Jason, would you say that the fact the hive smelled of the resident queen worked in her favor? The introduced frame also was likely to have minimal pheromones from its original queen, as queens rarely if ever go into the supers, preferring to stay with the brood. Also - I am wondering if her being in the "crack" between the frame and the frame of the hive body meant they could not easily ball her up or sting her - giving her a little more time to get to know her. And congratulations this was not really a risk as she was a dead queen without bees - but it was a huge win. I don't think many beekeepers would have been able to overcome conditioning and habit on this one. Well done!
@1FishinAddict4 жыл бұрын
2 weeks ago I had a small nuke froze to dead. As I was cleaning, I laid the queen out in the sun on top of the metal lid she started to come alive. I took bees from another colony and put it in the small nuke along with her and they accepted her. She still laying and healthy.
@brucekellman8214 жыл бұрын
Jason, you are like our pastor. Betcha never heard that before. Just about the time I say " He's just preached the best message God has called him to preach and the following Sunday it's ALWAYS better! SAME with your video's brother!!! 👊 Can't hardly wait for next Sunday! FIRST GOD 🙌, then our preacher and then our BELOVED J.C. !!! ♥️🍯🐝 ANTICIPATION IS KILLIN' ME BRO!!! You may not be the most followed beekeeper on KZbin, but you're my go to FIRST! THANKS again Jason for all ur helpful, INTERESTING Beekeeping video's!
@oskypowers63724 жыл бұрын
Great job, Jason! You never know what's gonna happen with bees. These workers were so sweet and encouraging to the Queen. I think that says a lot about their temperament, AND your beekeeping ability. Great video! Thank you!🐝🍯🌞🌻🧡
@JBEESHoneyJoelBrutcher4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I think someone already mentioned it that Michael Palmer does this a lot. Takes a hive with a laying queen removes and introduces another laying queen right away. Bees don’t even know👍 Better to do something than nothing sometimes. Thanks Jason!!
@jimmyjapa63684 жыл бұрын
DUDE! ,,,,,,,,,,, I don't think the situation could have played out any better seriously I think you got that one I don't think I could have done it better myself. PRAISE GOD AMEN AMEN AND AMEN
@ShortBeakBudapest4 жыл бұрын
Jason, “Acceptance “. The time of year may have given you your success. I never did that. This is what I have done and then my findings. I had several queen less hives. I introduced a marked queen and she was accepted I thought. However, after a period of time approximately a month I went into the hive and I found either queen cells or a new queen. So I was shocked but happy that the hive was ok. This was done in late Spring. I ran this past bee keepers with 20 years of experience. They all described the same thing. The queen I introduced was not their queen. The bees tolerate and use this queen until things are just right to supersede her. They let her lay eggs and start to build brood. Then the bees take over. They supersede the queen. Build queen cells and make their own queen. Everyone of these bee keepers describe the scenario to me before I could finish the story. I thought I was home free but only bought some time. This is what these keepers suggested. When you have a queen less hive. Place a brood frame into the colony from another hive with eggs. Let the bees make their own queen and you are good. The problem with this method is twofold. You need to have resources and you have to hope the virgin queen returns after mating. I did not have enough hives to do this more than once. I had to merge 2 hives or 2 Nucs with the newspaper trick. Then things were ok. In another instance, I had an Africanized hive. I gave them an Italian queen after a long period of time. I was going to let them die out. But I gave it one more shot. The bees were old enough to save the hive but we’re old enough to die off while the new brood was emerging and carrying on. This hive could not supersede the queen. Her bees are hers. I have learn to believe all these stories from bee keepers. There are so many things that the bees do to survive that it generates so many different scenarios.
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
What you say makes sense but this queen is still alive. Since she is marked with a red dot it's easy to tell it's her. She's a laying machine now.
@m.scotthern63064 жыл бұрын
Looks like she could use some bare comb to lay in. I think I would give her a hive tool test if she isn't laying. Take a frame with some eggs out of that strong hive and let them make a new queen.
@chrisbgarrett4 жыл бұрын
I'd freeze the frames and make a new split come spring.
@ronfults38444 жыл бұрын
From what I've seen bees know immediately when they are queenless. Pull a frame out of a give with the queen on it and watch the reaction. The colony will start roaring. Put the frame with the queen back in and they will calm down.
@waynewatson-cedarbranchhiv84914 жыл бұрын
Thats rite !!! , alot of time when i do splits, first thing i do is separate boxes on a double , an within 3 to 5 min, you'll know what box the queen is in, thell be quite an other box will be noisy 👍
@arendey44464 жыл бұрын
From what I learned from Michael Palmer, bees care about 2 things where New queens are concerned: Laying Queen / Non Laying queen. They will almost always accept a laying queen right away (Mike Palmer says its something like 90-95% acceptance). Saw this in the *"Brood Factories and Bee Bombs"* (Part 1 & 2) or a video called *"beemeetingpalmer04012016"* , it could be another video, its been a while and I watched every Mike Palmer video I could get my eyes on, making hard to remember exactly which one I saw this in, but that should point you in the right direction. Another video I highly recommend is *"Queen Rearing in the Sustainable Apiary"* . I learned a LOT from these videos.
@arendey44464 жыл бұрын
Found the video and time stamp: it is called *"an Interview with Michael Palmer"* at the 34m40s mark on a small channel called Greg Willis.
@jenniferespiritu10654 жыл бұрын
I had pretty much done the same with great success! My late season nuke was failing and I stole a frame of brood, nurse bees and resources and I put in her existing box. We were expecting snow so I was very short on time. that night I could NOT sleep and thought that I should have at least waited 24hrs and make them queenless. I thought for sure that she was going to be dead. However everything went well and to my surprise doing good so far. I will inspect them today with warmer weather. I did smoke the heck out of them and lightly sprayed with 2:1 with pro bee additive.
@badassbees36804 жыл бұрын
You can almost always give bees a laying Queen and they will accept her,because she smells right she looks right and she acts right like a laying Queen, now I caged Queen sent in the mail is no longer Laying so you have to introduce her, but you could take a Laying Queen out of a hive and put another one right back in and they don't care as long as its a LAYING queen, you just cant take a laying Queen out and give them a non laying Queen they see it as a dud, but being since neither of these where laying it may have worked out the same way? Neat stuff nice save
@decaturridgebees87614 жыл бұрын
Right, and thats probably a good indicator that she’s a good queen still even though she was alone
@danschneider92194 жыл бұрын
That queen with no bees is not a laying queen
@researcherAmateur4 жыл бұрын
Right. She just nide sum more bees. Save her, the time is wright to doo it ize
@FeralHomestead4 жыл бұрын
Baddest Bees I agree, I have put laying queens right into my hives and they are accepting almost always
@massachusettsprepper4 жыл бұрын
@ Baddest Bees I have seen this go both ways. I received a Queen in the mail one time and I did not have the time to introduce her properly so I just released her into the colony and she was accepted. But I have also seen where I've tried this and she was balled up immediately. The hive that accepted the Queen had been queenless for about five days. The hive that did not accept the Queen was one that I was re-Queening because of anger issues. So I killed the old Queen introduced the new one. Did not work so well. But I do agree 100% brother that they will accept a laying Queen almost every time.
@dagandreassen84464 жыл бұрын
I have seen that been done by one in our club when suddenly all bee's left a new introduced queen so they took a frame with brood and pollen super frame from another strong hive and it took 2 days before she started to lay eggs. So I think bee's understand if a queen is alone because I think she realises other feromon som the new bee's will accept her. Well done Jason 👍🐝
@douglassutherland46464 жыл бұрын
Baddest bees, you are so right, because I had a really nasty natured muddy beige queen come in a cast, so I built them up, but soon they were coming after me when I was working with my apple trees some distance away. I had a home raised black queen in a mating nuke which was producing good brood. I caught the black queen in a cage and opened the wild ones. Boy did they let me have it--42 stings before I could catch the wild one up in another cage. I put the black one straight onto the same spot as the beige one had been laying and she started laying right away. I placed the beige one in the small nuke which the black one had come from and she kept laying well. I left them alone for a month and gradually the wild hive quietened right down. I then got rid of the beige one as her brood were nasty and gave them an open queen cell to finish off.
@thomaslinse57164 жыл бұрын
According to Michael Palmer, he does this frequently with success. As long as the queen hasn’t been banked or mailed, you should be good to go.
@ayhandargin87954 жыл бұрын
Moving some of the worker bees from their hive to somewhere else, to a hive with a queen might be the reason why they accept her. Workers are aware that they are not in their home, so their “protecting home” instinct doesn’t kick. They are guests not host.
@nynotetis4 жыл бұрын
It works even in warm weather. Try to change the old bee queen (for example in the end of summer, in normal strong bee hive) just by picking her up to the cage and put new (mated) bee queen on the same frame, similar place, You will be suprised how smoothly it works ;)
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
@Tautvydas Vaiciunas Guess I need to try it. Thanks!
@Digger9274 жыл бұрын
@@JCsBees If you do you'll lose a queen, the new queen would need to be taken directly from laying in a frame or preferably just take her and her frame of brood and put her in the new hive. You can't take a caged queen and exchange her for a laying queen in a hive. Once a queen is caged she'll start regressing immediately and needs an introduction process.
@BESHYSBEES4 жыл бұрын
Jason Chrisman I’m with Brent she will 9 of 10 times be balled
@BESHYSBEES4 жыл бұрын
Jason Chrisman the only time I’ve had what Tautvydas Vaiciunas is saying work, is when my old queen is old, old like 4-5 yrs old I’ve even had two queens of different breeds living and laying one box, this happened only a couple weeks ago, in spring I accidentally put an a red marked queen in with a white marked queen and both were living happy together all spring and summer, when I pulled a frame out I saw my red queens paint wearing off so I went to mark her again and as I was putting her back I spotted the other white queen they were on opposite sides of the same frame, so I pulled her out and gave her to a queenless colony I had just previously inspected she is 4 and laying ok 👍 not a full edge to edge patter but a decent one for 4 yrs old
@nynotetis4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I didn't emphasize that it has to be laying queen, not caged one for long time (a day or for several), but with laying queen (took from nucleus nearby) it works just fine. And of course you changing old queen (as I already wrote earlier) with new one, that adds too. In fact in late summer - the beggining of autumn when I want to change old queen - I just put on top (or on bottom, it depends) a smaller bee hive with young mated queen and next season 95 % of queens will be successufully changed. Of course I'm talking about apiary operations in larger scale.
@MikeChamplin4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it made a difference that you added bees to a hive already loaded with her pheromones so the new bees adapted. Adding a queen to an existing hive - she has to displace the legacy pheromones of the existing queen. Just a thought
@bryanroberts4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!!
@kat26414 жыл бұрын
I also thought the same think.. because putting her in vrs putting in the bees. Basically it was her home they are guests ;-)
@enjoynaturehoney4 жыл бұрын
I did this with a frame of brood covered with bees from a other hive and directly placing the queen on the frame and it work everytime🙂👍I leaned this from B&K bees I guarantee that this work ✍.
@decaturridgebees87614 жыл бұрын
I love this video JC! Thanks for showing us! Also, cool thing to note at around 12:44 just to the right of the queen the worker bee has a mite on her that’s visible
@13Dare134 жыл бұрын
Decatur Ridge Bees minor dose of OAV
@andrewklahold28804 жыл бұрын
I think your right had to do with the cold and i think also the amount of bees
@northernmichiganbee-man31364 жыл бұрын
Great video Jason! I spray the new worked bees and frame with sugar water and never have had an issue with them killing a queen as I use this method a lot with my brood factories I use to boost my smaller colonies
@paulschaefer52414 жыл бұрын
Recently I saw one of your videos where you talked about planning a myth buster video. I was wondering, one of the other channels I listened to the person talked of honeybees canibilizing their brood during the dearth, have you ever experienced that or heard of it. I find no other claims of that and can find no reference.
@meirchanan75874 жыл бұрын
Jason, Thanks for sharing this very interesting experiment. Just my opinion, but in small population ( one frame ) bad news should take less time to spread. in fully populated strong hive of course it takes much longer. also depends on percentage of young bees, since they tend to accept any queen easier than older bees.
@emmuealhird50754 жыл бұрын
Sir I think your videos are excellent to learn from. You are a natural teacher and I wish I knew you personally. I don't have much experience with bees. I am a wanna bee. So I cant provide an opinion on what you did with this queen. Im learning. I anxiously await the next video.
@strutt014 жыл бұрын
That observation hive might be a weapon against mites. I heard mites cannot stand light. Seems like the worker bees don't mind it. But the queen might just from how she acted in this video. If that would be the case, maybe try a see through hive, the queen might hide in the shadows during the day then lay eggs at night? Mites stay away?
@szcze3 жыл бұрын
If mites cannot stand light then workers that are in the field all day must have no mites on them, but they do...
@stufarnham4 жыл бұрын
my guess is that the observation hive was full of the queen's pheremones. In that situation she was not conflicting with the other queen's scent. Yor comment about taking a chance on the only option makes perfect sense. If You did nothing she was doomed. You went with thwe only option that might work. Better to go with an option that MIEGHT work instead of choosing certain failure. Glad it is working!
@WoolieBsApiary4 жыл бұрын
i did that 2 years ago and they balled her i went and put 1 drop of lemongrass oil on the end of a straw and i blew it into the observation hive. they quit balling the queen and she became the queen and lived until last month when i cleaned the observation hive and she flew off and did not go back the the window so after a week i went and stole a queen from one of my 2 frame mating nucs and introduced her. oh and i keep 1 inch blue foam insulation on my observation hive during the winter and she lays about a baseball size cluster all winter long.
@mtnmyke4 жыл бұрын
Michael Palmer claims you can swap a laying queen with a laying queen with no problem. I tested this last week by taking a large split and adding a queen from a small nuc. She walked right in and 3 days later I saw her laying eggs. I've never followed the 24hr queenless rule and have never had a problem - as long as they aren't banked or mailed.
@danschneider92194 жыл бұрын
Happend to me last spring, had a hive bees, crawling out and dying in the snow it was down to a dozen bees when I found the queen on top of the mountain camp sugar. took a small number if bees on frames from a healthy hive let her crawl right down in . I call her my Saved Queen Had to save her again she did so good I had to shake her out of a tree.
@StickyDankFingers4 жыл бұрын
Two Side questions .... I know the queen doesn’t lay much this time of year but my understanding is that she is laying a minimal amount through the winter or certainly now that we are in March. With that said, whether true or not, 1) there didn’t seem to be a lot of empty comb space for her to lay and I couldn’t tell from the video ... but was there bee bread / natural pollen stores ?? 2) how does the inside temps affect their hive activity this time of year in terms of eating stores and the queen laying? Do you shelter the bees from light when you are not “observing” ?? Thank you Brett
@CoastalGardening4 жыл бұрын
I think the reason it went well is because you added workers to a queens hive and not the other way around . Her smell was already saturated in the observation hive before the new workers were added . She wasn't the new kid on the block , the workers were in a new environment and not protecting their home turf . Hope they do great =)
@robertjackson96014 жыл бұрын
I did this exact same thing friday. Had a box queenless for a couple week. 1/2 frame of bees. I had another box with a handfull of bees and a huge cordovan queen. Took that frame with her on it and place in queenless box. Had a third box with 2, 1/2 frames of bees no queen shook infront of box with queen. This afternoon checked by popping lid. There clustered so i left alone for now. Will check later in the week. Figured she was going to die anyhow
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
Best of luck!
@farmer9984 жыл бұрын
they were just glad to bee in out of the cold may bee because you put them in her hive and not the other way around ,the cold might have been it.enjoy your videos
@437AlBig4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Jason. I'm really interested in the observation hive you made. Do you keep bees in there all year long in your house, or do you move it to a garage or someplace similar? Any measurements to share?
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I haven't used the OB hive much the last couple years but I used to keep it active year round. Where you seen it is where is always stays. I will see what I can do for a video with some measurements. Hang tight!
@scottlealand9464 жыл бұрын
Interesting...wonder why she let the original colony dwindle down to nothing. Would've thought that she would have laid some eggs, at least enough to ensure survival...
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
My guess is lack of resources like pollen. I offered them a piece of pollen patty too but they never moved to it. Over time it dried up. Hope there is nothing wrong with queen but I guess time will tell.
@irishcoffee68944 жыл бұрын
Think you're right. Because of the low(er) temperature the outside queen doesn't lay eggs. Probably the Pheromones have to do something with laying. Not laying less pheromones less recognision ???
@konradrueb15674 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason.in past 3 weeks i merged 2 dink hives one queenless other had a queen .used news paper but got cold again then warmed up a few days later .i had state inspector coming in a few days so i opened up and found they hadnt merged thru paper.so i just removed it . The inspector and i found the queen and she was brooding up.as of last night i remove extra honey frames in all my hive and put pails on with more pollen patties she,s hammering away . I wonder if the cold does lower the fermone?? No matter what its interesting if i could only speak apis mellifra!!🤔🐝safe and keep your smoker lit!!! Konrad
@bradgoliphant4 жыл бұрын
I did not see anywhere for the queen to lay in that observation hive.
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
There was space she was just being picky. lol Believe it or not though but this queen started laying like crazy once transferred to the nuc. I actually ended up selling her in one of my nucs this summer.
@timrussell50784 жыл бұрын
Would have rather seen you put some brood in there instead of honey because that would be more bees and give her a place to lay quicker than waiting on them to eat or move the honey
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
Actually they do now. They have cleaned up some of the cells with crystallized sugar in them. The reason I didn't add brood is I was more concerned about getting more bees in OB hive to care for queen. Plus it was only 36° and raining at the time.
@romoshka14 жыл бұрын
It’s been my experience when a hive is in a keeper-produced queenless situation it’s almost instantly obvious. To test it do a walk away split... just take a 10 frame hive and split it into 2 nucs. Within a minute or two you will hear a roaring from one split...It’s queenless. I intend to do this this year and just release a marked queen into the roaring hive after 1 hour. Come back the next day to see what happened.
@ronmimnaugh76744 жыл бұрын
I have seen more than a couple of videos suggesting that the nurse bees will take to a queen much easier than the older bees.
@Kafue4 жыл бұрын
Watched the entire video as though I had PAID for it! That's how darn good this was! Thanks JC. I don't have even a percentile of your knowledge yet, however, your assumption as to why they accepted the queen so fast seems to make sense. I would add, keeping in mind my shallow knowledge, that the other reason is that you changed the worker bees location/hive box & just added a frame with them on, into a new environment with the new queen already in this. So they were probably aware they were no longer in their home hive. Maybe... Thanks again Mate!
@brianhenry43624 жыл бұрын
I have a hive that has lost the queen over winter. There is still a nice cluster of bees and there are no queen’s available right now. What do I do. Thanks Jason for what you do, love your videos
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
I'd hang tight and wait for queens to be available. Best of luck!
@mattrhoades29134 жыл бұрын
Jason. I use a hand dolly to move my hives around it works very well. Thanks. Have a great and wonderful day
@samshafer12824 жыл бұрын
I was thinking maybe your donor bees were above a queen excluder in their original hive. I was wondering if perhaps they had been some distance from their original Queen and not strongly influenced by her pheromones. Kind of like bees raising queens in a queenright finisher colony.
@thomasbacon4 жыл бұрын
I think the bees came from a hive with a laying queen and we're introduced to another laying queen, so there was no problem. No if she had been caged for a day prior to introduction then she wouldn't have been a laying queen and it may have been a different outcome. I also think my Carhartt sleeves are slightly more frayed than yours....boy once they go, they go.
@vinofarm4 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Glad to see that worked. I just realized I need an observation hive in my house.
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
@Vino Farm Thanks, me too! I agree you do need a OB hive in your house. All beekeepers should have one. With a good season I get 2 splits from it alone each year.
@TheOffGridGranda4 жыл бұрын
I realise its very early in the season but there's not empty cells for the queen to lay any brood. The hive looks honey bound. A frame of drawn comb with a crescent of food instead of the bottom frame might encourage her to lay and the bees to reslly accept her
@T0tenkampf4 жыл бұрын
Not entirely applicable here but I have been taught that nurse bees will more readily accept a new queen so if this happens during warm weather and you are cautious then that may be something to try.
@cluelessbeekeeping13224 жыл бұрын
Would giving them a frame with at least a little bit empty of pollen or honey help? Give them a place for the queen to lay some eggs? Just a thought...
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
It probably would be a good idea but they either need to start eating the pollen patty or collecting pollen before the queen would start laying again. I plan to keep them trapped in for the next day or so, don't want any of the workers flying back to old colony. Sad part is it's gonna be 60° today and I know their gonna want out.
@cluelessbeekeeping13224 жыл бұрын
@@JCsBees Aww, poor bees no outside picnic for them today, but ya, it's best for them. Your observation hive is kick ass! I'm pondering to build one for my mom's house or not?? Hmmm?
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
It's a great resource having an OB hive. In the past I have made 2 splits in one season from it. Plus it's nice during the winter to get my bee fix. lol
@cluelessbeekeeping13224 жыл бұрын
@@JCsBees Right now, I've been up all morning (awful insomnia)...but I have to go to the country (Austin to Jarrell TX) to make a bunch of splits. I moved a frame of eggs to a queenless hive (and accidentally the queen) and now I have a bunch of queen cells. I don't want them to go to waste. Around here, even with our 'harsh' winters, we often have to feed them or they'll starve. They fly about all winter long looking for non existent food. And with all that said and our mostly eternal seasons (for bees), you guys get WAY more honey than we do! That's cool 2 splits from that tiny hive! I've thought it would be cool to make an observation hive with just 1 frame (but make the frame 3' deep), so you have just one giant frame...and make it foundationless!
@researcherAmateur4 жыл бұрын
One year we did an sumer drt eksperiment. 20 qwens with 25 hives... chengein them around the hives with tini brood brekes for varroa ...and it workt. My father don't know what is a qwen reliseing cage. He always just put them in. May be thet is just diferent bees. Don't know
@richdaly98614 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@stevenallen25304 жыл бұрын
Jason, interesting outcome I hope it works out. I was wondering why you did not place a frame in the hive that had more open cells for laying to keep her busy?
@Coffee_thenwork4 жыл бұрын
If you can, can you please keep us updated on the progress of this hive? This was really interesting to see! Thanks again for the vid
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@Digger9274 жыл бұрын
Queens do not need an introduction process if they are swollen and laying or ready to lay. Once they are caged and start regressing for travel then they cannot be interchanged without proper introduction. This queen was still swollen and basically in a laying state but very borderline and weak, imho. It could have gone either way but I would have assumed she'd be accepted based on her appearance. That queen doesn't appear to me to be very strong, you barely saved her (if you did), very fortunate catch. She looks and acts to me like she was on the brink. I think this is probably why she was confined by the new workers, she was borderline considered a laying queen and was weak. My feeling is they quarantined her and nursed her back to a stronger state, a queen needs to be fed and taken care of by attendants to thrive. I think she'll be ok. The only thing that bothers me is that her original hive dwindled down, why, what happened that she didn't keep it going? Did she stop laying, was she ever a good queen or did the hive just have an irrelevant issue like low on feed...who knows. If she fails to lay well with adequate resources then she was just a junk queen. Only time will tell. She went to the dark side of the frame and took attendants with her. That's why they were on the back side of the frame. Majority of queens will seek a dark area. Once in a while one of mine doesn't seem to care at all if she's in bright light but most of them try to avoid bright light. I harvested some honey yesterday, lol. I was out of honey here in the house and needed to restock. It's nice to be able to go to a big production colony in early march and steal some honey! I had some old frames in the freezer I gave back to them though. I could have used that but I wanted some fresher stuff for my own use. The hive I robbed off of had three full supers on it anyway, they weren't going to miss four frames. Man they are strong though, beauties they are. They had 6 full frames of brood in the bottom deep already capped! No drones yet though. Jason do you ever use drone frames to promote early drone rearing to gain a bit of time for early spring queen rearing? The thought crossed my mind as I put it back together and buttoned it up and the anxious urge to start working bees hit me hard. Dunno why I'm so anxious to get going this year...must be all the extra sleep, lol.
@massachusettsprepper4 жыл бұрын
Definitely an interesting experiment. And seemed to work out. I guess time will tell but it looks like they have fully accepted her. Thanks for sharing.
@twoseedailey14 жыл бұрын
thanks Jason great video. I think your correct on Outside tempwrture might allow you to do this. What was the Temperature Range for the Last three days ?
@jamesnoell58484 жыл бұрын
I live in MI, 40 miles west of tawas city, I have a frame or two of pollen I removed in the fall can I put it back in in the spring to help boost the brood rearing ?
@RaySarasin4 жыл бұрын
You can add that frame anytime to any hive cheers
@jamesnoell58484 жыл бұрын
@@RaySarasin sweet thank you.
@moebees30604 жыл бұрын
Are there any empty cells in there for her to lay in?
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
There is a few now. They have cleaned up some of the cells with crystallized sugar in them.
@BESHYSBEES4 жыл бұрын
I take queens and make new colonies all the time, leaving the parent colony to make emergency cells, I squash the most advanced cells they draw on the day after removing her, I put her in a nucleus and give her three frames of capped and one open brood without bees on them from 4 different colonies to prevent swarming and shake a couple frames of bees at the door, the older bees fly back to their original colony the workers march right in, young bees no problems usually it’s the older bees that get shitty and ball the queen. You can’t put a new queen in a strong queen right colony they will ball her ASAP but you can remove a frame from said strong hive and give it to the new queen after half an hour then four hours later give it back queen usually accepted, some colonies realise the queen is gone after 5 mins others can take 5 days.
@davidvanway58914 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason. Great video. Question - The frames in your OH seemed to be all honey and nectar on both sides. Is there concern for space your queen needs to lay in? Seems honey bound at the start for this new colony.
@russellkoopman30044 жыл бұрын
A lot of comments say you were introducing bees with a laying queen and that is why she was accepted. Did I miss something?? I didn't see any brood or larvae in the OH. No bees to feed her to produce eggs so I doubt she was a laying queen. But the introduced bees weren't protecting their hive and these are winterbees which may not be as aggressive as old forager bees. I agree that you can introduce a laying queen into a colony but I doubt this was the case.
@lc70144 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the update to see if she is laying!
@Sharkteethfossildiscoveries4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an update
@SmallTNHomestead4 жыл бұрын
That was really cool! I'm a new beekeeper soon, bees coming next month. Was it my imagination or was the queen dark looking when she was alone and it appeared after the 20 hour mark she looked healthier? Maybe they were saving her and taking care of her?
@Sqeptick4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Was that mite frass in the open brood cells when you were showing the queen by herself? Couldn't tell, but maybe that explains why she was abandoned.
@frankspataro97144 жыл бұрын
Neat how you can see that mite on the belly of that bee like someone said
@julieenslow59154 жыл бұрын
This was 5 months ago. Have they created space for her to lay and is all working at this time?
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
@Julie Enslow Yes, they made space for her and she started laying like crazy. They went from a single to a double nuc box setup.
@julieenslow59154 жыл бұрын
@@JCsBees Good to hear. From dead to reigning and laying queen!!
@farmer9984 жыл бұрын
Jason If I'm not seeing chalk brood what is the white in the cells I've never seen it and my computer isn't very clear hope not .thank
@trichard51064 жыл бұрын
Thanks !!
@jirizhanel7954 жыл бұрын
That queen is crappy. I had one of those. I have a queen that I found in hive overtaken by hive beetles. it was only queen and few more bees. I took her out and put her in different box with frame of nurse bees, from different hive. they kept getting robbed. I had to keep adding more bees, but she didn't do much. then one of my stronger hives lost they queen, so I put her in. Number decreased significantly, never picked up. she is just shitty queen. I took her out and put her in nuke with frame of bees and let the rest just requeen themselves. I'll see, what she do.
@MegaDavyk4 жыл бұрын
I don't think she would be any good even in the swarm lure bottle.
@jonathanswoboda4 жыл бұрын
I did something similar in early spring when it was still cold. I did leave them the 2 frames queenless for about 1-2 hours. I then introduced her and they started fanning like crazy so I released her right away. It worked great the colony is still alive today.
@slimpickens38634 жыл бұрын
Good queens generally have large healthy populations.
@Prober614 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you shake a couple frames into a box, replace the beeless frames and move the bees into that hive?
@gregwaskom5524 жыл бұрын
If she is a laying queen it works. But if she has stopped laying. It probably wont
@ruannaude81974 жыл бұрын
Is that colony still alive??
@elizabethherschleb73134 жыл бұрын
That frame looks like a frame of chalk brood. All dead larva. I think that queen is sick.
@437AlBig4 жыл бұрын
Actually it looks like sugar that has been stored in the cells. Mine do this when I put in sugar candy or dry sugar.
@HomeShowTV4 жыл бұрын
Any ideas Why the original observation hive swarm abandoned the queen?
@dastevoe14 жыл бұрын
Was there a Mite on the abdomen of a bee @ approx 12:45 just north of the queen ?
@mikeshaw87444 жыл бұрын
Curious about why you propigated a 2018 queen. How did she do in previous 2 years?
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
Your assuming the red dot makes her a 2018 queen and that is not the case, she was reared last year. I don't use the colors according to the year like a lot of beekeepers do.
@wayneshoneybees54394 жыл бұрын
I read in a book that they start noticing in 20 minutes. It stated only need 2 hours to wait. Not sure what book I read it in.
@ericshipplett35174 жыл бұрын
Tell me more about your observation hive please
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
If you search my channel you will see I have several videos on it. Just here's a run down. It holds 3 deep frames. I have covers that go over the glass to block out light when I am not viewing. One the top there is 2 jar feeders that are accessible from inside the hive. As you seen is swivels on the wall so I can see each side and there is swimming pool tubing running from hive out through wall for and entrance. Hope this helps!
@paulschaefer52414 жыл бұрын
I thought of something that would be an interesting video idea. Why not make a how to video on an observation hive like the one you showed in this videol.
@HiveandHoller4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Btw Jason, Thought for sure I'd see you at the Tri County Beekeepers Workshop this weekend.
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
@Mountaineer Bee Company Thanks! I wish I had time to attend some of there workshops but I don't. Spent the whole day yesterday putting up fence to prepare to start weaning calves. Trying to get all my cattle stuff caught up on so I can start raising queens soon. Sorry I missed ya!
@SnipesRuntheNavy4 жыл бұрын
I always watch bee videos but don’t know why a queen would die on her own. Can she feed herself ?
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
She can but doesn't like too. lol
@KekPafrany4 жыл бұрын
She is so small next to her new worker. O.o
@RaySarasin4 жыл бұрын
Some times one must think outside the box cheers
@davidmckinney8844 жыл бұрын
Did exactly what you have done in February. It worked great.
@ericshipplett35174 жыл бұрын
Where did you get this observation hive?
@russellkoopman30044 жыл бұрын
You don't know JC very well. Ask him when did he build it.
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
Russell is right, it was built but not my me. My cousin made it and gave it to me about 3 years ago. He made 2, this one was the first one or what he called "the practice one". lol
@tonyc444 жыл бұрын
Great video,I definitely need an observation hive.
@ronzbee34584 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting stuff I really liked ur vid
@kellyellingson23354 жыл бұрын
The queen has no place to lay?
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
She does now! They have cleaned up some of the cells with crystallized sugar in them.
@kevinjackson18404 жыл бұрын
jason i think you were right about the pheromones. great video
@mrfender50014 жыл бұрын
Shows you never know what bees will do.
@christopherdavis90124 жыл бұрын
How much are your queens? Do you shopping to North Carolina
@JCsBees4 жыл бұрын
They are $30 each and yes I ship. But it will be at least mid June before I have any to sell.
@christopherdavis90124 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@truthabacus4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you give her an empty frame of comb to lay eggs in ?
@gregwaskom5524 жыл бұрын
Michael Palmer has been saying it for many years. Watch his videos. She needs open comb to lay in
@louiseibbotson5884 жыл бұрын
I am new to your channel, wow amazing experiment, 👍