We think ENCTEC has an excellent attitude with its engineering-first focus and its transparency about its goals. It was refreshing to see the open mindset. Our GN Mouse Mats are back in stock & shipping now! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-wireframe-mouse-mat Watch one of our tours of an SMT Factory here (Gigabyte motherboard factory): kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ-kd4eDlrhoiJI
Can you give us the contact information for ENCTEC? Particularly if they're potentially looking for 'mod' build proposals to show consumer application?
@infyprog3 жыл бұрын
@entec mATX board with daughter boards for 2 x16pcie + 2 x4pcie. also make it AMD, if you are pushing the cost, better chase the crown.
@BlastingKap3 жыл бұрын
crazy idea. Flash the bios with the coffeetime mod and see how well it runs with a modest 6 core CPU or go all out with an i9 9900k
@thegenerousdegenerate93953 жыл бұрын
Their honesty in their videos regarding the limits of the passive cooling makes me want to purchase a board more than any fancy numbers or flashy ads ever have.
@dan8ball223 жыл бұрын
Right? That was the highlight of this video honestly.
@AndrewTJackson3 жыл бұрын
Same!
@informitas01173 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I really like this company for that. Hopefully they never get a PR office.
@GerdLPluu3 жыл бұрын
Ikr? It's fascinating how the marketing for industrial hardware is not complete bullshit more often than not - even in China!
@earthtaurus55153 жыл бұрын
Wholeheartedly Agree!
@whitenoise5093 жыл бұрын
A tech company that is actually honest with their marketing material? That alone is a strong reason to give their products a closer look.
@truckerallikatuk3 жыл бұрын
Totally. Perfect for a NAS, home server, media PC and many more.
@gaggushing623 жыл бұрын
@@truckerallikatuk ghgh ho to u7 ooop
@Nordlicht053 жыл бұрын
Must be that they are in the industrial side.
@allyourcode3 жыл бұрын
Their customers are other engineers, who a) know how to spec out parts b) know how and have the equipment to check that they're getting what they paid for, and c) aren't impressed with cosmetics. So yeah, they will fail to gain customers if they don't supply detailed data (and they will lose customers if the data turns out to be incorrect). Their behavior is not because they are an especially scrupulous company. It's because their customers are very savvy.
@liesandy2913 жыл бұрын
That's usually how it is at first before stakeholders took the reins.
@faytaliti3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the folks at ENCTEC are reading this, but as Steve mentioned, I really appreciate you releasing videos showing the shortcomings of the cooling solution. This engineering first mindset is what will keep your customers well informed and satisfied.
@Bl4ckP0150n3 жыл бұрын
Especially for anything regarding innovations, it really inspires trust when they are so open about it. I truly hope ENCTEC reads this and continues doing so. Nowdays its difficult for any company to listen to the customers, hope ENCTEC introduces innovations not only tech-wise but also regards customer feedback :)
@keibohow693 жыл бұрын
@@Bl4ckP0150n plus it helps development of an idea. The more people jump on the bandwagon the faster it could come to the market
@DIYPerks3 жыл бұрын
:O This is really smart. I hope this becomes more of a 'thing'!
@suyashgupta86573 жыл бұрын
no way what are you cooking up now
@suyashgupta86573 жыл бұрын
your a legend mate
@peterpimmelmann33303 жыл бұрын
you should definitely build a pc with that motherboard!
@CyberWolf7553 жыл бұрын
Of course you would like to make a custom PC with this motherboard hahahaha
@alexandreapril56943 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to what you WILL do with this board, everything you make is incredible. This will be interesting.
@aaronfreeman82523 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVED their honesty. I'd also love to see an AM4 version. This is something I'm really interested in 🙂
@earthtaurus55153 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about the HTPC market with AM4 Zen 3 APUs and ITX boards as effectively the entire underside of a case can become a giant heatsink as well. To add, this does pose some interesting and difficult engineering challenges.
@jonragnarsson3 жыл бұрын
This would be perfect with the 5600X. Super-silent box.
@Artcore1033 жыл бұрын
@@earthtaurus5515 my thoughts exactly, only ITX is not necessary. living room audio equipment is typically the size of an ATX board or larger so it would fit right in, even at EATX size... the passive heat sink should exactly match the size of the side of the case (or 'top' of case, as it should be laid down flat like a receiver/amp), at which point it would be large enough to cool a 105w or less AMD part, especially for HTPC use.
@earthtaurus55153 жыл бұрын
@@Artcore103 True. I agree Heat dissipation would be a concern in a small case, whereas on the bigger board that wouldn't be a problem. In terms of placement it does depend on the size of the cabinet, side board etc. As the shelves tend to be crammed with stuff lol. Plus, I was thinking more along the lines of a minimal set up as a HTPC could effectively replace a console, blu-ray drive and set top box with an integrated IR or bluetooth module. Which would either allow for more volume of air around the small chasis or allow you to store controllers, blu ray cases etc around it if it's stored in a small cabinet etc. Or wall mounting it like a functional piece of art.
@dieselpub23 жыл бұрын
@@earthtaurus5515 this, except, install the board upside down. Back of the board up to the box cover being a giant passive heatsink, a bit like streacom side of their passive box. Up of the bord downside inside a case. Would be great, becasue it wouldn't really need a complex mounting of heatpipe inside the box, and would eliminate the risk of CPU heat overheating other components.
@Zosu223 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see such unique things that consumers don't often know about being showcased.
@ej_tech3 жыл бұрын
GN: Why did you send us two boards? ENCTEC: It's incase you break one. ENCTEC, you're thinking of the wrong channel.
@grossly8203 жыл бұрын
*cough LinusDroptips cough*
@matasa74633 жыл бұрын
No, no they're thinking of the right one. Steve will break something, his own way. Besides, he always likes to have two samples, one to break apart to see how it ticks, and one for the shelves.
@mattsmith81603 жыл бұрын
@@grossly820 I was thinking JayzTwoCents. lol
@Cizzzeron3 жыл бұрын
If I can cool my gpu passively on one side and cpu passively on the other with dust being a non issue then take my money 💲
@Cizzzeron3 жыл бұрын
Oh and I'm on very much an am4 kinda guy. Wink wink nudge nudge.
@awesomenet76283 жыл бұрын
From the CPU's perspective, everything else is on the back.
@802Garage3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense in hindsight.
@doccdisrepecc73073 жыл бұрын
This feels like my life story.
@SebastianSonntag3 жыл бұрын
So, is this an application of the General or Special Theory of Motherboard Relavitiy?
@Nik-ff3tu3 жыл бұрын
Bro, how many times a day do people call you willy wang?
@jacobrzeszewski65273 жыл бұрын
@@SebastianSonntag General. This CPU only operates on traditional theory of physics.
@ccmaster863 жыл бұрын
ENCTEC: "It's in case you break one...we've looked at your channel." Steve: "You sure you didn't mean to send these to Linus Tech Tips?"
@juanbrits30023 жыл бұрын
Well, Steve's breakdowns usually remains breakdowned
@Retanaru3 жыл бұрын
Stadia controller starts spinning in its ziplock bag.
@thevisi0naryy3 жыл бұрын
Rule of thumb Hassan, you can’t break a giant ass heat sink...easily. COOLING THROUGH PASSIVE 🙌🏻
@DanielLopez-up6os3 жыл бұрын
Well Linus now Got one so.
@matbom36333 жыл бұрын
@@DanielLopez-up6os linus just make a video about this motherboard
@ghomerhust3 жыл бұрын
"we've seen your channel, it's in case you break one." i like these guys!
@Gojoe1073 жыл бұрын
2 words: Refreshingly original. As a IT director who sometimes misses being in the weeds, I love engineer first companies. Congrats to the leadership and techs who worked together to make this happen.
@iceblade0193 жыл бұрын
Steve’s Mandarin accent has improved since he last spoke Mandarin in a video!
@GamersNexus3 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks. I am still taking tutoring twice a week and improving slowly. It still feels weird to switch between English and Mandarin in the same sentence, but getting better. Remembering the tones for every word is still very hard for me. I also have to improve a lot on my ability to quickly put the grammar together for a sentence. It's a lot easier to listen than it is to reply!
@Mpdarkguy3 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus switching language(accent specifically) mid-sentence is one of the hardest things to do imo, I still struggle with it after speaking "passable as native" English for almost 10 years.
@thetalesofdaneandco3 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus Tones in a tonal language always will be the hardest part, maybe save for conjugation. You'll get it, man.
@matasa74633 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus Just remember, English also has tones, you just don't notice it much unless you learn a second language or study linguistics. It's just that the sound patterns aren't as diverse as Mandarin, and there's not as many homonyms. Chinese characters and the sounds are extremely context sensitive thanks to all those damn homonyms... You're doing good! Keep it up man.
@ironmantooltime3 жыл бұрын
His surgery was a mandarin implant upgrade
@zweck46293 жыл бұрын
This kinda calls for a case where the back panel is a big heatsink.
@Sully9483 жыл бұрын
That's genius! Make a fixture that holds heat pipes to the cpu, and a finned back panel on the case that just needs a dab of thermal paste so it makes contact with the heat pipes when closed
@gazza26193 жыл бұрын
@@Sully948 You'd probably want to use thermal pads rather than paste - not quite as good contact wise, but when using a side panel that could be coming on and off it would be a much better choice i think
@blahorgaslisk77633 жыл бұрын
@@Sully948 I think it would be better to have the heat pipes fixed to the back panel heat sink and use the back panel to press them to the CPU. But that would require that the placement of the CPU socket is standardized so the contact area for the heat spreader is known. Fortunately this is currently proprietary and thus effectively the chance to specify a new standard which makes adding specifications like that easy. If the height of the sockets could also be specified to make the total height of the heat spreader on the CPU the design wouldn't have to deal with different heights for different processor architectures. This is however harder to do and could make motherboards even more expensive to manufacture.
@darthsnarf3 жыл бұрын
this is sort of how laptops like the macbook are designed right? although you dont want the back panel of the laptop getting THAT hot
@michelvanbriemen34593 жыл бұрын
Oh boy A case that IS the heatsink Now we're talking out of the box thermals
@gccstan313 жыл бұрын
My Hong Kongese gf was sitting behind me while I was watching this video and she told me that your mandarin pronounciation is really good :D congratz Steve!
@micobugija62843 жыл бұрын
He has been learning it for a while
@burntpotatoes9993 жыл бұрын
Gamers Nexus: "see how long it takes you to spot what is interesting" Also Gamers Nexus: literally in the title and description
@Bl4ckP0150n3 жыл бұрын
Everyone is being so positive towards the company and rightfully so, engineering first perspective and all, but I want to give props to Steve for explaining why such technology can potentially cost more due to the increased manufacturing cost. Seems Steve has the engineering first perspective as ENCTEC :) I'd love for ENCTEC to introduce this to the gaming market, alongside with some cool cases and also another food for thought - we can reintroduce sidevents for CPUs once again like in older cases.
@ulrichkalber90393 жыл бұрын
An engineer accidentally mirrored the socket in mainboard. "its not a bug its a feature"
@grossly8203 жыл бұрын
i would like to believe this is how they came up with the idea
@samiraperi4673 жыл бұрын
This is what happened to his career.
@squnxfisher98313 жыл бұрын
some inventions happen by accident
@McDuglas133 жыл бұрын
"Hey, Joe, could you flip the CPU socket please? It should take a few hours tops..." 2 caffeine fueled days later: "Man this was hard! Few hours tops my a**!"
@gamershadow13 жыл бұрын
This looks interesting. I love when you guys show off unique stuff like this. Keep up the great work!
@TechBasement3 жыл бұрын
Interesting motherboards. They can be the "spine" of some very creative builds. Can't wait for the AM4 ones.
@JamesDeBono3 жыл бұрын
I also really hope this becomes a thing. I think a big market for these products is in music studios or even video studios. TARGET THE HOME STUDIO MUSIC PRODUCERS!! I myself am a music producer, video producer and product designer. So I need a computer that is powerful enough to run my CAD software but quiet enough for audio recordings. I build my own PCs and have been dreaming for years about making a passive build but came to the conclusion that for it to really work, the CPU needs to be on the back so I am VERY HAPPY to see that someone is doing this. Keep it up! I would for sure by the X590 model for my next build!
@BS_Mods3 жыл бұрын
Seems crazy at first look but actually starts to make sense.
@Jajalaatmaar3 жыл бұрын
The ATX setup seems crazy and once you start thinking about it just gets worse. It's just a stupid suboptimal convention.
@jondonnelly33 жыл бұрын
@@Jajalaatmaar It really is terrible. Time it was replaced.
@TechyBen3 жыл бұрын
We need this. CPU and cooler one side, GPU and cooler the other. I was hoping Intel did this with their mini PCI PC setup, but they did the opposite, and shoved the heatsink and fan against the GPU PCB and failed :( .
@TechyBen3 жыл бұрын
@@Jajalaatmaar It harks from the old days of big add in cards and everything being on a separate PCB. Now with so much intergrated, we need to redo the layout.
@wilswils48373 жыл бұрын
@@Jajalaatmaar Honestly dude. Having a middle wall within the chassi to split up the cooling need based on wich side the component is on is actually not terrible. You have seperate airflow for CPU/GPU.
@すどにむ3 жыл бұрын
The primary purpose of this configuration is to *minimize* airflow inside when you can't afford to let in tons of dusts into the case to cool CPU. One solution in such situations is to use this setup and give it a durable heatsink that sticks out to the backside. If necessary the heatsink may be screwed onto case opening with a gasket so that the case backside can be made waterproof. Rare in ITX or ATX form factors though.
@THEMRMURDER2703 жыл бұрын
I would love to had that in my previous IT job at a concrete factory... computers where a big mess and every 5 to 8 months they broke down
@falxonPSN3 жыл бұрын
Yup. For those that have never seen how a factory or industrial PC gets used, it's tough to understand just how filthy the environment around the PC can be. One place I used to work had so many metal shavings piling up on their PCs that they would blow them off once per shift with an air compressor. Try that with an actively cooler and vented PC! Yikes!
@Blutzen3 жыл бұрын
This is supremely fascinating, and I'd _love_ to see more videos about it in the future. If they ever come out with an AM4 board I'll definitely consider it for my next build, even if only for the novelty of sticking a heatsink the size of the motherboard in my PC.
@thelol17593 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, please continue to cover this company’s products!
@802Garage3 жыл бұрын
You can tell GN likes this company because they actually produce honest information about their product, testing, and results. Love it!
@blankblank12733 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we rarely see a company that just shows all the results upfront.
@myownsite3 жыл бұрын
Take note, MSI.
@Ander01SE3 жыл бұрын
Don't we all like the honesty?
@802Garage3 жыл бұрын
@@Ander01SE Those of us who don't swallow marketing whole. :P
@sudabadri70513 жыл бұрын
This would be so cool for my recording studio thanks for bringing this to our attention GN
@jawadisdead3 жыл бұрын
I would just like to add that for passive cooling, you would want fins to be oriented vertically, so air can naturally rise from the bottom to the top, passing through the fins. The heatsink shown in the video had horizontal fins which would have a massive difference with active cooling. and slight air stagnation in passive
@nicwilson893 жыл бұрын
Seems like testing this and testing the passive approach again would be a good next video idea. I'd love to see some data on it. Could be useful to people.
@lucashorn80423 жыл бұрын
I reacted to this as well, but if you look at their promotion material, specifically at 7:08, they seem to rotate the system 90 degrees so that the fins are vertical. So this might be a fair assessment to make considering the cooler GN got, but considering some of their other coolers already implement that solution you would think they know about it at the very least.
@sniper00730883 жыл бұрын
They could just turn the board by 90° maybe for testing. Would be intresting to see the difference
@s8wc33 жыл бұрын
DEFINETELY interested in an AMD version, maybe when AM5 arrives?
@natalieholt5633 жыл бұрын
That may be what they're going for. They need to make a lot of upgrades before mass production of a consumer market board.
@iyates3 жыл бұрын
It's great to see something "new" and unique, definitely will be following them.
@Tritiumfusion3 жыл бұрын
This would make an AMAZING Mini-itx system
@ventilate42673 жыл бұрын
Would it really? Considering most ITX cases have the GPU there instead
@jonathansoko10853 жыл бұрын
Why
@AOB4143 жыл бұрын
The current sandwich style itx cases are very inefficient in terms of cooling. But I'm not going to elaborateon that in a YT comment section
@yukisaitou50043 жыл бұрын
Definitely, the entire top could be a heatsink like on some high end power amplifiers.
@Remsster3 жыл бұрын
@@AOB414 Eh no different from itx cases that flip the board and use Pcie extensions
@brian21133 жыл бұрын
Love scrolling KZbin randomly at 1am and seeing a GN video drop
@deolamitico3 жыл бұрын
3am here, had the same feeling, and it was a GREAT video
@informitas01173 жыл бұрын
It's cool to be up late.
@musicanime12853 жыл бұрын
Same
@dycedargselderbrother53533 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's weirder: CPU socket on the back or seeing PCI and M.2 on the same board. The green color and white Molex blocks make it look like a 486 era board as well.
@GamersNexus3 жыл бұрын
GET ME SOME JUMPERS!
@dycedargselderbrother53533 жыл бұрын
The year is 2022. Video card supply has become so dire we've gone back to VESA Local Bus.
@grossly8203 жыл бұрын
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 lmao
@horscategorie3 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus Oh god no! It was bad enough with good vision...
@HariGtt3 жыл бұрын
Recently upgraded my mother's pc and she is complaining that the "new" mobo/cpu (A10 7860k with apropriate mobo) doesn't have IDE and the DVD drive is useless. Never underestimate people's need for obsolete tech.
@FrostKittyPaw3 жыл бұрын
It is definitely neat seeing unique cooling solutions like this even if they are not the most thermally optimal. Really enjoyable video!
@sauercrowder3 жыл бұрын
I actually think this setup could have excellent thermal performance if implemented correctly. As Steve said, you can separate loops. Or for air cooling, you can have a completely separate airflow for the CPU that isn't heated by or heating other components
@jdl34083 жыл бұрын
I love the engineering transparency. Thank you for the work on featuring these products. The prospect of a silent PC with this level of CPU performance is very compelling.
@zoesan45173 жыл бұрын
"It's a passive cooler" "well, except for the 4ft noctua fan we slapped on it"
@MaxIronsThird3 жыл бұрын
they test both
@dvno75813 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know they made pc fans as big as seen in the video
@Verpal3 жыл бұрын
@@dvno7581 They do, but it is insanely hard to find one in many market, I have only seen a few lurking in server room, they are private property of the server dude though.
@jondonnelly33 жыл бұрын
@@Verpal Not insanely hard at all. The Antec NX Series NX800 has 2 RGB ones.
@jondonnelly33 жыл бұрын
Thermaltake COMMANDER C33 has as well.
@sarrasmith25083 жыл бұрын
If I didn't already have a machine already for a NAS, this would probably be the most awesome way to do one.
@JerryDodge3 жыл бұрын
A NAS doesn't really require much CPU power in the first place. It just needs a lot of storage and fast network.
@Luke3573 жыл бұрын
@@JerryDodge Exactly he could use an i3 and it could easily be passively cooled with alot of storage in the front.
@sarrasmith25083 жыл бұрын
@@JerryDodge That was exactly my point... Passive cooling for a NAS, with a power effecient CPU and integrated graphics, with lots and lots of storage. Perfect home NAS setup.
@jamerican3473 жыл бұрын
Since Intel’s going backwards, ENCTEC wanted to physically represent that.
@kennyj43663 жыл бұрын
😆 LOL
@Rhyas93 жыл бұрын
XD
@ahsverkoshkin12493 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen Steve so excited in a while! Glad that you got some interesting stuff to review, finally! ^__^
@afrewer943 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making videos on unique things like this that I'd never know about otherwise. Your attention to the manufacturing and engineering side of things is appreciated!
@willblack73533 жыл бұрын
"we sent you two in case you break one" LTT: I am missing a package...
@WalrusWithBenefits3 жыл бұрын
I've never been so giddy to see such a plain PCB, this is some seriously cool shit.
@Go-ah-oold3 жыл бұрын
Is it cool shit, or hot shit? That is the question :)
@h8GW3 жыл бұрын
@@Go-ah-oold It think the technical term for green PCBs with modern fittings is "retro shit".
@idiocracy95303 жыл бұрын
This does make a lot of sense, having a huge heatsink that's much closer to the board probably puts less strain on it. Would love to see more of this.
@MosquitoMade3 жыл бұрын
This was a fresh thing to see. From what you've shown of Enctec, I appreciate what they do and how they do it. I would LOVE to see an AM4 version. I love doing scratch builds and case mods, and these boards have the ideas rolling... It would be so much fun to get one of these and their coolers. I love the idea, and would love to see more about it in the future. Thanks for taking the time to put together some of these more "abstract" and "out of mainstream" videos
@wileymonair3 жыл бұрын
I really can imagine this being a really cool product for high end builds, but I can't imagine it gaining much traction unless they get a well-know case manufacturer to go along with it as well.
@brodriguez110003 жыл бұрын
The depth in the back would either have to be deeper, or enough room for a water-cooling setup.
@volvagia68603 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I would love to have one in AM4!
@caminoprojectUS3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty interesting. This is what innovation looks like.
@otakujhp3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen such a thing, and it's honestly pretty brilliant. This would be great for giant air coolers or interesting custom loops with a case specifically built for it. Now we just need enthusiast grade hardware.
@allluckyseven3 жыл бұрын
That's something I've always wondered about. Finally someone decided to take this approach.
@LessThePattern3 жыл бұрын
This is neat AF and you should definitely do more with this (as long as random releases aren't running you all ragged) :D
@biogopher3 жыл бұрын
Am4 boards with good over clocking capabilities would be huge, gives a lot of room on the board for moding
@jasondent47013 жыл бұрын
People would build custom cases for this design
@Juurus3 жыл бұрын
Finally, an actually interesting motherboard.
@sjab59873 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty new to the PC game and have learned sooo much from this channel. Thanks Steve and everyone at GN
@WolfbytesIT3 жыл бұрын
Very surprised this hasn't been done before, I've actually had a few builds that I've wanted exactly this kind of configuration for. It's great to see that someone out there is still innovating, and being honest with their product at that.
@georgeivanov8443 жыл бұрын
When Steve pronounces words in mandarin, it sounds like someone else is speaking through him.
@Fee.13 жыл бұрын
Yea he’s getting ridiculously proficient in mandarin
@djdjukic3 жыл бұрын
Years ago, he was Chinese...
@STriderFIN773 жыл бұрын
Yes, i have heard and :hmm: this also,
@zarmaanful3 жыл бұрын
Chinese Jesus?
@Fee.13 жыл бұрын
@@zarmaanful no thanks I ate already
@thcriticalthinker40253 жыл бұрын
This certainly opens up the door to mounting the motherboard to a case that is the heatsink, seems really cool to me
@leohuangchunwang3 жыл бұрын
@@juntapiezas They exist, but they involve screwing a whole bunch of (separate) heat pipes onto the cold plate yourself, then attaching the heat pipes to the case, all while putting thermal paste everywhere. With the CPU on the back, you can just mount the case-cooler together with the motherboard mounting, which makes things much simpler.
@thebricknomads3 жыл бұрын
this is actually a better idea than I thought when I first saw it
@AsbestosMuffins3 жыл бұрын
GN: Starts doing aircooler reviews again Also GN: Finds the biggest aircooler on the market to review
@Lakius3 жыл бұрын
Very cool! We get so inundated with what's popular it's quite refreshing to see something new, especially new approaches.
@Donnerwamp3 жыл бұрын
Wow, as soon as they make one with socket AM4, I'll upgrade my mothers PC. She's rocking a 3400G that's pretty much at the brink of throttling all the time because her PC is completely passively cooled by a Mugen 5. She's a heavy smoker and I'm just too lazy to clean her PC six tines a year...
@horscategorie3 жыл бұрын
I have wondered for years why this was not a typical design feature.
@vileCR9993 жыл бұрын
Same!
@happydawg26633 жыл бұрын
Me too
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart3 жыл бұрын
I want this in an HTPC
@daviXD183 жыл бұрын
I like how clean it looks, just some caps and conectors is like a render in real life
@Wassermelonenbaum3 жыл бұрын
Really refreshing to see a company being this open about their products. Keep on the good work!
@ShinichiroKururugi3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is really cool! I can totally see this becoming my future media TV in my living room.
@sentineloffreedom3 жыл бұрын
It’s a great idea. If they could grip onto this design and break into the high end market, they could be a pretty big thing in terms of motherboards!
@_BangDroid_3 жыл бұрын
until one of the big makers steals the design and slapps a bunch of wankery on it
@rtharrison3 жыл бұрын
@@_BangDroid_ "Look at all that free real estate for RGB!" - Corsair probably. :p
@keza4win73 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see this implemented as a HTPC or similar to one of the NUC's where it can be deployed for home office use.
@brendanjones43623 жыл бұрын
This could make "console killers" a lot easier to put together and slim full ATX builds a reality for those who need full ATX. That prototype case gives me a few ideas for builds already.
@juanbrits30023 жыл бұрын
Then decent AMD boards would be needed from them for APUs like the 5700g
@JIOmland3 жыл бұрын
love this consept... so cool getting CPU cooler on back side..
@mirxzh3 жыл бұрын
#1 hardware channel by far. That design is crazy cool. Can't wait to see new case designs for this. Quite innovative.
@informitas01173 жыл бұрын
As a silence nerd this is very interesting. If this was logistically viable I wouldn't mind trying it in my next build. I love the fact they were honest with their heat video, so rare to see. I like them.
@h2oaddict283 жыл бұрын
The most silent pc is one that isn't inside the same room as you.
@falxonPSN3 жыл бұрын
@@h2oaddict28 well sure, but using such a PC becomes a pain. Especially the wiring.
@h2oaddict283 жыл бұрын
@@falxonPSN Cables can get expensive if you have a lot of them, but that's the only disadvantage. I wouldn't go back.
@thedmpd3 жыл бұрын
Oh man! I would love to see this in an AM4 format so we could do a passively cooled router for the home.
@Remsster3 жыл бұрын
But why? You will bet better results slapping this on the front of a normal motherboard?
@thedmpd3 жыл бұрын
@@Remsster more due to what you can do size wise. Connections for the modem tend to be I'm weird places or right where an entertainment system is in rentals so having something like this passively cooled in a small container would be amazing.
@startedtech3 жыл бұрын
@@thedmpdModem? I don't follow, what does a modem have anything to do with a modern PC. Unless you're talking about a cable internet modem, but I don't see how this design would affect how an Ethernet cable connects
@--Lam3 жыл бұрын
You don't need a gaming CPU for a home router. I use an Odroid H2+ (the plus has 2*2,5 Gbps Eth), it's passively cooled, the Celeron J4115 uses like 6W tops under single core load (10W TDP for 4-core) and obviously never goes to 100% load routing just 1 Gbps. Way more sane than building a monstrosity that could run Crysis and using it as a router :)
@thedmpd3 жыл бұрын
@@startedtech Sorry Sam, I should have been more clear. The modem and router tend to be clustered together in a rental home since we don't have permission to go fishing in walls/do construction. Add in that your partner will kill you if you have visible cable runs all over the house, it is wisest then to place your DIY router close to your modem. So this cooler would be awesome in that you could have it in a fanless router built hidden in an entertainment stand without having to worry about noise levels for the fans.
@RagnorBC3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised to see the fins oriented horizontally. I'd expect a passive heatsink to be oriented mostly vertical to try and benefit from convection airflow.
@ujiltromm73583 жыл бұрын
Or on its side, so that the heatsink is on top laying flat. That way air rises through the largest surface available of the cooler.
@aeueeaia3 жыл бұрын
I love the mini "core" style case at 1:57 ! this was an especially interesting video, passive cooling is awesome
@emancesooh3 жыл бұрын
I already have one passively cooled computer and would definitely look at this as an option for a new one. However, AM4 is a must.
@DanafoxyVixen3 жыл бұрын
I love how the PCB is just the standard green. it looks so sparse and naked, its kinda refreshing.. im a bit done with all the flashy screen-printing and added stuff thats common these days that some marketing department is trying to remind us all how GAMER we are
@Apollo-Computers3 жыл бұрын
Yes, everything being gamer/gaming is getting annoying.
@Blacktronics3 жыл бұрын
If i could buy a high quality mainboard with a clear soldermask i'd do it, the Color of the FR4 would suit noctua fans quite well
@bootchoo963 жыл бұрын
Imagine what SFF cases would benefit from this! Very interesting, love the content
@maestrohun3 жыл бұрын
Before years I had an imagine about let put the PCIe slots to the other side. And here it is the idea but in a different way. In some case it could be a very compact, space optimizated PC.
@ydid6873 жыл бұрын
this attitude is just plain awesome, kudos to their engineers
@HochiTheSunSon3 жыл бұрын
I normally don't comment but just wanted to say that this is so refreshing! Really enjoy the videos were you dig into something new - as in new ideas! Keep up the good work. :)
@jonathanellis60973 жыл бұрын
I love the green motherboard as well, they should make a comeback!
@robertwatt74943 жыл бұрын
This is a great innovation! Would be interested if made with AM4 socket.
@DrKrFfXx0000000000003 жыл бұрын
It's weird they didn't go straight to AMD for the initial boards, since AMD has Intel by the balls in the performance per watt department.
@tissueoflies27803 жыл бұрын
@@DrKrFfXx000000000000 Because they come from an industrial space, and that's dominated by intel. Remember this is primarily and industrial board, and they're just shopping the idea around to see if it gets any traction
@tomastuoma3 жыл бұрын
This would be perfect for a personal web server/router that you can hide away with 0 noise. Im interested...
@oliverlind65963 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, thanks, i've literally been trying to find something like this for one of our machines
@Rallymen0073 жыл бұрын
that's extremely interesting very cool idea i think it could be interesting to compare dunking the passive heatsink in a water tank as you suggested against a proper water cooling loop
@domg60413 жыл бұрын
I mean, the water wouldn't be an issue if you just did a glycol mix. Use an automotive mix for the anti-corrosion additives, seal it if you are worried about pets/kids getting at it.
@TheShadowwalker0073 жыл бұрын
Love this. I hate having the cpu cooler right in the middle of where I need to put stuff. Ah I can’t put in ram because of clearances...ah I can’t asses my ram because it’s behind the cpu cooler...ah I can’t mount a top case radiator because the cpu cooler is in the way. (I am looking forward to using AMD CPU’s into the future)
@arcticfox043 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have a passive cooled AM4 System with a Ryzen 4xxx for E-sports.
@Norman_Fleming3 жыл бұрын
This is cool, no pun intended. Nice to see new approaches to old problems. I would definitely consider this if we ever have parts to buy.
@Destroyer123343 жыл бұрын
Steve, you seem so genuinely excited and happy to be working on this particular piece. I hope all of the craziness from the past six months has finally calmed down!
@whatdafarkenhell71103 жыл бұрын
Interested? yes, AM4 socketed please. I would build one of these no matter what the socket, but to have a daily use PC I would love to have one running a modern AM4 socketed CPU.
@AliciaCLR3 жыл бұрын
these kind of company won't do AM4, especially when most of AMD CPU have no Display out
@serras_3 жыл бұрын
@@AliciaCLR Oh no! How will I ever get display out if I'm not using an intel CPU, perhaps they could make some kind of card or something to fix this. 🤔
@AliciaCLR3 жыл бұрын
@@serras_ didn't you watch the video? the board is intended for Industrial development, and not even have PCIe 16x Slot
@noahwithana41493 жыл бұрын
@@AliciaCLR I'm pretty sure he said basically the entire time that they're interested in breaking into the consumer market but idk maybe I'm just hearing things
@purplegill103 жыл бұрын
@@AliciaCLR AMD makes many cpus with graphics on board.
@ricky_pigeon3 жыл бұрын
0:50 me, reading the title of this video and then wanting to see what it's all about. 9:33 me, wanting one.
@alganthe3 жыл бұрын
"we strapped a fan to it", don't lie steve we all know it's your hair dryer.
@startedtech3 жыл бұрын
Y'know, making a hair dryer out of a very hot power hungry PC and high cfm fan sounds something ridiculous enough FOR LTT to do
@ujiltromm73583 жыл бұрын
@@startedtech "So WE'VE DONE IT!... with 6 computers running Crysis 3 on RTX 3080 for a total of 2500W...!"
@Trainguyrom3 жыл бұрын
I love seeing exotic hardware designed to work around limitations of the current paradigm and standards. I would love to see more content like this
@wmarples3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Always cool to see something different, especially from a company that is so willing to be open about it. Would love to see more of this kind of content, in general.
@aaronb49573 жыл бұрын
This is a motherboard mullet. Business in the front, CPU in the back.
@questionablecommands94233 жыл бұрын
If they made a "thin mini-itx" version of this board with an mxm slot on the front, they would CRUSH the small form factor market.
@ClayWheeler3 жыл бұрын
Isn't MXM slot effectively discontinued?
@s8wc33 жыл бұрын
This would be sick in one of those wide Caselabs Magnums. Would hardly have to mod it at all.
@mikaeleriksson48883 жыл бұрын
Really fun to see a bit of a fresh take on the motherboard design(insted of just adding RGB as the main brands). Would have been fun to see how you can make a good NAS setup using something like this, as thats one of the bigger DIY servers you may make at home that needs to be quiet or at least in a air starved case.
@lukafireman3 жыл бұрын
ENCTEC... no words, gj mates. Even though I most likely will not be using your boards I would like to support the way you operate as a company. Showing down sides, issues, and careful engineering steps is something quite refreshing. I really appreciate the way you've presented yourselves so far. For reference and out of respect I would like you to note that I almost never comment on any videos whatsoever, however this content, transparency and effort has brought my attention enough for me to make at least a praise in the form of a comment.
@lukafireman3 жыл бұрын
Also, cannot forget the length Steve goes to in order to showcase value in the tech world! I know you don't ever need anyone saying this, but man do we appreciate you...
@BIindsid33 жыл бұрын
I love how giddy steve is at the beginning of the video. It's like he knows were about to love this shit. lol
@earthtaurus55153 жыл бұрын
@Daniel thomas we're not were or just type we are😜.