CRANKSHAFT BALANCING MADE EASY | Finding Crankshaft Balance Factor | 2 STROKE TUNING

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The wrong balance factor can cause annoying and damaging vibration in your bike. Balancing your crank to a different factor may be needed. In this video I explain what the crankshaft balance factor is, I show you how to find it, and I show you a super easy cheap way of making a crankshaft balancing stand.
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@masdbo
@masdbo 3 жыл бұрын
I recently made modifications to my 250 two-stroke. I added a slightly heavier piston, a larger crank pin and longer heavier rod. I also filled the balance holes with JB Weld. After getting it running I noticed at about 7000 rpm I was getting a bad vibration. I went back and checked Balance factor and it was 31. I then removed the JB Weld from the balance holes, that got the balance factor up to 38%. Evidently, JB Weld is fairly heavy. I could’ve tried it again to see if it was better, but I decided to add weights and get the factor up in the 50s. I added about 3 ounces of tungsten and it is now 55%. Will put it back together in next two days and see how it does.
@masdbo
@masdbo 3 жыл бұрын
Update, With my balance factor up to 55% there is much improvement. There is still vibration of course, but it’s better than it’s ever been. By the way, I used JB Weld to fix the weights in the crankshaft. So far so good.
@ekner
@ekner Жыл бұрын
Found myself back here and I wanna say I really like the concept of these little how-to videos! Consider mentioning them in your newer bigger videos every now and again, this is good knowledge!
@nicgyver8359
@nicgyver8359 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the do it yourself concept. You really are helping provide basic tools and concepts for us to take our 2 strokes to the next level. Keep up the great work!
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+NicGyver Thanks! DIY is the way to go!
@umarali-bc1md
@umarali-bc1md 6 жыл бұрын
you form
@WireWeHere
@WireWeHere 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to add something to your informative video. Checking your balance factor with the parts that were working well together is a great place to start. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Jim Marriott Thanks, good advice!
@jacobwestcott4536
@jacobwestcott4536 4 жыл бұрын
ive known about balancing but never knew there was even math involved, you just earned a subscribe, well done.
@bagyanagar_wasi
@bagyanagar_wasi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for explaining the math in such an easy to understand manner. Greeting from Bharata - India.
@gregrichardson5306
@gregrichardson5306 4 жыл бұрын
This is great , thanks for your time , when will we see the "tuning the crankshaft" to accept a heavier piston eg: big bore kit. You mentioned knife edging the sides .. good or bad ... what about polishing ... good or bad idea ... thanks again , Greg
@LaTrovanti
@LaTrovanti 6 жыл бұрын
Calculation made simple// First load the crankshaft to find the weight for static balance.// 50-60 % of that weight is going to be be the weight of the piston + pin for minimum vibrations. Thanks 2STROKE STUFFING !
@Mike-gr2ok
@Mike-gr2ok 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining👍
@masdbo
@masdbo 4 жыл бұрын
Actually you have it backwards I believe....50-60% of the Total weight will equal the static balance weight.
@DrCHAOSBTW
@DrCHAOSBTW 4 жыл бұрын
I may be dumb or somethjng but how do you apply that math to the actual balancing of the crank? What do you do when reassembling it to adjust the balance??
@onewisedre
@onewisedre 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrCHAOSBTW you figure this out?
@Artoconnell
@Artoconnell 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing this, simplest explanations are always best. would you be able to hand the entire assembly with the piston and all the other recip parts and verify final modifications before you put it back? cant hurt to check.
@fstarockaburns425
@fstarockaburns425 Жыл бұрын
been messing around for 2 hours thinking i could figure it out bit apparently not! thanks for giving us the sweet spots.. im gonna give this a try 2moro again and hopefully get the crank back in asap-
@sunnyoutdoors
@sunnyoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
you are the best/pro 2 stroke guy in the world!
@p.k.motorsports5104
@p.k.motorsports5104 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't upgrade to a big bore just a window so I gotta go the other way but this was what I needed to see 💯
@rhinusbreedt9772
@rhinusbreedt9772 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I learned so much from watching your videos. Am in the process of installing a wiseco piston on my wife's yz250f 2013 and didn't think of the extra mass involved. Will be sure to tell the guys who is pressing the new crank and nikasil plating the sleeve to make sure they balance the crank with the new heavier piston. Thank you
@kdrengine
@kdrengine 2 жыл бұрын
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@kdrengine
@kdrengine 2 жыл бұрын
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@wmc9722
@wmc9722 5 жыл бұрын
Very well constructed explanation and video. Thank you.
@johncoscia5258
@johncoscia5258 Жыл бұрын
Good stuffing i have a ? Will an increase in stroke , compression and bang cause the B.F. required to change ? Mine seems to be going up which tells me to remove weight from the piston .
@chewywrigley
@chewywrigley 2 жыл бұрын
excellent simple way tob find your Balance factor. Is there any way to change it? I need c. half the piston weight to get the BF I need.
@mcflathead
@mcflathead 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent! Concise, clear well produced video! You answered more questions in 5 minutes than an hours worth of googling...
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@SlangenRacing
@SlangenRacing 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! I have been trying to find whatever balancing factor i would need for a pitbike 4-stroke super motard. Has horizontal 1cyl engine 62mm stroke and 10-12k rpm. What factor would you go for here?
@ivankuipers9074
@ivankuipers9074 Жыл бұрын
55% -/+
@hiscifi2986
@hiscifi2986 8 ай бұрын
I did a big bore kit on a Husqvarna Chainsaw, but the new piston was lighter by about an ounce. It worked Ok. Not yet run-in, but it seems to be more powerful.
@anthonywilliams4638
@anthonywilliams4638 5 жыл бұрын
Whilst this upload was of short duration, ( 5 minutes ) the subject matter is covered reasonably well, although it raises more questions than answers, which can be noted from the responses in the comments below. However, the definitive book on tuning single, multi, parallel , opposed piston, and split single engines , whether two stroke or four stroke, is contained in the 1949 publication by Phil Irving, called " Tuning for Speed " . This book is the Bible for tuning engines to maximum performance. Amazon sell it for a small sum, and it is still the best book for the home tuning person, without doubt.
@montyhannah8022
@montyhannah8022 5 жыл бұрын
After I get my ballance factor what do I do next ? I didn't have to add any hung weight, does that mean my assembly is ballanced ? Thank You Very much ! I really like your video.
@olerasmussen1608
@olerasmussen1608 2 жыл бұрын
Hi From denmark. Thanks for all the good vidios. Some say that 50% balancing factor is the right amount?? I tune my own 23cc 2 stroke engines (Zenoah), I make the conrod and pistons lighter and the piston-pin, then I will have to remove material from the counterweights, right?? If I want the most RPM's out of the engines, what factor would be the best for that? Or the smoothest running? The engines are used in 1/5 scale TouringCar Race, the cylinder are sitting at about 45dg angel. Hope you will comment this. Thanks Ole
@DrCHAOSBTW
@DrCHAOSBTW 4 жыл бұрын
how would you go about doing the actual adjustment during reassembly??
@quinnjorge8820
@quinnjorge8820 3 жыл бұрын
Instablaster...
@TVFB28
@TVFB28 Жыл бұрын
Would you have a suggestion for a balance factor on a yz490 engine? I'm starting an atv build using one, and I'd like as little vibration as possible.
@muhammadal-fathoni1001
@muhammadal-fathoni1001 7 ай бұрын
can I ask about the balance factor, I have a motorbike with a separate balancer, I want to remove the balancer and move the drop point of my crankshaft by adding weights to the crankshaft, can you tell me how to do it but not cause or reduce the vibration effect, because I have plans to added 4 weight points to increase torque and changed the crankshaft drop point to 5°-3° before the highest point of the crankshaft, thank you
@jonienglish3231
@jonienglish3231 6 жыл бұрын
Good Video i am going to try on my Briggs /stratton 250cc snow engine rebuild
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Joni English Thanks!
@tantony333
@tantony333 6 жыл бұрын
You can explain to me for 4 stroke : if piston and conrod is heavier than crankshaft that make more torque or more RPM ? And with 4 stroke how i should do them when my bike has the fastest speed from 0m to 200m? Thank u so much
@jizzybordirkomputermahkota4807
@jizzybordirkomputermahkota4807 6 жыл бұрын
I am your subsciber from indonesia. Thank's for giving me info. I want to ask if the standart motor manufacturer also apply 55%? Is that count only for tune up machines only? Thank'$
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subscribing! Manufacturers use various factors depending on engine orientation, frame design etc.
@okhefirmansyahchanel6031
@okhefirmansyahchanel6031 5 жыл бұрын
I dont your speaking.i dont speaking inglis
@andersonabdullah5064
@andersonabdullah5064 4 жыл бұрын
Dia bagi tahu, berdasarkan keadaan bentuk engin motor.
@dianstudiopro1600
@dianstudiopro1600 3 жыл бұрын
ha'a
@DAY7703
@DAY7703 5 жыл бұрын
Hi..tq for explanation..can i use this calculation for motorcycle that have a counter weight balancer?
@c__TattinhNhi
@c__TattinhNhi 2 жыл бұрын
may i ask more, such a balance is to let the crankshaft rotate at any rpm so that it is balanced when operating
@dyanblue32
@dyanblue32 Жыл бұрын
If we have number of balance static from your lesson, what can we use to that number (%) for engine??
@mansoorahmad5191
@mansoorahmad5191 6 жыл бұрын
Hi brothere nice to know your knowledge I just have question about four stroke crankshaft balance factor is it same or different if different please make the video for fourstroke. Thanks Regards, Your followers
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Same concept for 4t!
@andersonabdullah5064
@andersonabdullah5064 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the big tips
@luisorrantia5436
@luisorrantia5436 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am Felipe, I am a follower of your page, I have learned a lot about 2-stroke bicycle engines, I have a ZEDA YD100 50mm, my engine reaches 8000rpm, I corrected the balance factor of the crankshaft to 52.5% but I still have vibration from 6500 Rpm. The question I have? Do I raise the factor to 55%? What do you think? Thank you Felipe
@ryan-danodano
@ryan-danodano 2 жыл бұрын
Mine just goes straight down on the rod end ,, no weights. So adding weight wont do it should i assume i have to remove weight and or add to counterweight?
@variedadesrd6176
@variedadesrd6176 4 жыл бұрын
hola una pregunta, para una scooter horizontal 90cc cual seria % Balance correcto para que vibre
@bairescycles7501
@bairescycles7501 4 жыл бұрын
I have a doubt, the hang weight is the weight that You put on the craftshaft to balance? With tugsten
@ridefast591
@ridefast591 6 жыл бұрын
Alex help me out...im back and forth with a pretty knowledgable guy bit he says u do this wrong..same way I do it. You counted the con rod in the recip mass than you added to the bobweight the con rod to get the full hang weight. Tgis hang weight is then calculated in% of the total reciprocating weight.He swears you are doing it wrong and Connor use the conrod twice ...please clear this up as I am referring him to this video
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not quite sure what part he's disagreeing with?
@ridefast591
@ridefast591 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING anyway I'd does not make sense...he says no using the small end of rod twice in the equation. It has to be added to recip mass as it is part of it. But then it hangs as u get static balance so it is added to the bob weight to get the full hang weight.he thinks you should only divide the bobweight into the recip mass not add the rod and use the full hang weight.
@msefriyadi4842
@msefriyadi4842 3 жыл бұрын
How many % for horizontal engine ?
@plankton3979
@plankton3979 2 жыл бұрын
Is it same concept for the secondary balancer type motorcycle?
@ThanhNguyen-yf7ie
@ThanhNguyen-yf7ie 11 ай бұрын
it helped me a lot thank you for sharing
@kidkidu2
@kidkidu2 4 жыл бұрын
75% for a ktm 300 exc two stroke is good? the motor is probably about 30 degrees away from the cylinder being pointed straight forward. i've got 295/395 which gives 0.746... so about a 75%; i am going to assemble it like this anyway, but i am curious if it's an ok number.
@THISLOVETHISHATE99
@THISLOVETHISHATE99 2 ай бұрын
what does it mean if my rod is heavier then the balance weight though i didnt want to remove my crank bearings
@Karelinish
@Karelinish 6 жыл бұрын
Hi I have seen and enjoyed many of your videos I especially liked your nitrometh moped. I was wondering if you're looking for power why don't you use efi. I have seen some efi kits that can even do duel fuel injection so you can vary the amount of nitro to methane. The company I found that looked best was ecotrons small engine efi. Thank you and keep up the good work.
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Karelin James I might look into that! EFI on high power, high rpm 2 strokes are extremely difficult to get right when running gasoline. Methanol/nitro is far less picky about afr qnd should be much easier.
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Karelin James ...and Thanks!
@Karelinish
@Karelinish 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING Thanks I also believe that the kit above can control the ignition timing as well. I have been looking at this kit for a while but have lacked the time and funds to pull the trigger (about $600) and I would love to see somone talented like you to try it first. Thanks for looking into it again its called ecotrons small engine efi kit.
@nikolaiownz
@nikolaiownz 5 жыл бұрын
That diesel heater you use when it's cold. How pricey is it to use ?
@andersonabdullah5064
@andersonabdullah5064 4 жыл бұрын
The calculations can be use on crankshaft balance on 4 stroke motorbike?
@svenomick5857
@svenomick5857 6 жыл бұрын
very good way of explaining
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Sveno Mick Thanks!
@tristantruebody9793
@tristantruebody9793 6 жыл бұрын
coolest youtube channel ever!!! I know the channel is called 2stroke stuffing but do you by any chance have any tips and tricks for 4 stroke motors please
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Tristan Truebody Thanks! Sorry, I'm not much of a foul stroke guy 😁
@MudholHound
@MudholHound 2 ай бұрын
Why does it have knife edged cheeks? Weight reduction or it is how it is?
@yukocabresos7772
@yukocabresos7772 6 жыл бұрын
What if i want a big result for the balance factor? Should i add weigth or reduce? Thank you
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Add.
@iPh3x
@iPh3x 4 жыл бұрын
So if I measured my balance factor to be 54 percent, that means Im ok in balance and no weight has to be removed from crankshaft? Engine is 1 cylinder long stroke 45 degree engine.
@pattybeeman
@pattybeeman 5 жыл бұрын
I think your math calculation is incorrect. You use the partial weight of the connecting rod twice, (26.65 + 32.26 = 58.91) and also for the total reciprocating weight of 108 (26.65 + mass of piston/ring/pin/circlip). There is no reason to have the 26.65 gm in both top and bottom numbers of your equation. (58.91/108) Your equation could be 32.26/81.35 = .3965 or 39.65%. You are not taking into consideration the rotating mass with added flywheel and timing gear weight. I think if you want to static balance it, you have to figure out the counter weight of the crank without the connecting rod attached but with the fly wheel and timing gear mounted. You could use your hook method and add washers and weigh that mass. Then if you were trying to achieve a zero balance, then ideally you would want your piston/rings/pin/circlips/bearings/con rod to weigh the same as the counter weight of the crank. I think this is why balancing a rotating assembly requires metal added to the counter weights a lot of time. My 2 cents.
@arthurdombroskie3083
@arthurdombroskie3083 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, just got my new small bore kit in the mail! Can't wait to see how it runs.
@c__TattinhNhi
@c__TattinhNhi 2 жыл бұрын
The elbow is located at 12 o'clock so it's at 3 o'clock, can we apply this method?
@abayleomotovlog5287
@abayleomotovlog5287 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video sir
@slipperkayyu8177
@slipperkayyu8177 6 жыл бұрын
I have question...if piston 54mm how about head or squid bank..cut 2mm 41diememter and 13degre is better for piston 54mm 2stroke model kawasaki leo star
@rajeshrs1226
@rajeshrs1226 4 жыл бұрын
Great. But I want to know how it works. I mean how adding weight keep it still.
@jasonwood7340
@jasonwood7340 4 жыл бұрын
The counterweight on the crankshaft is meant to balance out the weight of the reciprocating mass (piston, connecting rod, etc). He kept adding weight until the weight hanging from the connecting rod is equal to the weight of the crankshaft counterweight so that no matter the rotation of the crankshaft the weight is equal. Check out "balanced rotating assembly" to learn more about what all is involved.
@jimfitzgibbon5492
@jimfitzgibbon5492 5 жыл бұрын
The rod has a upper end weight & a lower end weight. Weighing the upper end weight twice does not give the total weight of the rod. You also did not include the big end bearings. I balanced engines dynamic (spin balance) for years in a racing auto machine shop. The crank need to be taken apart & the rods upper & lower end weight weighed separate along with the lower bearing. The crank pressed back together & a bobweight made with the 55% upper weight added. Then balanced . When balanced Reassemble the crank. I know its more work but it will be much closer.
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA 6 жыл бұрын
I want to go for as little vibration as possible with 30cc 2-stroke single cylinder engines running 10,000 rpm to 13,000 rpm. (for RC helicopters, which are sensitive to engine vibration). IMO, you should include the application of the "balance factor" in this vid, because your viewers are still in their shop with a crank on parallel bars.
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+EarthSurferUSA My recent video where I rebalance the Spx crank could help, I'll put a link in the video. Thanks!
@kylesnyder2253
@kylesnyder2253 6 жыл бұрын
That is awesome. I also fly gasser helis and I'm looking into this as well since BH Hanson and Toxic Al wont be modifying engines forever.
@GP_TUNER
@GP_TUNER 6 жыл бұрын
so to make the balance factor can use two alternatives whether it can do drilling on the crankshaft and enlarge the piston diameter .. is it like that? Sorry, my English is bad
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Galih Putra GPS Racing To change the balance factor you need to either add/remove weight from the big end half or counterweight half of the crankshaft. Drill or grind to remove weight, add heavy metal(tungsten/Mallory) to add weight.
@GP_TUNER
@GP_TUNER 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING thanks, I'm looking forward to the continuation of this video, you're the best
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Galih Putra GPS Racing Thanks!
@ismailabuhassanismail6664
@ismailabuhassanismail6664 6 жыл бұрын
Galih Putra GPS Racing ok baik megikuti berminat
@phefhzalone
@phefhzalone 6 жыл бұрын
sir u have video how to add weight to to crank or remove weight to the crank to make it balance? 0.55 is the weight that u will add?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+pepito roaquin I'll be making one when I rebalance the new Spx crank. You basically add/remove weight to get to the desired number like 0.55
@phefhzalone
@phefhzalone 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING yes pls i really want to learn and u teach me a lot,, for now i know how to get the formula,,, but then what shoud i do with that,,
@restycastillo6951
@restycastillo6951 6 жыл бұрын
if my crankshaft are balance for my suzuki 120 90's 2 stroke model can i get some speed ? thanks for answer my mess question ..just new
@MrLeslloyd
@MrLeslloyd 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video showing how to achieve a BF,ie you've found the BF is say 50%,but it should be 60%.
@craigjones9244
@craigjones9244 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks that was really educational 👍🏻
@amoresgaylordd.9473
@amoresgaylordd.9473 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Video Dude! But Can you Clear to me what hang weight means? weight to be added to obtain 55% balance factor, is that right?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
It's the weight you hang from the conrod to find your balance factor.
@amoresgaylordd.9473
@amoresgaylordd.9473 6 жыл бұрын
Oh! Now i know thanks! Do you have email or fb dude i have some questions regarding to modification. Can you help me out!
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
2strokestuffing@gmail.com
@amoresgaylordd.9473
@amoresgaylordd.9473 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING Ok Bro! Thanks
@pulesjet
@pulesjet 6 жыл бұрын
Why was the Connecting rod included twice ? Once on it's own and as the group with piston/Pin/Rings ?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Cause you need to know the total reciprocating mass and just the conrod weight for the calculation.
@jizzybordirkomputermahkota4807
@jizzybordirkomputermahkota4807 6 жыл бұрын
I weigh the conrod directly weighing 90gram but if weigh according to your way then the result 30gram. this is a different result What do you think?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
"my way" will give you the approximate weight of the reciprocating part of it, that's why.
@robhoward35
@robhoward35 6 жыл бұрын
Bro, I done r&r my 250cc at home.now I wish I would of seen this vid. First..saved a ton of money with a Big hammer &finess
@mike3684
@mike3684 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed something simple, but didn't you effectively only weigh (about) half of the ConRod?? Isn't its contribution to the reciprocating mass about double what you would measure on the scale with that method?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
It's just an estimate weighing it like that, but it gets you close. It's complicated cause the closer you get to the big end the more it's contributing to rotational mass vs reciprocating. As there's nothing like the "right" balance factor it doesn't really matter if the number you end up with is say 5% off what it would've been if you did the math as long as it works.
@mike3684
@mike3684 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING ok that actually makes a lot of sense, I never considered the fact that not all of the Conrod contributes to reciprocating motion... Weighing the whole conrod would cause you to be on the heavy side, then??
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Totally understandable. Yep it would
@Sarjanamotor23
@Sarjanamotor23 6 жыл бұрын
i want to ask you, is balancing machine horizontal with vertical it different, if different what is the difference? please reply for me, thank you sir
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Horizontal is typically 50%, every setup is different and there's impossible to say anything more specific, sorry.
@Sarjanamotor23
@Sarjanamotor23 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING thank you very much sir
@abiyallfarel2934
@abiyallfarel2934 4 жыл бұрын
Helo master What the 0,55 is wight piston or size to over size pisto....?? Sorry my spiking english is not good.
@TheAtvRider90
@TheAtvRider90 6 жыл бұрын
When just replacing the crankshaft bearings do you need to do this?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Nope!
@TheAtvRider90
@TheAtvRider90 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING thank you
@MaDcOw1986
@MaDcOw1986 6 жыл бұрын
In terms of engine performance, what is the difference between an unbalanced internals vs a balanced engine internals on a dyno? 🤔
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting question, never seen much research on the subject.
@roberthoard639
@roberthoard639 5 жыл бұрын
Vibration is lost energy get rid of vibratiion,,,,and
@VndNvwYvvSvv
@VndNvwYvvSvv 2 жыл бұрын
50% will balance for idle. Higher like 70% will balance for high RPM. You are converting up/down primary imbalance to fore/aft secondary imbalance.
@Sketch1994
@Sketch1994 6 жыл бұрын
How would you go about measuring a counterbalance shaft? On the crankshaft the connecting rod is already at the right radius but the counterbalance shaft has no point to hang the weights from.
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Sketch1994 One way is to just calculate it, since it has no reciprocating mass it shouldn't be too difficult.
@Sketch1994
@Sketch1994 6 жыл бұрын
Typically it is indeed the same as the calculated mass at the crankshaft. Though I have fitted an aftermarket rod, I don't have the stock piston(I have never even seen one), and my only constant is the balance shaft which I can't measure! I have some pics of how I tried to measure it but it was very inaccurate due to all the crap that were involved.
@777cerovski777
@777cerovski777 6 жыл бұрын
Can you show us. Thanks for the videos
@asdfgggqwer3339
@asdfgggqwer3339 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Enjoyed all of your videos. Great stuff. So if I'm understanding correctly, to achieve the perfect balance, hung weight=piston weight?
@asdfgggqwer3339
@asdfgggqwer3339 4 жыл бұрын
And if piston weight > hung weight, is it considered safe to trim off some weight from the piston or doing this will cause more problems
@asdfgggqwer3339
@asdfgggqwer3339 4 жыл бұрын
Eg: bore x stroke... 50x49.5 to 62x65.5
@rhinusbreedt9772
@rhinusbreedt9772 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. So if the balance is way out or not enough they usually add weight to your crank. The piston will rarely be too light to shave weight from the crank as I understand it
@vladturaev9905
@vladturaev9905 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good explanation 👍☺️
@tedyarch8636
@tedyarch8636 Жыл бұрын
this same with 4 stroke engine?
@corridorjunior2066
@corridorjunior2066 6 жыл бұрын
What do I do if my crankshaft stays in position without any hung weight? Im working on the 66cc mb engine trying to balance my crankshaft. Also I can’t tell if it is really staying in position or if there is too much friction between the bars and the crankshaft, so I might try to use some bearings instead or the metal bars.
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Then you do the same calculation with "0" as the hung weight.
@corridorjunior2066
@corridorjunior2066 6 жыл бұрын
Okay that's what I thought. So I guess that means I need to lighten the side of the crankshaft that the conrod is on so that I can hang more weight and increase my balance factor?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@phefhzalone
@phefhzalone 6 жыл бұрын
waiting for the next video of this sir,,
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+pepito roaquin It's coming. Lots of stuff on my plate atm.
@theladdiesda8190
@theladdiesda8190 Жыл бұрын
Why not split the crank to weigh the individual components accurately then reassemble to balance?
@juandelacruz-fl5rp
@juandelacruz-fl5rp 4 жыл бұрын
Thank's for giving me info,,,informative, thank
@jericferrer3472
@jericferrer3472 5 жыл бұрын
informative, thanks dude from PH.
@lloyddotimas6302
@lloyddotimas6302 5 жыл бұрын
How do you balance a single cylinder engine with a separate balancing shaft?
@ujang0711
@ujang0711 2 жыл бұрын
+1 For this. Have you gotten any answers for this?
@blkdna748
@blkdna748 6 жыл бұрын
I have an engine with slant cylinder so how the factor will be ?
@bengkelbawahpokok6753
@bengkelbawahpokok6753 4 жыл бұрын
How can we use the calculated balance factor? What is the wrong balance factor? If we get 55% balance factor, what is the next step? Do I need to take 55% weight off the crankshaft? Or add 45% more weight?
@corydemeray7594
@corydemeray7594 3 жыл бұрын
im sorry but thats where i was left at the end of video to.... i would think that 58 grams is what you want on the upper half.. so drill 50 grams out of the flywheels above the conrod?????? 108[stock weight]-58 [new balanced weight]=50 [desired removal amount?] can you confirm this 2 stroke..im in canada here and its research and development season.. i got into this last summer and scratched up 3 cylinders.. i hate breakdowns and want to prolong and prosper instead of gouging them to death now
@corydemeray7594
@corydemeray7594 3 жыл бұрын
very good and obvious question. im so glad you exist and that we think alike.. no else asked this..were obviouslyvery dumb. or damn brilliant. or just awkwardly different.
@markwhite8582
@markwhite8582 4 жыл бұрын
Does the flywheel and clutch weight change or help the % ? im thinking of my vespa, with the clutch diectly on the crank?
@jasonwood7340
@jasonwood7340 4 жыл бұрын
I think flywheels and clutches are already balanced. At least on normal engines...
@berkelgarage2349
@berkelgarage2349 6 жыл бұрын
What kind off front fork did u use on you're bike?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+erwin van holten Showa from a Motorhispania RX50, nothing special.
@aiooongladyfrines4935
@aiooongladyfrines4935 3 жыл бұрын
How much best % for engine 9000-14.000 rpm ( drag )? Thank You.
@nosyajnidreb7199
@nosyajnidreb7199 4 жыл бұрын
Is this balancing works on 4 stroke?
@DisruptiveUnicorn98k
@DisruptiveUnicorn98k 4 жыл бұрын
I used a hammer and socket to rebuild my dt 175 rod and
@jolli6773
@jolli6773 6 жыл бұрын
my crankshaft goes conrod down without any weight. what should i do?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+Olli Hakkarainen That was the case with my Doppler Endurance crank too. Haven't checked the ER1 yet, but I suspect it's the same. Hopeless... Depending on conrod weight your balance factor is probably under 20%, to raise it you must either remove material from the big end side, add heavy metal(tungsten, "Mallory") to the counterweight side, or a combination of both.
@123ostemad
@123ostemad Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! How do I go about this on my 2 cylinder 2-stroke?? :(
@abayleomotovlog5287
@abayleomotovlog5287 4 жыл бұрын
Keep it up!
@gassgass438
@gassgass438 4 жыл бұрын
sir, please answer, what percentage of balance factors is best for my engine that works in the range of 1000 to 10000 RPM ? Thank you
@mareksumguy1887
@mareksumguy1887 4 жыл бұрын
Funny joke.
@easy6973
@easy6973 6 жыл бұрын
sir, do static balance is a must for 4stroke engine?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Impossible to say, so many factors. Try around 50-60%
@mansoorahmad5191
@mansoorahmad5191 Жыл бұрын
what's your opinion if balance factor is 100%......?
@martygt3357
@martygt3357 2 ай бұрын
Makes sense to me!
@Radugazon
@Radugazon 2 жыл бұрын
Cristal clear 👍
@davidchapman3563
@davidchapman3563 6 жыл бұрын
U da best mannn!!
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
+David Chapman Thanks!
@harryloibl5183
@harryloibl5183 2 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy
@ridefast591
@ridefast591 6 жыл бұрын
I want to stuff some crank holes...anything better than JB weld you suggest?
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
They used to glue in cork. Works good, and no problem if it comes loose.
@ridefast591
@ridefast591 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING thanks but I was meant the epoxy itself what epoxy to glue the cork in...i may just weld a little bit of a cap over aluminum plugs.
@2STROKESTUFFING
@2STROKESTUFFING 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, ok. JB works great, so does Devcon F (and most other epoxies I've tried. Clean well before application!
@ridefast591
@ridefast591 6 жыл бұрын
2STROKE STUFFING thank you. Balancing up the gas bike crank...hopefully you will get there in your future vids.
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