Credo III- Westminster Cathedral

[@michaelisichei3271]

worshiping God in the beauty and splendor of his holiness.... i love Latin mass, it brings one closer to eternity.

[@wouter064]

This is a perfect example of the glorious, magnificent liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church. It,s a shame and a pitty this liturgy has disappaered out of many catholic churches.......

[@RUOKH]

Could not agree more with your sentiments. We need to return to our old liturgy and roots, including Credo III each Sunday. Thank you.

[@mysticalmargaret6105]

I agree. I grew up in the 1970s and 80s. I left the Church for years. When I went back, I couldn't recognize nor hardly follow along with the liturgy nor the responses. Not a fan. And the modern 'music' I don't care for at all.

[@janettedavis6627]

The Roman Catholic Church was demolished from within and a Protestant Church was created.

[@mariaquinene1383]

I love Latin and I want it back to the mass. It is good for the soul ..🙏🙏🙏

[@RUOKH]

PLEASE, please, please, to all Cardinals of the World, let us have the old rite back in more churches as part of regular Sunday worship. It gives dignity and a sense of sacredness to the mundane, and there's plenty of 'mundane' in the Mass today. Thank you. Dona nobis Pacem.

I dont think this one is the old rite though. Not a single woman is wearing a veil. I think is a latin NO. From the comments above, I think this is the right conclusion.

[@RUOKH]

@ Correct. This clips is not the Old Rite, but still beautiful to listen to.

[@nanangsetiawan8027]

After the second Vatican Council, the Church changed. But many people are called to the Catholic Church because of the Traditional Latin Mass. Many traditions have now been discarded by them, the Traditional Latin Mass is our hope that Catholicism will remain alive. Let's pray to God that all the beautiful traditions like heaven will return

[@hudsonbailey674]

Credo III indeed lifts the worshipper upwards as well back to an innocence whence beliefs bled into our lives despite a preponderance of secularism. I savored liturgy in Westminster in days gone by.

[@Gregorianus37]

Beautiful, and the only time besides Mass in the usus antiquior I have seen an entire congregation genuflect at "Et incarnatus est..."

[@seaghanobuadhaigh8240]

only at Christmas and the Annunciation

[@seaghanobuadhaigh8240]

@Jean Cabrol "...and the only time besides Mass in the usus antiquior..." sets the context for my response. Pax tecum, frater.

[@seaghanobuadhaigh8240]

@Jean Cabrol I don't think you are thinking at all. I teach priests the rubrics.

[@larryjohnwong]

@Jean Cabrol I see insufficient theological evidence that the Novus Ordo Missae is not a true Mass. While I do see the Novus Ordo Missae is textually deficient to the Tridentine Mass, it is still a valid and licit missal. Call it banal, watered down, untraditional, Protestant-friendly, which I do agree; I do not find enough evidence to convince me it is an untrue (i.e. invalid) Mass. And I acknowledge that valid consecration does not mean valid Mass, nevertheless I still hold the view that the Novus Ordo Missae is valid. It is also not right to defame the priests who @Seaghan Ó Buadhaigh instructed without even knowing them personally. You wouldn't want people to call you child molester because you are a Catholic and a few Catholic priests molested children. Why would you then, call priests idolatrous (implied by Pachamama) just because they celebrate the Novus Ordo? False accusation is a sin.

[@WumboRagamuffin]

@Jean Cabrol not sure what that's all about but he's right, in the new missal, the genuflections at the et incarnatus est are only done on christmas and the annunciation.

[@akusitinovulakouvaki4887]

R.I.P Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor.

[@michaelisichei3271]

The solemnity of the worship lay bare the thoughts of eternity.

[@myrnadeperiolafauci7873]

I believe in GOD, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth and in Jesus Christ.

[@JulianneTure]

My High Church Episcopal parish began singing this setting of the Creed (in English) earlier this year. I love it!

[@wouter064]

Perfect!

[@carlosr.5980]

Maravilloso este Credo,

[@jansenepart]

Let's enjoy the beauty of it and nothing else ... this is cultural extreme beauty of the West both for believers and non believers ...

[@aaronsmedina]

How awesome!!!!

[@lucindabunda2106]

I go to yt ite missa est in Paris at 2 am PT for Sunday Mass. They have beautiful choir. This is tridentine Mass meaning 62 Mass like the SSPX etc.

[@makrinarini9451]

Amazing...credo

[@pedrosantana8202]

Maravilhoso!

[@skymningsdagar4044]

I just found out by asking a very gracious staff member of the Westminster Cathedral that the composer behind the polyphonic setting of the "Et incarnatus est"-section is de Lassus. Which mass it concerns remains a mystery, but I am digging through all of his recorded works to find which one it might be, though I'm afraid that it might be a mass which has never been recorded.

[@cantor128]

I am told it is Messe "Pilons pilons l'orge"

[@skymningsdagar4044]

@@cantor128: Yes, I read the same thing on musicasacra (a forum) just a day ago. There doesn't seem to be any recordings of the Mass in question though, with the exception of a recording of the Gloria and the Sanctus (which was truly wonderful stuff to hear). But maybe one complete recording will show up eventually. It's great that we finally know who the composer is and which Mass of his it concerns. I know many have been asking this question.

[@maryowusu7178]

@@skymningsdagar4044 nice

[@lucindabunda2106]

@@skymningsdagar4044 i am not a musician but I love learning from everybody here.

[@JulianneTure]

@@cantor128 I love that mass setting, and I wish some group would record it!

[@skyemcleod1]

Westminister Cathedral & Choir--How do I love thee?... I can't count the ways...You do all things WELL.

[@organisten]

thee is singular, if you use it. Ergo, if you are addressing Westminster Cathedral AND Choir, you should say "you".

[@seaghanobuadhaigh8240]

The gentleness of the 'est' in the 'homo factus est' is very moving.

[@skymningsdagar4044]

rogbi200, have you found out who's the composer behind the "Et incarnatus est"-section yet? I've searched through the Masses by Victoria to find this particular section but haven't managed to find it. I love it; it's such a serene, devotional expression of an almost wordless meditation before the great mystery of the eternal Son incarnate in Jesus Christ.

[@lawrencemomanyi]

It's from missa super pilons by orlando de lasso

[@auyantepui3243]

very good!

[@janicelivett8892]

Absolute beauty

[@genyve277]

Lindo demais !

[@이정민마리엘라]

Alleluia Amen 📿

[@sethsaint8394]

Still for God Almighty!

[@mysticalmargaret6105]

Ethereal! 💖

[@Verloove]

❤️

[@321gj]

Beautiful. How much better does Westminster Cathedral look with those horrible chandeliers turned off!

[@krystynamikorska300]

Gloria tibi, Domine.

[@lroccaro]

catholic, of course

[@krystynamikorska300]

Benedicamus Domino. Deo gratias.

[@user-lg4zi2sx7i]

It's sad that there ever was a Church of England , all because of a divorce . All the Anglican churches in England should have always stayed Catholic , such a shame because of sin and pride.

[@lucindabunda2106]

Tyburn ensued!

[@tomaszgrzebykpodrozezhisto5954]

This is catholic or anglican mass?

[@frchrisheffernan]

Tomasz Grzebyk Westminster Cathedral is Catholic and Westminster Abbey is Church of England.

[@frchrisheffernan]

Tomasz Grzebyk therefore it is Catholic

[@gs94131]

As far as I'm concerned Father, the Abbey is Catholic. C of E is only borrowing the space for the time being. Likewise for the other English cathedrals.

[@mosesking2923]

Sorry to burst the bubble but this is a Novus Ordo Mass LOL. A N.O. mass done with the grace that it always should have been done with.

[@mosesking2923]

Seems to me like you have a bias against the novus ordo mass, that all of them are performed with little piety. This video clearly shows how the Novus Ordo should be performed.

[@lucaslagasse]

The choir is anglican?

[@jannadrielcervo7753]

This is the Westminster Cathedral. It is a Catholic Church. The Westminster Abbey is an Anglican Church.

[@iriamaria9408]

Credo in

[@TheFalcao7]

divinal , porem fico com muito medo destes grandes artidtas infantis sofrerem agressões quanto a sua integridade .

[@iriamaria9408]

Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotentem, factorem caeli et terrae, visibilium omnium, et invisibilium. Et in unum Dominum Jesum Christum, Filium Dei unigenitum. Et ex Patre natum ante omnia saecula. Deum de Deo, Lumen de lumine, Deum verum de Deo vero. Genitum, non factum, consubstantialem Patri: per quem omnia facta sunt.

[@iriamaria9408]

Credo in unum Deum Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotentem, factorem caeli et terrae, visibilium omnium, et invisibilium. Et in unum Dominum Jesum Christum, Filium Dei unigenitum. Et ex Patre natum ante omnia saecula. Deum de Deo, Lumen de lumine, Deum verum de Deo vero. Genitum, non factum, consubstantialem Patri: per quem omnia facta sunt. Qui propter nos homines, et propter nostram salutem descendit de caelis. Et incarnatus est de Spiritu Sancto ex Maria Virgine: Et homo factus est. Crucifixus etiam pro nobis: sub Pontio Pilato passus, et sepultus est. Et resurrexit tertia die, secundum Scripturas. Et ascendit in caelum: sedet ad dexteram Patris. Et iterum venturus est cum gloria, judicare vivos et mortuos: cuius regni non erit finis. Et in Spiritum Sanctum, Dominum, et vivificantem: qui ex Patre Filioque procedit. Qui cum Patre et Filio simul adoratur, et conglorificatur: qui locutus est per Prophetas. Et unam sanctam catholicam et apostolicam Ecclesiam. Confiteor unum baptisma in remissionem peccatorum. Et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum. Et vitam venturi saeculi. Amen.