CPAP POWER: Run your CPAP without Shore Power OR a Generator!

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@Margaret-1661
@Margaret-1661 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, Robin I’ve been with you since you started and you just keep getting better. No drama on your channel. You just provide excellent solutions and suggestions to very real problems in every single video. Excellent job!
@valeriesokola2981
@valeriesokola2981 4 жыл бұрын
I so agree. Because of Robin I am now going RV living full time October 1st. ..I have never owned a camper or RVbefore.
@CeeCeeImohlaapohko
@CeeCeeImohlaapohko 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! This was so nice of you to do. I do not have a CPAP but I am in the health field so this really touches my heart. I have met so many people that feel constricted because of their machines. Thank you so much for doing this for people. You never cease to amaze us with your information. Bravo, Bravo can you tell I am a fan of this channel. LOL
@Satyr1965
@Satyr1965 6 жыл бұрын
I bought this on your suggestion and I really like it! I have an OLD CPAP and it used more than Doug's, but I still had 67.5% charge remaining after a good average night's sleep. THANKS for this video!
@David-nn7vo
@David-nn7vo 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You! We just bought a pop up and my wife has used cpap for 26 years; this looks like a great solution . Wish everyone would quit patting themselves on the back for finding your math error. This information is a life saver. I just liked and subscribed.
@CreativityRV
@CreativityRV 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!
@ronmothershead8896
@ronmothershead8896 6 жыл бұрын
We run two CPAPs off 2 six volt 200 ah golf cart batteries in series for 12 volts. I don't have the 12 volt adapter plugs, so we run ours through an inverter off the house batteries. I'm not going to question your math, but I figure with two machines running 8hrs we use about 40 amp ours total per night. Volt meter has us at 12.8 to 12.9 starting the night and usually around 12.6 by morning. We have solar power that charges the batteries back up during the day. We boondock exclusively, and have had these results for 5 years. Just wanted to share our personal experience. We really enjoy your videos.
@northtexas4110
@northtexas4110 6 жыл бұрын
My hubby uses a cpap.. Very useful and thank you!! Ok he is out of excuses!! lol!!
@suzyq3746
@suzyq3746 6 жыл бұрын
Robin I think you are the best out there that has tapped into the nitty gritty of RV'ing. You provide so much valuable information... I know you said you research and you sure do... you have figured out real fast a niche. One smart lady. Thank you....
@stahpit1971
@stahpit1971 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! My wife and I plan to begin van life soon. I use a cpap to sleep and have been doing tube research on the issue this video is just what people on cpap need to see. You are the perfect example of what youtube should be real people doing real things. No acting for cam or cutsie dances.
@jodyseaman1885
@jodyseaman1885 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, just starting to use a CPAP and I remembered this video. Good information and I feel better knowing I can travel and be safe while using a CPAP.
@redchick-o-ree9336
@redchick-o-ree9336 6 жыл бұрын
With all the differing opinions being expressed here, I sent my husband to the garage for his Kill-A-Watt meter. He checks all the electrical items I want to use in our motor home. I use a ResMed AirSense 10 machine. The label on my machine says it uses 1-1.5 A max. Plugged into the meter, it is only drawing .11 to .15 A with my heated humidifier on also. We were surprised at the minimal draw so checked the meter on several other electrical devices (lamp, toaster and coffee pot) and it is spot on! Currently we run my machine off our coach battery through a 150W pure sine inverter. We hook the coach battery to a small 100 W solar panel to maintain the charge and the battery also charges if we run the generator to use the air conditioners, microwave or something else. Our system is working great for us.
@kelliethorne1200
@kelliethorne1200 6 жыл бұрын
You probably measured the watts on the cpap during the intitial warm-up period when it is at a very low-level of pressure so minimal wattage. Depending on the air and water temperature, the humidifier might not have been heating very much, either.
@chriswilliamstunes1
@chriswilliamstunes1 6 жыл бұрын
I as looking at yeti and Kodiak. The Kodiaks are awesome for larger uses but for a cpap and devices. the price cannot be beat. too cool. Thanks
@bettywith2girls
@bettywith2girls 6 жыл бұрын
All right, so you've already had a few people comment already. On the sheet of white paper, 1.5 X 110 = 165 (not 150); 165 / 12 = 13.75; 13.75 X 10 = 137.5 would be the final number. Any number X 10 you just move the decimal point one to the right. It depends on how many zeros you have. Any number X 100 would move the decimal to the right 2 places; X 1000 would move it 3 places, X 10,000 would move it 4 places, etc. That's OK...happens to the best of us. I don't use a CPAP but this is very beneficial for those that do, Robin. Another informative video. Thank you for making one of these. God bless.
@pinkybene1
@pinkybene1 6 жыл бұрын
Where were you when I needed a math teacher? I am a soon to be a solo older woman with my cpap so thanks. I am so glad to have found your site. Smart and solo!
@CreativityRV
@CreativityRV 6 жыл бұрын
Apparently (as many have commented), my math was a bit off ☺️
@af1023
@af1023 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and thank you. I’m a bit of a camper and take the CPAP with me. I built a LiFePo4 30Ah solar generator in a tackle box, with a 12vdc regulated power socket. I use 40% of the capacity every night with the CPAP and recharge with solar panels. An excellent alternative is the lithium battery pack you showed.
@TheDragonflyCottage
@TheDragonflyCottage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Robin. I am gravely ill and bedridden now but I am so enjoying your vlogs. No, I have never lived in an RV or traveled in one, but always wish I had. Anyway, I have to use a Bipap machine for my lungs, and both of my adult sons use cpap. I live in Florida where we have hurricanes. During a hurricane my one son will be here with me. We have a generator that will work my oxygen machine, We can’t run that until the storm stops.I thought the battery you showed would be great for our pap machines. I can use it during the day and my son can use or at night. I am sure we will have many other uses for it too. I went and bought the battery on amazon through your link. You are not only helping mobile people. You are wonderful. Keep up the dream for me too. Stay safe. Hugs.
@DebbieGeez
@DebbieGeez 6 жыл бұрын
You always have the best topics. So many real life things most people don't think about.
@DillPickles86
@DillPickles86 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. My mom has a cpap. She doesn’t camp or anything but there have been times where we’ve had tornados and other severe weather and have been left without power. Thank you 🙏.
@DeliaLee8
@DeliaLee8 3 жыл бұрын
You just helped me so much! I've been going around in circles not knowing how to figure this stuff out and here you provided me a formula and other great info!!
@Endless_Skyway_Adventures
@Endless_Skyway_Adventures 6 жыл бұрын
It can get a bit more complicated than using the number from the back of the machine. If a humidifier equipped machine is used the humidifier may have it's own plate which may or may not have to be combined with the number from the base unit. The draw will also vary depending on the therapeutic settings and humidifier level as well as heated or non heated hose. The best way is to record the actual draw from your machine with your settings with a 25 dollar Kill-A-Watt meter, then use that amperage to determine battery requirements. The important thing is that you are showing that CPAP users can go camping with a relatively small investment. Even a Walmart deep cycle battery and Walmart charger can bring the freedom to travel. Thanks for sharing this. I have a history with deep cycle battery use that pre dated my Apnea diagnosis so I didn't realize that some users felt tethered. Good topic so thanks again. 😃
@elizabethtaylor4448
@elizabethtaylor4448 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. For years my hubby & I felt we had to go to a campsite & have electric hookup. Technology got a whole lot better & gave us options. We have a portable solar panel which tops up our leisure battery during the day on our campervan . We dont have an invertor fitted but can run his Devilbliss cube on 12v. We can power his cpap machine all night & charge our phones & use internal lighting all in the evening after dark & hardly affect the leisure battery. The solar is a backup only. We went to an electrical vehicle fitter to have an invertor fitted & he said we didn't need it & we would need a lot of battery power for using it or it would mess up our battery. Check before you use an invertor . We really didn't need it at all. Unless you want to power a microwave or a laptop you won't need one. You can also power your cpap from a portable battery bank like the small multi function jump start packs you can get. That will give you multiple nights before you need to recharge. We are currently in Europe using Aires to stop overnight at . Electric hookup is not always available so this setup is great. Do look at your machines on the back. It will have a 12v label if you can use it that way.
@bibby42
@bibby42 4 жыл бұрын
I have that exact model, and I also have a smaller one. They are awesome if you have solar panels. Nothing beats free power.
@marty6055
@marty6055 6 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! your subscriber numbers are climbing so fast. That's because people (like me) appreciate the research that you put into your videos. Thanks...
@CMcBru
@CMcBru 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the CPAP power lesson. It was just what I was needing.
@renaissancepoet
@renaissancepoet 6 жыл бұрын
Talk about perfect timing. I'm a new subscriber, I'm currently shopping for a used RV to live in full time, AND I've just started using a CPAP machine. Thank you for the video!
@jillsmiles
@jillsmiles 6 жыл бұрын
Robin, bless you for doing this video! I watch them all and you always have such a no-nonsense, no drama approach. I LOVE your videos. My husband and I not only boondock when we camp in our motorhome, but we also have an off-grid cabin in the mountains. He's always just not used his CPAP on those nights we don't have power...until now! Thank you! I now know what I'm getting him/us for Christmas!
@mentalmadness5402
@mentalmadness5402 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for breaking this down for us. This was sooo helpful!
@cherylfritz17
@cherylfritz17 6 жыл бұрын
I saw this video come up in my feed several times before I clicked on it. I think my brain does some weird thing because every time I look at the thumbnail or even the title of this video at first it ALWAYS looks like it says CRAP POWER. (lol) Love ya to pieces. You have an amazing personality and I really appreciate your videos.
@linda4899
@linda4899 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome job Robin, as with all the videos you do! Best info channel on rv issues. Just wanted to add that the power used by a cpap device will also be dependent on which type of device used, how much pressure the person requires (the higher the pressure settings the more the power draw), and whether you're using the device humidifier with it. If you need some humidity and want to save on power, you could still add water in the humidifier chamber, but leave the humidifier part turned off (no heat, water remains room temperatue). Small devices like the one shown (sometimes marketed as "travel" devices) have smaller motors, without a humidifier, and therefore use less power. Thanks
@somemedic
@somemedic 5 жыл бұрын
When I called the folks at renogy this was one of the questions I asked them about. I'm so glad you went over it and I'm probably going to purchase that power supply that you have. I've seen several at CPAP stores that for a few hundred more I could have a better Swiss army knife power supply the power other items. Thank you Robin
@propbraker
@propbraker 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to explain and show numbers and percentages and calculations, etc. You really broke it down for us to understand, thanks!
@ABQdoubleG
@ABQdoubleG 6 жыл бұрын
I purchased a lightweight lithium battery pack made for my model of CPAP, which will last for 2-days of use and then I bought a similar model solar generator so I could recharge the battery pack and other items like the laptop, cell phone, etc. Maybe a bit redundant, but I think it will do the trick for me. Thank you for doing this video, it was informative.
@jasonjjj27
@jasonjjj27 3 жыл бұрын
Ty for showing me how to do the calculations. Good video.
@caroleindfw7741
@caroleindfw7741 3 жыл бұрын
Cheery Hello! Truly appreciate your time! What a wonderful thing you ae doing for all of us our here. Thanks ever so much!
@gelfring098
@gelfring098 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video! I love that it was simple to follow for conversion of power needed. My husband and I both use cpap and love camping and have felt stuck only camping where there was hydro. This will be a game changer for us!
@Darrick.DamitaJoBoy
@Darrick.DamitaJoBoy 3 жыл бұрын
This was such a helpful video! I'm new to van life and wondered how I would do this with my cpap. Definitely the best video I've seen on this. Thank you!
@dlafery2123
@dlafery2123 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! You come up with the best ideas for videos! This was a concern for us for future boon docking. TY Robin!
@ran6110
@ran6110 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice video on a subject that few have covered well! The chart showing how you calculated the power needs was excellent! The Aeiusny units square design and handle reminds me of an 80's and 90's "Boom Box" I've shared the link on a few Facebook groups like Hymer Aktiv Owners and Wannabees and of course Leisure Travel Vans Enthusiasts!
@judyabernathy80
@judyabernathy80 6 жыл бұрын
Great info Robin. As a Cpap user, this info will be very helpful to me when I start rving!!
@kitkatz2042
@kitkatz2042 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this video! I've been looking for a good CPAP video for a year. This is very well done. The formula to figure out how much power is needed to run a CPAP is the best! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
@gloriashaeffer6776
@gloriashaeffer6776 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Robin, I don't use cpap but both my daughter and her husband do and they use our RV occasionally .This is great info for when they do, also the lithium battery is going to be added Thanks for the great info, Take care ,stay safe and BE FREE!!
@jackiemiller1648
@jackiemiller1648 5 жыл бұрын
C pap is my challenge and now I m feeling encouraged,thank you Robin.
@kellyskornerk3624
@kellyskornerk3624 6 жыл бұрын
I used a CPAP for awhile, until I couldn’t tolerate it. I switched to the TAP system, which moves the jaw slightly forward. Snoring is gone, and sleep apnea also. It is a life saver for me, and no need for cords, electricity etc. LOVE it.
@myozbubble
@myozbubble 6 жыл бұрын
I hope this very informative video gets into the hands of all those folks that need to know this. Robin, you are the go-to rv guru for info.
@hw2326
@hw2326 6 жыл бұрын
Great info! Translates well to evacuation needs too.
@jackiehiaring7805
@jackiehiaring7805 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks again I have been wondering how to figure out how to figure for an oxygen concentrator I need at night only. Now I can get what I need. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!! WRTR HERE I come!
@judithanderson9394
@judithanderson9394 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. I use a CPAP and felt it was a ball and chain.
@laurajphillips
@laurajphillips 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I'm gonna have to start out in my car! This is like a miracle ! Thank You!
@CarrieMtn
@CarrieMtn 4 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this video. Thanks again.
@alvaradacosta293
@alvaradacosta293 6 жыл бұрын
Look at you Ms. Thannng. (Wink) (smiling) With your purple streak..hair (I like it girlie) I work in the medical field....and I am a bad patient....I have sleep apnea... and you did a really good job explaining this Thank you my friend.
@offthehook4u
@offthehook4u 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this!!! It is really helpful to those of us who have no solar or house power. This will make boondocking so much more comfortable!! Very much appreciate your taking the time to make this video!! Safe travels to you! 👍🚐🤗
@DMosesRN
@DMosesRN 6 жыл бұрын
Bless you :). You always provide direct to the point valuable info. You are giving courage to get out their. I’m a RN and as soon as i find a work from home job I can do on the road I’m going.
@kathyharger1502
@kathyharger1502 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’m a CPap user and wondered what I will need when RVing! Love your videos!
@abeasley8235
@abeasley8235 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your information. I will definitely be checking out this as I'm coming closer to my dream of roaming.
@redapron5795
@redapron5795 6 жыл бұрын
Really excited to see this. I don't need a CPAP but I do need my nebulizer so this is good info. Thank you.
@angiesparks4684
@angiesparks4684 5 жыл бұрын
My Aeiusny arrived today (8/2/19). I was so apprehensive when trying to make a decision on what to buy. I am happy with this purchase. Good video. Thank you
@piccman1
@piccman1 3 жыл бұрын
I just ran across this video. Power need is 137.5. You might want to check your arithmetic before you post next time but the information is good.
@annafernando6816
@annafernando6816 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! You make all the electrical stuff so much more clear to me! Much appreciated!
@TariAkpodiete
@TariAkpodiete 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very useful video for those of us who need to use such devices. I actually have an APAP machine which is similar to a CPAP but for people with a bit more worse (bad grammar) issues.
@bookbakery
@bookbakery 5 жыл бұрын
I use an Auto BIPAP machine. I have never heard of an APAP machine. I going to get one of those for the home for power outages. No more hotel rooms!! I never even considered that I could use an RV because of my auto-BIPAP machine
@andreablum6154
@andreablum6154 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've been looking for this exact information.
@hillbrown9672
@hillbrown9672 5 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought about it but this might be something I can do because I don't have enough plugs outside. Great information as usual.
@birddyy12
@birddyy12 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a c-pap, or bi-pap; but I will have other uses for this and didn’t know about this portable charger! 😊 thank you for your videos! You rock!
@jessicaalford886
@jessicaalford886 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this great info! I've been concerned that I couldn't do long trips or van life because I don't have power to run my CPAP and I'm not interested in doing solar, etc. This seems like the perfect solution now that I know the "formula" to figure this out. Life saver!!
@simply4me950
@simply4me950 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! My husband uses a cap and this will definitely be an addition to our life.
@justinphelan9539
@justinphelan9539 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to the battery pack?
@ermaabrazado5145
@ermaabrazado5145 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. I just bought a 1991 Roadster without a generator and I’ve been trying to figure out what to do until I get a generator.
@bobvincent4841
@bobvincent4841 3 жыл бұрын
Great video THANK YOU
@larryclark6212
@larryclark6212 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You I will get one.
@sarakeeling3916
@sarakeeling3916 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this...exactly the info I needed when I could not find it anywhere else!
@Paperlover123
@Paperlover123 6 жыл бұрын
You are amazing! Thanks so much for sharing and teaching on so many subjects! It is comforting to see just how little you actually need for the C-PAP!
@Mia-N-Dan
@Mia-N-Dan 6 жыл бұрын
Robin I just love your videos, we are wanting to transition to nomadicLife, and youve been an inspiration. Keep doing what you do and stay free
@waynemass2110
@waynemass2110 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Just picked one up
@Akartavor
@Akartavor 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Very helpful thank you.
@carlaharris8268
@carlaharris8268 6 жыл бұрын
Love every video you put out there ! The research you put into a project is outstanding. Thank you again for all of your tips for RV living. We hope to be out soon...
@LaCatLady
@LaCatLady 6 жыл бұрын
I stored your Solar Generator link on my Amazon Shopping List for future purchase. I plan to order it within the next few months but house/Medicare insurance premiums put the kabash to getting it right now. So you should see credit for the sale in a couple of months. Another great video...tfs.
@Banannaspot
@Banannaspot 3 жыл бұрын
this was helpful but my husband's cpap is much bigger at 6.7 amps. So definitely helpful to figure out needs.
@jannwebb
@jannwebb 6 жыл бұрын
The worksheet is great!
@gwenerikson7356
@gwenerikson7356 6 жыл бұрын
More wonderful information...Miss Information Robin. I watch ALL you posts and enjoy your enthusiasm ...thank you ! 🌺
@noreenn6976
@noreenn6976 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! Almost 31k subscribers, your channel is growing super fast, good for you!
@CreativityRV
@CreativityRV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Noreen!
@RicardoRoams
@RicardoRoams 6 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much I appreciate this video. Thank you!
@rogerwilliamson9745
@rogerwilliamson9745 2 жыл бұрын
DC power adapter plugs do not match with resmed s9 with this power supply!
@Endless_Skyway_Adventures
@Endless_Skyway_Adventures 6 жыл бұрын
CPAP power consumption varies with the users therapeutic settings and how much they use their humidifier if so equipped. Mine uses 5.75 Amps. The best way to know is to use a Kill-a-watt meter.
@roseboudreaux4645
@roseboudreaux4645 6 жыл бұрын
I’m diggin’ that little streak of purple in your hair. It looks fabulous! 👩🏼‍🎤
@clpnovak
@clpnovak 6 жыл бұрын
You should win some type of award for this video! So informative, and very well researched!! Dang, I love your KZbin channel, Robin :)
@Ragnellsdream
@Ragnellsdream 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to show us the math. That is a great visual.
@mariandsons
@mariandsons 5 жыл бұрын
I am a week away from buying a class A and becoming a "nomad". I also am soon to start my peritineal training so I may do my own dialysis on the road while I travel all over. This battery pack is exactly what I'm going to get to power my dialysis machine. Thank you for the info. Mariann
@Sewspcl
@Sewspcl 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video Robin!
@sandraellis2721
@sandraellis2721 6 жыл бұрын
love your videos, so useful and filled with info....I don;'t use a CPAP yet but great info. Your share on products is helpful too, saves us guessing which might work better....so thank you. btw.....not sure if it's just me but.....at least here in Florida 12.5 x 10 = 125 not 120.5 ....hmmmm...I am getting old so I might be con=fu -zed :)
@MaryPoggemann
@MaryPoggemann 6 жыл бұрын
The most valuable take-away for me is that Doug was able to use his CPAP for several nights using only this battery pack and that it had so many different ways to utilize the power. USB, electrical cords, cigarette lighter receptacles. Robin spends a great lot of time researching and sharing what she's learned in a friendly and practical manner. Let's all take what we need and leave the rest. Thanks Robin for your service to our community. By the way... does anyone know if you can charge this off your cigarette lighter while you're driving? Or do you have to run a cable through your dash to the alternator?
@nancygebhardt6095
@nancygebhardt6095 6 жыл бұрын
Really good info.... I need a cpap and will be getting one soon... Will make sure to ask for the travel version.... And will definitely look for that charger on Amazon
@WPRJersey
@WPRJersey 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and good information
@heatseekerbus
@heatseekerbus 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this. I have a CPAP. Very helpful video.
@DCJNewsMedia
@DCJNewsMedia 5 жыл бұрын
God bless you. Awesome video
@chronicillnessnomad5702
@chronicillnessnomad5702 6 жыл бұрын
awesome video. i haven't seen you lately, and i love the purple stripe!
@kellydoyle
@kellydoyle 6 жыл бұрын
Oh! At first glance, I thought it said CRAP power! I thought, wow! She’s REALLY onto something! LOL Great info as usual. And this equation can be used for whatever appliances you expect to be using on your solar battery. 😀👍
@lynnknight3652
@lynnknight3652 6 жыл бұрын
Kelly Doyle me, too!! I read CRAP Power!
@noreenn6976
@noreenn6976 6 жыл бұрын
Kelly Doyle - LOL
@OffroadGirl
@OffroadGirl 6 жыл бұрын
Me too! HAHA
@madhabitz
@madhabitz 6 жыл бұрын
Heheheh... me too.
@arthurknapp3758
@arthurknapp3758 6 жыл бұрын
Do not use her equation/spreadsheet. It is faulty.
@sohappytosew1082
@sohappytosew1082 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video!!! I don't need a CPAP, but the end of your video was priceless for me to know! I've wondered if, push come to shove, one of those little units could actually be utilized directly by the RV. In other words, with the appropriate 110 adapter, could I plug my RV into it, say overnight...in a pinch, with intelligent use of the RV's electric? Thanks again for another fantastic video loaded with just the right info!
@LindaWolfe20
@LindaWolfe20 6 жыл бұрын
We don't use Cpacks but this is such good info... Happy Travels!
@SweetKel
@SweetKel 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! I've wanted to do some music festivals and maybe Burning Man someday and worrying about my CPAP was my biggest issue. This was exactly the information I needed.
@maryboggs6516
@maryboggs6516 6 жыл бұрын
Great info! I've wondered about that little portable. Looking good.
@mauricioruiz198
@mauricioruiz198 3 жыл бұрын
Hi what is your recommendation for a battery today
@susanjohn6506
@susanjohn6506 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This is so helpful.
@cadude145
@cadude145 6 жыл бұрын
Great information thank you very much it's now saved in my favorites so I'll know what to do
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