COWS THAT EAT OTHER COWS? - Project Apollo(Cattle seedworld) Ep. 2

[@reeceshugrue6167]

Thank god KZbin gave context about the Apollo Space Program to avoid misinformation! 🤗

[@gillriet773]

I laughed at that too 😅 thanks youtube 👍

[@KingDrakoTyrell]

Stup-tube

[@MajinObama]

I thought this video was about Rocky 3!!! Darn…

[@mathewritchie]

Prevent misinformation?That doesn`t sound like YT.This is likely the result of brilliant AI,real flesh and blood morons probably wouldn`t know about events that happend before the internet.

[@MrBrineplays_]

Ah yes, the cow landed on the moon 😂 KZbin is wild

[@trashrat8365]

Honestly I feel like the carnivorous cows would've just de-volved their gums on their upper jaws to instead grow a spike or "beak" directly from their skull to dispatch prey. The molars would still be useful for that transitory phase of Apollo cows mooving from plant to meat based diets.

[@weirdredpanda]

That's a good idea. Maybe some will take that route.

[@kalilcardososnowtrooper7364]

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to look more similar to animals like entelodont over time?

[@magokulo1341]

You really put "mooving" in there... lol

[@Jamal-xj1vk]

I could also see them evolving tusks

[@nethergollum4219]

evolution doesn't exactly go backwards though tbh, even if the trait in question doesn't exactly need to exist anymore it would still exist and even if the dental-pad doesn't serve any use anymore the molars will probably end up being used as the new incisors by then

[@matthewbadger8685]

The reason that predators don't use horns is because horns are inefficient uses of material compared to teeth. With teeth, you can capture, restrain, kill, chop up, and partially digest food. With horns you can only kill. A predator that has only teeth will always be more resource efficient and fast than a predator that has teeth and horns.

[@ravioli_826]

There have been horned predators in the past. Carnotaurus comes to mind.

[@glarnboudin4462]

Counterpoint: Swordfish. Not to mention that this isn't a world where efficiency is particularly necessary, at least not yet - there's literal tons of meat just lying around. Not to mention that horns could absolutely be used for all of those purposes save for partial digestion. Not to mention getting through thick hide and prying open ribs to get at nutritious organs.

[@loganrosenberg5026]

@@glarnboudin4462 That's still part of its mouth. It's an efficient adaptation that works in that specific scenario. There is a reason that predators do not use horns to kill, and counterpoint to the carnotaurus comment above, I have not seen anywhere outside of video games that suggests they would have used their horns to kill.

[@ravioli_826]

@@loganrosenberg5026 theory is they used them against rivals during mating season, similar to deer and such. I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just saying it isn’t nonexistent.

[@shanerooney7288]

HOWEVER, horns are a great defensive tool. Or, aggressive tool that isn't linked to eating. (eg: mate selection, territorial aggression.)

[@user-sm6lt8lq1o]

I wonder if grass on Apollo will ever evolve to take the niche of trees. Forests of grassy trees populated by arboreal cows. It’s sounds surreal and I love it!

[@OxyToxyNT000]

Grass has already done that on earth. May I introduce you too: bamboo

[@rac1equalsbestgame853]

Bamboo Which would favolitate giraffe like cows to knaw the tops and ground cows with probably bite forces above most of our predators for the extremely tough stems

[@TheGreatUnwashedThing]

I suspect it would take a mass extinction before forests start to really develop on Apollo as the cattle will for the time being just eat and trample any tall-growing grasses before they become true forests.

[@TheAnalyticalEngine]

Will any cattle evolve into...sea cows? 😆

[@HexaDecimus]

How bout sky cows?

[@redballet7611]

That would be interesting

[@magnenordstrom8129]

Probably

[@Car_made_of_cheese]

@@HexaDecimusseeing a flying cow would both be funny and weird😂

[@happynihilist2573]

Probably, it's not even that hard. Jus evolve stronger lungs and some blubber and your good to go and live in a pineapple under the sea

[@vulthuryol8051]

You could name the new carnivore genus something related to the minotaur. I propose something like: Asterionoides, meaning "akin to Asterion" (the name of the minotaur) or Minofelis ("cat of Minos")

[@lorenzogarompolo8074]

Definitely Asterionoides, that's a perfect inspiration

[@KianaWolf]

I'll second Asterionoides, perfect name for a bovine that adapts to eat its own clade.

[@sKYLEssed]

Cat of Minos sounds pretty metal So I guess it's a 2 to 1 atm

[@stuchly1]

My brain went directly for Carnotaurus. 😂😂😂 Asterionoides is an absolutely incredible idea!

[@EstebanThrives]

Super sick idea

[@griffinives866]

Ideas for scientific names: 3:29 ) Taurus Titanicus (meaning Titanic Bulls) 3:55 ) Taurus Maxillus (meaning Jawed Bulls) Also I love this series! 👍

[@jaylonsantos1650]

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[@NuclearspartanX]

3:55 Looks like a cowhog to me

[@kaden.slone04_biology]

I doubt they would still be in the *Taurus* genus at this point of evolution.

[@tianasantos3525]

3:55 Deinobos atrox

[@eduardomorrone5692]

Second one could be Taurivora leocorpus (Bull eater with lion body)

[@caedenide8721]

The straight-horned one will be what I call *Carnibos dolichoceros*, which means "Meat bull with elongated horns". The second one I will call *Tachybos atrox*, which means "Quick bull that is fierce". Those are the genus names I chose, but I have common names as well: "The straight-horned carnotaur" and the "spotted carnotaur" respectively..

[@Alien_Evolution]

Carnotaur sounds awesome

[@Tsuruchi_420]

Carnibos, this is excellent

[@carrott36]

Hold on, are we reinventing the dinosaurs here? I won’t complain too much. 🤷‍♂️

[@donavanzook6496]

I can't wait until we get to 500 million years in the future and see flying cows!

[@omegaotaku1342]

that will be way better than the flying nightmare spiders from alien biospheres

[@nopjhg]

Cow eggs

[@masonmachell683]

@@omegaotaku1342spiders do fly but not really. they kinda glide using their webs

[@omegaotaku1342]

@@masonmachell683 yeah I knew about that, I was talking about Biblaridian’s series about evolution

[@fabriziobiancucci7702]

You should contact the artist that make Serina or other speculative projects and asking him to draw your speculative cattle world, it's too beautiful

[@partyzombie6211]

i think it was dylan bata?

[@aaleven4728]

He does commissions from time to time

[@skeepodoop5197]

I'd recommend seeking help from Trollmans for help with the invertebrate species. He also branches out into things besides just serina, so they're no stranger to other projects. The lad's snarks are absolutely amazing.

[@TheStupidRaptor]

No he should not. Sheather is a very toxic individual who hosts an echo chamber. This Alien Evolution needs to stay wholesome and away from any drama.

[@Sara3346]

​@@TheStupidRaptorThis is news to me. Can you share more?

[@Dullahan00]

In terms of herbivores evolving towards carnivory, I quite like the example of Thylacoleo. Its molars evolved over time from eating grass to shearing flesh and is almost unique in the way it did it.

[@KKkacperro]

Plants evolve too, so seeing a giraffe-like cow adapt to a tall plant diet would be cool to see.

[@gamingcat6034]

thank you, KZbin, for providing context about the Apollo space program on a video about A PLANET OF COWS!

[@KingDrakoTyrell]

Fr

[@shanerooney7288]

KZbin knows something we don't. its a conspiracy, man. But the truth is there if you're willing to see it.

[@CompDecPas]

Big carnivores and lots of invertebrates seems like a great motivator towards burrowing behaviors.

[@KingDrakoTyrell]

Mmm diictodon pigs 😮

[@shanerooney7288]

Or nest building. I want to see cow mud huts.

[@cosmosyn2514]

@@shanerooney7288perhaps such behaviors would be accompanied by shovel-like horns that would be able to dig up dirt and scoop up water

[@buzzlightyearpfp7641]

it would be hilarious to see Unicorn-like horns develop to impale prey

[@shanerooney7288]

* to impale predators. Prey use horns. Predators use teeth and claws. just an observation on Earth animals.

[@MajinObama]

(Space) RAINBOW UNICORN 😭

[@matheussanthiago9685]

narval cows narval cows

[@user-lt4yd8kh7w]

Im interested in seeing if something similar to trees evolves in this planet

[@Cranberrie123]

Probably a bamboo like grass would come first. Perhaps eventually evolving to an odd sort of tree, since that niche would be vacant.

[@Ledinosour673]

COW TREE

[@carrott36]

@@Ledinosour673A tree of cow flesh would be awesome.

[@weirdredpanda]

​@@Cranberrie123Then followed by something like palm trees, because they're in the grass family as well.

[@KianaWolf]

And there is selective pressure to outgrow the reach of herbivores... Which means giraffe-like forms may evolve to exploit the new niche. Long beef!

[@_Radiator_]

Yessss, just found this series a day ago and already a new episode. Finally something fresh in the speculative evolution part of the internet. Still waiting for biblarion, though.

[@adamverstegen2761]

Same, lol

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

Ya can't wait for episode 15, but I hope he will decide against ending it as it is so good, or at least having some kind of continuation of it

[@imalltheragex2000]

3:27 common (as in none scientific name) name idea: The Apollain Stake Horn. Due to the horns being use to piece pry like a stake to a vampire or a stake being hammered to the ground

[@CuteFuzzyWeasel]

The grass should also be changing, taller more sturdy grasses bamboo like with heads of long green leaves, kind of like tree ferns

[@sleipnirthe8th339]

We should take the lack of Birds and the abundance of insect (Grasshoppers) under great consideration. Since not only can they change to adapt but they could definitely act as a crucial part to the cattle lives. Like in Parasitic relationships or even being rivals to the common Food source.

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

Probably the little cattle would fill the niche to eat them.

[@sleipnirthe8th339]

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 definitely, or even other Locusts might evolve to fill a anti parasite niche like dragon flies.

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

@@sleipnirthe8th339 Not impossible since they are already cannibals.

[@sleipnirthe8th339]

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 as for small cattle, i think it definitively needs another million years till they Probably reach a small enough size and build to climb on other cattle’s back to do somewhat of a Decent job at Cleaning. I’d imagine they would look kinda like Small goats or rodent(like squirrel) combined. The question of how they will achieve such a build for climbing without any trees or mountains is beyond me. Since the only thing they can climb are other bigger animals, I guess they have to change strategy than most other anti parasitic animals

[@prcervi]

@@sleipnirthe8th339 cattle are surprisingly good jumpers and fairly agile on rocky terrain as is on earth, flat open plains of grass are just better for quickly raising up fat cattle

[@BrownOwl2036]

I'm not an expert when it comes to evolution, cows, or other ungulates, but perhaps some cows have their horns become serrated and move to their jaw area, becoming almost like outer teeth or mandibles as they move up and down as the cow moves it's jaw.

[@hoshikun6605]

For the tackling predators I'd call them "Styracotauros" or "Pointy Bull" and the swift predator could be called "Deinotauros/Dinotauros" or "Terrible Bulls"

[@dausboot3997]

Perfect names! Let the age of the Dinotaurs begin!

[@fionaredfern7519]

Hello there! I love this series now. I found it recently when episode 1 came out and I already love the intriguing concepts behind it. In my opinion, At least one of the Carnivorous Cow species should be named something like Dinotaurus ("Terrible bull") or Smilocornus ("Knife horn") for the Species name or either Sabrehorns or Sharphorns for a more common name.

[@Narutalia65]

Bovines are my favorite category of animals idk why. This series makes me unreasonably happy.

[@Ahaa686]

Waiting for mole cows, bat cows, cheetah cows, qoetzocoatluz cows, trex cows whale cows, florescent peacock cows, waterbteathing extremely atavistic cows and sentient arthropod cows.

[@motozappa225]

starting from generalists i think they'd evolve cursoriality, reduce in size and hunt in packs first (still retaining herd sociality but adapted to carnivory), then evolve in more specialized (and bigger sized) predatory nices

[@BigBossMan538]

I’m glad this is continuing. This is too good of an idea not to expand on. Keenan Taylor of Tales of Kaimere could help with an art piece or two. I’m starting a seed world project too! Still deciding on the canon species, but I’m looking forward to beginning it proper once the list is complete.

[@dudotolivier6363]

What is the dominant/base species of the Seed World that your setting will follow ? If you have already an idea of it ? At least for sure, not a Cow, not a Canary like bord, or an Hamster, as these were already taken.

[@weirdredpanda]

How about ants as your canon species? Have them on a planet with the right conditions to allow them to get larger and eventually develop the systems to overcome their size limitations. You'll probably want to have at least one other species like Serina had small fish for the oceans.

[@BigBossMan538]

@@dudotolivier6363 It’s seeded with life from the Brazil and the Atlantic Ocean (so the oceans are healthy). It’s a world that’s intended to be a nature reserve, a garden for harvesting various plants, and ecotourism. But it’s abandoned after there’s a resource war on Earth which leads to WW3. There’s an ecological catastrophe in South America which inspires this project in this universe. There could be other planets in this setting dedicated to Africa, Australia, etc! I intend to make it an open discord project like Parias, another spec project here on YT, where people can contribute creations to be featured. Then, I’ll make a website and or YT channel for it

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@BigBossMan538 Nice !

[@BigBossMan538]

@@dudotolivier6363thanks. I need to do the reptiles, amphibians, fish, invertebrates, and flora next. Would you like to join the server when it’s live?

[@caseycannon1038]

It would be interesting to see how arboreal species would evolve from a hoofed species. I'm picturing hooves either becoming sloth-like hook claws or pinchers like chameleons

[@jerryworshiper1587]

i can just imagine some random guy running around with a shotgun and shooting random cows and when he's asked what he's doing, he says "i'm hunting the cannibal cows"

[@xavier84623]

Can u do some episodes on the bugs? I’m curious how they are filling their own niches, how they interact with different bovids, how they are shaping the environment.

[@weirdredpanda]

I was going to comment on this if someone else had not. Also, he needs to talk about the other species like the flatworms. I think that's what the one picture was.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

Want to see how the grasshoppers are doing.

[@Wyvernatus]

The rise of carnivorous cows.. or rather, Cownivores. I’ll see myself out

[@justanotheremptychannel2472]

I came to the comments for this pun

[@HexaDecimus]

Run away from your cringe and never come back.

[@puttiplush]

I left nearly this same commenta few minutes ago on the first video and I don't know if we should shake hands or do the walk of shame together.

[@Orgs_Rock]

I was thinking of nameing the cow at 4:08 either diablos, after the demon, and the game with the famous demon cow levels, or a brazen, after the brazen bull. Either way, im just happy to see more planet apollo.

[@yourfreepapa1590]

We should definitely focus on aquatic cows!

[@IsRickIV]

Please make more of these! This is the most unique take I’ve seen on Seed Worlds.

[@Feranogame]

I love planet Apollo so damn much

[@dragon091327]

I love Seed Worlds, currently working on a few of my own, with my favorites being an abandoned Australia-sized biodome on Europa, and a world with anoles

[@namehere4922]

I think it’d be funny to name one of these predatory cattle species Carnotaurus

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

Carnobovis

[@aaleven4728]

Honestly I love Seed Worlds so much and I'm glad more are taking off, I do have a project that I'm trying to work on but from studies, a game I'm developing and lack of direction I put it on hold. About the carnivorous cows, my first thought would have been something similar to Duikers: small bovids from Sub-Saharan Africa infamous for the amount of animal matter that usually only eat high quality foods such as fruits and seeds instead of grass. Or something more like cows that became increasingly smaller to reduce competition and due to not being able to afford large stomachs at this size they would go for higher energy food sources such as grass seeds and the insects eating the seeds themselves. Maybe they could also grab a small piece of soft meat such as organs from a large-horned cow's hunt, which wouldn't pay attention to them. These small cows could even start to harden their Dental Pad with keratin for a crushing surface (I believe dental pads have a small coat of keratin in them, correct me if I'm wrong).

[@joshuagonzalez4183]

c u t e

[@aaleven4728]

@@joshuagonzalez4183 ...what?

[@joshuagonzalez4183]

@@aaleven4728 my bad.. edit: I thought about the idea of cute-yet-murderous little cattles was such an brilliant idea that it’s not even funny XD.. (yeah.. I’ll about to shut up rn….😶)

[@JustforSchool-wb7gq]

You’re putting this stuff out so fast! I was expecting a month’s wait, keep up the good work!

[@viorp5267]

The horns growing from the base might be more useful in blade vs sharp pointy sticks. Continously growing horns means a continously resharpening blade like rodent teeth. They could evolve to be a V shape so the hunting strategy would be to charge an animals neck and either cut it with the charge or tackle it and slit it's throat open that way.

[@Thegrrog]

Please make more episodes, I would really like to see how cows would adapt to fill other environmental roles. Like for example tree climbing cows or maybe flying cows…

[@Insanity_TM]

Can’t wait for the next one

[@JoseELeon]

Let's gooo!! I was fully expecting to wait several months for the next part

[@aidancox4656]

Woo! another episode! love this, please keep it up!

[@ishill85]

nice to see the follow up so fast. i think i would have made the chargers a smaller pack hunting breed and the large carnivores i'd have just given big sharp hooves, but i'm interested to see how this all evolves. definitely need some insectivore cows, water cows, and tree grass. like a map too, look at "alien biospheres" by bibliodarion, different land masses can evolve in different directions and those land masses can diverge or reconnect.

[@sheeeenogoji7603]

I'll call the first cow Acertaurus unum (First Piercer Cow), and the second Lochobovis adephagiai (Adephagia's Ambush Cow, named after an ancient Greek goddess of gluttony).

[@MorkiMoo]

Just my luck, I watched the first episode about three hours ago and the next one is already here! Keep up the good work.

[@thebossfrost3417]

I’m very happy this got a part 2 so quick I was thinking it would be around a month

[@amazingaquaticsandexotics3030]

camo cows would be a cool concept, they would be smallish, have markings that resemble various stationary objects in their habitats, can slightly change color to match surroundings and stay extremely still when approached. also relatively small, scrawny, blind and transparent cave cows that scuttle around in caves where they feed on straggly bits of moss, algae from small pools and cave insects.

[@randomchannel1184]

I thought I liked the last episode, but now we’re really picking up some steam. And only 10 days after the previous episode? Keep up the good work, and you might have a new subscriber on your hands.

[@deussalt4479]

I'm really interested in seeing what comes next.

[@skeepodoop5197]

Finally, Carnotaurus. (I recommend the name Torocarno).

[@skeepodoop5197]

I also can't wait to see how invertebrate species evolve, especially in marine ecosystems!

[@YuYuBunnyVTuber]

I feel blessed I was wanting more after part 1 yesterday and now part 2 came! Thank you!!

[@ladahieno2382]

oh I've been waiting for this! As for the carnivore cow how about "Carnem Amychi" - Meat Grazer - from Latin and Greek

[@Alien_Evolution]

That sounds pretty awesome

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

@@Alien_Evolution I made some ideas too but that is much better than I could do

[@Alien_Evolution]

@@areallyshortbrontothere You can still make something! Not everything has to be youtube level quality(and I'm guessing you CAN reach that quality with some practice). I'd love to see it

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

@@Alien_Evolution yea just very cool name!

[@yodaspielberg]

Very interesting. Another interesting aspect would be the plant life. Many grasses can take on much taller, tree like shapes when the opportunity arises. And in that initial collapse of the ecosystem as the cattle over ate the environment, I'd expect the plants to diversify as well. You'd likely end up with forests of tall grass, like a bamboo forest almost.

[@MoarCheeseBirb]

KZbinrs describing fictional dangerous cow in the 21st century: Pliny the Elder describing fictional cows in the 1st century: “so it poops a long distance and that poop burns whatever it touches like fire”

[@xavier84623]

I feel like the charger predator could be a viable body plan for a super predator who hunts exclusively megafauna.

[@SashedPotato]

Do you think a cladogram could be possible? I'd love that and love the series so far! I hope if one clade takes to the water, it can be related to the horned predators, so they survive in a different niche to the clearly better adapted predators

[@3jtaylor]

I think in the last video you mentioned cows eating seaweed. I can imagine coastal cows eating seaweed and whatever crunchy critters might be in the sea weed; crabs, etc. Then the cows further adapt to start digging crabs out of the sand. Either with modified digging hooves, horns, or even jaws. If they spend a lot of time on sand they'll probably evolve to be lighter and have splayed hooves to distribute their weight.

[@loptercopter1386]

holy cow

[@devonhill9099]

A few gripes… 1. The cows evolving carnivory seems pretty fast. Especially since they had a nice migration system going on. It seems it might take a few million years more like serina and it would seem more feasible. I would have done it like this: original herbivore > scavenger > boar-like convergent > carnivore - over the span of maybe at least 5 to 10 million years. 2. Just because horned carnivores have never happened before doesn’t mean they can’t happen for this planet! I think it’s very possible for horned carnivores to exist since horns would be icing on the cake for most major predators: territorial disputes, defense from bigger predators, goring prey, slashing prey, mate selection, etc. Not having them would be an evolutionary detriment since they’re pretty good weapons on top of teeth & claws!

[@andersonrusnell3102]

You could name the second predatory cow, Apollosarchus similar to the prehistoric Andrewsarchus.

[@OxyToxyNT000]

Only problem is andrewsarchus is more related to hippos than cows

[@KingDrakoTyrell]

@@OxyToxyNT000 true

[@seagullman87]

One thing I'd like to see as this project develops is a basic clade diagram, just to keep track of hove everything evolves from the base species.

[@basilcurrie8138]

Certain species could have scent glands. Scent glands have untapped potential for speculation and aren’t usually considered.

[@jayav2877]

Forward facing horns with the tip hooked may be useful in hunting too. Running parallel with pray and grabbing hold with the hooks or picking at the heads similar to how terror birds where proposed to hunt. I like these videos!

[@KingDrakoTyrell]

You should call a species of the carnivorous cow a “ carnocow “ not as a scientific name, but as a refrence to the carnotaurus, which was a dinosaur that is nick named “ the meat eating bull “

[@JohnDoe-ib3hr]

Absolutely love this series! i'm working on my own involving Signal crayfish. Love the concept of prey turned predator.

[@matteorossi8240]

First hell pigs, now we have hell cattles💀🐮

[@joewesterland5697]

I personally love the detail. The fun if these kind of projects is that through the speculative exploration of alien biology it is possible to get a deeper understanding of our own planets biology. Thats only possible by getting into the nitty gritty.

[@skyblade57]

Given the lack of any large or woody plantlife, I have to wonder if the grasses on Apollo will end up evolving into these niches, or if the constant grazing would prevent any adaptations of things like thick stems that could eventually become bush & tree trunks or Bamboo.

[@ajmontgomery335]

Love it

[@lorierush6561]

I just found this channel. I'm loving it. I would like to see a seed world based on other kinds of animals. Maybe one based on rabbits or one on cats or dogs.

[@thomaswaithe6833]

Are we going with the assumption there are no cattle parasites on this world? Seems like they might want to get in on the game.

[@Alien_Evolution]

The lifeforms that were brought here were pretty carefully selected. Not even a single fish swims in this planet's seas. Even so, a few parasites probably got through, and had their own diversification event. Maybe I'll make a video on it!

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

@@Alien_Evolution I was about to ask about fish, but now I have a new question, why no fish?

[@Alien_Evolution]

@@areallyshortbrontothere Fish could evolve into rivals for the cattle, like in Serina

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

@@Alien_Evolution ah

[@kazarofchult8086]

For aquatic bovines you could build water buffalo equivalents, and a bovine equivalent of the hippo. You could also make small duck like cows that specialize in pond living and diving.

[@mtreding]

Epic (also first)

[@_wierly_animations]

Nah i was

[@mtreding]

@@_wierly_animations How do you know

[@_wierly_animations]

@@mtreding i commented when i saw no comments

[@mtreding]

@@_wierly_animations same also I don't care

[@_wierly_animations]

@@mtreding k idc that you dont care btw

[@BurningSunBloodyMoon]

This is an interesting series! Regarding predating with horns, it may be beneficial for the horns to move to another area - moving down to become more like tusks, or moving to the nose so it can be swung about faster. I could see a pair of short, curved horns on the end of the snout being effective when rapidly swung up into the side or underside of prey - wounding prey like this may not make for a quick, controlled kill, but the predator could then stalk the wounded animal until it collapses. For alternative predator dentition, I'd advise checking out the Thylacoleo, or marsupial lion, which has teeth very unlike those of felines and canines but still filled the same predatory niche, so predatory cows could develop something very weird as well. I could see predatory bovines developing long saber-like teeth/tusks from their lower jaw, and adapting to be able to open their jaws very wide to make use of them - somewhat similar to a hippo. Maybe the incisors become sharp killing "tusks", while the molars adapt for slicing meat? Of course, predation begins an arms race between the predators and the prey, so it'd be interesting to see how the prey evolve in response. Tougher skin with osteoderms, like rhinos? Big horns? Larger size? Some might go the "gazelle" route, becoming lithe and fast, possibly adapting into something similar to horses. I'm not sure how fast plants tend to evolve compared to animals, but it'd be interesting to see how the grasses adapt as well - using the migrating cattle to disperse seeds, perhaps? Developing thorns and toxins to avoid being eaten? They might develop large roots or tubers that survive the periodic grazing, bouncing back the moment the cattle have moved on, which then creates a hidden source of food for *other* cattle to dig up and eat. Some might develop fruit to encourage cattle to eat them and distribute their seeds in their fertile manure. And of course, with no trees, some species might start growing taller to get at the sunlight. All of these would create new niches for cattle to speciate into exploiting, too!

[@obrasilius6733]

I love your content

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

I was surprised that the big bois evolved carnivory instead of the small ones as the ladder is more common on earth, at least that ive observed in the fossil record like in canids, felids, tyrannosaurs, mesozoic mammals like meatherians such as didelphodon and stuff. Very cool!

[@Bullboy_Adventures]

Its name should be, the cannibull!!!

[@LeoTheYuty]

Awesome video! This project is awesome.

[@Afish404]

I love this!! Speculative evolution has been one of my favorite things to watch from time to time, cause the creativity in making viable evolutions for animals (especially if the animals are earth animals) is just amazing. Can't wait to see what happens next

[@davidniemi6553]

Thanks for continuing the thought process. I think you have some good points. Other directions might be: 1) weakness of defense by cows in a cattle with no predators. Even small insects, parasites, or microbes; or sea creatures might rise to such a challenge with so many tons of tasty beeves available. 2) deer seem like an obvious deevolution from cows -- they need less food, are faster, and reproduce rapidly like rats.

[@Tsuruchi_420]

YEEEES, i am unreasonably captivated by this concept!!!!!

[@rebelrider3361]

I'm a third generation beef cattle rancher. I also have goats. Cattle will chew bones for the minerals they contain, so I suspect that what would evolve first would be a bone crushing jaw. These cattle could make use of the minerals in bones. Then they might start eating fresher meat, soon killing calves by crushing the fragile calf bones. Another thing not mentioned here is that cattle are herd animals. This means the predatory cattle might work in a pride, taking down prey by circling around and isolating the weak. Now, we don't see horns on modern predators, but some dinosaurs that ate meat did have horns, so I could imagine a critter not losing the horns.

[@maskey4675]

Absolutely love this idea, cows are one of my favorite animals and I love speculative evolution so this is perfect for stimulating two hyper fixations

[@DarKinder]

I waited so impatiently, im so happy it dropped 😭

[@epicgamerman7887]

It would be interesting to see the rapid changing of the heavily grazed grasses. Some subspecies branching for deeper holding and stronger roots. Ones that resemble more like potatoes to store it's energy to be able to regrow the leaves. Or grasses that grow tougher leaves, maybe with a light, bitter, toxin to allow for larger and sturdier leaves. This would provide niches for cattle that either devote themselves into rooting or light digging to uproot the nutrient dense root stalks. Or, a subspecies of cattle which develop calloused or hardened upper gums, so their lower incisors can actually cut the stiffer leaves. The second cattle offshoot could also evolve more forward molars, like with the carnivorous line but to tear or break off more rigid leaves

[@pherrisfallus7259]

Long horns, I feel, would be vulnerable to breakage from quick movements especially if impaled in a struggling animal. Alternatively the skull could broaden and become more robust with the horns shortening to small and stout spikes on the top of the skull. This would help with cow tipping and impaling but not be at risk of breakage Hooves becoming a more specialized killing tool would be interesting. Pulling meat from bone also tends to require holing down the prey with a foot while pulling with the mouth. Large hooves would make this easier but might lack sharpness. Might be too fantasy but I envisioned one where the horns substitute as teeth by growing long fairly flat and bladelike beside the skull and pointing down alongside the upper jaw. A convergent evolution of the Sabre teeth

[@Henryfordisright]

I appreciate the haste you made to bring this material but would rather wait for more content in one video. Keep going!

[@ethandoingstuff1433]

Thank you for these great videos with amazing video frequency, but of course, don’t buen yourself out. We will understand if you need a break. ❤❤

[@fancysimp7651]

YESSS PLEASE DONT EVER STOP THIS SERIES

[@Slyeyewalker]

I’m imagining a small potentially long tongued cow that evolved to hunts only insects

[@puttiplush]

Oh delight! A second ep. Thank you for your dedication. Also I find your art charming and fitting to the ranch theme: it reminds me of old American tattoos and the early pastoral paintings. In terms of naming species, which the comments seem quite invested in, do as you'd like and don't break a sweat about it once speciation really takes off. It'll be useful to have names for the major lineages, but they don't necessarily have to be Neo-latinate. Recognisability and comprehension of the terms should in my opinion reign supreme. I find it equally easy to follow new species terms in Neo-latin such as porphyriphyte AND those following the English trend of calling everything a pig a lion or a deer. (Guinea pig, sea pig, mountain lion, marsupial lion, musk deer ...)

[@lufsolitaire5351]

I could see cattle evolving into a Mesonycid-like predators like Daeodon, Andrewsarchus, or Enteladonts. Especially since they aren’t too far off as both cattle and mesonycids are artiodactyls.

[@anthonyporche8110]

Just letting you know, your Apollo project has inspired me with an idea for my own seed world project with bats. I'm currently calling "Planet Nox: the World of Bats" after the Latin world for night. So far, I'm planning to start with a common insectivorous microbat (Little Brown Bat) as the base species. Then, I'd explore how they diversify once their insect prey do so first and especially once carnivorous bats start appearing. Overall, there's quite literally a world of possibilities here, at least for Planet Nox!

[@Alien_Evolution]

Oooooh I'd like to see it!

[@httydfan7060]

New Cattle concept: "Magnurex" A large carnivore that evolved their frontal legs to be much larger and stronger than their back legs. The creature ranges in size from rhino-sized to elephant-sized. Instead of having horns like other cattle, they have no horns at all. Instead, their forehead is covered in bone in a dome-like shape. A massive tail on the Magnures's back is used for defense and stability while walking. The weight of the Magnurex (at maximum) can reach 7.5 tons, although these types of cases are rare. Large, knive-like teeth the size of bananas allow the Magnurex to tear apart meat from prey.

[@parkerthanyou]

Cattle with frontal horns remind me of triceratops build, you might want to research on that, expecially how they evolved enlarged craniums to act as "shields" where multiple members of a heard would present their heads toward predators while surrounding the weakest members like the calves. Speaking of calves, they would probably be the primary targets of any predator

[@lasagner9567]

As opposed to a completely grassy planet, I would be interested if the planet had many diverse biomes and was simply devoid of other vertebrates for any reason suitable (maybe the humans that put them there got rid of all the other vertebrates if an explanation is needed.) It would be interesting to see how cows might evolve in radically different climates, especially those with many trees and dense foliage.

[@rac1equalsbestgame853]

With the aquatic cows, I feel they would start with wide hooves to walk through soft terrain, followed by denser bones to move through water and large strong lips for water plants, into something akin to a less aquatic less gracile hippo, and I imagine some would retain this body plan while others become "sea cows or even start going into cetacean like forms and carnivory may evolve independantly a second time in some of them, probably as aquatic insect eaters As carnivory goes by it's interesting how this limited dentition could evolve into something better meat suited could be Thylacoleo as one mammal that did exactly this kind of transition (from a less especialized herbivove tbh but example still goes) and the dental pad could get some modifucations to get some kind of use in restraining dificult prey. Body form wise I picture the first true efficient carnivorous cows would most closely resemble pigs in body plan then something andrewsarchus (or whateever it's name the carnivorous artiodactils that resembled our modern carnivores but with hooves) before eventually some redeloping claws or more claw like hooves

[@bzdurek6701]

I feel like horns upfront would be really a problem. When you hunt with them, this body plan would increase likelihood of breaking horns, which would render the cow unable to hunt, or breaking of necks, looking at the point of balance. I think shape of horns is important, as it's a quality that already have a lot of diversity, and would be easy to bread some particle way. As those predators would hunt for cattle, blunt force trauma would be ineffective, so no ram horns. Hunting tools should also be eather durable or easy to replace, so I would opt out from long and pointy horns. I feel that the most beneficial would be eather something like Musk deer tusk (possibly even evolved from down shaped horns) or hooked horns able to slash critical points on other cows throat. I could absolutely imagine sealth cow with similar tactics as a big cat.