Craft PRO-level Masters WITHOUT hardware: Advanced concepts for Plugin Mastering

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[@Producelikeapro]

Hey everyone, I hope you enjoy this in-depth Mastering session. What was your favourite technique Warren shared in this tutorial? If you want to learn more from Warren Sokol, you can pick up his full Mastering Course here: promixacademy.com/course/mastering-music-with-warren-sokol/

[@samuelellringmann3424]

Fantastic tutorial! I love Warren's ear, and how he applies processing that actually serves the song, not solely trying to improve the sound! Thanks so much =)

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Sam! Yes, Warren Rocks!

[@guitboxgeek]

Absolutely killer video. I learned so much and I really appreciate all the work in the box, too. Thanks PLAP!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it

[@Arden7one]

Nifty! Now given a clear cut example, I can definitely see the difference and commonalities between mixing and mastering 🙏😇 appreciate you ever so much PlaP team! Much love from gloomy London ❤

[@DICARLOPRODUCTIONS]

I thought I was the only one dealing with some singers that want their vocal more in the mix than a bit above the mix, which is where I usually hear it. I´m currently mixing and mastering an album for Blues guy, and he really wants his vocals deep in the mix with the other instruments. Glad I´m not the only one dealing with this. Nice tutorial.

[@MarcBecker_Music]

Great video. Thank you, Warren and Warren. I definitely have to check out the UAD Precision K-Stereo. Great hint!

[@Producelikeapro]

Marvellous! Glad to be able to help Marc!

[@Ytsssss364]

i follow a lot of EDM tutorials - like on sonic academy - and their quick and dirty "mastering" method is on the master buss right there in the mix, as a final step, using maximizers/limiters and leaving some luffs etc - but doing it right "in the mix" if you will - what's to say about this versus say bouncing out a "final" with say 12 db headroom etc - and then dumping in to ozone "as a whole"? or like for instance, dropping "ozone plugin" right into the mix - and then basically "mastering" as you "bounce out your track" ? know what i mean?

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

Mastering is a completely different way for listening to the music. Changing the mindset of how to listen to the music is easier done as a completely different session without access to the tracks.

[@Producelikeapro]

Indeed, I would definitely split the process up into mixing and mastering

[@Producelikeapro]

As already mentioned here, using the master bus for sidechaining functions etc in EDM is very common and when you're using synthetic or virtual sound you aren't as concerned as much about preserving sonic characteristics or integrity of the original source, ie it's not a harp recorded in a beautiful room or solo violin with the mic pulled back! The point is often in EDM the Master Bus pumping in time with a 4 on the floor kick is a huge part of the sound of the final mix

[@ShayneCutler]

Thankyou for another amazing tutorial. I can never get that finished pop sound on my songs.If anyone has the time, you would be doing me a massive favour by taking a listen and making any suggestions you might have...Thankyou so much guys.

[@bobbyweezer]

Two separate Warrens, OMG

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha yes! Double!

[@vminator]

I have a question I was hoping you or anyone in the community could please help me with. I decided to get the Neve 5057 after watching your video and doing tons of research, great video BTW! I mix primarily in the box aside from a SSL GBUS I built and an Orban 622 EQ that I modded a bit. I have a MOTU Ultralite MK5 and I have all the I/O used up except for the ADAT output. Is there a device that could take ADAT in and break out to 8 Line outs? I'd been looking for something but most solutions are discontinued. I found the dangerous audio convert 8 would work but it's far too expensive for my remaining budget. It's the only way I could get 8 more outputs for the 5057.

[@cabslandpenny7787]

I'm sure a RME Octamic can do that. Probably you have to route the adats out of the outputs in TotalMix, the software RME is using!

[@MarcBecker_Music]

There are a couple of devices under $1000 that provide 8 ADAT I/Os. The Black Lion Audio Revolution EXP, the Ferrofish Pulse 16, the Focusrite Clarett+ OctoPre, and the EVO SP8, which is an inexpensive but great-sounding solution.

[@Ytsssss364]

have you tried Reason? the mixer is a nice emulation of the SSL 9000

[@vminator]

@@MarcBecker_Music Hey thank you, Evo SP8 and Revolution EXP are perfect solutions! I really appreciate it.

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes, indeed, those are both great affordable and wonderful sounding solutions!@@vminator

[@nathanclave]

Is he using windows 7? 😮

[@Producelikeapro]

Maybe? Whatever is reliable when running his software!

[@Ryan-rn3cf]

Videos like this have been around for ages now and you can always learn something new. All of them have something in common though. They all use the same dentist office waiting room music to teach with. This is seriously bottom of the barrel garbage. Whomever wrote and decided to record that song should be embarrassed. Every audio school that’s ever existed, every pro audio KZbinr is fascinated with the same exact “Almost Christian Pop-rock” since forever.

[@IntheDAW]

K stereo is one of those uad orignals that just has never been beat. I wish they would go native with it

[@Producelikeapro]

Marvellous! Thanks ever so much for sharing

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

I’ve been waiting for the native version as well.

[@Producelikeapro]

I'm with you too@@NoQualmsTheArtist

[@WisdomHouseCreative]

This is the most negative comment sections I've ever seen on a PLAP video. Weird.

[@Producelikeapro]

Is it? Strange how people are worried what eversion of Windows he uses? As though that would effect the sound?

[@Producelikeapro]

Also, in Mastering you work with any genre! So you have to be prepared to work on songs you may or may not like!

[@adeofbass]

Vocals sound a lot like Turin Brakes - which is no bad thing

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!

[@JeremyRobberechts]

Interesting that he ends up cutting around 200 Hz. That’s a frequency I’ve really learned to hate. 😅 1 kHz is probably a close second.

[@Producelikeapro]

Aha! Thanks for sharing!

[@Producelikeapro]

Too much 350Hz is horrid for me!

[@lastboxofsparklers]

Old school digital mastering is cool sometimes, but we have so many incredible tools available I feel this video is doing digital mastering a bit of a disservice... It can be so much more fun that eq and comp.

[@Producelikeapro]

That's a huge question! It depends on whether you are purely mastering the track or fixing mixing issues as to how plug ins are being used. If I find myself using a ton of multi band, dynamic EQ and or widening plug ins during mastering then I would definitely go back to the mix and solve those issues in it. Warren Sokol has done videos with us on using this techniques to fix issues in a mix.

[@nickmessitte1721]

To be fair though, a lot of what Warren says is lacking in gainstaging digitally has come a long way since these psp plug-ins. Michelangelo, for instance, really captures what it’s like to drive a tube circuit. The new Softube stuff too, as well as gold clip and a few color eqs out there. I feel that with some of those tools-and perhaps less of a low end boost-he could’ve gotten the level he said he wanted without the mix collapsing.

[@Joey-rp5vg]

That was brilliant. A real good insight to mastering. Thanks very much and a big thanks to the PLAP team

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Joey!

[@gaganbakana]

keep coming such vdos 💚💚

[@Producelikeapro]

Marvellous! Thanks ever so much!

[@Ytsssss364]

whoa nice to see PSP get some much deserved love!

[@Producelikeapro]

Absolutely

[@TheChrispablo]

It's been a while since i saw Windows 7 haha

[@Producelikeapro]

Professionals never change their OS once they have a stable system. I see so many issues of OS being updated and plug ins not working and new firmware needs to be updated. Always best to turn off automatic updates!

[@Producelikeapro]

Professionals never update OS when their software runs smoothly on it! Why bring in unwanted issues? When your system runs smoothly why change it and invite issues

[@marcom.]

​@@ProducelikeaproSo Warren do you also not update your DAW and plugins?

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks for the question. Of course I update my DAW and plug ins! Ha@@marcom.However, I don't update the OS unless there is a reason. For instance I'm not going to update my OS for one plug in I rarely use, it's really just about applying logic to the situation!

[@thesaint7380]

Great Video, thank you so much ! For the vocal boost, Ozone 11 would come in handy, as it can separate and process the stems from a mix in real time (including vocals), super cool for such situations.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!

[@mayzter8765]

Very helpful

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!

[@paulcope834]

Think a high male vocal and a female backing vocalist just sounds bad.

[@Producelikeapro]

We all hear things in different ways and like different music! Thankfully! Thanks for your comment

[@Skkyyyyyyyyyyy]

Love Warren! So glad he’s back

[@Producelikeapro]

Warren's the man! From the other Warren!

[@claudius3124]

Wow! Unliking L/R in the limiter... That's revealing to me! I hear it very clearly here, in my trusted speakers. No need to put on headphones. Not that subtle, even though it is. When it's fully linked, it sounds rather stiff but when @40 then there's that kinda seasickness sort of effect... I guess lower we'd start too feel kinda nauseous... 60'S good, you're right. Well... Thanks a lot for that demonstration! And have a marvelous new year, as someone would say... ;-)

[@marksextonmarkeaux4181]

The variation in the Link percentage was a nice nugget! Thank you two Warrens!

[@leonidpd]

Amazing! So glad to work with Warren! Greeting from Moscow :)

[@pispalantimbaland]

Gee, these plugins look old, but nothing wrong with that. How about lifting vocals with iZotope Rebalance, instead of cutting some low mids in master?

[@Producelikeapro]

That would effectively change the whole balance. His solution maintains the intention of the mixer but improves the result, exactly what a good mastering engineer should do. Plus as much as I like Rebalance it will effect the sound of the master, it’s a great tool though

[@OrangeMicMusic]

Isn't this thing about "mastering with plugins only" something that's being done since at least 5-10 years ago? And I'm talking about big mastering studios. 🤔

[@Producelikeapro]

People master will Plug ins, Hardware and of course a combination of both! That's why we do videos on all techniques!

[@OrangeMicMusic]

@@Producelikeapro right.... it's an educational video. My bad. I taught it was a new discovery 😁.

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha indeed!@@OrangeMicMusic like 99% of our videos it's educational!

[@Ein-Stuck]

K Stereo was my secret weapon..lol

[@Producelikeapro]

It is a great plug in

[@acrosonusmastering5361]

lol , spend to much détails on some psycoacoustic details, when the most important isn't solve

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Arco, thanks for sharing. What is the most important problem which hasn't been solved in your opinion?

[@acrosonusmastering5361]

@@Producelikeapro on what i hear 150hz need an eq between 100 -250hz maybe a 4 db in this video, didn't know the track just go to listen on youtube and don't get this who need just maybe a small boost for freq under 100hz but it's good

[@Recospokmuzik]

@@acrosonusmastering5361 A least someone knows how to use EQ LOL

[@3ATTR1X]

The only way to know, is to have sat in the room while he mastered this, meaning using your ears and hearing what the differences are, even though each change he makes is according to his ears, his room acoustics, monitor positioning/monitors, choice of analog gear. Does this translate using KZbin codec audio compression? Sometimes, this is why using plugins at extreme adjustments helps to hear what is happening prior to small adjustments. Plugin stack off/on can be translated on youtube videos, but you really got to be in the room at the time for the best critical judgement.

[@Producelikeapro]

Indeed!@@3ATTR1Xunfortunately try as we might we are limited by the sound quality of KZbin!

[@Arsonloke]

What daw is he using?

[@jbaranowski1990]

Dunno too but I see he use very old PC and very old software for it... Well... If it works that's what important!

[@Producelikeapro]

Mastering Enters often use WaveLab Pro

[@Producelikeapro]

Indeed, if it runs smoothly professionals will rarely change their OS unless there's a reason to!@@jbaranowski1990

[@Producelikeapro]

Probably Wave Lab

[@mesganadesta8146]

That's SADie bro.

[@Davide97x]

what a god awful track

[@Producelikeapro]

If you're going to be a Mastering Engineer you will work on many genres!

[@assshakerstudios549]

Ahhh That is an interesting plugin(uad bob katz). I get in the habit of turning to Dr. MS and Nugen Audio for all that stuff. But on the subtle mastering side this one looks peachy!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks for sharing