Crawler Tire Test Round 1 JConcepts vs Proline Who Wins?

This was very very unexpected... seriously maybe I need to rethink this? Links are below for all these tires and the Capra, use them to help support Exocaged RC, Thanks!!
Proline Krawler Predator
Amain bit.ly/3xiAMlf
Horizon bit.ly/3I5Hcsb
Ebay ebay.us/Jy12si
JConcepts Tusk
Amain bit.ly/3ii6qck
Horizon bit.ly/3JqN1C0
Proline Trencher
Amain bit.ly/37TQQ4Z (g8)
Horizon bit.ly/37CV6FB (Predator)
Amazon amzn.to/36fOI6Y (Predator)
Ebay ebay.us/Oz47Db (G8)
JConcepts Ruptures (Out of Stock Everywhere)
Axial Capra Kit
Amain bit.ly/3xkvzJN
Horizon bit.ly/3CUV8nN
Amazon amzn.to/3N6iY4O
Ebay ebay.us/4jUPpZ
Axial Capra 2ws
Amain bit.ly/3ruT5D8 (Green)
Amain bit.ly/3nITFK0 (Red)
Horizonbit.ly/3opRPza (Both)
Amazon amzn.to/3qqwshZ (Green)
Amazon amzn.to/37J3IKV (Red)
Ebay ebay.us/ILjNlg (Green)
Ebay ebay.us/IAN2Ci
Axial Capra 4ws
Amain bit.ly/3AZSb4y (Nitto)
Amain bit.ly/3Gs25Ny (Currie)
Horizon bit.ly/34gAaTD (Both)
Amazon amzn.to/3L7d41F (Nitto)
Amazon amzn.to/3L4dTYO (Currie)
Ebay ebay.us/5u49lJ (Nitto)
Ebay ebay.us/8Crgly (Currie)
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[@brianbutton1591]

I think it’s going to be tough because they should have same wheel & foams awesome show as always.

[@aggiechad2005]

Unless foams are left equal this test fails. A good foam can make all the difference and is more likely why you saw the results you did. Want to do a tire shootout...use the same foam in all tires.

[@DESOUSAB]

Thank you. Pretty much a useless video as a result.

[@Loomis_Fishin]

The thing is he has different foams in the tires that perform the best in his opinion. If he was to have the same exact foam in every tire that would be a useless video due to not all tires perfoform using the same foam. CI foams in the proline is an awesome choice alt foams for tusks again great choice and the ruptures just perform period.

[@indigen-nosrc7088]

Absolutely. And on 1 rig

[@DESOUSAB]

@@Loomis_Fishin Um, yeah - OK.

[@Loomis_Fishin]

@@DESOUSAB okay have you not seen the video comparing hyrax vs tusks using PL dual stage in both on the same exact vehicle the PL made the tusks look like garbage will the hyrax preformed great with the same foams. If the foam isn’t tuned for the tire to preform then the video would be useless. Also most the vehicles he has had these tires on are sub 5lbs or under so the Capra is in that range so weight wasn’t an issue.

[@afraz1er]

Move the concepts forward. Some of us are just looking for the best performing tire.....period. Not everyone cares about "scale".

[@MikeJonesRacing4420]

Take the top performing tire from each manufacturer into the final showdown!!

[@bbeckers24]

I'd love to see a full series on this. Each tire using same set of wheels and each of the different foams to see which does the best and which foam and tire combo does best overall.

[@v65sabreking]

My krawler's predator compound run the best with factory fomes and they don't climb as good with other foams

[@scalebuildersguild]

Nice repeatable place to test! Love it! Gives me some insight up here in the Great White North for Nationals! Thank you!

[@just_inolredneck8319]

I’d leave them.. but use the other two and make it top 3 move on… it’s crazy that a tire that good isn’t legal.. what’s/who’s to say u can’t cut a tire n 1:1 to almost b that way.. I get it.. it’s not a dot tire/factory tread design.. but still a heck of a tire

[@obsproductions4424]

Need to use the same foams.

[@hilltoprccrawlers1979]

To hell with SORRCA! This is a performance tire test. Ruptures move on! Great video. :)

[@gonncalomariamonteiro4176]

If you are trying to see what is the best all out tire (foam combo)...you should leave it as it is...Ruptures win this test and move on to the next. If you are more concerned with SORRCA rules and super scale ...shoudn't the rig be a scaler as well?! Honestly, I'm not that familiar with those rules...granted the Capra is legal (class 3 ?)...but is it a scale rig? Get my point? If you wanna go full SORRCA, full scale, use a rig that complies with those rules... (Class2) I think thats the better option for all of us! We get to see more videos !!! Love your work man. Keep it up! Cheers

[@g.pantazis29]

So what foams all recommend for the ruptures???

[@mcsbikelife3829]

If only j concepts would make more of these tires !!!!! I’ve been waiting on back order since dec !!!!! Get it together j concepts

[@rcilluminati26]

JConcepts new slogan, "The best tires money cant buy" Seriously, you cant buy them, lol! Please stop making even more people want them

[@dubbleportion]

Yes foams and weight make a difference but in my experience I have tried most of them plus some all kinds of foams and weights if you ck my videos out you see the winner for me and the terain in NorCal thanks for your testing 👍

[@Vanquishfanboy]

Proline tires love proline foams from my experience But also from my experience I put proline foams in both jconcepts and proline tires and the jconcepts always outperform my proline tires

[@rolandomota6852]

can you review some tires ive been thinking of getting (pro-line_chisel 2.2) i actually have 2 just need the remaining 2😁

[@dirtrider88]

its not about how far a tire goes but how easily it gets there. nobody cares if a tire can get the furthest if you take 15 minutes to get there. if you spend 5 min on 1 gate in a competition (havent seen one thats not timed) your fucked with a DNF cause your never gonna finish. for me the trenchers won. what compound were they, g8 or predator?

[@dirtrider88]

seriously what fucking compound were they???

[@cobrascalerc]

I would move the trenchers and the tusks up to find out the best scale leagle tire

[@shadenphoenix]

Um... I'm new to all this so I'm not that knowledgeable in all this muckity-muck... But what makes the one 'illegal'? Also, if it made it into the test, and Won, shouldn't it go on to the next?

[@urdonercjeremyburris7541]

Why you comparing tires when they all have different foams and rims? The foams change everything with a tire and same with rims

[@markhinkle3234]

Do the wildcard option. Keep them only to compare to the overall winner just for fun.

[@williamhansbrough5465]

Mickey Thompson Baja Pro Xs are what the jconcept tusk tires are designed from

[@JMHZ2401]

I say that you do not follow scale completely, so go with best tire.

[@neilpawlyk9457]

I say take out the Ruptures. But put them up against the winner of the shoot-out.

[@nickhathaway4617]

Same rims same foams or else it doesn't mean anything it's still a cool video though

[@runnerbaba]

Proline hyrax would be cool...

[@williamhansbrough5465]

When are the jconcept holes coming out

[@montesamapping]

I've watched this video for the second time today and is certainly valuable, BUT real patterns are much more complex than your interesting "ramp" and dust, mud, rocks irregularity play and important role in the final score of tires. We have bought tons of premium (JConcept, Proline, Traxxas, Duratrax, Pitbull Louise) and cheap (Austar, no branded..) tires to compare them... and for sure premium are really better, BUT we have not yet stated "WHO IS THE BEST TIRE" because it depends on the patterns of the match. Thanks for your job !

[@kevinklein1806]

Same foam needs to be used for a proper tire test and also clean the tire with rubbing alcohol. Maybe look into breaking in the Krawlers a LOT more.

[@mikep.9338]

🤔 pl 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 minus the Hyrax

[@Loomis_Fishin]

Trenchers and tusks so we have a good scale tire. Then bring the cheaters in to clean house.

[@zachknetter8102]

I think you should do a cheap Amazon/eBay tire test for fun. It would be cool to see comparisons between knock offs and the real tires. Plus for people new to the hobby who don’t have the money to spend on a quality set of tires, wheels, and foams can find a potentially decent budget tire.

[@dezfan]

I’m not worried about “rules”. I want to know what the best tires are.

[@reidmartin3479]

What wheels are mounted on the Krawlers?

[@rcpayne6416]

You should do a Foam Face Off?

[@never-stock-rc2968]

Why aren't the last ones "legal" Joe?

[@bradcarpenter1881]

Jconcepts know their stuff, they make some of the best quality products in the rc community, beautiful!

[@Gmcworrior1]

I am interested in just which is the best. Thank you for doing another one of the videos like this. I appreciate it knowing which is better, legal or not. I watched last years version but new compounds have come out. Let alone tred styles

[@urdonercjeremyburris7541]

What can work good for him will not always work best for you. Everyone drives different, Everyone's rig is built different, Everyone drives on different terrain

[@Jonsellscoolstuff]

have a scale and non scale winner 🏆 👏

[@TheRCBuildersPost]

Sense a little bias here my guy 🤣😂

[@tv-nm5qb]

voodoo tires.1.9 vex red test please

[@rcchallenge8626]

Nice I ordered the Ruptures last night because of the previous video you done on them 🤔 thanks for confirming I made the right choice with this video this morning 😂 can’t wait to run them on with rose gold wheels on my Gmade Bom with the CB022 cab running a rose gold theme throughout 😁

[@ashleyconnelley556]

That’s what I would do for sure my man

[@ExocagedRC]

As make the non legal tires the final battle?

[@ashleyconnelley556]

Yep

[@ashleyconnelley556]

Just to see if the non legal tire will out do whatever the best of the bunch is

[@Vanquishfanboy]

I think the argument about foams is true and would be valid if they were super close like 1inch apart

[@JRLawson1234]

It would be cool to see the BFG Predator next to the BFG G8 and the KM3 Predator next to the G8. Of course they would all need to run the same foam and be vented the same. Also a side note, give us the temperature. From what I understand that makes a difference between those two compounds. I have no problem with seeing how other tires compare to the J-Concepts but I’ll never the buy the J-Concepts because they don’t look real and are not comp legal, well the comps I’m interested in. Cool vid. Keep it up!

[@nismotuningrocks]

Krawlers in G8 work much better in my experience. I agree with the others saying that wheels and foams have to be consistent to have a fair competition. The ruptures don't need any more proof of concept.

[@vintagerc9173]

For price and performance you can’t beat the J Concept tires! Love my Landmines and Tusk tires on my Etco!

[@brent042081]

Move them forward

[@Mletchworth]

How about a wet ramp test?

[@simonbar7665]

Big like Good test❤

[@robmontana4971]

How about the hyrax G8 and Predator against the J concepts!!

[@robmontana4971]

And just out of curiosity how about the modified Canyon tire...i'll send you a new set to test against!

[@georgem.6136]

Get The Trenchers in !

[@burtashbrook1159]

I love my ruptures,have a few sets and although I am late to the party,I say if it fits,it rips. Let the j-concepts lead the pack and see who can keep up

[@Furadi]

Long time proline user here. Recently tested out the Tusks and Ruptures using the same wheels and foams I run in prolines and the prolines got destroyed. It's not even a comparison. I don't think there is a clear winner between the tusks and ruptures though cause it's going to depends on the terrain. The ruptures offer more clearance and bite but they also raise CG which could hurt on sidehills.

[@modzilla74]

I'd include the outlaw tires, but with an asterisk , especially if they win overall.

[@CitizenBob40000]

Allow them to move on.

[@kevingoodrich3050]

The ruptures are the same as the old hot body rovers. The best pure crawling tire. I would toss them out and if you wanted put them up against the overall winner. I ran the tusks on my scrap build never driven crawler and ended up second in a comp.

[@timholcomb4478]

Hell yeah tire time

[@rc-daily]

I think you always have to keep the ruptures as like a wildcard.

[@Andy_Yates]

I'd love to see you hose down that ramp and see if the results are the same under wet conditions. Here in the Pacific Northwest, crawling on dry rocks has been an exception and not the norm. I'd say let the Ruptures run as a wildcard, but bring in another set to see what 4 sets of sorrca legal tires will do

[@GaryJohnston-sc8pb]

2 jconcepts

[@BigSungHobbies]

The test results are pretty consistent with what I have seen on my rigs on my channel. The test would have been more valid if same foams were used; however, I don't think that would have changed the results much at least from my own testing. I do think it will be good to move Tusk and Trenchers to next stage as they are comp legal tires. Once a winner is reached then test Ruptures against the winner as a reference point, but I think we already know what the end result will be though.

[@ashleyconnelley556]

Yep sounds perfect

[@keithjung3544]

Love my JConcepts Ruptures and Tusks. Absolute best tires out there. My Scorpios are pretty damn good too.

[@Ginga_Ninja_RC]

The ruptures are already known to be a great sticky tire. I’m more interested in tires that I CAN use in competitions.

[@stompindakka3222]

got any Pit bull rc tires in the running or just the proline vs jconcepts?

[@SnarkyRC]

Yep. I run Pitbull, Jconcepts, Boom Racing and Proline. They all make decent tires.

[@heady2008]

Do one more test between the Ruptures and Tusk's after swapping wheels and foams. The beadlocks used on the Ruptures have quite a bit of weight to them

[@gudmundursveinsson9060]

Let the ruptures continue

[@ChrisDavis-eq9lj]

I don't think the Ruptures should continue. Not saying I wouldn't give them a try for trail running, but narrow the field to comp legal. I'm going to have to agree with others, matching foams is going to be a must for this kind of testing. And booting the PL Crawlers? Ummm, drive through some dust, dirt, damp soil or sand on way to the climb. Crawlers and KM3 MTs self clean and hook up faster than the sipey tires. IMO

[@mattshobbies]

I say I wanna know what the best tire is. I'm not so much into competitions, but just wanna do amazing things out on the crawling trails.

[@georgem.6136]

HAHA tire tests are always fun.. I really want to try that climb!

[@nj2033]

I would have thought on that terrain the Trenchers would have won all day long. Wonder if it was the green compound from JConcepts... Those Ruptures seem to be the unicorn of crawler tyres!

[@thatsharshman.8544]

Curious where they placed by weight, did it match up as they got heavier?

[@jdsrcs8061]

I really like this climbing ramp. Pretty interesting comparison. From my experience you never know what is going to happen on the trail. One set kills it and climbs everything and the next day cannot climb anything. I know temperature is a factor but the difference can be huge some times. 👍👍👍

[@chaddenman692]

I would love you talk with you as I'm wanting to build your CRAWL wall... If you would be willing to share

[@nj2033]

I've managed to get a set of Ruptures in the 34 seconds they were in stock at Modelsport... They're like finding rocking horse poop

[@4t2100]

Which rims/wheels are used on those JConcepts Tusks for this test?

[@ExocagedRC]

jconcepts hazard wheels

[@4t2100]

@@ExocagedRC, thanks.. I'll be building a couple 70's f-series Ford pickup bodies and those hazards look like the old Vectors that used to be popular in the 70-80's... because sometimes its not about performance... but style instead. And I had been striking out finding that style on my own....

[@nate4024]

I could really use your expertise so many tires. I'm a big 24 scale guy. But almost done with my very first scratch build scx10ii which all of your videos helped me tremendously, Buy I just can't pull the trigger on what tires I'm leaning to proline predator, hyrax or trenches this is more of a scaler trail truck build please please help

[@gregkeezee5969]

Can we all bug the hell out of proline to make class 1 BFG CRAWLERS I mean it's one of there best tires I don't see why they wouldnt

[@marshallmotorssc]

I love all of your content but these are by far my favorites. Something about a good scientific comparison just hits the spot

[@DESOUSAB]

Different foams. Pretty much renders the comparison useless, unfortunately.

[@jbsrcs6273]

Trenchers and tusks should move on, imo.

[@andrewdecavia7553]

You should be using the same wheels and inserts. Just move the Trenchers and Tusk forward and do the following test with the same wheels and tires so the only variance is the tires themselves!

[@roberttruesdell6151]

What about Proline Hyrax and TSL TS and TSL XL?

[@RTmadnesstoo]

I've got nowhere locally to Compete so I don't really care about 'Legal'. But it doesn't matter if you're going to put them back in at the end.

[@allyoucando8486]

The only problem with Proline tires is the weather and temperature, as anyone say will be more fair test all have the same wheels and foam

[@2040RC]

Nice comparision video good job!! :)

[@dkmgm2011]

They placed by weight. The rim and foam should be equal.

[@gebiscrust284]

Seems to me the heavier the wheel/foam combo the better it does. Same foams per tire is the way to test these properly. Either way great video.

[@roberttruesdell6151]

Was wondering if you tested Ruptures vs HB Rovers?

[@NathanStorer-RC]

I think you should have a battle between legal tires, and a separate battle between non compliant tires. Once you find the winner of each batch, then battle the best of each.

[@furball5553]

Not only will I watch the whole video I'm going to watch it twice and my comment is BS use the same foam in every tire that would be a real test no matter it's all entertaining and informative 👍✌️

[@brianargo1659]

Put them on a timer that way u know every time u change it up. They all get the same amount of time at trying to see how far they make it up the that ramp. Because if one gets 2mins at trying and one gets 3mins. Who's to say the one that had 2mins wouldn't have made it past the 3min one if it it's self had 3mins also

[@SnarkyRC]

You should get some Boom Racing Aggressor tires. They are 🔥

[@brianmorrison2846]

The truck stopped at least 4 times on the Tusk. It would have crawled right up.

[@savagelife977]

It has to do with a lot more than just foams and wheels/tires ,, truck set up is very important to. So now put them all on your ecto or another crawler and repeat bet the results are different

[@MrPOTatoeHEAD702]

so many ways this test fails need to rethink your methods. total weight,foams,rims why is everything different on each set

[@jazzbass321]

Do you use weights on your wheels????

[@SpookyMietz]

Let the Trenchers and Tusks move foreward.

[@TheAurabell]

I think the ruptures should be allowed, imo