tactical nothin', she's already a top-level Section 31 operative. There were 73 different ways that klingon would have been dead before he hit the ground if he'd tried anything, and that's without weapons.
@FEARSWTOR
@FEARSWTOR 5 жыл бұрын
+World Comics Review Hell, by the time he picked her up she was already deciding how to dispose of the bodies of the security detail and choosing a cover story after she eliminated all witnesses.
@loboling9188
@loboling9188 5 жыл бұрын
Was actually Q checking up on Klingons, studying their behavior.
@tayzonday
@tayzonday 3 жыл бұрын
Denise Crosby isn’t lying. They gave her the most awful plots and dialogue in Season 1. If the phasers on set were real, I wouldn’t have made it past “Code Of Honor.” Kudos to her for quitting.
@tyrongkojy
@tyrongkojy 3 жыл бұрын
She had a few good moments, but yeah....... Also wow, Zonday is here.
@Areugay404
@Areugay404 3 жыл бұрын
she was so underutilized!!!
@lulzPIE
@lulzPIE 3 жыл бұрын
Worf was feeling some chocolate pain having to choose between the Klingons and Federation
@inertiaforce7846
@inertiaforce7846 10 ай бұрын
They should never put a put a little pretty woman like her as chief of security. A muscle woman would have been better. Or better yet, a Klingon.
@tayzonday
@tayzonday 10 ай бұрын
@@inertiaforce7846 Originally, I believe Marina Sirtis was security chief and Denise Crosby was counselor, but they got switched at the last minute.
@nickcecconi2022
@nickcecconi2022 5 жыл бұрын
"I would like to buy a vowel" "What letter?" 1:47
@huftgoldgold1520
@huftgoldgold1520 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed too much at that.
@Admiral8Q
@Admiral8Q 3 жыл бұрын
@@huftgoldgold1520 Aye.
@JonesNate
@JonesNate 3 жыл бұрын
@@Admiral8Q No, not I.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 3 жыл бұрын
RLY?
@theevilascotcompany9255
@theevilascotcompany9255 3 жыл бұрын
"I would like to buy a consonant." "What letter?" "Q." FLASH OF LIGHT "You rang?"
@mattwho81
@mattwho81 6 жыл бұрын
People seem to forget that Worf was raised on Earth, he grew up with an idealised vision of what Klingons are like. There's a lot of Klingon culture he didnt understand, later episodes even deal with the fact that worf wont kill the sons of his enemies or join an unjust war, whihc other Klingons found weird
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 5 жыл бұрын
Probably why he got along with Martok and the Kahless clone so well. Those represented the type of Klingons Worf wished were more in abundance.
@peppersaltman1805
@peppersaltman1805 4 жыл бұрын
There is good and bad in every group
@gamester512
@gamester512 4 жыл бұрын
@@seppmaier3424 You can help him (and vice versa) in STO, particularly as a KDF character where your initial storyline (starting with "Bringing Down The House") involves you helping Worf and the House of Martok deal with another Great House using dishonorable and downright treasonous tactics in an effort to destroy the House of Martok for purely bigoted reasons. Worf pretty quickly begins to hold you in high regard. Even early in the story for a KDF character, you run into multiple honorable Klingons, like K'Gan (who starts off as your B'rel's Third Officer and you as the Second Officer, only to become your First Officer once you gain command of the ship) and Ch'Gren (who joins you after you save him from Nausicaan pirates who ambushed him, and out of gratitude for avenging his par'Mach after your treacherous Captain killed her for trying to expose his treachery). Worf even offers you the services of a "former student" of his towards the end of the starting story for KDF players.
@Grashnook
@Grashnook 4 жыл бұрын
Thats part of his story; Worf grows up with Klingon history and beliefs but away from the corrupting influence of the emprie. He's probably the most pure Klingon there is. Its part of what drives their initial dislike of him; he's more of a Klingon than they'll ever be and it pisses them off. Its dramatic irony of the true Klingon being one who wasn't raised in the empire.
@scrimshaw7470
@scrimshaw7470 4 жыл бұрын
Not idealized. Romanticized. Like how people think of the wild west on modern tomes
@ExVeritateLibertas
@ExVeritateLibertas 10 жыл бұрын
The entire plot of Star Trek III was based on Klingons taking hostages.
@richx5064
@richx5064 10 жыл бұрын
Those where Klingons of another era. 100 years or so prior to the scene above. Things change.
@Hookan91
@Hookan91 10 жыл бұрын
On Wrath of Khan, Kirk said to Saavik "Prayer, Mr. Saavik. The Klingons don't take prisoners". But Kruge apparently was obsessed with getting prisoners because he wanted more information about the Genesis "torpedo".
@richx5064
@richx5064 10 жыл бұрын
Gustavo Orsi Countries that don't take prisoners take prisoners if it advances their cause. No problem there. I remember in TNG Klingons scream when a fellow Klingon dies. Then in the Undiscovered Country the Klingon Chancellor dies and no one screams. What's difference is time. I remember an episode where a Klingon ship called the Prang was about to attack Federation colonies. The Klingon ambassador mentioned something about, "Klingons of that era." Societies change over time.
@ExVeritateLibertas
@ExVeritateLibertas 10 жыл бұрын
Gustavo Orsi Rich X Prisoners are not the same as hostages. But okay you could explain it by evolving culture. (Of course we really know it is because of writer screw ups.)
@SFC3
@SFC3 10 жыл бұрын
Those were rogue Klingons.
@markconrad9619
@markconrad9619 3 жыл бұрын
Also Klingons always tip 20% minimum.
@joec9693
@joec9693 2 жыл бұрын
Honor demands it! As Kahless himeself said "Loyal service should be rewarded"
@DarthRadical
@DarthRadical 2 жыл бұрын
Cheapskates tip just 18%! Klingons do not.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
Only saps tip. Only double saps take jobs where they have to rely on tips.
@casualwoodchuck
@casualwoodchuck Жыл бұрын
@@jackdubz4247 you said it Mr Pink
@EarlJohn61
@EarlJohn61 10 ай бұрын
*Not in Australia*
@RobynHarris
@RobynHarris 5 жыл бұрын
One of the great parts of Worf was how he had created an idealized fantasy image of Klingon Honor, Only to have that imaginary dream shattered by his early encounters with actual Klingon culture. How he took that early disillusionment with Klingons and rebuilt into into a more realistic respect for the genuinely admirable aspects of Klingon society, is one the best storytelling arcs of the Star Trek Universe.
@szahmad2416
@szahmad2416 4 жыл бұрын
I am the son of immigrants to Canada, and I can tell you Worf relates to me on so many levels...except perhaps the physical prowess. It is absolutely amazing how the Star Trek TNG writers managed to embody so much of the pride, anxieties, illusions and subsequent disillusionment, conflict and tensions of so many immigrants coming to a Western country. And the manner in which what comes out of the process becomes a more robust, more complex and resilient character who manages to honour both worlds.
@jerodast
@jerodast 3 жыл бұрын
@@szahmad2416 Can I just say thank you for that wonderfully described thought. I've always loved Worf but never quite appreciated how keenly he represents everything you just said!
@szahmad2416
@szahmad2416 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerodast thank you very much for your kind words. And as a corollary for the people from the 'naturalized' West whom we look up to, please examine Picard again; this time, vis-à-vis his relationship with Worf. I wish I had words to describe it, but it's absolutely beautiful; accommodation without compromising Picard's own principles and standards; a deep appreciation of, and investment in, this culture that so many from his own background would consider brutal and backward; and the incredible ability for Picard to live up to even Klingon standards, as demonstrated in Sins of the Father. And you can imagine how Worf likewise admired him.
@Cresanova
@Cresanova 3 жыл бұрын
@@szahmad2416 Never thought of this that way, what a great analogy!
@mirrortoyourweakness9769
@mirrortoyourweakness9769 3 жыл бұрын
I do not agree with this. Your childlike attempts at gaslighting really only serve to embarass you. He may have learned bout the "actual Klingon culture" as you put it... but he NEVER compromised his integrity, HIS honor, his belief, his principles. Not once. Even when Kayhless (or whatever) turned out to be a clone, he chose to tell the Clingon PEOPLE, the regular PEOPLE, the truth. THAT'S integrity. I believe in my heart, but also in my mind, if we took that route long ago, things would be different. Things could be different. There would be turmoil of course, in the beginning, but the LIES, the lies you tell. You are not just dishonorable. You are delued. You are weak. You choose these lying, easy decisions because it is EASY for YOU. Because YOU profit from it. GTFO of my face #gangstalking maggot
@andrewwales8827
@andrewwales8827 6 жыл бұрын
10 Hour cut of Worf looking back and forth between the two groups.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 3 жыл бұрын
Picard: _Mr. Worf ... Let's not talk about this ever again._ Worf: _Yes, Sir._ Picard. _And by "this" I mean your future promotion._
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dowlphin worf: Ohh???????
@wubbsy1
@wubbsy1 2 жыл бұрын
Make it so.
@KneelB4Bacon
@KneelB4Bacon 5 жыл бұрын
I love it when Yar says, "we have a hostage situation" and Korris is like, "huh? what? No. Are you kidding?" Korris may be half-crazy but he's still an honorable Klingon. It never even occurred to him to take a hostage.
@Stealthwilde
@Stealthwilde 4 жыл бұрын
Or alternatively, he WAS going to take the girl as a hostage, but then realized that playing the "Klingon Honour" card could get the idealistic Worf on his side. Why else would he pick up the girl in the first place?
@Ryooken
@Ryooken 9 ай бұрын
@@Stealthwilde True because in the original series the Klingons had no trouble taking hostages.
@Dwohman
@Dwohman 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Dorn played Worf like no other could have. Amazing actor
@RoughNek72
@RoughNek72 Жыл бұрын
You're god dammn right!!!!
@daddystu7046
@daddystu7046 Жыл бұрын
Doing a pretty good job in the new Picard series too!
@cellulanus
@cellulanus 5 жыл бұрын
Gee, who would have thought having children wandering about on a frontier ship which frequently is used to patrol hostile borders might be a bad idea.
@WolfFireheart
@WolfFireheart 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, the humans might still have some overpopulation problems. Wink wink, nudge nudge.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
Ikr.
@dustinmcclung4497
@dustinmcclung4497 Жыл бұрын
you can't very well send people out to the outer edges of known space and NOT expect them to fuck.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
@@WolfFireheart Nah.
@willia3r
@willia3r Жыл бұрын
Imagine what the pilgrims went through, eh😏
@lucasbachmann
@lucasbachmann 7 жыл бұрын
Everything Worf knows about Klingons are from the memories he had when he was two and what he reads in books. Throughout the series he is perpetually disappointed in what real Klingons behave like. I wonder if children in the TNG era are indoctrinated into thinking Klingons are peaceful - which works until you are face to face.
@AtheistAlias
@AtheistAlias 7 жыл бұрын
Vikings? Pretty sure they're modeled more after the mongols.
@jasonbean7296
@jasonbean7296 7 жыл бұрын
+gothatway09 Muslim is not a race, it's a religion. many different people from all over the world are Muslims. as they are Christians and Buddhists. it's a bit more of a racial distinction when you get to Jews and Hindus.
@joeytheredkangaroo9393
@joeytheredkangaroo9393 7 жыл бұрын
I hope you are not American saying that.
@CulCritDecrees
@CulCritDecrees 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a not faith based religion?
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 7 жыл бұрын
CulCrit The Vulcans have beliefs based on logic, like murdering each other over sex
@foreverprime8852
@foreverprime8852 2 жыл бұрын
At 0:55 that little girl kept staring, unblinking at that Klingon. Showing no fear. Then at 1:06 that Klingon was smiling as he hands the girl to Worf. Like "This girl has a warriors heart."
@TheStapleGunKid
@TheStapleGunKid 4 жыл бұрын
I love how when Tasha reports the hostage situation to the bridge, she gets no response. I can just picture Picard up there on the bridge thinking "Yeah whatever, let the kid get fried, who cares? She'll probably just grow up to be a red shirt."
@burri06
@burri06 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine there was a dramatic swell of music and a camera zoomed in on Picard’s face, then awkwardly zoomed out and everyone got on with their day
@jadedixon3641
@jadedixon3641 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but we need more cannon fod... I mean, redshirts.
@Jermbot15
@Jermbot15 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, on the bridge. "Please tell me it's Wesley, please tell me it's Wesley!"
@Krokmaniak
@Krokmaniak Жыл бұрын
Either this or he was like "Nah. Klingons don't take hostages. Either there is no situation or they are already dead."
@KMEnterprise
@KMEnterprise Жыл бұрын
@@Jermbot15 😂😂
@aluisious
@aluisious 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing acting. I like how he turns his head one way, then the other way, then the first way, and back again. Kudos to the script writer too.
@georgevanhoose6333
@georgevanhoose6333 2 жыл бұрын
Dramatic head-turning: The hallmark of a classic TV series that had finally gotten its feet under it.
@700gsteak
@700gsteak 9 ай бұрын
Cuts back from the commercial break and he's still head turning. hahahaha
@Spearca
@Spearca 2 ай бұрын
It's like he's thinking one thing, and then another thing
@jerodast
@jerodast 7 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh, season 1 is...unique.
@tristanband4003
@tristanband4003 5 жыл бұрын
I like it well enough.
@RalphReagan
@RalphReagan 5 жыл бұрын
Like a cow patty
@MountedDragoon
@MountedDragoon 5 жыл бұрын
The music in this scene sounded like somebody added it later for comedic effect
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 3 жыл бұрын
jerodast yeah season 1 is awesome! People are very quick to bash the initial run of TNG and it does have a lot in common with The Original Star Trek Of Captain Kirk and Mister Spock 🖖. But I really love the first season of TNG . Apart from anything else it was showing what Gene Roddenberry would’ve done with TOS if he’d had the budget and hardware at his disposal. He kind of showed this on The Motion Picture Series but this was a new tv show so it was pretty good having a fresh Star Trek Show to lay the old jokes about pointy rubber ears and all the other old Star Trek jokes.
@vomErsten
@vomErsten 3 жыл бұрын
TNG S1 is basically the exact formula of TOS, but with updated visuals. I enjoy it because of that.
@ExMachina70
@ExMachina70 2 жыл бұрын
The line was delivered perfectly. The emphasis on "cowards" shows the disgust Klingons have such behavior.
@williamkelly6319
@williamkelly6319 Жыл бұрын
Picard one time tells Worf to relax, he responds," I am relaxed!!!" And then Worf says yes sir and departs the bridge. Awesome! Love Worf!!!!
@Omegatonboom
@Omegatonboom 3 жыл бұрын
That's probably the most I've ever felt intimidated by a security crew on a federation starship. Lol
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 3 жыл бұрын
I was worried they might all spontaneously start a dance musical, so I was on edge the whole time.
@TheStapleGunKid
@TheStapleGunKid 7 жыл бұрын
This is yet another demonstration of why having kids on the ship makes no sense.
@Elandil5
@Elandil5 7 жыл бұрын
Gene Roddenberry tried to portray the TNG Star Fleet as more civil than military. But in no realistic scenario would there be children or civilians on a Star Fleet ship unless they are being transported or rescued.
@TheStapleGunKid
@TheStapleGunKid 7 жыл бұрын
Civilian or military, there is no justification for allowing children on a ship that gets into dangerous situations so often. If the Enterprise was a ship owned by a private company in the real world today, the company owners would be drowning in lawsuits for constantly endangering kids so often, and probably facing criminal charges as well.
@brch2
@brch2 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it was ever stated canonically, or just as an explanation, but the Galaxy class was supposedly designed for 10 year+ science/exploration missions, able to operate WELL beyond Federation space, which would mean that they'd have to allow families to get enough people willing to be assigned on such a mission. And saucer separation was intended so they leave the civilians behind when they knew they'd be entering dangerous areas or situations. The first idea never came to fruition if it was the true intent for the ship's design, the second didn't get used to it's fullest extent. It was never meant to be a war ship, but got in more trouble than it should, which is why I think it was mentioned at some point (or again, non canonically) that the "experiment" of kids/families on starships was considered a failure, and almost totally done away with by the time the Dominion War started (and outside Enterprise-D and maybe another Galaxy class or two, civilian family members/kids were only allowed in very rare circumstances).
@Elandil5
@Elandil5 7 жыл бұрын
brch2 Gene Roddenberry I think hated the military so he wanted to show the TNG's Starfleet as something else. But the creators of DS9 showed the most realistic Star Trek series ever, as what would happen if diplomacy failed, because not everybody is willing to talk and sometimes you have to dirty your hands to save lives.
@brch2
@brch2 7 жыл бұрын
Elandil5 One of the reasons I love DS9, and am currently rewatching the last two seasons. So many great morality questions raised, especially about what's right and wrong when hundreds of billions of lives are at stake. I still consider the end of "In the Pale Moonlight" one of the greatest monologues ever. What are the lives of a criminal, a Romulan senator, and 4 of his aides against hundreds of billions of Federation lives, possibly over a trillion lives considering Klingons and Romulans?
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 3 жыл бұрын
If Tasha had lived, I could see the professional relationship between Worf and Tasha as Worf being the soldier, and Tasha being the cop.
@Kurayamiblack
@Kurayamiblack 4 жыл бұрын
Mom: "Oh, you took my kid... I'll just wait patiently and quietly right here until it's my turn again"
@jediknightjairinaiki560
@jediknightjairinaiki560 3 жыл бұрын
As a woman, in the presence of men, dealing with manly things, she knew her place.
@oddsdenver9673
@oddsdenver9673 3 жыл бұрын
@@jediknightjairinaiki560 Focking wot
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 3 жыл бұрын
Alternative: Mom attacks two Klingons holding her kid while a security detail is facing them with a Klingon officer in-between.
@OnlyTwoShoes
@OnlyTwoShoes 3 жыл бұрын
See how calm she was? He must have been the father.
@dorkmax7073
@dorkmax7073 3 жыл бұрын
Its a klingon. The fuck else are you gonna do
@jrny20
@jrny20 4 жыл бұрын
"Cowards take hostages. Klingons do not." Except for all the times you take hostages.
@ShadowHunter120
@ShadowHunter120 4 жыл бұрын
Those two klingons are more honorable than most of their species. To think they would rather surrender peacefully than use a conveniently placed child as a hostage. Something beautiful about this.
@gantmj
@gantmj 8 жыл бұрын
Those are true Scottish Klingons.
@Inthatgoodway
@Inthatgoodway 8 жыл бұрын
lmao
@asmrjunkie6613
@asmrjunkie6613 7 жыл бұрын
hoots
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 7 жыл бұрын
gantmj ??
@vikingfortiesfaeroes
@vikingfortiesfaeroes 7 жыл бұрын
"Those are true Scottish Klingons" As in 'no true Scotsman' fallacy?
@gantmj
@gantmj 7 жыл бұрын
Being a Klingon is not dependent on one's actions. No matter what a Klingon says or does, they are still a Klingon.
@jakedge3
@jakedge3 3 жыл бұрын
I like the look of genuine appallment he gives worf when she has the audacity to say he took a little kid as a hostage. he was like "is she serious?"
@ItsMotoMatt
@ItsMotoMatt Жыл бұрын
The foley work in this episode was pretty epic IMO. The sound of those Klingon uniforms is dope.
@liquidmark5081
@liquidmark5081 4 жыл бұрын
“Cowards take hostages, Klingons do not” Meanwhile in Star Trek 3...
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 3 жыл бұрын
Klingon cowards are like a cat falling from a roof with a buttered toast tied to its back.
@jerodast
@jerodast 3 жыл бұрын
"...these days."
@nick0875
@nick0875 3 жыл бұрын
I can assume that it means that the Klingons in Star Trek 3 were cowards.
@karlsmith2570
@karlsmith2570 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Kruge was basically a coward Because when he'd ordered his gunner to fire on the Grissom, he'd wanted to take prisoners
@pterodactylptroll
@pterodactylptroll 3 жыл бұрын
We have to remember that Worf grew up on Earth idolizing the idea of Klingons without actually knowing them. To add, ST3 had a specific group of Klingons, not necessarily representing the Empire and its culture as a whole.
@chieftech714
@chieftech714 Жыл бұрын
she doesn't realize how she insulted him to his face by thinking they would take a child hostage when they weren't even putting a fight.
@Commanderziff
@Commanderziff 3 жыл бұрын
I always wonder how many children died on that ship. When the borg carved out a slice of the Enterprise, how many little bodies drifted away with the others? I can see some instances where it's okay to have your family on board. The flagship of the fleet that is constantly be sent to different hot spots around the galaxy and exploring the unknown is not one of them.
@aperson22222
@aperson22222 3 жыл бұрын
I thought we’d have a problem too. It took Worf forever and a day to remember where his loyalties lay.
@knightofnyiuh
@knightofnyiuh 3 жыл бұрын
It's so amazing to me how they proved just because you look scary, doesn't mean you you understand children in a tense situation. To me a kid saw someone who she thought would be as abrasive as Worf, knowing him enough to think Klingons wont harm her, she is a badass character, even if she didn't know it.
@Pilot.0101
@Pilot.0101 Жыл бұрын
I swear I learnt more life lessons as a kid from Star Trek than I did in school.
@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459
@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459 Жыл бұрын
Worf was raised by humans in the Federation, growing up he had an idealized idea what Klingons were like versus what they were actually like. Then he meets and befriends many Klingons and builds a truly admirable respect for the Klingon civilization.
@SuperBigblue19
@SuperBigblue19 Жыл бұрын
I like how Worf started out as the comms officer & then added security to his job description and never complained about his added job duties or the fact they never gave him a seat to sit in. A true Klingon.
@mn5stoat169
@mn5stoat169 4 жыл бұрын
Tasha Yar : "Don't make me draw my hand vac ."
@berner
@berner 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this was one of the best moments of many in the series, especially since it was from season 1. That one simple line really helped to define some of the Klingon culture.
@nordfreiheit
@nordfreiheit 4 жыл бұрын
Worf is great because he's always holding Klingons to the highest possible standards.
@kuribayashi84
@kuribayashi84 4 жыл бұрын
"Cowards take hostages -- Klingons do not." *Cut to Kruge laughing in Kruge.*
@louisiananlord17
@louisiananlord17 8 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for that little girl. She was so brave about the whole thing. And Kurros, though he looked for battle in the wrong place, was a true Klingon to the end!
@MidnightSt
@MidnightSt 7 жыл бұрын
you run out to a corridor where a bunch of people stand and are looking at each other. one of them picks you up for a few seconds, then hands you back to your mother. where's the bravery? (also, yes, he handed the child to worf, who then handed it back to mother. which seemed, and still seems, very weird, bordering on silly, in that scene. and in general, the whole scene is kind of... weirder, sillier, than I remembered it...)
@CulCritDecrees
@CulCritDecrees 7 жыл бұрын
If by brave you mean blank.
@PeeboTyson
@PeeboTyson 6 жыл бұрын
Kristen Stewart got her acting skills from her.
@celzon8417
@celzon8417 5 жыл бұрын
not brave, more freeze up. But yeah, bad acting skill make this scene ridiculous.
@Romulan2469
@Romulan2469 9 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Klingon commander Kruge who took Kirk and his crew hostage on the Genesis planet.
@piiloaki7564
@piiloaki7564 9 жыл бұрын
Thats why that generations Klingons had such weak... Foreheads...
@Romulan2469
@Romulan2469 9 жыл бұрын
Piilo Aki They were acting more like Romulans. I wonder if they were shapeshifters or Romulans in disguise? A Klingon without honor would never reach Stovokor.
@MrBranboom
@MrBranboom 9 жыл бұрын
Piilo Aki You sound like a Ferengi. Honor comes from a Thundering Heart!
@CRocketSlim
@CRocketSlim 8 жыл бұрын
+Romulan2469 Kruge was a renegade Klingon though, mostly unconcerned with honor but mostly with his personal ambition
@blindio466
@blindio466 8 жыл бұрын
+CRocketSlim i think of him as a deniable asset, the empire swore he wasnt working for them cause he got caught :)
@JamaicanMeCrazy
@JamaicanMeCrazy 5 жыл бұрын
Cowards take hostages, Klingons do not.. Her: Oh?
@markus-hermannkoch1740
@markus-hermannkoch1740 Жыл бұрын
Worf, being so visibly torn, is positively cute! 🙂
@Mannwhich
@Mannwhich Жыл бұрын
On one hand you have bros who are good with kids, and on the other... a hot blonde!😉
@dhkfinancial
@dhkfinancial 6 жыл бұрын
"WHO I AM is not important! That I have *them* is." - Commander Kruge, Star Trek 3
@JeanBaptisteEmanuelZorg
@JeanBaptisteEmanuelZorg 7 жыл бұрын
The Dark Side of Klingons. Worf resisted it. Most admirable.
@iycephoenixx4249
@iycephoenixx4249 5 жыл бұрын
1:46 She conveniently placed blame on the hostage situation, escaped the wrath of Worf for questioning his place
@FawzieK
@FawzieK 5 жыл бұрын
My neck hurts from watching Worf look one way and then the other, over and over.
@jdb2002
@jdb2002 6 жыл бұрын
A tense "Who does Worf choose?" situation was ruined by the girl and mother. And instead of going back to the turbolift and going somewhere else, the mother walks past the Klingon that could have taken her daughter hostage.
@jamesgeorge7579
@jamesgeorge7579 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine so many other circumstances where that line would be horrifying
@masterelight8172
@masterelight8172 2 жыл бұрын
1:50 “That is not our way,” this needs a good spot in a key peice of dialog in the Mandalorian series. Just putting it out there.
@sargon6000
@sargon6000 5 жыл бұрын
"Cowards take hostages - Klingons do not." What about coward klingons?
@The_Str4nger
@The_Str4nger 4 жыл бұрын
Like Kruge?
@HacksignKT
@HacksignKT 4 жыл бұрын
@@The_Str4nger kek
@moogleplay9131
@moogleplay9131 4 жыл бұрын
Duros totally would.
@owlsayssouth
@owlsayssouth 4 жыл бұрын
Cowards, are not Klingons. klingon, is more than genetics. Duras for example, had to hide his Cowardice and Treachery. Kruge, is more complicated. he took prisoners, to try and discover the secrets of the Federation's weapon of mass destruction. the difference between a Hostage and a prisoner, is that the prisoner is an enemy combatant captured in warfare, while the "hostage" in this case is a child / civilian. klingons, as we see all the time, have some weird lines they are willing to draw. but then, that's what makes them human. mortal. and not just machines that always perfect in following the rules of their belief.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 3 жыл бұрын
Those are like a cat falling from a roof with a buttered toast tied to its back. (It will end up hovering above the ground spinning wildly along its axis. ... Which is the fate that awaits a Klingon showing cowardice.)
@GuukanKitsune
@GuukanKitsune 3 жыл бұрын
To those pointing out all the times in TOS that Klingons took hostages: TNG takes place a CONSIDERABLE amount of time after TOS, and a culture's values can change an awful lot in just a few decades. It could be that in the time gap, some Klingon philosophers managed to successfully argue that taking hostages was cowardly and dishonorable, and this was accepted by Klingon society as agreed for the most part. It could be their interaction with the Federation and seeing their own brand of honor caused them to review their own.
@tilasole3252
@tilasole3252 8 ай бұрын
Man of the cloth, if they chose, could take a hostage. It's fight or flight type of thing. Although you make a point, look at the Klingon counsel who willingly let Worf take the dishonour after they discovered (or already knew, but we're looking the other way) and the whole reason that even took place to start with. Also Gowron giving Martok even more impossible tasks on DS9. Not all had honour. And if honour, not the same that humans would perceive as honourable deeds at least.
@GuukanKitsune
@GuukanKitsune 8 ай бұрын
@tilasole3252 No society, whatever their moral values, is one hundred percent homogenous in adherence to those values. Simply put; there's always a bastard. However, the state of the _general_ adherence of a society to those moral values directly affects how that society reacts to breaking with those values... making deviance from those values much less likely.
@tilasole3252
@tilasole3252 8 ай бұрын
@@GuukanKitsune however what the viewer sees are bastards for the most part, some more than others, other than the exceptions.
@GuukanKitsune
@GuukanKitsune 8 ай бұрын
@@tilasole3252 This is because, as the bastards, they are the ones likely to be involved in something that would appear on camera. We see plenty of other Klingons as well... even antagonistic ones... who are exactly as honorable as Worf believes them to be.
@YD-uq5fi
@YD-uq5fi 8 жыл бұрын
That child actress is pretty good. Not getting scared by the monstrous makeup or anything (although we don't know how many takes this scene took, or if they had the child sit with the actors during application of Klingon makeup so the child knows who is underneath).
@CosmicUndeadElf
@CosmicUndeadElf 7 жыл бұрын
She was pretty brave
@flashbeaster
@flashbeaster Жыл бұрын
"Klingons don't take hostages" - Worf cut the dialogue abruptly, not mentioning the living shields
@JordanBeagle
@JordanBeagle Жыл бұрын
Legend has it Worf is still there looking back and forth
@letsplaysvonaja1714
@letsplaysvonaja1714 3 жыл бұрын
"You're not one of these people" "What do you mean, these people?"
@markherring3513
@markherring3513 2 жыл бұрын
Im just as dude playing a dude pretending to be a dude....and i aint going home empty handed.
@ashe4711
@ashe4711 3 жыл бұрын
This statement works on so many levels if you truly follow Worf throughout his whole development. He always held to a slightly romanticized version of Klingons, the rigid black and white book version, because he never lived with them to learn the grey areas. It's a perfect example in this scene, his pride that the warrior race of honor would never sink so low, but nothing is ever so black and white. It's how his character was portrayed forever and why he was held as the paragon of honor, loyalty, duty.
@az21bob666
@az21bob666 Жыл бұрын
i kind of like if you read story about knight
@stevengreen9536
@stevengreen9536 5 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest moments from next gen.Really made it worth watching. :)
@DanWeeks
@DanWeeks 5 жыл бұрын
I like how she's so casual about the fact that Worf hesitated about where his loyalties lie.
@theguywhowentthere3346
@theguywhowentthere3346 5 жыл бұрын
And now we interrupt this tense moment to bring you... - - - - A shot of the outside of the ship.
@meg-k-waldren
@meg-k-waldren 4 жыл бұрын
Jeez. I forgot just how thought provoking TNG storytelling was. Wow this scene alone is unlike anything I've seen in years.
@rubyweapn8312
@rubyweapn8312 3 жыл бұрын
I could listen to that a thousand times.
@zachflynn65
@zachflynn65 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much for uploading this
@Pasan34
@Pasan34 9 жыл бұрын
Yar's great-great-great-great grandmother, who was a nurse, also had a run-in with Dexter. It did not go well.
@TheLocutus70
@TheLocutus70 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they wouldn't let Ro Laren wear her Bajoran earing, but let Worf wear that Klingon sash.
@dreadlindwyrm
@dreadlindwyrm 4 жыл бұрын
Worf requested permission to wear cultural affectations. Ro Laren just wore hers without requesting permission from her new posting.
@jamierose9095
@jamierose9095 4 жыл бұрын
@@dreadlindwyrm This. Ro was rebellious and sharp tongued, she probably read books on the Resistance and thought all Bajorans behaved like that.
@Heart2HeartBooks
@Heart2HeartBooks 4 жыл бұрын
That would be Racist.
@Klemheist
@Klemheist 2 жыл бұрын
2 minutes of banter that could have been saved by Security opening up on their sorry asses. Worf too, he hesitated.
@VampireNewl
@VampireNewl 5 жыл бұрын
"In war, there is nothing more honorable than victory." also Worf
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 5 жыл бұрын
The Klingons are this really weird feudal kingdom that doesn't take hostages... :P
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 3 жыл бұрын
*) klingdom
@marychocolatefairy
@marychocolatefairy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna say for anyone not familiar with TNG, as a Public Service Announcement: Don't judge the whole show by Season 1. Heh.
@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8
@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8 3 жыл бұрын
It was ground breaking to have a Klingon in Starfleet back in the 80s
@thefez-cat
@thefez-cat Жыл бұрын
I've always liked the Klingon Crazy Eye they get when they start getting fired up about something.
@DraconianPolicy
@DraconianPolicy 4 жыл бұрын
Warf is referring to the idealized Klingon archetype, the heroic warrior of honor, integrity, valor, etc. All of that became corrupted over the years as the Klingon Empire became obsessed with power, deception, and intrigue, like all empires. There are Klingons that have adhered to the code and speak truthfully, but they don't last long against the corrupt forces conspiring against them.
@fjccommish
@fjccommish Жыл бұрын
In other words, Klingons like him.
@CRocketSlim
@CRocketSlim 8 жыл бұрын
On the minus side, they don't take survivors of their attacks prisoner either
@summermartin8821
@summermartin8821 4 жыл бұрын
i like how yar closes her eyes at the end. "oh, this crap, again"
@alfonsocantu9992
@alfonsocantu9992 2 ай бұрын
If anything Hamas should know that only cowards take hostages...yours very truly Alfonso Cantu USMC
@owlsofthenight_yt2000
@owlsofthenight_yt2000 3 жыл бұрын
I like how that little girl didn't even freak out. That girl has a klingons courage or I'm not a true star trek fan
@jimslancio
@jimslancio 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe she's just a Method actor.
@Whiteshell204
@Whiteshell204 5 жыл бұрын
*I wonder if Denise Crosby regrets her choice to leave TNG to go star in B-Movies... passed up a lifetime of royalties pursuing a career that didn't seem to workout for her...*
@DennisKovacich
@DennisKovacich 4 жыл бұрын
She did come back for an alternate timeline episode, and then again as her own daughter.
@pterodactylptroll
@pterodactylptroll 3 жыл бұрын
Life is about taking risks. From the outside, we call that a mistake, but hindsight affords us that judgment. To her, she was doing something that made sense at the time.
@luthermcgee3767
@luthermcgee3767 Жыл бұрын
That girl was so filled with innocense in her gaze that I remembered her from the episode. I watched every single one because of my fascination with the Borg though.
@henrimatisse7481
@henrimatisse7481 10 ай бұрын
great scene and i do love Tasha Yar. Named my beautiful black cat for her. Yar is the description of an impeccable boat/ship
@billthompson5644
@billthompson5644 5 жыл бұрын
LT YOR had a ROCKIN BODY.
@jameswatsonatheistgamer
@jameswatsonatheistgamer 5 жыл бұрын
Yar
@bradunderwood5684
@bradunderwood5684 5 жыл бұрын
bill thompson. She posed for Playboy if memory serves me
@germanicelt
@germanicelt 5 жыл бұрын
Look up 'Red Shoe Diaries' with her and you can see her in bikini (topless too).
@ezekielglenn5009
@ezekielglenn5009 5 жыл бұрын
That thick dark headed mom is way sexier
@wolfmantheimpaler
@wolfmantheimpaler 3 жыл бұрын
"Cowards take hostages, Klingons do not" Every Klingon who's taken hostages prior to TNG: Ummmm.....yeah, that's right......
@brettbaxter7882
@brettbaxter7882 3 жыл бұрын
They were my... guests! Yeah, that's the ticket!
@Broockle
@Broockle 5 жыл бұрын
Those long awkward pauses...... I don't miss 'em xD
@Darreleve
@Darreleve 11 ай бұрын
Convince my phone is listening, literally watched this episode yesterday and now it’s on my feed!?!?
@scientificbrony
@scientificbrony 5 жыл бұрын
Except for all the times klingons have taken prisoners and hostages.
@eaglesalldayable
@eaglesalldayable 4 жыл бұрын
Greendawn21 Yeah he’s saying their Cowards and Same with Humans...
@iiiDartsiii
@iiiDartsiii 7 жыл бұрын
why don't they just teleport them into the cell?
@jackjones298
@jackjones298 6 жыл бұрын
Since Star Trek is apparently racist now (???), the transporter can only lock on to white people and Klingons have to ride in the back of the prison bus to the detention center.
@jameswatsonatheistgamer
@jameswatsonatheistgamer 5 жыл бұрын
Because tension is key
@Burt1038
@Burt1038 5 жыл бұрын
Because reasons. Shyut up.
@Bacxaber
@Bacxaber 5 жыл бұрын
Teleporting someone against their will should be seen as murder. Nobody ever forced Bones to use the teleporter, afaik.
@Milkman4279
@Milkman4279 5 жыл бұрын
Probably because the brig is transporter beam shielded. The tech that keeps someone from beaming people out of jail, is the same thing that keeps them from beaming people in.
@milestrollokopolous8842
@milestrollokopolous8842 2 жыл бұрын
"Exactly, they won't expect us to take hostages because we are Klingon! It is the perfect plan, sir!" ".... you snbvtch I'm in..."
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich 2 жыл бұрын
"Any suggestions, Admiral?" "Prayer, Lieutenant. The Klingons don't take prisoners."
@333angeleyes
@333angeleyes 3 жыл бұрын
From watching the first season it always appeared that originally Worf and Tasha were really close. I wonder if she would have stayed on would she have eventually become his best friend instead of Riker, and would she have eventually become his love interest instead of Troy?
@edspencer7121
@edspencer7121 5 жыл бұрын
》Tosha-'Situation diffused Captain' >Warf- 'OOOHHHHH??' 》Tosha-'Well.....yaahh!! Because I'm head of security.......' >Warf-'OOOHHHHH??!! "MOMMY!!!" Aahhh.........yup. Situation diffused.
@padraicglynn2657
@padraicglynn2657 3 жыл бұрын
And what's so stinking about it?
@kynchan3332
@kynchan3332 4 жыл бұрын
Children are wonderful they can defuse a situation so quickly. Any normal person would not harm a child.
@roobear78
@roobear78 2 жыл бұрын
thank god for the shake up in season 3 1 & 2 so grinworthy watching now
@tomrodgers6629
@tomrodgers6629 Жыл бұрын
The klingon actor nailed it. I like how the moment Yar insulted him by saying he had taken a hostage you could see in his eyes he wanted to kill her where she stood. TNG is still the best version of Star Trek.
@theghost8914
@theghost8914 Жыл бұрын
Always will be. Nothing against the new stuff though. All of it is pretty damn good. But TNG will always be the pinnacle of Star Trek. Enjoy your hot earl grey!
@twocansams6335
@twocansams6335 Жыл бұрын
@@theghost8914 Star Trek needs to be made by people that know what they are doing, if the team that made the Expanse were given a Trek series it would be next level.
@jossgoyanko7006
@jossgoyanko7006 6 жыл бұрын
I always wondered... Why don't they just beam then into a holding cell?
@genmaicha.lapsang
@genmaicha.lapsang 3 жыл бұрын
One of the recurring plot elements that showed up accross TNG and DS9 was that the Klingons despite their high ideals were a corrupt and decadent society on the verge of collapse. It culminates in a conversation between Ezri and Worf near the end of DS9.
@bearVshark100
@bearVshark100 10 ай бұрын
This was the first episode of Star Trek I ever saw and this scene got me hooked.
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