Creationist pretends to know science, says proteins have to be in a bubble... of proteins 🤦‍♂️

[@TheistsTapOut]

Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 3:40 Does Ed have ANY education in microbiology or biochemistry??? 7:08 Basic Biochemical Misunderstandings 8:03 No, peptide bonds are NOT fragile 11:49 Ed thinks that water molecules physically break peptide bonds, not chemically 14:56 Peptide bonds are not called alpha bonds 23:19 Polypeptides become enzymes/proteins after 50 amino acids? No. 25:50 There isn't a bubble of chaperone proteins 27:51 He thinks ribozymes cannot self-reproduce because it's "folded" 29:14 Won't accept citations if it's talking about "man-made" experiments (also discussion about RNA) 36:31 Just because something's not found in nature currently doesn't make it impossible 43:01 Ed can't correctly cite things 44:08 Ed is a James Tour fanboy 47:20 Talking about Apot and other trolls 51:08 The evolution of the eye 59:32 Cannot correctly read science papers 1:02:15 No, I did not block ED, he just doesn't know how KZbin comments work 1:10:47 Moderators can feel free to remove any future comments from Ed 1:17:48 How does Ed not know penguins have feathers??? 1:28:27 Is it worthwhile doing a special session for future guests? 1:31:03 Closing

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

👍🍻

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

Are you really going to have Diva on the next show?

[@TheistsTapOut]

@@ookekklibarianbornagain6708 Stephan wants to take him on. So we will see how it goes. I’ll moderate to keep him from just bible babbling.

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@TheistsTapOut You're going have to us the mute button with Diva, he is not going to stop preaching. Look at how Diva's acting in the comment on AXP, all Caps & he even has moved to bold text.

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

I say it every week, huge bloody thanks to Queue Cee. And let's all try to find people who are brave enough to come and have a chat with us. Plus 2days show was a rather nice chat, with just the right amount of education and fun😁

[@mirandarensberger6919]

To address Blarg's concern about prions on surgical instruments, the data I found say that prion infections affect 1-2 people per million worldwide annually. That rarity is why it's still considered safe to resterilize most instruments, even from neuro cases. The temperature needed to melt steel is high enough to destroy prions, so any instrument with any possibility of prion contamination is incinerated. But in day-to-day sterilization, what we're concerned about are bacteria, viruses, and fungi. Basically, prions are tough and scary, but the likelihood of encountering them is very low.

[@TheistsTapOut]

Yep. Very low chance of getting prions. Now let me go finish my dinner of cow brains... mmmm.😉

[@mirandarensberger6919]

@@TheistsTapOut That did used to be considered a delicacy...

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@mirandarensberger6919 thanks Miranda. I bow to your clearly superior understanding of this topic! 😁 I suspect that back during the BSE/vCJD outbreak there was more behaviour like what I described (particularly in England), being that this was a new and scary "pathogen", and health officials tend to err of the side is caution (for good reasons). It does make sense that as we learnt more and developed an detailed understanding of the prevalence, risks and costs, that we would relax the requirements. Thanks again for setting my understanding straight!

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@TheistsTapOut bleh! I'll eat just about anything (at least try it), but brains were always my the "nope" list.

[@mirandarensberger6919]

@@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 Exactly, Blarg. Like people bleaching their groceries at the beginning of the covid pandemic, because nobody was really sure about various ways it could spread, and everyone was scared. Now we know that's not necessary, but at the time people were trying to err on the side of caution.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Apologies for missing this. Caught a nasty cold 😷

[@nealjroberts4050]

You guys pretty much covered all his ignorance 👍

[@Tuna_Man2323]

@@nealjroberts4050 Ed-zactly. Ed is so amusingly wrong that he spews enough material for 2 lives.

[@nealjroberts4050]

@@Tuna_Man2323 I initially thought they might try the Tour approach and claim irreducible complexity without stating "irreducible complexity" but instead they decided to show off their lack of ed-ucation. Hmm, irr-ed- ucible?

[@mirandarensberger6919]

Hope you're feeling better!

[@nealjroberts4050]

@@mirandarensberger6919 Thank you! Yes, it's just down to tiredness and a skinflaky nose now 😎

[@nealjroberts4050]

I think I've cracked where the "alpha bond" nonsense comes from. The first image at 17:20 ish shows a bond highlighted in orange. The _handwriting_ text of "Peptide bond" is remarkably similar to Aphla bond" if you squint!

[@TheistsTapOut]

Interesting. But how bad must his confirmation bias be where he would ignore ALL the other places where it clearly says peptide bond and nowhere does it say it's called an alpha bond. He's never going to come in the comments and say that he made an error and didn't understand the meaning of the wiki when it called it an alpha peptide bond. But seeing how quiet the comments are, maybe he actually realized how stupendously wrong he is. But I highly doubt it. He's probably been too busy during the weekend as I know that when you are doing microbiology experiments, you sometimes have to work in the weekends. Right? Since he's so obviously a microbiologist? 😂

[@nealjroberts4050]

@@TheistsTapOut 😂😉

[@nealjroberts4050]

Pinguinis is Latin for fatty or plump. And Great Auks were fat birds.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

That sounds about right. 😁

[@Tuna_Man2323]

Great live session, thanks to Queue Cee and everyone on the panel, and in the comments.

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

2nd that🍻 I found it bloody funny the way Diva tried to engage with Crystal Clout aka She Who Must Be Obeyed, he is in for a sharp shock if he tries pushing She Who Must Be Obeyed too hard, I'm not even willing to do that🤣

[@mirandarensberger6919]

OK, now this is strange. I just posted a comment on the rarity of prion infections, and it immediately disappeared. I can't even see it when I sort by newest. KZbin is weird sometimes.

[@TheistsTapOut]

You are one of the approved users, so comments from you won't be blocked or filtered. So it's at the KZbin level.

[@mirandarensberger6919]

@@TheistsTapOut Yeah, that's what I figured. I'll try saying it a different way and see what happens.

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@mirandarensberger6919 It's showing up now, you might have blasphemed against the gods of YT 😁

[@mirandarensberger6919]

​@@ookekklibarianbornagain6708Yeah, it's my second attempt that's showing up. I can't think of anything in the first one that would have been a TOS violation; I did use an f-bomb, but that doesn't usually get me censored. I'll just chalk it up to a random glitch. (As opposed to wildly accusing QC of banning me, lol!)

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@mirandarensberger6919closely related to prion diseases are the ENORMOUS set of amaloid diseases (of which prions are a subset).

[@vertigo4236]

45:50 The correct term for that is "Fremdschämen". 😁

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

This post is for amtlpaul, but if any others who might like to try making their own Mushy peas. 500g bag frozen peas 2 sprigs fresh mint 2 tbsp pure cream 1 tbsp lemon juice Cook peas and mint in a large saucepan of boiling water for 5 minutes or until bright green and tender. Drain and toss the mint (I like it best with only one sprig of mint) Pop peas to a food processor. Add cream. Process until smooth. Add lemon juice. Season with salt and pepper. Zap till until combined to the texture you like. Then eat, hot or cold.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

Barely "zapped" is best... Chunky texture

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 Too right, bout 3 secs is all I need.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

@@ookekklibarianbornagain6708 my dad was funny with mushy peas on his pies; he LOVED LOVED LOVED them, but he HATED the pie squirting out the side when taking a bite even more. As such, he always said no, whenever the pie wasn't baked with the peas inside, to avoid having them cut off the lid to add peas. ☝️ This is literally the only thing he was ever fussy about. 🤣

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 I agree 100% with your dad, I happen to hold the view that a Pie Floater is one of the best food combinations on earth.

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

I've not seen any of Ed's comments here🤔 I've not removed any, has any done so?

[@TheistsTapOut]

I don't see any that a moderator has removed. So I presume that he's given up. Frankly, I'm not sure what he could dispute. Right from the beginning, we discuss a simple matter of fact that a fat is a lipid but a lipid isn't necessarily a fat. A triglyceride is a fat and is a lipid. I phospholipid is a lipid but is not a fat. And the whole discussion about no one calling a peptide bond as alpha bond. And the wiki itself makes it clear that it's an alpha PEPTIDE bond. NOT a peptide alpha bond.

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@TheistsTapOut It will be fun to see how he acts and if I recall Tour did something similar, re get the chem names wrong/mixing them up.

[@TheistsTapOut]

@@ookekklibarianbornagain6708 Even though there isn't much he can refute, I'm sure he will find something. He won't acknowledged all the things he got wrong, but he'll latch on to one thing or the other.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

Nope.

[@TheistsTapOut]

​@@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 Looks like he's run away. Should I create an alt account "@RunED"?😂