FSU leaving ACC on August 15th because Florida State Twitter Man is expert on Contract Law

[@nopefan6463]

I watch this guy regularly he's is really good about the SEC. He doesn't know a f****** thing about the ACC and what's going to happen I promise you that

[@cinnaminson0653]

He knows that the ACC sucks that's enough.

[@jamesb0255]

August 15th is the deadline for any ACC school to announce whether they are staying or leaving the conference. Every year this is the deadline.

[@luckylucas8596]

That makes sense, but if FSU was really going to leave, why would they wait until the last possible minute to say it?

[@projectdynasty7536]

@@luckylucas8596 making deals with the pressure of the deadline.

[@jamesb0255]

@@luckylucas8596 That's why I posted elsewhere I do not believe anything is going to happen before the August 15th deadline. If anything they will wait till after the deadline and then announce a two-year plan to leave.

[@volbound1700]

@@luckylucas8596 it would be dumb but they could announce intention to leave when GOR expires in 2033. Not sure why they would do that.

[@thomassaxon4005]

Hey FSU man; tomorrow is the deadline. Bet you a thousand ain’t nobody leaving the ACC tomorrow.

[@Leroy-c8i]

300 million dollar buyout with installments over 10 years, with SEC BIG10 money they can afford it

[@crazyunclelou]

300 mill is a made up number.

[@nickdtv9401]

Rip Gold & Blue Dude…He woulda sorted this all out.

[@495JMK]

amen

[@ScottStrunk641]

I agree he will be missed 😢😢

[@bubbafinch07]

Well articulated. Great video.

[@BigKountry2145]

Come on FSU. Come to the SEC. GET YOU SOME!!!!!!

[@Teamques]

Uncle Lou’s sarcasm and humor alone is worth a subscribe never mind the football talk 😂😂

[@michaelhart6318]

Can't argue with that!

[@jerrylee8261]

I agree. He has some awesome videos a lot of the time. FSU must see the light at the end of the tunnel or they wouldn't be so mouthy about leaving. Hope Clemson and FSU join the SEC.

[@joesmith1815]

Crazy to see you wearing that hat lol. I played for that club growing up.

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

The best way to leave the ACC is to get 8 teams to agree to end the ACC…then the GOR won’t exist…atleast thats how I have understood it.

[@tjsutphin9855]

If it’s on Twitter, you know it’s true

[@tippy6152]

It’s X now lol.

[@anthonytitone]

@@tippy6152they also didn’t tweet it they posted it lol

[@roris5882]

NO LIES DETECTED -Fact Checkers

[@fila7832]

Lol

[@kentuckyfried9499]

​@@tippy6152X gon give it to ya

[@bowdenfannole]

What you’re not getting is there is reporting that when FSU was approached by Swofford and ACC representatives about their contract they were given false information or were withheld information.

[@css31069]

I heard it was Financials to scare FSU into staying so that could be a real thing. 🤷‍♂️

[@trentl4395]

Cope

[@rhetthayes5981]

​@@trentl4395no that is very illegal to do if it's true, which any legal fuckup will pretty much bury the ACC, idk what's true or not I just know that Florida state is not going to stay in the acc whether that's a few years down the road or ten the acc is going to eventually be dead just like the pac is about to be

[@jansonroberts2616]

That was fine in February. Had everyone’s sympathy. But then Alford came out and said it was all good and FSU was proud and happy to be in the ACC. Now wishy washy again? Come on. Make a decision and stick to it.

[@RichardFederinko]

Thanks out to Eric B too.

[@LegoHeadGrady]

Is UF a doormat in the SEC ? FSU is 25 - 22 vs UF since 1976….UGA’s record vs UF during that same time is 19-28…

[@wireroom7939]

Nah grady... dont be putting GA n anything u talking bout..lol we r not the same 😎🏆🏆🏈🍺

[@rhetthayes5981]

​@@wireroom7939Florida state has had a football program a lot less of a time than Georgia why is it their overall achievements are the same/ Florida state ahead by a touch overall? Name one player Georgia has in the same ballpark as deion sanders or derrick Brookes or charlie ward, peter warrick, warrick Dunn, only one I can think of is Herschel walker but he's about it,

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@rhetthayes5981Georgia owns the head to head for both those Florida schools. Everything else is just angst on your part and funny on mine.

[@RichardSmithloves]

You're one of my favorite scientists LEWWWWWWWW!

[@brett8078]

Actually I believe FSU was the ONLY school against the tv contract

[@tylermedley3596]

If the Big 10 gets Washington, Oregon , Clemson and FSU the Big 10 will be the best conference in football

[@jamescampbell9533]

Maybe Disney is going to give the a couple of hundred million to buy their grant of rights.

[@michaelabercrombie5744]

100% right! FSU is an AVERAGE ACC team that will get SMOKED in the SEC!

[@NoleNerdZA01]

Look I know you have fallen into the SEC bias that every team there is just an absolute power house just by being in the SEC. But outside of Georgia (who is blowing out every team as of late) and maybe Alabama, who in the SEC is definitively better than FSU?

[@godeacs358]

As a wake fan…. If Florida State can’t beat us, how the heck are they going to beat 2/3rds of the SEC?

[@rickwiley6482]

They did not "willingly" sign. They were THE hold-out, and John Swofford had to come to Tally to persuade them to agree.

[@paulwhitley5515]

Exactly! Swafford and son cooked the books and I can’t wait to see this go to court.

[@davesteller6301]

This is all because of Colorado leaving the PAC 12. Every single time some school changes confrence, the idea of FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC emerges.

[@NoleJay]

Exactly lol we ain’t going nowhere

[@Astate2024]

We own the acc for years until coaching changes and we have a better record against sec teams get more viewers for games than all sec teams except Alabama so wym y'all just be talking

[@jansonroberts2616]

Georgia owns the head to head so I’m ignoring everything you just said. But I do wish Georgia and FSU played each other more, if they had, maybe FSU wouldn’t be looking for a door.

[@Astate2024]

@@jansonroberts2616 dude Georgia just started winning no history outside of Hershel walker it was 40 years before you all win anything

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@Astate2024yet we own the head to head matchup. Do better.

[@Astate2024]

@@jansonroberts2616 that does mean anything get more history to compete with fsu we beat y'all this year cfp

[@Field_Marshall]

UGA sucked for a very long time up until the back to back titles. UGA been choking on a bone for the last 40 years ever since Herschel Walker declares for USFL. UGA has zero history, except for the death of UGA

[@antonyrogers265]

Well, the Board of Trustees at FSU said today that the GoR will not be an issue. This rant isn't going to age well I don't think.

[@projectdynasty7536]

they get out of the GoR with 8 teams want to leave. majority

[@StreakingTiger]

Lou, this is possibly one of your best videos. Very informative. Thanks.

[@CoachJAJones]

It's worse, the Grant of Rights is actually through 2036

[@CCHSMusicDepartment]

Lou, I have no idea if any of the rumors are true, however the April 15th date is the last date any ACC schools and declare they’re leaving and be out for 2024.

[@richardoneal1055]

Just as long as the Georgia - Missouri rivalry isn't in jeopardy, I don't care what the ACC does.

[@rhetthayes5981]

Crazy to think how good of a program Missouri used to have even when they started in the SEC

[@MrTrevinhowell]

Yo Lou you see the last Andy staples video? Fsu leaving for sure might not be as soon as everyone thinks but it's 100 percent sooner or later. They have a handle on the Grant of rights and that's the least of there worries!

[@ronlowney4700]

Just 1 More Vote is Needed and the ACC Doesn't Exist! 🔥🏚 And, I Have Heard They Now Have That 8th Vote! 👨‍⚖

[@nickbeef4824]

So if there is a buyout then there is a legal bind.

[@i81b4i8u]

Just read an article where fsu is negotiating a 300 million buyout to be able to break the grant of rights and leave the acc

[@crazyunclelou]

Lmao

[@jansonroberts2616]

OU and Texas tried that payment system when they first announced and the big12 laughed them out of the room. Big 12 said, yeah you can make payments but you in here until the last payment clears. ACC will do the same. It’s not that they don’t trust FSU or Clemson, but they’re not trusting anyone with that amount of money owed . That ACC commish has a saying, In God we trust, all others are staying and paying cash!

[@jeffzieminick8368]

Door mat sec look up our record vs the sec

[@meatthenole5601]

I doubt it will be this year. Also, none of the people who signed that are still at FSU.

[@ajseabaugh58]

Who is down worse on the buyout front? FSU with the ACC? A&M with Jimbo? Or Mich state with Mel Tucker?

[@tylermedley3596]

If the conference dissolved then what?

[@jodylane9889]

Lol bro theres a lot more to the situation and yes there's ways FSU and Clemson can leave easily . FSUs Board of Trustees scheduled a random meeting for today that wasn't originally scheduled, the ACC then also scheduled a meeting with the PAC 12, does that mean FSU is leaving, I have no idea but kinds odd both were scheduled out of thin air and Aug 15th is the deadline to announce if a team is leaving or staying in the ACC, There's basically 2 huge TV stations at play here, ESPN and Fox and ESPN has the ACC under media lockdown, I'll explain why that could help FSU leave the ACC without really worrying about the GOR, the reason ur seeing some say by Aug 15th is because any ACC school has until that day to announce that they're leaving the conference in order to be eligible to play in a different conference in 2024, if a school doesn't announce by that day then they are automatically contracted to remain in the conference thru 2024 and can't leave til 2025. FSU gets 42 mill per year from the ACC and Big 10 schools pay out 80 mill and SEC schools pay out 72 mill, even if FSU paid ACC/ESPN 30 mill per year for 10 years and if they went to the Big 10 then they're still making 50 mill a year, that's 8 mill per year more than if they stayed in the ACC, here's how they could possibly get out without worrying about the GOR and only pay 120 mill ACC exit fee, ESPN even owns the ACC Network, guess who also has the SEC locked under media contract, yep ESPN. If ESPN thinks they could draw bigger money by FSU and Clemson being in the SEC then they may allow it to happen without penalizing the ACC and may even allow the ACCs GOR to stay the same because they got such a good deal to begin with and then the other 12 remaining schools would get more money instead of splitting it 14 ways so everyone wins, the ACC still gets their full GOR from ESPN and ESPN makes more money because of a lot better matchups with FSU and Clemson being in the SEC. ur hearing the 300 mill buyout is if FSU goes to the Big 10 because that includes FOX and the GOR. Word is though that FSU and Clemson are leaving for the Big 10 so they may have agreed behind close doors on the 300 mill buyout but it could also be FSU trying to get SECs attention but either way I think there's some fire this time with the smoke because of the random scheduled Board of Trustees meeting and then the random scheduled ACC meeting with the PAC 12, if the ACC already knows that FSU and Clemson and leaving then they're trying to form a conference together with the PAC 12 to try and stay a little relevant but honestly it's not gonna matter if they combine conferences because all the elite teams will be gone and they still wouldn't be able to compete with the Big 10 or SEC

[@Lsmomo55]

Lou, found this in an article but i dont know if we can take it as face value....FSU's Board acted on the bad-faith representations of the ACC. Swofford and Jordan knew the revenue projections were unrealistic yet assured the Board profits from a conference network would put the Seminoles on par with their SEC peers. That's what lawyers call "intentional fraud." Swofford, in his capacity as the commissioner of the ACC, intentionally misrepresented revenue projections with the intent to deceive the Board of Trustees into signing the grant of rights.

[@jamesb0255]

Lou, if we beat LSU this year, again and finish the season the way you are predicting what makes you think we're going to be a doormat in the SEC. Do you think we would have been a doormat in the '90s? Don't embarrass yourself with the answer. If we have the kind of season you are predicting and maybe even the season I feel like we're going to have coupled with our now top 5 recruiting class FSU has every chance of regaining our previous dominance. Has a program we would be right up there with Georgia, Alabama, obviously LSU, and most certainly the rest of the SEC.

[@jamesb0255]

@@arturoaltamirano7667 20 years!? We won a national championship in 2013. We went undefeated in 2014 and made the first playoff. 10-3 in 2015 and 16. 20 years?!?! Get that shit out of here.

[@fsugnome]

Ass for 20 years. Heisman and Natty would disagree

[@Msseminole]

We won the natty in 2013! We have won 3! We had 14 straight years ranked at number 5 or better in the final rankings. FSU is a blue blood and is back to where they belong.

[@ronelite582]

Realistically, FSU would do well in the SEC. FSU in the BIG, now that’s where things wouldn’t go so well for them. They can’t expand their recruiting footprint in the BIG ( less talent than SEC region) and not only will they fight off Mega SEC programs from recruiting Florida, they now have to compete with Ohio St, Michigan, and Penn St from impeding in their grounds as well. As a Duke fan, would be funny watching those toolbags playing Rutgers or Nebraska in November while only acquiring less than 2 million views 😅

[@JoshJorg44]

Oh wow they're leaving the ACC crazy where are they going

[@ecc5119]

IMO , FSU needs Cardi B to throw the microphone at the TV deal .

[@shmoejr8252]

After watching your video, the other day , it's starting to come out. Uncle Lou get FSU in the SEC in August 15th asap. Get either Clemson or Miami or Geo tech. I know you have some pulls to get teams in the SEC.

[@jamesb0255]

I'm not on Twitter so I am not influenced by what the Twitter machine is saying, or x whatever the hell it's called now. But I do not agree anything's going to happen before the 15th however being a long time booster and contributor to the program I have talked to some people who only have opinions and hearsay but, there is a lot of planning and action that is going on behind the scenes right now. I am very confident we will not be locked in to this agreement until 2034. In actuality I feel confident we will be out of the ACC, the GOR, and into a new conference within the next 3-5 years. Quite possibly sooner.

[@feet765102]

Doormat??? To who??.if we join either conference tomorrow we would be top 5.Other than bama or Georgia,what sec school have decidedly more talent than FSU??? Texas?? Nope!choklahoma???? Nope! LsWho? Nope!

[@RJ-fe9pu]

I heard it was the 13th and that 180 mil could be gor thus making 300 mil with 120 buyout

[@NoleNerdZA01]

Interesting take- just wondering what makes you think FSU is a doormat to half the teams in the SEC or BIG10? FSU went 2-0 against SEC teams last year (3-0 if you count OU) one of which won the SEC west. I could see the argument of FSU being behind Georgia, but outside of them FSU can play with anyone else in the SEC and any team in the BIG10.

[@volbound1700]

I think he is going off seasons before last year but it was a dumb take. He has a lot of them when it comes to his bias like saying Florida, Oklahoma, and Tennessee won't win another National Title in next 40 years. I will say that he is spot on about the GOR talk.

[@chanthetiger7193]

People disrespect Clemson and FSU just because of a conference, it’s sad

[@wireroom7939]

Doormat ZACHARY.. vandy will beat ya'll fr fr #back2backCHAMPS #🏆🏆🏈🍺😎

[@NoleNerdZA01]

@@wireroom7939LOL - oh yeah that powerhouse over there huh? Perhaps that would in baseball

[@wesleygary6651]

Shiiiiiiiiitttttttt. First year head coach in the first game of his SEC career (LSU) doesn't warrant this false belief that FSU can play with the big boys. They had their chance to join the conference in 1992 and turned it down, ironically when the SEC wasn't dominating the sport like they are now. You joined the ACC. And you dominated. In the ACC. It's like banging fat girls. Anyone can do it. FSU can't even beat Clemson anymore. Don't know what metric you are using other than one year with down programs counting as wins against the SEC. Remember--Bama, Tennessee, UGA, ....talk to me after you schedule them every year.

[@DimeMindGang]

The trickle down effect is real. Ever since Texas & Oklahoma, now everyone else wants to move conferences

[@stevenbland2736]

August 15 is the deadline for the ACC to accept the 2024 and future scheduling. If they don't sign, they have no schedule for 2024, sooner or later they will not sign forcing the ACC to do something and when multiple schools do the same the grant of rights is in real jeopardy for the ACC.

[@MarkBosler850]

I think there are more people that understand what you are saying than you think. Entities that cover the program have done a great job really explaining the ins and outs of what's happening. That being said there is legitimate smoke here as FSU has to do something prior to Aug 15th or be stuck in the ACC for a minimum of two more years. I fully expect some kind of exit news on or before Aug 15th.

[@tannerjones6564]

The buyout is too much, they aren't going anywhere

[@kylepapic666]

u worded that clearly, they think if they can get out so easy but its not that easy

[@brett8078]

FSU might as well take their chances because it isn't going to get any better

[@bwedd3772]

There is a board of trustees meeting on august 15th. Apparently there gonna ask for booster money or try and start a fund or some shit. Some people are saying it’s setting up for the buyout. Its more than likely about money for the new football facility or something like that lol

[@dylenalfaro4114]

Morale of the story is never sign a deal that commits your rights for over a decade in a market that so volatile and constantly changing. This isn’t a mortgage. I’d say 3-5 year TV deals should be good. Because if you plan on staying at a conference for a long time, TV revenue changes.

[@PhoenixRising82672]

The ACC will merge with The SEC. SEC will take over everything

[@Mike-sp7zv]

Just like the Pac12 merged with the B10

[@etg2231]

How many times has this have to be explained? Thanks Lou.

[@TheClardydawg]

FSU would be the third best team in the SEC

[@ijustwanttonap]

Much of this makes sense but a few things you are off on. This is not suddenly happening since the CU news. It has been around for a few years. It was actually bigger news last year but I guess you didn't hear about it. The GOR is rock solid apparently. They either pay the exit fee and the GOR release or they find another way. Actual informed estimates put that combined number at probably over 500 million but there could be some negotiation in that number. It doesn't matter though. It will still be too much. The other 2 options are to challenge the GOR in court (who knows on what grounds) or, and maybe more likely, make moves to have the conference dissolved. There apparently is wording in the contract for this scenario. They would need 8 teams to leave and the ACC would dissolve. Finding 8 teams willing to leave and pay the 120 million exit fee is easy. They have the teams to do it. The problem then becomes having a spot for those 8 teams to land. You can likely find 4 teams spots in the SEC or Big10. The other 4 become a problem. The Big 12 would likely be interested in a few (especially the schools with good bball programs) but that number being 4 is unlikely. This info doesn't come from a random twitter account or a youtube page putting out clickbait, it comes from FSU's and Clemson's ADs. You can actually watch the press conferences if you feel so inclined and want to know where it really stems from. I trust the AD's more than any youtuber (not meaning you, the others pushing this scenario). With that being said, it is going to happen. The timeline of next year just makes no sense unless the people in power are holdong some things back.

[@bryantjames6038]

I know ACC schools have hired contract lawyers to see about getting out of the GOR. I think if Florida St leaves they go to the big ten

[@BlimpCityFeeder]

Good 411 about FSU & Grant of Rights to ACC.

[@justinmartin9157]

Interesting!

[@RR-1977]

WHERE MY CHECK WOUUUU!

[@css31069]

What it's going to take is for the ACC to have made a legal mistake. Which they may have done in reporting false Financials to reign in the talks by FSU and Clemson to leave. This will be fun if that turns out to be the case.

[@redsilverado76]

Ya know, I actually get quite a bit of my college football news from Lou. I would rather watch a fellow UGA fan talk a bunch of crap and call out the five-star dummies from UF and Ohio St. than listen to the stiffs on ESPN.

[@jeffzieminick8368]

Oh I get it he is another van wagon ga fan he only been paying attention to cfb in the last 5 years

[@PhillupOndz-bh7yd]

Twitter? Is that something similar to X? 😂

[@jamesb0255]

😂😂😂 okay. So what makes you the expert on the GOR? You come on here criticizing all these FSU fans on Twitter for thinking they know everything Well I'm curious as to what makes you the expert Lou? Bubba I can guarantee you there are things going on behind the scenes You have no clue about. Nobody does except for the people involved. You admitted that you were no lawyer either and then turned around and criticized someone for offering lawyerly advice!😂😂😂 I still think you're funny as hell and I love the show!

[@Msseminole]

You are wrong about this Lou

[@jamesb0255]

@@BillyColeII-dr6dk talks with other ADs, Big 10 execs, FSU lawyers and our Board of Regents, SEC execs, I guarantee you Mike Alford is working and strategizing from morning to night to get FSU out of the ACC. Also, y'all need to keep in mind this was all done by the previous regime, Swafford and his Carolina cronies and there is a very good possibility of fraud going on. So I would bet you, Lou, and anybody else, lots of money that your worst nightmare (FSU joining the SEC) will come to fruition within the next five years.

[@voiceofreason2674]

Leaving for the Big Ten would tank their program and be cowardly. Leaving for the SEC might be good for them but it would be cowardly. Tough it out in the ACC

[@jeffersongrimes1082]

August 15th Don't Tell Anybody 🤣🤣🤣

[@savagecabbage138]

I understand the ego attached to when people take your word on whats going to happen in the future, me personally id like to consider myself some kind of contract expert as well. you have to go for something outrageous, and youre the only one to see it coming. that being said, notre dame to the pac 9, heard it here first

[@crazyunclelou]

Lol

[@jansonroberts2616]

I’m thinking more like when FSU and Clemson go to the B1G, that’s when Miami, ND and UNC jump over to the SEC. That’ll stain some shorts. Go Dawgs!!

[@JDNOLE13]

All they need is 7 teams to leave the ACC to get out of the GOR. Let’s say the rumors are true and Florida State and Clemson go to the Big Ten in 2024. Well now you’re down to five teams. The 30 million for 10 years deal sounds stupid but do you honestly think the ACC will still be here in 10 years with Clemson and Florida State leaving. I think all the other teams will see the writing on the wall and look for exit plans. Once seven teams leave that $30 million a year payment goes away. I get your outlook, but what do you expect Florida State and Clemson to do….sit back and fall behind due to financial disparity? Yes, they signed that deal and it was a good one at the time.

[@ronlowney4700]

🔥 When Your Wife Tells You To Shape Up or She is Going to Leave You, Take Note (Pay Attention and Take It Seriously)! 😱

[@mattlippiatt1273]

The 300million is basicly buying out the gor contract. 30million per year is in line with how much they recieve each year anyways. The deal with big10 is valued at over 100million per year meaning the school would keep 70million per year vs only getting 32 from the acc. The math adds up.

[@markswan2582]

There is no buying out of the GOR. The ACC owns FSU’s media rights until 2034.

[@mattlippiatt1273]

@markswan2582 read the grant of rights again... it is specific to the acc espn contract. It is basicly says that the school is responsible for keeping their end of the espn contract. The grant of rights is not giving up a team's ability to get out. Or giving up their ability to get money from another conference tv deal. It is specifically that they will pay the conference for the money the conference might loose if espn renegotes the contract lower. It is not giving away all media rights...it is specific to the contract espn has with the acc.

[@mattlippiatt1273]

The grant of rights can be challenged in court by existing acc bylaws which states exit fee to leave conference. Along with that if a school finds anyway that espn or the acc misrepresented it's contract on false valuations like money from acc network etc. Then the gor which is specific to that espn agreement is void... all a school has to show is that the acc or espn or both misrepresented the income that would be generated. The gor can be broken by a good faith violation on part of espn and or the acc.

[@markswan2582]

@@mattlippiatt1273 per the contract, they surrender media rights to all home games for the duration of the agreement, (2036, not 2034 as erroneously stated by me previously). So, they could get revenue from other conferences for away games. Don’t know what the practicality of that is, but I would think unlikely since it hasn’t been attempted as of yet.

[@joelhoward8211]

I wonder why Vanderbilt doesn't leave the SEC.

[@luckylucas8596]

Because they make more money with the SEC than they would be moving to any other conference. Even New Mexico State who wins 1 game a year would take the SEC’s money to lose every conference game.

[@johngarnergarner6724]

So Lou, let's go back a couple months ago when seven ACC schools publicly acknowledged that they were discussing how they might be able to circumvent the ACC grant of rights and depart the conference. And then, if you'll recall, these same schools met with the commissioner and after the meeting the departure talk died down and everyone was making nice. In fact, FSU's athletic director came out and made a statement that they were very happy to be a member of the ACC. This was just a couple months ago. Then the commissioner comes out and says that the conference is looking at doing something for their top revenue schools. So you heard nothing else from Clemson, FSU, UNC, Miami and others. And since then you have heard not one word from any of these schools about leaving the conference---at least not from anyone who actually makes decisions at these schools. All of this is coming from trolls who have no information about any of this. So, as a fan,until I see some official from one of these august institutions say that our board of trustees has devoted to depart the ACC, I'm just not going to believe it. One of the things you mentioned ----which makes perfect sense----is that all this talk was triggered as soon as Colorado announced that they were leaving the PAC 12. Funny how that works. None of what I said means that all these schools are satisfied with what they're getting paid. They're not. But it seems that they're pretty much stuck. ESPN certainly isn't going to re-visit the ACC's deal. Hell, they're broke. They've fired half their employees to save money. They are losing subscribers by the thousands. So, at the end of the day I'd be surprised if anyone leaves the ACC. Not saying it can't happen. Sure it could, but I'd be surprised

[@jansonroberts2616]

ESPN had 4 billion in revenue in 2022. Disney’s broke and squeezed every ounce of profit out of the 4 billion to cover its losses in movie productions and theme park losses, even then Disney wanted more and made ESPN downsize their workforce to give Disney a few more million to squander. While ESPN isn’t “broke”, Disney is trying their best to destroy the network by mismanagement. There are reports that Disney is looking to either sell off a partial piece of ESPN or sell it outright in its entirety. Please let that happen sooner rather than later.

[@josephmelendez8370]

Well Florida State begs to differ. I don't know what they're trying to do legally, but they're going out swinging

[@johngarnergarner6724]

That's funny. Only a day after I said no one is leaving the ACC, FSU says they want to leave. And since they've made that statement, they've started the ball rolling. I can say this: I don't know how strong their contractual obligations are, but I'd note that typically in these cases the parties involved tend to negotiate a settlement acceptable to all. So if FSU says to the ACC, "we're leaving", then the question becomes how much will this cost? And then Clemson and UNC will say, okay, we want the same deal! So, all parties depart with their egos intact. The ACC has a full coffer with settlement money, and, atthe end of the day, they raid the American for South Florida, East Carolina and Temple.

[@GR-bn3xj]

The only people who think that Florida State can get out of the deal and still survive economically are Florida State people

[@michaelfortenberry5735]

In two weeks. Okay. Social media attracts the dimmest bulbs for sure.

[@jansonroberts2616]

I heard Clemson didn’t want to come to the SEC and compete as tigers. The SEC already has three. Clemson would make 4. In the B1G, they feel they can control those nittany lions and wildcats.

[@Tijuanabill]

I guess I don't get why FSU wouldn't just go to the SEC, if they could leave the ACC. We all know the end game is 20 team conferences.

[@mattlippiatt1273]

From what I hear that is where espn comes to play...clemson and fsu possibly miami and nc are the only real teams that give the acc contract value. Espn needs clem and fsu to stay In the acc otherwise the remaining acc contract is junk. Where the big 10 has advantages is they have fox, NBC, and CBS now. From media pov and big 10. If your able to get Into the south starting with fsu and clem take a couple more schools out west get to 20 pick up 4 more southern schools like NC, gt, va,Miami and your at 24. You end espn monopoly and bias towards the sec.

[@mattlippiatt1273]

Big 10 wants 4 to 5 teams out west and prob 5 to 6 in South and reach 24 team with 4 divisions of 6 teams if sec and let's say big 12 follow that model each Division winner gets playoff spot for 12 team playoff

[@coreylevine8095]

Florida may not want them in the SEC

[@mattlippiatt1273]

@coreylevine8095 espn controls the money they tell the sec what to do.

[@Tijuanabill]

@@mattlippiatt1273 No, they actually sign a contract, amigo, with contract terms. It's all written down.

[@stevenbland2736]

This current deal between FSU and the ACC was signed by the AD Stan Wilcox 2013-2018. Ole Stan was responsible for the past demise of FSU athletics. the guy was grossly incompetent, made derogatory comment about FSU and a known outright racist (he was fired abruptly). I personally think FSU has a legal case to be made that Stan Wilcox was had a vendetta during this time.

[@paulwhitley5515]

Good point, Worst AD in the history of FSU.

[@amateuroverlord8007]

August 15 is the deadline ACC schools have to announce if they plan on leaving.

[@punkiepinkies7948]

Lou,, how do I find tiger Kats channel man? That stream on edwards dumb ass was hilarious. I love tiger kat now

[@maharaja1352]

They making this💩 too hard Lou. I think anytime fsu fans see movement they start the rumors about them leaving. It’s pointless to leave until that GOR is expired or annulled. Period point blank. They wont benefit themselves or a new conference during this time.

[@Lsmomo55]

A percentage goes to the ACC not all of the money lou but you are right about everything else...it's the off season and people over at warchant and noles247 just need content

[@curtayars7344]

First off most of the people running their mouths about leaving on August 15th clearly don't know what they are talking about and about FSU bragging about the ACC deal not a single one of those administration people who bragged are still at FSU so you can drop that point and comment!!! Every school receives money from the TV deals which is why every SEC and BIG 10 School has significantly more money to spend on facilities and other recruiting tool's bro so stop it

[@timothyfrederick9591]

My man Lou.Real talk though if the money even's out Fsu is going to Fsu.Go Noles/Bucks

[@meatthenole5601]

20 year deal! That’s what it was.

[@TheRealCasualGamer0101]

Finally talking about someone other than Ohio State

[@KnowTheRules69]

It’s coming up now because after the evaluation of the tv deal and grant of rights the new AD Mike Alford at fsu said that fsu will be extremely behind teams of the SEC and BIG10 once their tv deal is done. I respect fsu for this because they love football and want to stay relevant. Teams of the pac-12 and ACC will eventually be left in the dust because of the amount of money those schools make compared to BIG10 & Sec schools. As big as the brand is, Vanderbilt shouldn’t be making 30 more million a year than fsu. And vandy would be a lot more relevant in college football if their academic standards weren’t so high.That’s the whole point. It’s all about staying relevant.

[@jansonroberts2616]

But Alford has since come out and said that FSU was proud to be a member of the ACC and happy to be there. Which is it? Flip Flops are for the beach.

[@RJ-fe9pu]

You can be proud to be in a conference and still be upset with getting screwed over.. I hope fsu fails.

[@guyonmushrooms9097]

As one of those 13 followers i can vouch that indeed i knew Colorado was leaving at least a week before it was announced

[@briangwin1251]

"start a law firm, man" LMAO.

[@flastatenole]

If you would do a little research, you could answer just about every question you posed. Also, there was a lot of chatter on the internet just before Texas and OU, as well as USC and UCLA realignment. Apparently you didn't pay attention. . . .

[@sarkattack9968]

If Florida pays $120 million then they would get their rights back. Otherwise why would they pay that much for nothing? That’s ridiculous Lou.

[@ronlowney4700]

The Buyout is $93 Million, is What I Heard! 👂

[@joshjohnson7428]

As a Florida State fan I hope we so leave next year but it will probably be a year or two at best because of legal things that has to happen in court

[@jamesmiller6829]

First off I'd like to say I love your channel and the work you do, but you're way off base on this particular topic lol. August 15th is the deadline for FSU to announce if they were leaving the ACC or not, why they would have to announce by then I don't know but that's what the August 15th date is really all about. As far as the 300mil buyout and whether there's any truth to that I don't know, but I do know that by 2030 it's estimated that with the additions of USC and UCLA each big10 school will get an annual payout around 100mil, SEC with Oklahoma and Texas 90mil, the ACC if it remains intact 52mil. So in other words if the rumors about a 300mil are true, then even with FSU paying the ACC 30mil a year for 10yrs they would still make around 20mil more a year by 2030 if they did indeed break the away and join the big10. They would have to give away 30mil of their 100mil until *2036* the year the GOR deal is up. One last thing relating to your doormat comment, though it would be more difficult to win the Big10 or the SEC FSU at peak efficiency can be as good as ANYBODY with the right coach. FSU for example is 37-6-1 against the big10 all-time, and 8-2 against LSU all-time. Has FSU been in the dumps the last 6yrs? Absolutely, but let's not act like they couldn't just as easily become the next Georgia or Alabama with the same resources and a really good coach lol

[@jansonroberts2616]

I remember Texas and Oklahoma asked for a payment type exit when they made their announcement of leaving and where laughed out of the room by the Big12 schools. FSU or Clemson or whoever is wanting to leave doesn’t get to decide how they pay. OU and Texas was told if they wanted to make payments, fine but you’re here until the final payment is made. We’ll have to see how that works for those wanting to leave in the ACC.

[@jamesmiller6829]

@jansonroberts2616 obviously they don't get to decide 🙄 that's why there's rumors that they might just try and come to a deal with the ACC about the Grant of rights, or just take the conference to court. And if 8 or more conference members decide to vote on leaving at the same time then the conference would dissolve and the Grant of rights would hold no power

[@KnifeyBuckeye]

What would you expect from an app called X...

[@anthonytitone]

FSU & Clemson fans also gotta stop acting like this is the Grant of rights is so awful, it’s kept their conference together unlike the PAC12 & BIG12, without the ACC Grant of rights we might b stuck with 2 super conferences

[@TheKevinNewsom]

Nice explanation of the GOR.

[@collegeflow421]

It about the money. Simple answer. With this new big 2 forming. You are either in or out in the future. FSU is relevant in non revenue sports( women’s soccer, women’s softball, baseball, track etc.) the conference revenue, would allow us to keep coaches and continue to build our nonrevenue sports along with football. Any SEC or Big Ten school at this point could just come in and out bid your softball coach, soccer coach, baseball coach, etc. FSU isn’t one of the older universities that has lots of generational wealth. There is a couple rich boosters, but it’s a relatively poor university compared to others, and that’s coming from an FSU fan. I don’t know when it will happen, but what I’ve heard from the Moore’s which if you don’t know them one of the top boosters at fsu and my grandpas best friend. Says they will be out of the ACC no later than 2027’ for what it’s worth. Basically fans/boosters at fsu are seeing they need all their money going to nil, and you need the TV revenue for coach retention. Tv money and booster donations will help fund facilities. FSU doesn’t want to fall behind because they don’t have enough resources to keep up. I don’t think there going to leave right now I just think they are making public threats to get more teams willing to panic and essentially vote to dissolve the GOR. Again no one gets to see the contract but this is just from reliable FSU boosters and FSU reporters I trust. I’m not claming there in a new conference by 24’ but by 27’ they are as good as fine unless something drastically changes with the ACC.

[@dawgbones7817]

ACC is the easiest path to the playoff for them

[@mrwnoles]

Twitter is fairly accurate

[@un1verse596]

Well we may be stuck making 30 million dollars less a year than rutgers and vandy, but at least we dont have to deal with the Ohio State or Tennessee fan on an annual basis