Creating a retro Microsoft network using real retro hardware

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RetroSpector78

RetroSpector78

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@LGR
@LGR 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this, nice work! Lots of information and easy to follow. Never set up a 10BASE2 network myself actually, this looked fun👍
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
It was :) Glad you like it. Going to try and raise the bar with the next one where I will try to get the IBM 51XX family together for a little LAN party :)
@msinfo32
@msinfo32 5 жыл бұрын
Only 2 replies wow!
@McDuffington
@McDuffington 5 жыл бұрын
If you think that's fun... after that set-up a network using a 10Mbit hub and gaze at the beayty of the 'collision' led
@McDuffington
@McDuffington 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroSpector78 Unfortunately I do not have any old hardware anymore, but sign me up for some Doom II , Warcraft or Diablo II over IPX
@McIntec
@McIntec 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Clint!
@tapio-tvintagevelorandonneur
@tapio-tvintagevelorandonneur 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with networking but these retro computers are so cool. Watching this video brings back good memories.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
Really glad you enjoyed it !
@gfunkenator7125
@gfunkenator7125 4 жыл бұрын
"Could not reconnect all network drives" has existed since MS-DOS huh? Assign a driver letter but doesn't always mount it. Outstanding!
@redsquirrelftw
@redsquirrelftw 4 жыл бұрын
Man that was nostalgic. Trip down memory lane. I miss it, and I don't. Was simpler times though. Not a fan of newer versions of Windows they make everything so much more complicated. Linux has come a long way though and been using mostly that now days. I practically grew up on Windows 98 so it was cool to see it. I used windows 3.11 too mind you.
@kennysboat4432
@kennysboat4432 4 жыл бұрын
yes thank you!
@danieljongepier7473
@danieljongepier7473 3 жыл бұрын
Long long ago, while still living with my parents I made just such a network. Awesome at the time! Games an file exchange.
@1eshardo
@1eshardo 4 жыл бұрын
I really love windows 98 se..It brings back memories of when I was a student..
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
1eshardo great operating system... together with XP I thought these were really solid operating systems. Switched to Apple almost 10 years ago and rediscovering the microsoft operating systems through retro computing :) Even thinking about buying a new windows desktop PC :)
@1eshardo
@1eshardo 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroSpector78 Yes, this windows is so stable and simple GUI. Compare with windows 10, where windows 10 take time to open picture format..
@thetrabantguy3934
@thetrabantguy3934 4 жыл бұрын
What about First edition? Can I work with tat?
@ian_b
@ian_b 4 жыл бұрын
@@1eshardo I used Win98 as long as I could until my hardware requirements couldn't be accommodated. I thought it was great and very stable and I have always preferred the "classic" Start Menu over the "better versions" (or none at all!) in more recent versions. My first network was early 2000s and 100 Base-T with two Win98 machines. I remember it being very easy to setup and more straightforward than on Win 7 and Win 10 with the machine deciding for you whether it's a private or public network.
@1eshardo
@1eshardo 4 жыл бұрын
@@ian_bI think microsoft make come back for version win 98. look at windows 10... there are similarities..but windows 10 so poweful graphic display..and simple setting..
@pixels303at-odysee9
@pixels303at-odysee9 4 жыл бұрын
In 1998, I had me one of these setup. I used the junk thrown out at a place I worked at to play with my first network. Was only in use for a few months before switching to 10megabit, I found this setup you show to be about 3 megabit in speed. Wasn't until 2004 did I finally discard the old hardware. Always thought it might be of some use in the future, but was glad I never needed it again.
@wmlindley
@wmlindley 5 жыл бұрын
How super-advanced we felt, when we had the office rewired with 10Base2 coax cables everywhere!
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Things sure have changed ... long gone are the times when a single cable could cause an entire network to go down :)
@glen4cindy
@glen4cindy 4 жыл бұрын
This was a really cool video. I'm sure most of us no longer have hardware like this around. It's really cool, even for some of us older folks to take a look at how things used to be. Nothing close to the 100+ Mbps speed we have now with WiFi Mesh networks.
@ErniLandia
@ErniLandia 4 жыл бұрын
How boring is having DHCP and integrated network cards today... 0 emotion
@elijahr241
@elijahr241 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason I just really love seeing old computers networking
@ching-chenhuang8119
@ching-chenhuang8119 3 жыл бұрын
That brings back a lot of memory, I still remember back in '96 the computer room of my department in my college had the same network configuration, computers there only ran DOS and windows 3.11, but they had no hdd installed, loading win3.11 required network to complete.
@tornadotj2059
@tornadotj2059 4 жыл бұрын
Old hardware is "vintage", not "retro". Retro is something new that is made to look vintage. :)
@GeirEivindMork
@GeirEivindMork 4 жыл бұрын
Stop thinking like that or this hobby will make you crazy. ;)
@12opsynths
@12opsynths 4 жыл бұрын
Great distinction. Thus, DOS=vintage DOSBox=retro
@seshpenguin
@seshpenguin 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! I've never seen these old-style networks in action before. That's really cool stuff.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Thx a lot... glad you enjoyed it !
@procta2343
@procta2343 4 жыл бұрын
I am rocking an a semi old domain network too, With windows 95 and windows 3.11 with a windows NT4 server domain controller.
@0003rc
@0003rc 4 жыл бұрын
This video brings back some good old memories. But then again I don't necessarily miss the hassle that this was back in the day and the extreme low speeds and limitations that were many. 😂
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and also lots of points of failures. Lots a couple of hours the other day cause of a bad terminator plug. Problem is you always think its going to be software, configuration or irq / io resources, or something like that. Sometimes you miss the obvious.
@0003rc
@0003rc 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroSpector78 Yep very true! I'm just glad that technology has come a long way.
@josephdunkle1152
@josephdunkle1152 5 жыл бұрын
YES! NetBEUI protocol on 10base2 coax. This was my high school computer lab! Awesome.
@briangleeson1528
@briangleeson1528 4 жыл бұрын
What a cool video! I haven't seen much 286 networking before, so thanks for sharing. Especially cool to see 286/DOS talking with a Pentium/ Win98. All on real hardware, too.
@andresbravo2003
@andresbravo2003 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, these machines did A great job connecting each other! Nice video man.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
Thx ! Glad you enjoyed the video !
@PaulinesPastimes
@PaulinesPastimes 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Great video and easy information. Exactly what I will be doing when my 3.11 and Win98 machines are set up for networking. Thank you.
@ByteSizeThoughts
@ByteSizeThoughts 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation - Ive never set up a bnc based network before. Looks fun. Great hardware collection too mate!
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot ... have been lucky a couple of times in building up the collection. Only started collecting at the end of last year. Have a rule now that for every “new” old thing that comes in, something else needs to go.
@therobb5738
@therobb5738 3 жыл бұрын
Is there some kind of magic about using 3 old computers? When I was a teen in my parent's basement, I remember spending a solid week fucking around with 3 old units I had, networking them together (2 at a time, because I only had one ethernet cable), living on coca-cola and popcorn, and that was an amazing time. I could load a CD on one machine, and play it on the other! Had no speakers, but it still technically worked. Did all sorts of things- Found out what I could do, what I couldn't do, and just enjoyed the tinkering. I just turned 31 and I STILL love this stuff! My first computer was a 386 Win95. Had 2 700 MB hard drives, no sound, no CD (at first), it had been Y2K-proofed, and my favorite thing to do was mess with animations on Asymetrix 3D/FX. My first printer was a Lexmark Z11 (or X11, whichever), took several floppies to install it, and I used up the ink constantly printing out rendered images. Only had one cartridge, either black or color.
@HarmonicaMustang
@HarmonicaMustang 4 жыл бұрын
And I thought I was being retro by running a virtual domain on Windows Server 2003 and XP clients. Nice job!
@studioxxswe
@studioxxswe 4 жыл бұрын
in school, 25 years or so we had our own lan with workgroup and NT 3.1, great times. we even had a bridge
@danieltracy9801
@danieltracy9801 4 жыл бұрын
I have a good the networking cards with this connector never had a clue how it worked thanks a bunch
@Silanael
@Silanael 4 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah ... used to drive my parents crazy when I lived at home and needed to connect my computers spread out in 3 different rooms :)
@caseyhill3915
@caseyhill3915 4 жыл бұрын
When i started in I.T. we were a DEC shop and the network used DEC Thicknet cable and if you needed to make a connection, you used a "vampire" clamp to pierce the cable. You could then hook up your pc or other equipment using an AUI cable.
@Ryan.Fitton
@Ryan.Fitton 5 жыл бұрын
This was really informative, thank you. I'm too young to remember BNC, so this was great to see footage of the network setup
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Fitton glad you enjoyed it ! That’s the reason I’m making these videos. Consider subscribing if you like retro tech ... more networking stuff coming up...
@waffleMccoy
@waffleMccoy 4 жыл бұрын
I never seen this ancient tech working before I only had one machine with dial-up.
@cliffchism9187
@cliffchism9187 5 жыл бұрын
Great video with some great info. Back when I was using these machines, I didn't do any networking. So, I'm having a good time trying to get some of my old machines to work together, now. Pentium 1 running DOS and WFW 3.11, Pentium 2 running Win 95 and P4 running Win 98 SE. I really need to be able to share files between the machines. Next will be getting the Win 10 and Mac to be able to access them, as well. I've just about got the P1 running the way I want it to. Thanks for the video!
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it ! Makes sharing files between computers a lot easier. No more disk swapping / thumb drive or sd card exchanges. Old school 10mb transfer speeds :)
@zedalert
@zedalert 4 жыл бұрын
Video guide: Make sure you have proper 50 Ohm terminator at the end of your 10Mbit coaxial network. Me with 802.11ac network: Ok.
@DJ-Daz
@DJ-Daz 5 жыл бұрын
I remember LAN parties at friends homes, using novell netware, co-ax for Doom.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah ... ipx/spx gaming in msdos :)
@christopherbaar4498
@christopherbaar4498 4 жыл бұрын
Love this. I've had difficulty setting up networking on a pure DOS machine. This wants me make a new attempt. Now to somehow get my retro machines to talk to my modern fileserver, another task I have yet to accomplish.
@MikeHalk100
@MikeHalk100 4 жыл бұрын
0:43: Looks like the cockpit of the _Nostromo_ AWESOME!!!!
@doalwa
@doalwa 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god, to this day I still have PTSD from hunting around client networks, measuring the Ohm resistance between every single workstation in ever increasing desperate attempts to finally find that single defective NIC or a missing terminator. And NetBeui...oh boy, we’ve really come a long way those past 25 years 🙂
@SidBarnhoorn
@SidBarnhoorn 4 жыл бұрын
That was a very enjoyable and educational video! Thanks for making this! I'm considering creating a network now myself with my vintage machines and test it out. :)
@fahrizaljohari3821
@fahrizaljohari3821 4 жыл бұрын
this really brings back old memories. love this!
@mrvellu
@mrvellu 5 жыл бұрын
nicely done. Surely helps to expand the storage of the 286 and 486. Next time IPX network with games? :)
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Hehe ... doom or quake on the 286 ? Think there are few ipx multiplayer games for 286 :) think all of that started with doom / quake / duke nukem. But could also be a fun video.... Think there might also be multiplayer games with a null modem cable.
@iroh1048
@iroh1048 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroSpector78 and don't forget Descent! All great fun at the time.
@rookiegplays
@rookiegplays 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh memories of Doom & Quake LAN parties back in the day.
@fenchurchmarie5224
@fenchurchmarie5224 4 жыл бұрын
You did DOS, Win 3.x and Win9x all in one video. Fantastic. Subscribed ;-)
@kcinplatinumgaming2598
@kcinplatinumgaming2598 5 жыл бұрын
I will say Windows 98SE and 7 was the best OS Microsoft ever produced!
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
No doubt.
@Pisit2799p18
@Pisit2799p18 5 жыл бұрын
XP too
@f1zerstorerEurobeat
@f1zerstorerEurobeat 5 жыл бұрын
98se, 2000, XP and 7 are the greatest in my opinion
@someguystudios23
@someguystudios23 4 жыл бұрын
7 is the best modern one, surprised it didnt get the same treatment as XP. Speaking of XP, XP and 98SE were the best of the older versions.
@F4LDT-Alain
@F4LDT-Alain 4 жыл бұрын
MS-DOS based networking was capable of sharing folders. The NET START SERVER command would start this. However the machine was then turned into a dedicated server, no access to the command prompt anymore. Only IBM had a modified version of the MS Networks code that made it possible to run the file server as a background task (much like DOS' print spooler). Novell Netware also required a dedicated file server at that time.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
Alain Fauconnet will look into that and have a series of follow up networking videos planned
@Lofote
@Lofote Жыл бұрын
The old BNC days, how I (not) miss them :-D It was a pain, if only one T adapter or terminator or cable was faulty the whole network and most computers were slown down :-D We used it for gaming back in the days, playing DESCENT 2 over BNC network. When we finally could afford a RJ45 switch it was suuuuuch a relief :) Also cool to see 486 CPUs... without coolers :)... I actually forgot that back in those days you didn't need CPU coolers, I thought that was a thing of the 6502 C64 days :-D
@d.e.v.z.e.r.o
@d.e.v.z.e.r.o 5 жыл бұрын
The old times, where network file sharing was easy.
@johndunlap9139
@johndunlap9139 4 жыл бұрын
I abandoned Windows over a decade ago but I remember that being true with the older versions of Windows and that it got increasingly harder as time went on.
@compmanio36
@compmanio36 4 жыл бұрын
And horribly insecure. Just wouldn't be acceptable in today's internet connected world. These insecure protocols were used to great effect by hackers in the 98 days to use your PC as a botnet or storage for shit like child porn. Cleaned up many a PC plugged in over dialup that was unwittingly serving nasty shit to God knows who and full of trojans. I'm very glad that Windows actually gives a damn about security on file sharing now and by default isolates a user PC from the world at large.
@cryptearth
@cryptearth 4 жыл бұрын
well - it still is, you just have to use users with set passwords as no/empty passwords isn't just allowed - but if you keep this in mind it's still very easy (also, when you have a fresh install mostly sharing works without passwords - but for some odd reason that can be screwed easy and then somehow require passwords - didnt found a way back without reinstall yet - so, mitigate this issue by set up a "remote-access" user from the get go)
@cryptearth
@cryptearth 4 жыл бұрын
@@johndunlap9139 not really - it just started to enforce user accounts having a password - when you set up a "remote-access" user with a password right after a fresh install and keep using this its the same as using ssh on unix when mount remote (as I have only little knowledge using unix shares based on ssh instead of smb its still easier)
@JohnDavidDunlap
@JohnDavidDunlap 4 жыл бұрын
I use SFTP for all of my file sharing needs these days. Works flawlessly.
@pparadigm
@pparadigm 4 жыл бұрын
A nice refresher, it's been a while since using 10Base2 Ethernet!
@NetITGeeks
@NetITGeeks 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.... This is very informative and probably the best video on retro networking tech.
@MidnightPixies
@MidnightPixies 4 жыл бұрын
I LIKE YOUR VIDEOS , it gives me nostalgia
@Pisit2799p18
@Pisit2799p18 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, I have never seen network setup with BNC connector before. I try googling to that setup but I can't find it. Thank you very much to showing that setup.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Make sure to subscribe for more content !
@MrMackster01
@MrMackster01 4 жыл бұрын
That’s super cool, thanks for doing this; I’ve recently set up an FTP server on a Linux box which I was using to share files for my MS Dos machine but I like your idea better
@ismail3404
@ismail3404 3 жыл бұрын
keren sekali bos, aku pernah ngalamin 2000an, waktu kuliah windows 3.1 workgroup.
@w9gb
@w9gb Жыл бұрын
“ThinNet” (10-Base-2) Ethernet (50 ohm terminators using RG-58/U coaxial cable) First worked with in 1983 with 3Com cards in IBM PCs and XTs workstations (Business college Lab). The File server was Altos 986 (10 MHz, 8086) running a version of Xenix and 3Com software (adopted by MS). Wordstar and SuperCalc initial applications, later replaced by Word Perfect and Lotus 1-2-3.
@brothersinmetal1922
@brothersinmetal1922 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man! Keep it up great content and its all well put together.
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 5 жыл бұрын
Cheapernet. That takes me back. I did my first home network in BNC when a 10mb/sec RJ45 hub was stupid money. As the cards had BNC anyway a couple of lengths of cable, tee pieces and terminators later I was done and was able to share my internet.
@typingcat
@typingcat 5 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in upgrading my 28.8 kilobaud Internet connection to a 1.5-megabit fiber-optic T1 line. Will you be able to provide an IP router that's compatible with my token-ring Ethernet LAN configuration?
@revoltosotintan
@revoltosotintan 4 жыл бұрын
can you give me some money ?
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 4 жыл бұрын
Been a long time since I've used 10base2. Got plenty of coax cable, but when we moved to 10baseT, we never looked back.
@nunopinto5200
@nunopinto5200 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this, BNC stands for British naval connectors if my memory don't fail me. :)
@somegreenguy
@somegreenguy 5 жыл бұрын
very interesting stuff, I was aware that BNC cables were once used for networking, but I never exactly knew how, I guess I always figured it was the same as ethernet still a very interesting concept, but I can see why BNC networking didn't really take off
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
yeah ... you didn't want to be the person to leave early during a LAN party :)
@bobblum5973
@bobblum5973 5 жыл бұрын
BNC coax cables predate twisted pair, fiber optic and wireless, they are all Ethernet, just on different physical media. Prior to the smaller BNC cables ("thin net" or "cheaper net") there was a larger diameter coax ("thick net") which was the original Ethernet, it used "N" connectors. Both coax cables are 50-ohm nominal impedance; you should *never* use 75-ohm coax for this purpose.
@Roadsguy
@Roadsguy 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a particular reason why the tee connectors and terminator plugs are required on the edge machines, rather than simply plugging the cables directly into those two cards? (Obviously the tee is needed on the middle card.)
@tornadotj2059
@tornadotj2059 4 жыл бұрын
Because you need a terminator (resistor) or you'd get reflections back across the network.
@azzajohnson2123
@azzajohnson2123 4 жыл бұрын
What accent do you have? Thanks for the nostalgia. Fucken loved bringing networks down nefariously at school back in the day by flogging a terminator resistor off the bus network. I remembered how slow all the computers would grind down to back in the days of hubs when you had a collision causing device. Ahhh the good old hub days and CSMACD.
@DaxtonAnderson
@DaxtonAnderson 5 жыл бұрын
15:15 triggered my google home lol
@bbertram2
@bbertram2 Жыл бұрын
oh man, tried this back in the day for some Doom or Duke at home. Never got it to work right.
@OltScript313
@OltScript313 4 жыл бұрын
It's the "Ultimate DOS Machine" of Druaga1 4:00
@larryladeroute971
@larryladeroute971 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I have a pile of network cards like these that I was wondering if I should use. Is it possible to add an XP machine?
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... also supports the same protocols and should work.
@bobblum5973
@bobblum5973 5 жыл бұрын
Get an older Macintosh and network card, run AppleTalk/EtherTalk on it as well, then a Windows 2000 machine with the AppleTalk protocol loaded, too! 😉
@BenHelweg
@BenHelweg 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title I was hoping you might use token ring, but still very cool.
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 3 жыл бұрын
14:06 Of course, the proper driver is included in the WIN 98 CD because that card is old as molasses (somewhat old even back then). This was not the typical experience when you installed new hardware.
@DigosTecnologia
@DigosTecnologia Жыл бұрын
tnx my dear, this video gave me good memories.
@amberselectronics
@amberselectronics 5 жыл бұрын
Any idea who makes that 486 case? I have one here just like it and I've always wondered.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
No markings on the case so I have no idea .... think there are lots of "clones" also for that particular type of case. Lots of different companies that created them.
@kobold7763
@kobold7763 4 жыл бұрын
I love windows 98, it gives me fond Columbine flashbacks :)
@RaysGamingChannel2003
@RaysGamingChannel2003 Жыл бұрын
Will there been another video of this but with Modern and retro computers too
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 4 жыл бұрын
Memories. I remember school PC's using co-axial ethernet as late as 1998! We used to laugh at how outdated it all seemed, this was the time we were having lanparties and playing Quake at home, this old-tech still being used in school seemed so far out of date. Must have been a nightmare to administer as well - big networks of computers all daisy chained together like this.
@drzeissler
@drzeissler 5 жыл бұрын
Using the MSclient on my A2286 in my A2000 :)
@pietry
@pietry 5 жыл бұрын
nice video, thanks so much!
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Pietry Couto thanks a lot. Glad you enjoyed it. Feel free to subscribe and let me know what else you like to see here...
@MrHooves89
@MrHooves89 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@miloud-en
@miloud-en 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice channel ! ! !
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much .... glad you enjoyed it !
@BandanazX
@BandanazX 5 жыл бұрын
No IPX/SPX? Run both NetBEUI and IPX/SPX if you want... but leaving off IPX/SPX doesn't make sense since it was the dominant protocol of that era. I wouldn't use NetBEUI at all.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Think for filesharing netbeui is fastests and simplests. Could not get ipx filesharing to work with win 3.11. So left it out to keep memory footprint lower. (Have a follow up planned on xt based networking and ipx/spx gaming)
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
If you have any ideas why ipx/spx didn't want to play with 3.11 feel free to pitch some ideas : www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=69074
@BandanazX
@BandanazX 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroSpector78 It's only been about 20 years so I've forgotten the details. But I think you need to check the bindings and make sure you have NetBIOS over IPX/SPX. But I used NetWare clients at the time so that could be why it worked.
@BandanazX
@BandanazX 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroSpector78 IIRC NetBEUI was the slowest networking protocol. At the very least, it wasn't routable, unlike IPX/SPX (and TCP/IP obviously).
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 5 жыл бұрын
IPX/SPX was mainly used in corporate environments. NetBEUI was easy to set up and was what home networks tended to use.
@expertshooter2055
@expertshooter2055 4 жыл бұрын
I’m probably the only one that could have a use for that ms dos computer
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
Think some viewers here might beg to differ :)
@harryshuman9637
@harryshuman9637 4 жыл бұрын
Can you explain how one can make a setup for the LAN boot option usually found in BIOS?
@Blurredman
@Blurredman 4 жыл бұрын
Qestion, as I have never set up BNC. But why could you not connect the end of the lead directly to the NIC instead of through a t-piece but with a termination on the other side of the T ??
@zoidburg3
@zoidburg3 4 жыл бұрын
This made me so happy
@budi0251
@budi0251 4 жыл бұрын
IIRC, there were dos utility called laplink to connect 2 dos pc via serial or parallel port and to access shared file/folder. CMIIW. I used to play quake 1 with my friends using serial cross cable from dos, as well as some old dos games like duke3d and doom 1/2 working nicely. Sharing from dos? What about "net share" command? Sorry, my memories were a bit rusty, been more than 2 decades since the last time I played with dos networking.
@cephvideo
@cephvideo 4 жыл бұрын
Great work...
@trollsthatlol1
@trollsthatlol1 4 жыл бұрын
Windows 98
@jsmythib
@jsmythib 4 жыл бұрын
Command and Conquer bnc LAN parties...no laptops..everyone dragged out their crt's and desktop boxes. Good times :)
@danielfoca
@danielfoca 4 жыл бұрын
Great Job!
@mariannmariann2052
@mariannmariann2052 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this was retro Minecraft network!
@assafcohen3173
@assafcohen3173 4 жыл бұрын
You've done ALL this and didn't do some sort of speed test? com'on!
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
Have a couple of follow up videos in mind ... goal here was to just show the basic setup of file-sharing using different machine generations. Not so much performance measurements as it will be heavily impacted by the client machine also. But have a couple of follow up videos planned. So I hope you stay tuned for those ....
@TrolleyMC
@TrolleyMC 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video showing how to properly setup a Windows NT Domain?
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely on my radar yes. Have the perfect machine for some NT 4.0 magic
@TrolleyMC
@TrolleyMC 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroSpector78 Sweet! Looking forward to it!
@BEAMERNOOB
@BEAMERNOOB 4 жыл бұрын
Why can’t you use one t connector in the middle and just connect to the two ends to the other two cards?
@torquesoftware
@torquesoftware 4 жыл бұрын
It cannot be setup like that. It wouldn't understand where the termination ends.
@matthewday7565
@matthewday7565 3 жыл бұрын
I thought, great, for my retro tinkering I'll set up a Raspi servers... nope, NETBEUI and Linux don't mix well - one obsolete project, so can DOS networking talk SMB over TCP/IP?
@andreasreich9585
@andreasreich9585 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. I am a bit confused. You delete the IPX and keep the TCP IP. Why not keep both oder delete both? I love the ipx Protocol. I had a BNC Network with my friends in my house and the neighbour house. About 8 PC running Windows 3.11 and Windows 3.1 over BNC. Works great. And i played Dos games over IPX also great future. I shared also Printers. Later i mix up BNC and TP Network over and BNC Hub. You know Winchat and Winpopup? I LOVE the old network. Mush more easy to share files like on Windows 10. It is annoying how much clicks you must do on Windows 10 machines :-(
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
Probably an error during the editing. Had an issue with ipx/spx as I could not get it to work with windows 3.11 Netbeui worked fine. Did not want to bother with tcp/ip in this video as netbeui is the easiest protocol to setup for file/printer sharing in this environment. Ipx/spx is indeed great for msdos gaming.
@AM-sd7iz
@AM-sd7iz 4 жыл бұрын
BNC connectors for your network?
@procta2343
@procta2343 5 жыл бұрын
great stuff! Get some old school domain server on there! 3.51server !!
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, glad you liked it. The 3.51 box is on the shelf .... but wanted to keep things simple. I do have a nice HP Netserver (pentium 100 or 166) that would make a great nt 4.0 server.
@redsquirrelftw
@redsquirrelftw 4 жыл бұрын
Or setup Novell Netware. :D
@procta2343
@procta2343 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroSpector78 it wont be that much harder at all, MSDOS system maybe tricky mind, windows 3.11 you just tell it to log onto NT domain, and the windows 9x system you just rename the workgroup, with the same name as the domain.
@jbs.
@jbs. 4 жыл бұрын
i remember trying this stuff back and the day, and the peer-to-peer stuff never worked.
@thepepishow9878
@thepepishow9878 4 жыл бұрын
mmmm i see the bijenkorf we have to say than G E C O L O N I S E E R D
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 4 жыл бұрын
People seem to be drawn to the box. You’re the third or fourth one to notice it :)
@thepepishow9878
@thepepishow9878 4 жыл бұрын
RetroSpector78 love the store
@NewsmakersTech
@NewsmakersTech 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! We have been working to collect network cards for our systems. We are looking to do some testing with Windows for Workgroups.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
Nice ... fortunately network cards should be fairly easy to come by ... Good luck with your testing and check back if you have any issues. Just noticed your Tandy video ... you should check with kzbin.info as they are doing a Tandy series in September and think they want other people to join
@McIntec
@McIntec 5 жыл бұрын
How bout a classic windows NT Domain Network? 👍😎
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
McInTEC it will come soon :)
@McIntec
@McIntec 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroSpector78 I remember my school running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain with Windows 95, later 98. And I wanted to know how networking worked and how a Windows Domain worked. Long story short, I had a hard time finding (P2P) NT 4.0. I ended up getting Windows 2000 Server instead and learned Active Directory. I did learn policy editor for 9x systems using poledit. I collected many old PCs and a lot of the old ISA nic cards had BNC connectors along with RJ-45. But at that stage everything was using Ethernet so I never had the chance to do or learn this network topology.
@someguystudios23
@someguystudios23 4 жыл бұрын
*school time*
@procta2343
@procta2343 4 жыл бұрын
@@McIntec NT 4 domain controllers just work out of the box once the installation of the OS is done, as you can install the services there and then. You still have to play with the odds and sods like you do with windows 2000 etc. Windows 3.51 server is not that different to windows NT4 server either, just as easy but with the 3.x desktop, which you can really thin down. Have a play about and you will have some fun! I use RJ- 45 3com network cards for ease. Plus you can have a go at some old school remote booting too.
@PabloLungrin
@PabloLungrin 5 жыл бұрын
Great video dude. Can you share all the drivers of the ne2000 adapters?
@Natomon01
@Natomon01 5 жыл бұрын
4:00 I had that same case! 😆
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
to me this is one of the most iconic cases of that era ... I really love it, and especially because in this particular config it has about all of the possible colors that you could find in the nineties :)
@someguystudios23
@someguystudios23 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that turbo button tho...
@Natomon01
@Natomon01 4 жыл бұрын
@@someguystudios23 Mine was always getting stuck.
@someguystudios23
@someguystudios23 4 жыл бұрын
@@Natomon01 oof
@ALN2006
@ALN2006 5 жыл бұрын
woow, nice, my dream is to create lan with old PCs from 2003 but max specs and run server and play old games, all hardware period correct and games
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 5 жыл бұрын
ΛLN pc’s from 2003 shouldn’t be that difficult to find. The older ones (286, 386) are more challenging. How did you end up finding this video. Saw a huge spike in views today.
@kaczan3
@kaczan3 4 жыл бұрын
So many "trees" in this video ;)
@nikize
@nikize 4 жыл бұрын
The win 98SE PC, with the Win95 Box!? *confused* - just skip the box to not confuse!
@System-br1tx
@System-br1tx 4 жыл бұрын
schools : _Ill take your entire stock_
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