CR England Trainee Learns 45-45Degree Backing

[@achildoftheking7504]

Thanks I like that you explained each step. 1st time I heard 4ft hard (R) 4ft. Hard (L). My trainer did say hard left & hard right but never heard 4ft that's makes a difference thanks.

[@jasonthao6640]

Np you're welcome

[@flako194]

Waoo great video .. first time i see someone giving instruction step by step .. most video people just play with the steering wheel and there it when we got lost.. great video thank you!

[@jasonthao6640]

No problem I tried my best

[@tonyyoun23]

Planning on getting my cdl license. Cool to see my fellow hmong brother teaching.

[@jasonthao6640]

Damn nice, yeah bro there's barely anyone out here aha. Never seen another hmong driver out here.

[@michaelaleman3591]

Nice job! Good training!

[@jasonthao6640]

Thank you sir

[@Maney3316]

He didn't understand how the trailer moves...Ah the good ole days, still fun to watch

[@herbertanderson2319]

Great company!! I got my CDL from England in 2019.

[@jasonthao6640]

Yes a great starter company

[@herbertanderson2319]

@@jasonthao6640 agreed!! I was only with them for 2 months because they gave me a trainer that road me for my miles. Also, they refused to put me with another trainer!!

[@jasonthao6640]

@@herbertanderson2319 sorry to hear that man, one reason why I became a trainer was so I can take on people like you who have bad experiences with trainers.

[@herbertanderson2319]

@@jasonthao6640 I begged for a new trainer. I did not want to leave. But, they were pushing me to go out on the road not knowing how to work the computer, not knowing how to do the paperwork, not knowing how to slide a tandem, also, not knowing how to distribute your weight. I was very fortunate thou because I went to Navajo Express and got trained by a former 3 year driver trainer at England. I was with Navajo for a year.

[@mikebastoni4490]

And you not there anymore 🤔🤔

[@otrlife5959]

I got my CDL with them and left 2 weeks after they teamed me with another new driver (training tier 2). Pay plan teaming with them is no way enough. I easily got a raise and a dedicated customer with another big company. Got my 2 year experience then left for another pay raise with Shipex (also out of SLC)

[@jasonthao6640]

You're welcome.

[@otrlife5959]

Dont take it personally man......my trainer there was real good and I wish I coulda teamed with him but that ain't the way it works.

[@jasonthao6640]

@@otrlife5959 my bad I replied to the wrong comment brother but yeah man ik what you mean, I had lots of trainee that wanted to team up with me too

[@otrlife5959]

Also.....paid off my loan today that I financed for CDL program there. Did it in half as much time cuz I paid it off using my bonuses from Shipex.

[@otrlife5959]

@Jason Thao

[@Truckeroverhaul2024]

I when through CR England in Salt Lake City, UT in 2007, I see they change a little on the backing we didn’t stop our drives in the parking spot, we stop halfway of the trailer.

[@dewaynemosley7329]

Roadmaster Millington only taught us off set , 90 and staightline now im on the road and i dont even know how to do a 45 shit crazy

[@ProfeRox]

The patience of the driver … with the screams 🤣

[@j.m.r.f6286]

Thank you, gracia's.

[@jasonthao6640]

You're welcome

[@Brararaf101]

is it better to have 5 th wheel slide back so u can tunn jacknife better without hitting your cab w trailer?

[@jasonthao6640]

Honestly it wouldn't matter. Once jack knife your trailer tandems stop rolling backwards, so when you counter steer to the left it force your trailer to pivot.

[@will78]

Maybe some don't need help backing up. I don't have a CDL yet .but think I might be good

[@MrSmi31093]

Well, That's cute. He didn't learn very well. Got 2 acres to work with. Think first,,, start your backing second after you have seen others do it and learn from it. That 7 lbs between your shoulders ain't no paper weight. My trainer was Harold Brown Millis transfer for 3 months. Boys were mean but a good learning experience! In fact, the whole state of Wisconsin is MEAN! Well Almost.

[@josephjohnson6849]

Reminds me of army groundguiding.

[@robertkeime4907]

I thought you had a limit on how many times you could pull up on the cdl ?

[@jasonthao6640]

Yeah when you take the CDL test, but if you already have your CDL and you're already on the road training and you're just doing the upgrade test then, you can pull up as much as you want

[@robertkeime4907]

@@jasonthao6640 thanks Jason

[@static_Tricolor_camry]

Whoever is filming this don't know how to record a video. They should be focusing on both the Tractor and the Trailer so we can see where he's angling the Trailer while watching the Tractor.

[@Cloudblu]

Why didn't they teach this at US TRUCK DRIVING SCHOOL IN Detroit. MI I had to figure it out for myself . . . !

[@jasonthao6640]

I think DMV requires you to pass doing a 90degree ally dock instead of a 45-45

[@turkeyyman7290]

If u can do a 90.. u can most definitely do a 45!

[@2pacnasgame]

They don’t teach that in Fontana

[@jasonthao6640]

Nope they only teach the 90 degree backing at Fontana

[@zach8969]

You don't learn 45's until you are out of school and on the road

[@bohonzemalonze8926]

What if you're trying to park in a lone open space at a otherwise full truck stop? I've noticed that at full truck stops you typically have around 20 meters of space to work with- not enough to pull off this maneuver, not even close. In fact it seems impossible to back in a 70 ft rig using any maneuver with that amount of space.

[@jasonthao6640]

Honestly this maneuver works with alot of loves. This maneuver is only taught so they can understand the bend, push and pivot of the trailer. Once they understand the trailer more they can go try and make their own style of backing at a Flying J where all the spots are tight as heck

[@intelin123]

A 45 is used in little room. If you have a lot of space you can set up and turn it into an offset.

[@martinjuarez1996]

Me gustaria practicar ya tengo mi permiso solo me falta eso reversiar

[@JuanCruz-xc1wx]

how to apple

[@purest4233]

you still working here? im thinking about getting my cdl im in PA can you pick what training site you go to? and do they paid for your travel there? thanks!

[@jasonthao6640]

I dont work there anymore but from what I know they only have 3 training sites, IN, UT, and CA. Most of their students go to UT but I'm sure you'll probably go to IN since it's closer to PA. They'll pay for your travel ticket (greyhound) you'll need money to buy your own food tho. You'll need enough money to last until training is over and you get on the road.

[@purest4233]

@@jasonthao6640 thanks for the info! what happens if you fail your cdl skills test once or twice? just curious

[@jasonthao6640]

@@purest4233 from what I saw while i was still in school, as long as you're improving then they wont kick you out of school. There's this one guy who failed over and over for a entire month and he finally passed.

[@michaeldulay2704]

@@jasonthao6640 I'm also thinking a out going to cr England how many chances did they give the I heard if u fail like 2 or 3 times they might kick u out

[@jasonthao6640]

@@michaeldulay2704 I'm not sure anymore since I don't work there anymore but when I was still in school 2years ago there was a guy who failed almost everytime for a entire month.

[@piotrkluz7881]

This what I Fcu like trainer with 3 monies of driving and by the way second student is sleeping in the truck

[@tahir2949]

👌

[@shepardalbertson]

You told him to take his hard right out way too soon, multiple times. He didn't have enough bend on the trailer coming into the box, but you kept telling him that a left would bend it more, which made him keep making the same mistake over and over. You cannot get the trailer to bend with a left at the speed he needed once he has entered the box. He needed to keep that right in until his trailer was bent properly into the box, THEN put in the left. He was doing exactly as you instructed him but you have to understand that it was your fault he stopped bending it as soon as he did. I know you mean well but I don't think this was the students fault. You also had him push forward with a bad initial setup. His left outside tandem tires hadn't even reached the boundary of the box when he got out and looked. This should have been a sign that he was too early to the box and needed to pull up and reset his angle. Instead, you had him push through with that setup. That was also a part of the problem.

[@autk]

Absolutely, the teacher screwed up multiple times making a simple back into a cluster f. "That's how you do it"...no exactly not

[@PSNMirru]

I’ve noticed that instructors that try to teach alley docking have it rough. What I’ve learned in my first month on a job is that alley docking is hard to explain something you have to keep practicing at in order to better understand what you’re doing. I had my trainer try to explain things and I’d do exactly as he said and still be messed up until I told him one day to let me try things on my own at the stops we had and found that I was able to get where I needed to be. Out on the road I can pull up and GOAL as much as I need to so I was able to improve. I’m not at all super good at it but I’ve been in this guy’s shoes before and it’s not only frustrating but can also be embarrassing

[@Vpn367]

You still at England ?

[@jasonthao6640]

No sir.

[@kobe2544able]

Drive trunk for 12.50 $h It's better to flip burgers in McDonald's 500 miles day 11 h drive 13 h in the track Security service for the delivery trailer 24 h not home In the end you profit Is 12.50$ h

[@jasonthao6640]

Who told you "you gonna make shit ton of money as a new trainee?" Who told you that?

[@jasonthao6640]

Dude I made 1000 a week easily with them after my 1st phase of training.

[@MeLaPelaaan]

Lmfao yeah no! If you don’t like the lifestyle than by all means go flip burgers at McDonald’s . But once you have experience out there no reason why you shouldn’t be making at least 1500$ a week. You ain’t gonna make that at McDonald’s. I don’t know why you newbies cry over pay! Easiest job , no college education making what people with college degrees make !

[@jcelldogs]

With all that room just pull up farther and do a 90° all that wiggle wiggle for nothing.

[@jasonthao6640]

Its a way for them to understand how the trailer works. I don't understand why some people think these guys were professional and expect alot right out of school.

[@moustaphamoutassdik9526]

Tres bien bon cours conducteur

[@angelito2038]

Some of this trainer should not even be training they got no clue

[@h8yurFACE]

Over kill but they're rookies

[@jasonthao6640]

I dont understand what you meant by overkill but yes they were my trainee and I was a new trainer at the time

[@davidlightfoot348]

Over kill and very confusing and convoluted method of backing. Why don't they square the trailer, drop it, and rehook the tractor square to the trailer and back in? Makes just as much sense.

[@josephmyers1492]

Very poor reference visual points. Sorry, couldn't give you a thumbs up on this one.

[@jasonthao6640]

I agree myself. I was surprised seeing all these other comments

[@mohamedlhaj7258]

Better change the way of teaching

[@SaucyC-e9l]

Why cause the im a new driver and I’m curious everybody has there own way of teaching and backing

[@SaucyC-e9l]

I just need to know

[@MrLonglastting]

Why so hard? Don't understand...

[@jasonthao6640]

Backing is complicated

[@graymikep64]

😂

[@jasonthao6640]

Everyone is new at some point 😂😂😂

[@aidacapangpangan6054]

Thats not a good trainer. The blind leading the blind

[@jasonthao6640]

What do you mean?

[@jasonthao6640]

Did you mean like I should have stayed behind the trailer guiding him?

[@shepardalbertson]

@@jasonthao6640 you kept telling him to take out his right too early. You also made him go in with an initial bad setup where he was too early to the box.

[@jasonthao6640]

@@shepardalbertson that's the set up England wants trainers to teach trainees. And yeah I probably did. I was a new trainer at the time so yeah

[@Kaitlin24247]

Stop coughing..lol

[@jasonthao6640]

It's a habit sorry 😂😂😂

[@stevenr8606]

🤔🙄🤣 now do it at night! Bet you fail!

[@jasonthao6640]

I tried teaching at night once and people started tripping so I never trained at night again lol

[@riotsidegaming5908]

wtf is this garbage? why not just have them line up and back it in? huge waste of time.

[@jasonthao6640]

Hmmm I guess lots of people just don't have common since. Why do that? They won't learn anything by doing easy backing SMH. People are just dumb now a days.

[@riotsidegaming5908]

@@jasonthao6640 You learn nothing by backing this way. That's like the new common core math bullshit being taught in school to complicate the addition of 1 + 1. 45-45 is ONLY taught by CRE, and it's the laughing stock of the trucking community for a reason.

[@jasonthao6640]

@@riotsidegaming5908 so you think doing straight line backing all the time will make them learn how the trailer pivots and move?

[@jasonthao6640]

@@riotsidegaming5908 but I mean hey if you learned things by doing straight line then good for you 😆

[@riotsidegaming5908]

@@jasonthao6640 Yes, CDL School is for learning how the trailer pivots and moves. This is just like, the wife of CRE's CEO was messing with toy trucks and went "Hun! i found a super easy way!" And the dude put it in the training manuals to sate her.