CRAZIEST ROVER EVER! The Story Of The Camel Car A 500HP Group 7 Monster!

[@ianturner6954]

Great work Sheldon thanks mate a great story of a long forgotten racer!! Oh those happy halcyon days of the 70’s with SDi’s and Dolly Sprinyts roaring round a BTCC track!!

[@classic_britain]

Glad you liked it going to make a video on the rally cars next!

[@MrSHAUNE55]

Excellent narration.

[@classic_britain]

Thanks took forever to record!

[@dantera22b]

Brilliant video! Learned about a car I never knew existed and then to find out your in Kernow too! Great stuff man, keep it up.

[@classic_britain]

Glad you liked the video please consider subscribing.

[@paulshewell2989]

"Proper Job,Pard" Team West ov Tamar

[@MartsGarage]

Great video Sheldon. I can appreciate the amount of work it took to put it together. All the best, Mart.

[@classic_britain]

Glad you liked it yes it took forever lol!

[@Mike-H_UK]

Excellent video. It was very well put together and the commentary was fantastic.

[@classic_britain]

Thanks it took forever to record all the naration!

[@PeteCswampy]

Thanks!

[@rodmacrae8867]

In 1971 I photographed the James Smith racing Rover at the Warwick Farm track in Sydney, Australia for an article in 'Wheels' magazine and I was driven around the track in it. The journalist was Bill Tuckey under the guise of his alter ego 'Romsey Quints' a proper English gentleman, complete with Bowler hat and a brolly, 'Romsey' was pictured objecting to a racing Rover and seen to be run over and gobbled up by the Rover.

[@WestCoastBritish]

My Post is missing: I rode in this red 3500 from Dads office in Brisbane, CA to Brooks Hall in SF for the Imported Car Show, I think 1970. It was at Dad office, Rover Motor Co/Leyland Motor Sales; we put a company plate on the the back and hauled A**. There was two cars one was 3.5L if i remember right the other 4.4 which dad (Richard Green, was Product Development Engineer & Service Manager, this would later be built DownUnder I wasn't 500bhp either! Lots of hype here, Awesome car. I have pics on my site of this car. I( nearly bought the red one on 2006-ish Divorce buggered that! West Coast British.

[@classic_britain]

Hello Michael really interesting coment glad you liked the video! What's your site would love to see the photos 😁

[@WestCoastBritish]

WHo has the CAMEL ROVER? Im racing MGB next weekend, Thunderhill, CA

[@davekennedy6315]

Superb video! Great narrating, editing and some stunning old n news photos and some great video too. Very, VERY good job and defo TV quality!

[@classic_britain]

Thank you so much!

[@davekennedy6315]

@classic_britain you whole heartedly deserve it! Such a good video and such an interesting, beautiful and equally menacing Rover! It must sound like the devil roaring at full chat haha! I'm envious!

[@classic_britain]

@@davekennedy6315 Thank you that's very kind yes it must have sounded amazing!

[@ianjones4071]

Great work, love the car,in 78 I was offered a Leyland p76 engine to put in a 64holden eh,my mechanic had created 192 red 6 engine for his cousin,s torana, so I had him build one for me,lot less hassle than putting a v8 in ,if I only knew what I know now back then. Keep up the great work mate 👍

[@classic_britain]

Really glad you liked the video more on the way!

[@chrislamacraft7380]

Video, history, photos specs and comontary are wonderful. Loved the Warwick Farm clip as I had my first Vintage race there in an Austin Seven Meteor under the tuteledge and forgivness of Geof Sykes. Sad to see all my old track haunts gone. Warwick farm Oran Park Katoomba and the one near home in the Hills district. Must be getting old but now regularly attend Historic Winton and Rob Roy Hillclimb 10 mins from home. Wonderful memories of a bygone era and thanks for your memories Chris L

[@roversteve8772]

Wow Sheldon a Fantastic Video Documentary on The Camel Rover thanks for all the time you took making it , very professional Well Done 👍🏼.

[@classic_britain]

Glad you enjoyed it I must make a video of the rally cars next as painfull as it's going to be lol!

[@roversteve8772]

​@classic_britain Love to see one on the rally cars as well Sheldon could be a Rover P6 video series eg. Police Cars, Movie/TV cars , Specials etc just an idea know must be take a lot of work to produce, we have an Education business & make short videos for KZbin they take a lot of work for very short videos. Thanks again you really have a very professional voice for doing documentaries very impressed 👍🏼.

[@2redrovers]

Nice work 👍 I wish there was more footage of the Bygone car, that spirited driving is one of my absolute favourite videos. Just out there having fun and still faster than the other cars 😂. Well done on the research and details. I noted quite a few things with regards to the suspension set-up that I hadn't seen or heard elsewhere. Also great to see Fraser's build in there 😁

[@3am650]

It was great to learn about these racing P6s, thank you for such an informative video.

[@EasyGrace]

What about Rover jet 1? First turbine jet in the world - 1950.

[@stephenhowell5611]

And the Rover BRM Le Mans car

[@peterhowells7309]

Greetings from Scotland! I once owned a P6 3500S (Manual gearbox) and it was such a smooth power beastie. It had Dunlop Denovo run flat tyres! (a real pain to get changed though!). Great motor for the long runs down South.

[@peterbalac1915]

Loved the enthusiasm of the narrator 😂 had a couple of 3.5 s rovers loved em old duffers car supposedly 😈 once you got used to the body roll you could really push the boundaries in them. Super comfortable, real eye opener this video 👏👏👏.

[@classic_britain]

hahaha as the narrator I am glad you liked it you are right I love the car LOL

[@J_S209]

At 6:31 Peter Brock having a peek!

[@mikeowen9667]

Thanks, that is a great video, really loved the Rovers I had.

[@chriscossie]

Well narrated Sheldon. Good job.

[@classic_britain]

Thanks

[@timbird5494]

Well done mate that was fantastic 👍

[@classic_britain]

Glad you like it first time for me making a video like this!

[@mistacoz]

@8:53 never knew Nish Kumar was a race driver back then ;-)

[@rogerduffy7744]

Was that Peter Brock at the 6.30 time stamp? (looking into engine bay)

[@classic_britain]

Yes I think it was!

[@andrewarmstrong7254]

Yep, that's definitely PGB.

[@hasseslaggmek3573]

A very well told story told on a unique car and its clones, truly fascinating. I have never heard of it before although i´m a petrol head pushing sixty, thank you very much for telling about it.

[@classic_britain]

Glad you liked it

[@filiannuzzi5871]

Well done. Really enjoyed this.

[@classic_britain]

Good!

[@marcbaur677]

Now i know, that the Hot Wheels Rover P6 isnt just a Fantasy Model, its a model of a real car. Thanks and greetings from Germany. 😃

[@toucan221]

What a Fantastic looking car, I always knew this car had great potential, this could've given Rover a New direction altogether. I don't know what your plan is for this car I wish all the best. what a fascinating car and history. 😃😃 Thank you

[@classic_britain]

I don't own the car I wish LOL

[@toucan221]

well it sounded like you said those words in there soomewhere???

[@classic_britain]

@@toucan221 Don't think so

[@johngibson3837]

Hey up this is the best video of yours I've seen so far really liked the passion even though i did miss dave

[@classic_britain]

Thanks for the really nice comment I am obsessed with the car lol

[@Marlin-proboscis16]

That was a real class video, informative and enjoyable!! Spot on 👍👍

[@classic_britain]

Glad you like it don't forget to subscribe 😁

[@Marlin-proboscis16]

@@classic_britain yeah I certainly will, I actually own a 1971 2000 P6 , so it's nice to watch a channel like yours 👍👍👍

[@WestCoastBritish]

There is s a toy of the red 3500S out i bought up a few last Xmas

[@minisareus]

Your best p6 video Sheldon

[@classic_britain]

haha thanks it was alot of work!

[@jameseastwood4984]

Great film, very much enjoyed it.

[@AndrewPhillipsqualityassurance]

I'm in San Diego. Is there anyone who builds these engines here in SOCAL? I have a 68 Rover P6 and I'm eager to get her on the road

[@classic_britain]

Best best is join the Rover P6 club facebook page

[@johnpoile1451]

Sporting Cars, from Feb 1984 has this this very Rover on the cover JXC 808. A feature called, Wild rare Rovers.

[@classic_britain]

Yes I must get a copy of it!

[@hanshoogendyk2203]

I saw this car race in new zealand , which will let you know my age, it was quite spectacular at the time, i used to have a picture of it in the middle of a corner with it waving 1 wheel in the air

[@classic_britain]

Oh wow that must have been amazing I assume that was pre Holden engine when it was a very fast car indeed!

[@piglos]

I remember seeing Jim Clark in this at Sandown, Victoria in the early '70s when I was 10-11yo

[@andymorrow55]

I remember seeing the Alec Poole owned version in Ireland back in the day in red with the white roof ala British Leyland works colours, it was a fabulous sight and sound to behold.

[@pnegeoff5385]

Great stuff 👍

[@classic_britain]

Glad you liked it!

[@nzmcdonagh]

Great work!!

[@classic_britain]

Thanks!

[@mojosabien]

Question. Apart from the Bygone Autos P6, how are any of these cars really Rovers?

[@DoubleDsinthedrivingseat]

Very interesting video. I'm surprised that a number of the cars featured kept the De Dion back axle.

[@classic_britain]

Oh yes the De Dion is not a bad system.

[@heyrodders]

yes, nice narration, with no crappy way over dramatic "music".

[@logohigh1]

Had P6 V8 in 1988 , got for nothing - sold it for 50 quid to some blokes collecting red telephone boxes

[@Sidchasingclassiccars]

Rovers were always highly capable cars but were saddled with a stuffy fuddy duddy image. The exception to that is shown in this video. What a beast!

[@rickydub6950]

Cracking vid man 👌

[@classic_britain]

Glad you liked it.

[@alanolden.7575]

Brilliant informative video great to watch

[@classic_britain]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Alan-x2x3h]

Great video fascinating love rovers

[@classic_britain]

Don't forget to subscribe =)

[@Alan-x2x3h]

@@classic_britain Been subscribed yes ago loyal viewer 😜

[@michaelgautreaux3168]

Excellent vid. Many thanx 👍👍

[@classic_britain]

@@michaelgautreaux3168 Glad you enjoyed it

[@stevebass-rees4750]

I’m an Australian, we wrecked a absolutely unique vehicle.

[@classic_britain]

Yes the car was really alot better with the P76 engine but it was fast with the Holden engine but C and C autos ruined the chances of it being fast with that lump

[@matthewfranzese1125]

Fantastic 🎉

[@classic_britain]

Happy you enjoyed it!

[@Nickkemp1664]

Just brilliant thank you 👍

[@classic_britain]

Happy you liked it please consider subscribing

[@Mercmad]

12:16 is that a Leyland p76 V8 engine ? I ask because i have a Leyland P76 engine with the same single plane intake , but mine has a Carter AVS carb, the ancestor of the Edelbrock carb. The intake was cast in Australia and to date,it's the only one I had ever seen.

[@classic_britain]

Yes a very rare verstion of it! You should post on the Rover V8 Engine Appreciation on Facebook they would know!

[@ukgun1]

Very interesting thank you

[@WestCoastBritish]

Graham Hill raced it at an endurance race, lead many many hours till prop-shaft vibration, so they withdrew car (No spares). it was that fast!

[@aussiechique798]

I remember seeing this at the Sydney Show on the BLMA stand

[@ickisdogg3779]

I remember that yellow Rover from the early 70's down at the farm race track and at Oran park, stood out been bright yellow, ran in sports sedan racing when I saw it.

[@classic_britain]

Oh wow that must have been awsome did you take any photos?

[@ickisdogg3779]

@@classic_britain sorry didn't own a camera then was only a young teen

[@davidjamesgillespie4002]

Yeah I watched the car at surface paradise international race way, John GOSS had a memorable day against the rover ,in his genuine xa two door fire breathing beast it's engine sitting back on the cross member good old school injection system keept the rover honest. I can still hear them.😢😢

[@classic_britain]

@@davidjamesgillespie4002 Hahaha must have been amzing to see it and of course here it! Please consider subscribing!

[@davidjamesgillespie4002]

@@classic_britain On those days photos of the competitors cars you could purchase, maybe a long shot, might have some joy in the photos and names of the people that follow the meetings, car clubs are usfull with older members may have known photographers, just maybe.

[@solebrother4533]

Top video,enjoyed that❤

[@IanRankin-y3q]

I saw this car in R&T in the old Ampersand column toward the back half of the magazine. I assumed for years it was BRG and not Red but caught up with some details of it a half dozen years ago. BTW at 6:35 that's not remotely a PB6 front suspension, so it either had the race car spindles fitted then or prior.. the implication until that image was it was using the unique PB6 front end

[@classic_britain]

I said in the video the front suspention was replaced with lola F500 suspention.

[@IanRankin-y3q]

@@classic_britain Nope you said coil overs were fitted. Not that the suspension was switched out.

[@IanRankin-y3q]

12:32 that is not MacPherson strut, either. Springs are in yellow, stock location. Stock reward mounted control arm.

[@classic_britain]

@@IanRankin-y3q Well that's pretty obvious since there is a picture on screen.

[@jamesarcher5320]

Living in Barbados back in the early 70s there was a place brought into the island to race at the new race circuit. Bushey Park. I do believe Graham Hill drove it,not 100%sure. It was fast!!!!!!

[@markholroyde9412]

Halifax UK registered, where I live, my Dad had one for a Co car in the 70s...they never made a "B" reg P6, dodgey I.D. B is 1964

[@element271]

The traco engine has the same deck height as a Buick and rover, they just stroked them, presumably with Buick 300 cranks.

[@Threepointstar]

Had a 3500s for a year or so here in the States. What a weird car.

[@stephenscholes4758]

Anything that contains newer technology than 1941 is 'weird' to an American

[@tahustvedt]

The negine bay in these is enormous so fitting a big engine probably wasn't difficult. There's a V8 P6 for sale locally.

[@classic_britain]

Not as big as you might thing the Rover V8 is a tight fit so the inner wings and the bulkhead had to be modified to make the big Holden fit.

[@Fester_]

I enjoyed that, cheers. Good work.

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420]

Your enunciation and vocabulary is terrific. Can you work on the Th-fronting which grinds a little please?

[@classic_britain]

Yeah that's the Dyslexica I am afraid!

[@jameseastwood4984]

I have assembled a history of Bill Shaw from his early days racing F3 500's in 1958, through this car and on to 1978 with the founding of Tom Walkingshaw Racing. If anyone has any Bill Shaw history or pictures they can share, that would be incredible, thank you.

[@Warren-g8t]

I find it funny and odd that people would swap out the Rover engine for a Holden 5 litre as they are infact the exact same engine only the Rover is cast in much lighter alloy. Anything that can be done to the Holden engine, the same can be done o the Rover, admittedly at much higher cost and more customised parts fo the Rover version.

[@classic_britain]

I think at that time it was much simpler to get big power out of a Holden engine it's more then likley in it's later days the Holden engine was making well over 500HP and it's only in the last 20 years or so that the Rover engines have been abel to make 100HP per LT NA and it's a very tall tast!

[@edwardburek1717]

And to think that we had to wait until 1987 for a car in Camel colours to go faster than that clearly demented P6, courtesy of Ayrton Senna's Lotus Honda 97T, aka The Big Banana.

[@scopex2749]

I have always been a Rover fans since I first saw a Rover 100 in our neighbours drive! Then in the Forces on VIP duty Princess Margaret turns up in a SUPERB black P5B! I desperately sought a P5 coupe but never managed to afford one. Then later I came across the P6 V8 MMMMM. Again never managed to buy one. So later I have A love affair with the OUTSTANDING SD1 V8 and the Vitesses. I had a total of 7 V8's one was a V8S ex cop went like a rocket lastly an old Vitesse. I drove it so much the car fell apart so I kept the engine with the intention of building a DAX COBRA............BUT ..............sadly marriage ended my dreams................16 years later she went as well ☺🤣😂 I could rebuild those old V8's BLINDFOLDED. I suppose you know they were developed from a Buick engine? Some people moan about the old Rover V8 .......so WHY is it the most USED engine in many cars......(TR8, MGV8, TVR, Range/Land Rover etc etc). We even had military vehicled with them in SUPERB. One was called the Land Rover fwd control 1 tonner. We even had a standard Land Rover series 2 tilt in the Falklands that we shoe horned a V8 into to deal with the mud! It had rear wheels WELDED together making it look like a dually! The mud was a bit serious out there😂 GREAT vid thanks So sad the brand is long gone IMAGINE what they would be buildign today with something like an AMG 5.3 under the bonnet😮😵🥴

[@stevencuenca1980]

A big paw alloy V8 would be a worthy engine for this legend..

[@moonface978]

I want that p5 model 😍

[@jamesarcher5320]

I think Alec Poole drove it in Barbados. Not Graham Hill as I said earlier.

[@nigelcarren]

I would not have used the term upper-class, I would have gone with 'painfully middle class'. 😉👍🇬🇧 Interesting video, I have never seen this 'so ugly it's wonderful' car before.

[@classic_britain]

Hahah yes quite! Oh yeah she's a brute not a model LOL!

[@nigelcarren]

@@classic_britain You passed the test... Consider me subscribed! 😂👍🇬🇧

[@classic_britain]

@@nigelcarren Hahah thanks!

[@dinger40]

Min 3.09. "Stock 4 cylinder gear box" how does that work then? 😉

[@classic_britain]

@@dinger40 Not very well 😂😂😂 This was years before the LT77 was made hence why it kept blowing up!

[@cwshtygriff13]

At least they kept the badge

[@MrT01582]

Do a search for Steve Green mk1 cortina

[@classic_britain]

I know the car well it has a 6.0 Wildcat engine!

[@odl21]

I wouldn’t mind owning one of these P6 race cars.

[@sefikempowermentcoachvilla7843]

Grt commentary

[@classic_britain]

Glad you liked it!

[@Phil-ww1dv]

Good fun. Please have a few pints of bitter in a thin glass on me. Cheers!

[@garyburchgb]

Work has stopped on the car. Sounds like he had the hump with it.

[@patrickvansimaeys7604]

Super blue finger

[@michaeltaylor8835]

500hp no brakes

[@classic_britain]

hahah brakes are for the weak!

[@chrisb8075]

Since when did a Toledo have a 16valve engine 🤔

[@classic_britain]

Probably a mistake in James Taylors book

[@gnosticbrian3980]

Rover BRM Le Mans car?

[@Thermopylae2024]

The older i get the more beautiful they become 🙂

[@marklittler784]

Very good considering we didn't even see your lips move.😅

[@stigdriver]

How about a mention of the rover works rally cars that came before the race cars? or maybe you don't know much about that 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@classic_britain]

There rally cars not race cars that's another video and I do know about them thanks..

[@PeterCox-k1w]

Something aspirational for u😂

[@classic_britain]

Yes it's my dream car

[@menotyou5065]

Wrong picture at 1.51 - that's a Mini Marcos

[@classic_britain]

That's the only photo I could find of that driver in a car

[@matthewmoore5698]

I had a v8 did people were falling over themselves to buy it (early 2000s )

[@jimblakey1530]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@andrewmatyear5212]

Over engineered 😅😅😅

[@marklittler784]

Can't advertise cigs anymore !

[@paul8161]

Everyone knows

[@glenjones6980]

It's three not free.

[@classic_britain]

🙄🙄

[@rob8761]

So the original car is now a replica because it has a donar chassis

[@classic_britain]

No not really 80% of it is original including the space frame suspention pannels ect ect. 95% of old race cars have been re shelled and most of the owners never admit this fact.

[@jameseastwood4984]

​@@classic_britain Yes agreed. But in any case the identity of a car legally follows it's registration, regardless of what's replaced.

[@user-pf3dz7gi4r1]

Had 1 Rover and never again. What an unreliable heap of crap.

[@classic_britain]

What model was it?

[@user-pf3dz7gi4r1]

@@classic_britain rover sdi 3500. Had a triumph stag last model made 1977 wasn't much better. Replaced engine 307 Chevy, turbo 400 gearbox, and live diff. The chassis twisted couldn't shut left door.

[@classic_britain]

@@user-pf3dz7gi4r1 Yes the SD1 is not good lol