Creating A Better Dairy Alternative

[@cactustactics]

It's so cool that she was happy to talk through all the ingredients and what they bring to the mix

[@rsbatcrh06]

Shows true confidence in their product.

[@Ryukachoo]

Most likely their special sauce is beyond just the ingredients, such that if a competitor just threw all that together they wouldn't get something nearly as good

[@leonardmccain668]

@@Ryukachoo The amounts/ratios are clearly really critical. And probably several processing details.

[@cactustactics]

@@Ryukachoo oh sure there'll be more to it than just throwing the ingredients together, but there's a huge amount of time and effort spent on researching what works, what doesn't, what your options are and how you can solve the issues you'll run into. So I respect them sharing what they've learned with others, the result of all that work, instead of holding that knowledge back for a competitive edge

[@VenoPlonk]

She seems rather passionate.....

[@jameshoffmann]

Update: the site is back up, thanks for your patience (and interest) all!

[@mcgreg9152]

Looks more like a advertising video unfortunately. 👎 Usually I expect from you to experiment and taste it. I am happy to mix oat/soya milk with full fat milk and pleased with the results.

[@Kijad]

Thank you for the video, even if we over-hugged! This is the wonderful, detail-oriented analysis that I come here for 💛

[@ostelaymetaule]

Happens often when the product is being displayed or discussed on a popular platform, Basically that means Rebelbarista have done a good job in marketing =). In Russian IT community, we call it "habra-effect" because each time someone posts something interesting on that blogging platform(habrahabr, kinda reddit for it and tech stuff) and thousands of people read and click on the link simultaneously, the server infrastructure behind that link is just not prepared for the masses =)

[@alausanaaa]

@@mcgreg9152 he states that he is biased, and it is clearly marked as an ad so of course it looks like one and that is fine.

[@talialalalala]

@@mcgreg9152 James is very good at keeping his opinions out of videos that cover products he has a strong bias for, such as this one, so it doesn’t get muddled with his normal experimental and comparative videos.

[@kwilj]

Today's sweater level: post-Matrix Neo as a dad but ready to take Trinity out for a lovely evening without the kids

[@Eva-ww8kx]

Do you always assess the sweater levels?

[@FeOfTheElement]

make this a regular asssesment

[@angrytrees7519]

@@Eva-ww8kx if they don't, they should.

[@danizanzibar4344]

Spoiler: Trinity died and there was NO spoon

[@deeemme4777]

Surely you mean no scoop.

[@gijs_d]

I love how he always tells if he had a part in making it, total transparency. keep up the good work. love the product, I hate it wen a guest asks for a plant base milk for their cappuccino, I just does not froth well. hope this makes a change in the world.

[@CandyGirl44]

Strange - I've had amazing soy, almond and oat cappuccinos. Also try the Barista blends if you have difficulty texturizing.

[@thepeterparkershow]

Pacific milks and Oatly barista edition work pretty well for me!

[@IainChalmers]

@@CandyGirl44 I've had great oat capps, but they've always been a little too "porridge-y" to my palette. I'll be really curious to try this, where they've acknowledged that "straight oat" is perhaps not the best choice.

[@evindrews]

Oatly full fat is about the same as the Oatly barista version. I highly recommend it, for me it froths better then even real milk.

[@bigglyguy8429]

I hate it when a guest asks for such a thing because then you know you've invited a vegetarian into your home! It's awkward to get rid of them while remaining polite.

[@CHEFPKR]

This is amazing. Can't wait to test it out as my wife and I have a hard time finding good alternatives that don't include lots of gums as binders.

[@jayleno2192]

What's wrong with natural gums? People use aquafaba all the time for vegan cooking, and that's basically just natural gums dissolved in water.

[@brittanyvond.491]

@@jayleno2192 gums can cause digestive issues. Some people have sensitivities or allergies to xanthan gum for example.

[@PhosphorAlchemist]

@@jayleno2192 The specially produced/extracted ones can cause some people trouble. Your example of aquafaba is a combination of bean proteins that is not selected for stability on drying and reconstitution. Xanthan gum, gellan gum, and carageenan are all specific extracts selected for their ability to dehydrate and rehydrate without degrading or clumping. That persistence doesn't bother most people (myself included), but in some sensitive people (like my brother) it causes complete digestive havoc.

[@chloelomas625]

It does seem this is gum free, but do be aware that the binding agent she's talking about in the sunflower seeds is lecithin (often seen in foods as a soy derivative) so if you have issues with that just be aware

[@afromaximus]

Bonsoy is my go to here in Australia. Its a very straight forward ingredients list which I like with no added oil. Very popular in cafes here as well. Not sure if its available in Europe?

[@GrumpyGrunt]

Zara makes an exquisite spokesperson for the Rebel Kitchen brand. Not only extremely competent about the subject, she just BEAMS when she talks about some of the breakthroughs made on this product. Great interview from both of you. If it were available here in the States, I would give it a whirl. I will if and when it does make it across the Pond. Thanks and stay well, James (and Zara).

[@thislooksfun1]

Good news, if you haven't seen! It's being sold in the US under the "Myracle Kitchen" brand. If you search for "Myracle Mylk" it should be the first result.

[@jakemoffat50]

I’ve got to say I’ve tried plenty of milk alternatives for coffee, the majority being oat products but this is without doubt the most neutral tasting and creamy product I’ve tried. I’ve steamed about 4 litres so far and it performs really well with regards to latte art. Huge thumbs up for me👍

[@rizaradri316]

Oat milk certainly the best plant based milk for coffee. But, it doesn't work really well for tea. I guess I'll have to stick with good old milk

[@crystaledwards8854]

@@rizaradri316 Oatly Barista is best for coffee; cheap soya milk is best for tea! Cheap i.e. NOT Alpro (gross), but try Co Op’s own, Tesco’s own, Morrison’s own, which are 50p - £1 a carton. Has no weird vanilla flavour to it, the tea just tastes like tea 👍

[@sk-sm9sh]

@@rizaradri316 tea is pretty good with soy milk after you get used to it wou wouldn't go back to reg milk. I got used to while living in asia and I can't drink milk anymore it just doesn't taste right anymore. Milk is infact aquired taste we just get used to it as we drink it since child hood but in the end of the day it's a cows milk it's meant for cows not for us.

[@skyex]

As a longtime vegan and (even longer-time) coffee fan, I'm extremely excited about this. Non-dairy alternatives have steadily improved over the years, and this seems like it's finally reached its full potential. I'll eagerly await its release in the US, and I'll certainly be directing all of my friends in the industry towards it.

[@brucebello2049]

Hi James, only just found this video, really impressed with the care and attention that went into the product, unfortunately as a Type 2 diabetic I’m not able to use it, I use Plenish organic Almond or cashew milk as there is nothing in it that spikes my blood sugar. It does sound very good.

[@ashleycapdeboscq364]

SO EXCITED TO TRY THIS Waiting impatiently for it to be here in the US

[@angrytrees7519]

I just tried several sites to see if they'd agree to ship here. No luck yet but persistence sometimes pays off.

[@rcpmac]

I have been buying “barista edition” oat milk from Califa (California based). They don’t use coconut cream but do add fat, sunflower oil And the other ingredients described in Mylk vid.

[@anitapaulsen3282]

@@JimboJones99 Could you please elaborate on the potato milk? Do you make it yourself?

[@GrahamTriggsUK]

Well done James - you've already managed to crash Rebel's website!

[@johnmalin4933]

Hahahahaha

[@ashleycapdeboscq364]

Alas, how will I sign up for their mailing list now? James, you monster

[@mattta-min3441]

A slight downside of the 'Hoffmann effect' ...

[@KDBAO]

I've managed to order a bunch of them on mobile. Try again my friend.

[@gigglybeast]

I guess this infomercial worked.

[@stefanantonio1394]

what i've learnt after watching a lot of hoffmann is that.... "host" 'is his favorite word to use to describe a group of something haha

[@brent5795]

Kinda wish you didn't point this out haha.... Now it's a little distracting 😕

[@eurovision50]

Something I've wondered is why there isn't a vegan milk on the market that mixes different ingredients. Milks like soya, oat etc. are all good, but all have their own off-tastes. By mixing several together, I figured that you'd get the milkiness, whilst diluting the various off-tastes. I tried at home mixing soya cream with oat, almond and pea milks and it worked pretty well!

[@markwrangham489]

I tried this as a replacement for Oatly Barista and I found that Mylk Barista has a chalky aftertaste that Oatly doesn't. I've got another 5 cartons of Mylk to get through so maybe it will grow on me - but for now I still prefer Oatly Barista. Same coffee, same brewing method, just changed the milk. Updated: I switched to a darker roast and it's better - now I can't detect the chalky taste.

[@jonnygarbe5720]

Have you tried with a milk only drink? I’m getting a bit of a nutty flavour

[@itsbazyli]

Agreed, I feel the same. Won't switch to darker roasts just for Mylk, cause I love my light roasts.

[@stuffandnonsense8528]

Try Oatly Whole, it's even better.

[@sabelinho]

@@stuffandnonsense8528 What is Oatly Whole. I haven’t seen it in Germany yet. So far I’m using and really liking Oatly Barista but curios if there is something even better out there.

[@stuffandnonsense8528]

@@sabelinho yeah, oatly do a refrigerated range with three versions corresponding to skimmed, semi, and whole. Whole is better than Barista. I don't see why the UK would have these and Germany not have them. I think Germany actually has more vegans than the UK and surely trade with Sweden is even easier.

[@geoffvdw]

The deep dive into each ingredient and purpose was fascinating, it’s refreshing to hear a company being so open, honest and detailed about their product. Will definitely be trying it when it’s available in AU (sold out rn).

[@Anon-21j]

As someone who's been in love with Oatly in coffee for the last 4 years, I can't wait to try this out!

[@updlate4756]

A personal issue with these creamers is package size and shelf life after opening. 5 days isn't much. I put a splash of milk in each of my two cups of coffee per day, so it would take ~3 weeks to go through a container like this. If you're sharing with someone else, at work, or in a cafe, it would make sense, but hard to accept the price for a single person who wouldn't use 100% of it.

[@Eva-ww8kx]

could you freeze them into ice cubes?

[@JadeNeoma1]

just an aside you should know regular milk is also supposed to be finished within 3 days. you can buy just a pint of it though which is about half of the regular size of these but I believe this is also sold in half measures

[@Omnilatent]

Can't say about this brand specifically but every oat milk I ever owned would last for MOTHS. I once opened a bag in mid-summer, went on a very long vacation, came back TWO MONTHS later and cautiously tried it from the fridge and it tasted as newly opened.

[@telanis9]

The "best before" date is not an expiry date. If your milk isn't tasty enough at 95% quality, it was probably awful to begin with.

[@updlate4756]

@@telanis9 Old comment you're replying to, but I wasn't referring to the best by date, but the note on the package that says "drink within 5 days after opening."

[@marknowicki3178]

Wow! Completely blown away by Zara's knowledge. Very informative and gives us a glimpse into the consumer goods creation process. Thank you once again James for a phenomenal video.

[@KhanhPham-mr9up]

Making an alternative milk for baristas out of a blend of plants is genius. I can't wait for this to hit Australian shelves.

[@NotTheRealRyan]

Likewise, got excited to see Woolies has the brand, but sadly not this line yet.

[@EdgeMasterPro]

@@NotTheRealRyan what do they have.

[@NotTheRealRyan]

@@EdgeMasterPro Looks like Woolworths Metro only, but no online so need to find one of those stores to have a look. Other Aus stores have the other lines based on a Google search.

[@hopegold883]

He said “Australia and the other territories.” I wondered. Is that common, to refer to Australia that way? I came to the comments wondering if I’d find anyone bent out of shape, but it appears not.

[@kalyxcy]

@@hopegold883 not common

[@bluebuddha74]

I’m a coffee with whole milk guy. The dairy alternatives have not worked for me. However my biggest point of frustration with coffee is getting it to taste consistently good. After much experimentation with different breakfasts, I have come to the conclusion that you must have savory food with it. When we have a three pepper egg Tagine with spices, my coffee tastes world class, the way it should. I would love to see you talk about or experiment with food pairing with coffee and how savoriness brings out the best of coffee and balances the acidity.

[@Ethan-es5pu]

Not sure where you’re living, but as a coffee with whole milk guy myself, I have been blown away by the barista blend oat milk by Califa Farms. Little pricey, but it’s DAMN close in my opinion if you have a solid espresso machine for steaming.

[@bluebuddha74]

@@Ethan-es5pu thanks Ethan. I’m in CT. Will check it out.

[@Tony2dH]

There is a video on this channel about using salt in coffee to enhance the sweetness

[@tezzanewton]

I’m with you on this one Sal. I also like a little chilli hit with my coffee. You raise a good point pairing different food with coffee and I’d also like to see this.

[@bluebuddha74]

@@tezzanewton I should also say that I use James’ French press technique, have played with grind size and other things but it still comes down to what it’s paired with before I’m fully satisfied.

[@chris_hall_music]

Hey James! I've been eating plant based for many years and drinking speciality coffee for the last 10 years or so. When I switched to whole bean, freshly roasted single origin coffee to grind and brew at home, putting any milk in coffee seemed totally out of the question. Why would I want to lose all of those amazing flavours? Yet at the same time, an amazing flat white is still a great drink, it can be quite an indulgent treat! Being plant based I used to use Bonsoy. Which was ok. It makes a nice Iced latte where the cold temps can hide the shortcomings in flavour. Then came Oatly Barista milk. For me this is the gold standard for making milk drinks. It's so creamy and makes not just a good "plant based alternative" but a super tasty drink that I often choose over espresso or V60. Having said that, I'm still excited to try new names, and I want them to succeed! After watching this I rushed to order a pack of Rebel Mylk and succeeded, and I must say, that I'm surprised this got your endorsement. I found that the acidity of fresh coffee makes notes of this plant milk sour, and there is a strong cardboard note (can't believe I'm talking about milk in this way) in what is supposed to be a savoury base. I was disappointed. I hope that doesn't sound too disparaging, it's not meant to be. I am curious to hear what you think about this plant milk vs Oatly. My main gripe with Bonsoy, Minor Figures, Mylk and other plant milks is that they develop this sourness, I think it's something to do the the natural sweetness of the milk mingling with the acidity in an undesirable way. It seems Oatly has a very prominent creamy and fatty mouthfeel that masks this problem that develops into a creamy and full bodied drink. So much so that I put in in my v60 and end up with a great drink, my former purist self is cringing as I type that, but f*%k it, I love things that taste good! And so do guests in my home that don't necessary want coffee that is acidic or fruity. I'd love to hear what your thoughts are. I'd love to see a comparison video someday! Sending massive support and respect to the Mylk team and yourself for developing and getting this out there. It's a few adjustments away from getting there!

[@goodwork887]

Take a look at the ingredients. Rapeseed oil is generally something I avoid, which is my one grip with Oatly Barista. High in toxin Erucic acid. Look it up.

[@jonhughes4079]

Damn, Zara sounds like she really knows what's going on there, I'm glad you got to interview her for this.

[@jofleea]

Zahra*

[@bassicvegan]

I love nutritional Yeast, literally goes on everything i eat. Didn't expect to find it on the ingredients in this Mylk though! I haven't yet tried it in my porridge!

[@anthea5278]

“It will be in Australia” thats what I wanted to hear! I love how transparent they are!! Exited to compare it to Oatly

[@randomdaysy]

I think it's worth mentioning that plant milk and particularly barista plant milk is often not as monogamous as its label will suggest and can be a problem for allergy sufferers, I've seen a lot of almond and coconut milks with soy or oat in for example.

[@daitokuji8327]

well done James. I am a black coffee drinker myself but I am vegan so have enjoyed the boom of plant based milk alts that have been hitting the shelves over the last few years. I have seen Mylk in the shops (I am in the UK) and was very interested in the choice to blend different plants rather than go with the mono ingredient. it seemed like a good USP but now I know why each of the plants were chosen and it makes me even more interested to check it out. Thank you for being a part of the progress of plant based foods!

[@brentroman]

Thank you so much James for doing this video. Everything about this makes me happy. I have been using only milk alternatives for the past 25 years, and being into coffee, I’m always searching for the best product in that regard. So, this is particularly exciting for me. I also really appreciate not only the taste and texture aspects, but also the ethical and environmental impacts of the ingredients/suppliers as well. Being in the US, I may have to wait a while to try this, but Looking forward to it. Cheers!

[@RobinsonRDavid]

This is outstanding. I’m so impressed with this commitment to get plant based milk for coffee right, as well as the commitment to be faithfully organic. Well done.

[@echidnaromano9855]

I don’t even like milk in my coffee but that doesn’t mean I won’t watch this video at least 3 times.

[@martin_miller]

hey Echidna, same here not had milk in my coffee for decades, just tried some while Mylk, could not get the one from the video.... and really enjoyed the cappuccino I made. Very surprised I enjoyed it so much

[@echidnaromano9855]

@@martin_miller I would love to try it after watching this video, but sadly I don’t live in the UK and therefore don’t have access to it

[@iFreshCrispy]

@rogue I wish this would be expanded to the Americas sooner! I would love to walk into a cafe and order this in particular

[@Pimjeanpaul]

I dont like milk in my coffee either, have actually preferred plant based milk in the last couple years. There is some sweetness to it that I really like in plant based milk. you should def try it out if you dont like normal milk!

[@echidnaromano9855]

@@Pimjeanpaul I really like dairy milk but when I’m drinking coffee I just want to enjoy it without any layers disguising the real flavour

[@thatcherdrake6452]

Hi james! Vegan here for 6+ years. Thanks for being open minded and working on this product- I cannot WAIT to try it once it hits the US! Finding a good nondairy milk for steaming is so hard, I hope this one will be my prayer answered!

[@olebla5434]

If that's not an ad for your hair product. The strand vs. gravity.

[@Sn0wman5]

I‘ll continue using Oatly until Rebel will export to the EU which hopefully will happen soon. Fingers crossed!

[@masumessi]

I wonder how these 2 compare ?

[@itsbazyli]

@@masumessi In my opinion Oatly is much better. See my other comment: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIazZ3aJj9iWa9E&lc=UgwxBO84RECwcfaluwR4AaABAg

[@nakibsayyed4999]

I found this channel when Lew was talking about coffee making with the Spinn machine and the comments recommended this, glad to have found this channel.

[@LeadSkillets]

I haven't explored making my own espresso, but I'll give this stuff a try when I do. I've recently switched to black coffee from flavoured, sugary creamer for dental and dietary reasons. A few years back I experimented with making an almond based creamer. The best recipe required 2:1 creamer to coffee for a not horrible taste, and with that ratio it was a pointless endeavor.

[@chrisvine9005]

Looking forward to comparing this to Oatly barista milk. Think that makes great coffee.

[@ethanbrady5736]

Oatly is just great. I’m yet to try this version of rebel plant milk

[@trainvreck]

Oatly is really good, would love to compare the two

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

Oatly Barista is my absolute favourite milk! It foams like no other and oats have that natural creaminess and sweetness.

[@richardemerson8075]

Oatly is the best of the rest and it was my favourite until I tried the Rebel Mylk stuff. Rebel Mylk is another level. (no I don't work for them)

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

@@richardemerson8075 did you try the barista version of oatly? How do they compare? To be honest I can't imagine anything better tasting but I never had Mylk ☺️

[@jb-wj6se]

Great video, super interesting going into the breakdown of ingredients used. Mine arrived earlier this week and I'm a big fan. Velvety texture, neutral taste, foams beautifully. Thanks James for the recco!

[@ns1983za]

James, you always have the most satisfying intro music.

[@ButterWizard1]

this excites me a lot i’ve been trying to give up dairy for over a year now, my preferred alternative is oat milk atm. mylk seems like an interesting choice for a name just because my mind instantly goes to a situation where im trying to communicate to my barista that i want mylk and not milk. could be a non issue just something that came to mind. love the content James, happy new year!

[@emeraldchan7770]

I can’t wait to see this in my local store shelves! (California, USA)

[@alexander191297]

Being a barista myself, I've noticed this trend across the UK that oat milk seems to be seen as a nation's favourite.

[@Sebciomax]

Seems to be the trend here in the US, even non-vegan people are switching to it.

[@alexander191297]

@@Sebciomax I wonder what's up with it. In all honesty, it tastes OK, but I would expect there to be more or less the same popularity as soy and coconut milk. Maybe it's the oat milk's perceived "neutrality" when compared to the other alternatives?

[@Sebciomax]

@@alexander191297 I find soy milk doesn't come out as good when in Coffee since it has a tendency to curdle, and coconut milk just isn't as good unless you use the canned variety.

[@alexander191297]

@@Sebciomax Yeah, but then again, there are many blended alternatives (e.g. soy/coconut mix by Alpro, the barista blend), which are more than good for most coffees. And even with oat milk, it's important to go for the barista editions, as the normal ones contain substances such as chicory root which prevent the formation of microfoam...

[@swisski]

For me I like to make oat milk, because they are a sustainable local crop, and being cheap, means I can afford to buy organic. Plus it has a neutral creamy taste and is naturally sweetish. Sometime I do a blend with some cashews as well. I don't want to pay $4-5 for a liter of imported almond milk from the U.S. when it contains may be 4% almonds and a whole lot of water and other stuff.

[@wojtek2798]

When will I be able to get it in Germany?

[@LolitaDark]

I am so glad! I had been waiting for you to make a video on plant-based mylks, as a vegan and coffee lover I am always on the look out for which are the best mylks, so far my favourites are Happy Happy soy Boy, Bonsoy (best one for cold brews in my po) and Oatly! (amazing both cold and hot and I often describe it as a "skim" mylk), can't wait for this mylk to come to Australia! Thank you James!

[@enigmadubz]

I’ve tried pretty much every plant based Barista style milk on the shelves and this really excites me as I use the Rebel Kitchen whole mylk all the time. My box of 6 cartons of this barista version arrived this morning and although I’ve only had chance to make one flat white using it, I’ve got to say it’s absolutely great. Love it 👌

[@gaslitworldf.melissab2897]

Welcome to 2021. Can't wait for what you roll out in months to come AND the February special. Congratulations to the winners. Good luck on your YT debut or guest appearance.

[@Eco_Hiko]

Regardless of Mr. Hoffman's work with the brand, seeing this video makes me want to try it. Mostly because I really appreciate the run down of the ingredients. More companies should do this

[@TheHadeelMohammad]

Because of you James Hoffman...I'm a home barista for a month now! Great experience...can't thank you enough!

[@sjfarrell2.03]

I'm fascinated at how they can import multiple ingredients from all over the world, process them, mix them all together, ship them to retailers and still make it more sustainable than a product that is created a couple of miles away on a farm. Truly amazing.

[@caitlin1171]

Cuz cows need a lot of food, and that food is imported from countries that make space to grow that food by burning down rainforest

[@jukesngambits]

They can't. Global shipping is far more detrimental to the environment than dairy farming.

[@caitlin1171]

@@jukesngambits Maybe read my comment above.. the food for dairy cows are imported, and it's a hell of a lot more than the amount needed for plant milk.

[@Nick-cp3sr]

Super keen to try this.. 👏🏻🤗⁣ ⁣ Unless I completely misconstrued the ingredients - because this product is organic (?) Calcium and B12 can’t be added.⁣ ⁣ Most fortified plant milks aim to replicate dairy milk containing 120 mg of calcium and 0.38 µg of B12 per 100/ml. ⁣ Not really an issue if people are just using this as an addition to coffee.⁣ ⁣ Worth mentioning as if someone is 100% plant-based non dairy milks often contribute to a significant amount of calcium and B12 requirements. 👍🏻

[@wisemx]

Longtime Vegan, love seeing more of these.

[@channul4887]

no need to capitalise "vegan"

[@platinumdynamite]

@@channul4887 shhhh :)

[@austinbrady5453]

@@channul4887 but how else are people supposed to know that vegans are superior to all others?

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

@@channul4887 no need to be annoyed.

[@_leivo]

@@austinbrady5453 just by saying vegan, it's already superior :)

[@thespookykitty]

I'm in the US and I am looking forward to trying this. I love the attention to detail and care they put into the ingredients.

[@chrism95]

Who wouldve thought that the weird salt in coffee hack would end up being the game changer in a (soon to be) popular product

[@lindsaytoussaint]

this is amazing and I love her walking through all the ingredients for us. wow! seems like an amazing company as well. cant wait to see this in US!

[@vojtechpilar5809]

An important question: what do you call this milk when you're ordering it? "Can I have a flat white made with..."?

[@JasonKenway]

Got to be a Rebel flat white

[@TAdamRox]

Malk

[@jakobhansen2854]

Rebel mylk. Its in the description.

[@zephyrpp]

Hoffmann Juice

[@RafaelMirandaa]

Just pronounce it maiulk

[@mdt13]

Very interesting as I am lactose intolerant and have tried nearly all plant based milks. I have found some good ones that are made especially for baristas, BUT they don't have any additives! This sounds very great and very organic and then they still add an additive in the end, even if it is food grade and considered safe...I would still rather buy one without any additives!! They are not necessary. Would still like to try this one in comparison with other barista milks and see which one tastes better.

[@KTOWNK1D]

I've been playing around with Mylk since it arrived on Thursday and while I love how it's been performing for me, the flavor is a bit overwhelming and undelivering. The mouthfeel is silk textured in a manner of speaking, but that punch of oat is overwhelming. Califia's Barista Oat Milk blends with coffee. This outshines it.

[@silpheedTandy]

"This outshines it" -- do you mean that Califa's outshines Mylk?

[@duffman18]

@@silpheedTandy I think they're trying to say that it overpowers the coffee flavour, so that you're tasting the Mylk more than you can taste the coffee itself. Whereas normal cow's milk, and other plant-based alternatives like Oat milk, are a lot more neutral and so they allow the coffee to shine rather than overpower it and outshine it

[@I-insist]

Really appreciate your videos, great explanations/information and reviews. This is a space where often times I feel people get get real pretentious when they go into detail about coffee.. and I never feel that when watching you, which increases my excitement about learning about coffee and ways to brew.

[@jasonm07]

I want to just go on record and state I watch these videos while drinking my Dunkin' Donuts k-cup coffee with Cinnamon Coffeemate in it. Yup.

[@gianni.santi.]

Dunkin Donuts numba wan

[@thecrazyanchovy9218]

This is enlightening. I'll try when I can get one but understanding ingredients helps. I might mix a few now to see .To those who are upset over product placement, I'm getting great information and help, for free, and if there's a product at the end to support the channel then that's a bonus.

[@jofleea]

I'VE TRIED IT AND IT'S GOT THAT VELVETY MOUTHFEEL THEY ARE ON ABOUT! YUM YUM YUM!

[@coleroyce]

Very interesting. My wife and now I, avoid cow dairy for a few reason, her main one being avoiding hormones associated with dairy. But we usually use coconut milk or oat milk. I’ll have to look for this in the US to try it. The sunflower oil turned me off until I heard her discuss the processing method. Interesting blend!

[@brianrankin6159]

Hahaha, the website got hugged to death! whew.

[@starbreez]

Finally cracked open a carton. I have been using the Moka pot + Milk frother (Lavazza) method to make a morning latte with espresso roast beans from SMR and Oatly’s Barista. Verdict on day 1 of Rebel Mylk - Pro: Properly delicious and distinctive taste on its own. Con: Unlike the Oatly, the froth suddenly collapsed when i stir the coffee. So now I just have milky tasty coffee instead of a frothy happiness.

[@acerock013]

James Hoffman could read the phone book and I'd find it relaxing

[@fptuning]

Thanks for the Introduction James, I've submitted an order with your code. The wife bought some of the Semi Skimmed version from a local supermarket, whilst for cereal I find it perfectly fine it does seem to add a smoky/ashy after taste in a flat white. Looking forward to trying the Barista specific version!

[@fptuning]

Follow up on this... I now have the barista version to comment on. Whilst cold its pretty indistinguishable from dairy milk in tea I can tolerate it. I'm not a fan steamed and in coffee. Its dominating flavour is the oat milk and adds too much unnatural sweetness dominating the coffee. The coconut milk element seems to have a habit of solidifying in the carton which is difficult to break down with a vigorous shake until the carton is half empty. Good cold, but for Me Oatly Barista is probably still my go to product for a non dairy flat white. I'm always happy to experiment with new products though so thanks for sharing and ill keep tabs on any further developments surrounding the product.

[@hs1626]

I'm glad that all the ingredients are really lovely

[@jankyj2269]

lovely

[@markhibbert9777]

Really lovely

[@chrisha4644]

Was searching for this lovely organically grown comment. Interesting video though

[@InefficientElectron]

I was disappointed by this. Very little detail about what the ingredients are actually doing, and mostly just stressing how lovely and organic and obtained without *evil chemicals* they are. Organic farming is an environmentally destructive luxury for the rich nations of the world, and pretending it’s all puppies and rainbows is unconscionable.

[@wastedtime101]

@@InefficientElectron that is completely inaccurate please educate yourself. I've an M.Sc. in Organic Horticulture and my thesis was 100% not on puppies or rainbows unfortunately, that sounds lovely though.

[@TheEzpze]

I really enjoy the content you put out and the value you bring. i have been watching you on and off for about a year now. Boy it's been interesting seeing the increase in production value and the subtle introduction of advertising. I enjoy your openness with this. I can't help but feel like I just watched a really long advert. Like breaking down each of the ingredients was interesting and will stave away those who worry about how processed it is (me included). Hearing mouth feel being used on so many occasions by the producer of the product too. I don't really know what my point is or how I feel about this. However the product development journey and the reason for all the ingredients was very informative. I think the substance and depth is what differentiates not only this m'y'lk from the competitors, but this advert from the competitors. Kudos.

[@jay_stne]

Just such a shame they decided to call it "mylk", would be an absolute pain in the ass to walk into a cafe and ask "can I get that with mylk please?" "no, MYLK!"

[@neaalitygandhi]

Maybe they should have called it Milc 😹

[@UntrackedEndorphins]

Should've been melk

[@katherinelandreth2191]

Can I have that with non-dairy Mylk please? or Can I have the Mylk blend please? Not too hard.

[@UntrackedEndorphins]

@@katherinelandreth2191 "Sure what brand of non dairy milk would you like?" Mylk "Yes, milk, what brand?"

[@roulettezoku]

Easy, just say you’ll have your coffee mixed with a hint of rebellion. 8-) But really, probably easier to say “rebel kitchen mylk”. I’ll be like Julian Smith and call it malk.

[@asloan193]

I will have to grab some of this when it hits US shelves. I have been plant based for a few years now and have never been totally happy with steaming plant milks.

[@thomaschristiansigh6210]

Best alternative so far (at least in Denmark) is Oatly ikaffe.

[@mikkel.bak.jensen]

It's a Swedish product. If you live in Copenhagen, consider taking a trip to Sweden were the cost is lower. Cheers.

[@karigrandii]

The people behind oatley are a bit questionable... I’m not supporting them after what I’ve heard

[@GregVidua]

@@karigrandii which is what? Why the hell do people like you mention something and don't explain what you mean?

[@Arat1t1]

@@GregVidua They're partially owned by Blackstone and China Resources, that's usually what people have qualms about.

[@lebowskii98_9]

@@GregVidua @jaja is referring to the investment they received last year from a private equity firm so that they could expand their operation. The PEF has supposedly previously invested in a company that built a road through the Amazon rainforest. Personally I don't think this is an issue. Oatly themselves are not responsible for deforestation. They needed investment and got some of it through a private equity firm. That's the nature of the beast.

[@srfzon]

Yay, so happy to hear there's a product like this out there, thank you to everyone involved.

[@colinmaynard2879]

Perhaps you better introduce Rebel to Squarespace 🤣asap

[@mountainmontanaful]

My husband who is a 'true' celiac - diagnosis 33 years ago when celiac sprue was not popular. My husband cannot have oats -several studies have shown the in vitro possibility of cross-reactivity: the avenin (a protein similar in function to gluten) in oats activating gluten-reactive T cells. So the concept which you are putting forth is a truly lovely one - but not helpful for his situation. On my own, I have been experimenting with different combinations, so this video is incredibly helpful in my search/research for the best combination. I look forward to it coming to the U.S. because I will try it but sadly my husband will NOT be trying it.

[@JD96893]

2:23 yay! I finally don't feel like pleb because I always have coffee with milk! I was starting to think coffee and milk was something for people not really into coffee. I never see any of the big coffee YTers use milk.

[@etherspin]

Barista relative likes to scoff at people having milky stuff or anything sweetened..of course it's the same guy who doesn't like dark chocolate and asks for white at Easter.. of course...

[@nycbearff]

James is always careful to point out that how you like your coffee is the right way for you. He has his opinions, and things he's snobbish about - but he's very pro-individual-taste.

[@gomezfriesen]

I like how you explain the ingredients. A lot of people are being told that plant based alternatives are very processed. This shows that this product is more of a well thought out recipe.

[@cjgetreal]

I purchased a case based up this video. Big mistake. Taste is very chalky but the worst is the stuff I recieved does not foam. I tried multiple times and have no problems with other products. I would avoid.

[@rachelfung7313]

Wonderful, especially the ingredient breakdown. Looking forward to it launching in Australia! Thanks Zara and James x

[@trainvreck]

Would love to try this when it starts shipping to Denmark !

[@lennyhankins698]

I will definitely be trying this when it comes to the US. I have been doing a mixture of Unsweetened Vanilla Almond Milk mixed with 2 tablespoons of heavy cream due to my keto diet. I find this mixture to be good for foam and sweet to taste. No need for added sugar.

[@trowachess]

And we have destroyed their website XD

[@TheFinalMB]

I was just about to comment the same :p

[@vale_ol]

Sad because only 1.6k views on a video should mean a maximum of 1.6k ppl where send there. A decent Webserver should be able to handle this quite well.

[@philave5482]

and that's only for about less than 30 minutes after the video was uploaded!)

[@tommihommi1]

KZbin views when a video is first uploaded don't correlate well with actual users clicking the video

[@livegolfismygt]

Lol resource limit reached

[@maverooney1]

Just received my case, and can confirm it tastes great! Very silky finish when heated. Cheers James!

[@maverooney1]

To confirm, I heated it with a nespresso milk frother, as I don’t have a milk steamer at home. Nevertheless it came out beautifully.

[@koenreith]

Super interesting stuff! I got one question though: how long does it last in storage? Both before and after it's been opened would be nice to know

[@djgulia3656]

When he showed the ingredients, it’s says once opened, consume within 5 days.

[@enigmatickendo]

@@djgulia3656 But I bet it lasts longer, all vegan milks say that. I'm tempted to buy in bulk, I don't drink THAT much milk and 6 bottles would last me many months if it's fine, and save me money. But if it sucks I do worry.

[@enigmatickendo]

@@gr7485 It's literally organic, by legal definition it can't have an arbitrary date.

[@enigmatickendo]

@@gr7485 Ah. I'm autistic and didn't pick up on that. 😅😅

[@GarrettWease]

Can’t wait to try this in the US! I really appreciate the attention to detail and commitment to both excellent taste/mouthfeel and excellent ingredients.

[@relarras]

I went all in and ordered loads after seeing the video. After many lattes, I am not thrilled with it. It’s not bad. I don’t mind it. But my normal plant milk that I use for lattes, works much better for me. Perhaps it’s just what I am used to? But I also prefer the texture of my normal plant milk. I am curious to know how others are doing with it. Also ... I don’t want to be a negative Nancy as I appreciate brands thinking about us vegans💕

[@lebowskii98_9]

Really disappointed with mine, having ordered a dozen with the code. Does not foam at all and has a strong nutty taste when they clearly state several times in the video that they have made it very neutral to keep coffee as the strong flavour in your cup. I've emailed them asking whether I had a bad batch or if they are mis-selling the product as something it's not.

[@relarras]

@@lebowskii98_9 I am glad i am not the only one who feels this way. Yes - the texture isn’t quite right for me either. Let me know what they say. I think that’s just what their milk is like. I think as a vegan, i have tried out absolutely every vegan plant milk out there and found a few that works best for coffee for me. And I guess it’s just hard to beat those now at this point🙄

[@lebowskii98_9]

@@relarras I've tried quite a few over the last couple of years too. My preference is oat, but only the barista versions. Oatly is my go to, but I'm finding it's generally out of stock in my supermarket. The Alpro one foams just as well, but does affect the taste slightly when compared with Oatly. I'll let you know what they say. However their website says they don't allow items to be returned, so I think it might be the case that I give the cartons away to friends and family.

[@relarras]

@@lebowskii98_9 try this one: www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/plant-based-drinks/califia-farms-oat-barista-blend-1l I think that’s wonderful.

[@lebowskii98_9]

@@relarras I'll have to give it a whirl! 👍

[@sshepard5222]

My favourite dairy alternative is macadamia nut milk, it stretches beautifully and gives a beautiful velvet since it's got natural fats. It's so good it's converted a few of my milk drinking friends to giving up milk in their coffee entirely. Lucky for us macadamia is native here and widely available my favourite brand being "Australia's own" the barista version. Would love to see you try it if you could get your hands on some.

[@kinglorimer]

After doing Veganuary a few years back, and even though I didnt stay Vegan. Oatly Barista edition Oat milk in a flat white is my favourite coffee experience. It just works so well well with good coffee. And it looks pretty and steams well.

[@rjphotos]

I'm currently trialing this. I'm a convert to soya in tea, though alternatives in coffee is a little harder for me to adapt to. This doesn't taste like milk but it's not bad, definitely better than soya. Gonna stick with it for now (since I could only order 6ltr of it 😀). Will get used to it if I persevere I'm sure.

[@rustmonster]

The James Hoffman hug of death.

[@VideoFromJake]

Been lactose intolerant my whole life and only really used to drink black coffee due to how dairy alternatives (pre barista editions) would split in coffee. Love seeing that there's people out there working hard on the perfect alternative.

[@philm5872]

Oh dear..seems we've broken the Internet

[@neilrankine]

Just saw this in our local supermarket in Western Australia so had to try it. I have tried most of the milk alternatives and this one is really good drinking it by itself cold, bit of an aftertaste but nothing bad, will try steaming it for coffee in the morning.

[@caffeinebeats]

"and a few european countries" apparently means ireland. would love to get it to germany before the coupon runs out.

[@semiconnerd]

Same here, started the ordering process just find out, that we are not yet part of their target market. But hey, things do not get easier when you leave a market (EU) to become independent.

[@walkingdoor]

I've been drinking the barista mylk for about a week now. Impressions: definitely the nicest non dairy milk I've tried; first taste in the mouth is oat milk, and aftertaste is thick and creamy, kinda like single cream - this is a bit strange but not unpleasant; I find that the intense creamy aftertaste does mask the taste of the coffee though, much more so than whole milk would - feels like I've added single cream to my cup. Overall I'm happy, but I think the creaminess might need to be dialled back a bit. Thanks for the interesting recommendation!

[@jonnygarbe5720]

Did you not get a nutty taste? It’s really strong for me

[@dziuba86]

I'm surprised to hear James didn't taste coconut it this. This was the first that hit me, and not nice fresh coconut, it's this heavy greasy coconut I taste. And I do like coconut, this one just was too heavy.

[@etherspin]

Ah good to know. I love coconut where its intended to be overtly and hate it everywhere else. I like it in curries and tropical smoothies/juices but cannot stand it as a base in cheeses or milks. I know it's possible to get the flavour out though as there are quite neutral "deodorised" coconut oils available

[@JulsSization]

In Peru, I was able to try a cappuccino with home made almond milk and it blew my mind on how good it was compared to the typical store bought almond milk. Looking forward on trying this.

[@ChristianLeon81]

This is the only channel that I can watch a 1X speed

[@LeeMuzhi]

I’m cutting down dairy intake, but I love coffee with milk. So happy to find this in S’pore. Love the taste. Mylk froths beautifully. Thank you.

[@blzt3206]

It must have put a feather in your cap when a professional food scientist used your salt trick to make the product less bitter, eh? Nice work, James!

[@darrenmorris2140]

Just got my delivery this morning ,it does texture like real milk and doubles in size like normal diary ,I have to say it’s pretty tasty and creamy as I’m not looking for a diary alternative I prob won’t use it lots it’s my wife that is diary intolerant so bought it for her so I’m pleasantly surprised how nice it tastes, I don’t like coconut milk she normally buys so this a a def improvement 👍

[@cyberpokey]

I've also stopped drinking milk-based coffees and I miss them. It's difficult to find a decent alternative even at some speciality coffee shops. And even harder to get hands on any in supermarkets as the selections are very limited.

[@NightMind0]

Same here. I can only afford a small cup in the morning and I suffer for it. Roasted Almond milk in flat-whites or aeropress is my fix now

[@dan110024]

I'm guessing you've tried oat milk?? I never thought I'd stop having dairy milk in my coffees but now dairy doesn't even taste nice compared to oat milk!!

[@NightMind0]

@@dan110024 Local oat milk's too bitter, yuck

[@dan110024]

@@NightMind0 give Oatly a go. To be fair the first Oat milk I tasted was disgusting. And then Oatly came on the scene and it changed it all.

[@limp6986]

Try the Oatly Barista. Not the regular, it has to be the Barista kind. The best I've tried so far and tastes better to me than dairy milk. I've also tried Minor Figures Barista, but it's not as fatty so not as good for creamy rich coffee drinks. But perfect for cereal. Looking forward to trying this Rebel alternative though!

[@mikeystevenson6982]

The world is a better place because of you guys... Bravo!!!