The engine, frame and in particular the 6 speed gearbox and even the suspension on this bike is so super tight when brand new that it can be seriously discouraging for the first 599 miles and it can be difficult to remain patient with your 11k stock bike while it is vibrating your brain around in your skull just sitting on it and then trying to kill you every chance she gets when you ride it. But this bike runs and rides like a dream once it is well broken in and I love just listening to the motor idle like a Swiss watch while letting it warm up. For example both my hands would go seriously and painfully numb every ride for the first 600 miles but after that it has not even come close happening again so just imagine how many pro taper bars were purchased for absolutely no reason whatsoever. I almost feel guilty now for owning the most comfortable thumper on the road and which I never really even expected from this bike but I am definitely very grateful to Honda for it. You hear this advice over and over again about this bike- Go put 800 miles on it before you buy anything except for a seat, a gallon of oil and a couple of oil filters. Yeah don’t fight that stock seat it will win every time.
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
I agree with everything stated. I also put 2800 miles on the stock seat 😂, I did a 400 mile trip and said I'm finally getting one.
@jeffosland54478 ай бұрын
💯 the riders skill that holds them back on this bike. If you have the skill, this bike can do it all.
@The450Kid8 ай бұрын
A lot of people's egos get in the way of admitting this.
@jamesoso2597 ай бұрын
Yeah but it’s going to respond a lot better than in stock condition. Why have a 450 that feels like a cry230 lol
@anthonyridesphilly8 ай бұрын
Amen brother! Get it, ride it, love it! Words to live by
@mattrobinson8987 ай бұрын
The real hero of this video is the phone mount 😂 great video keep it up
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
No Kidding ive had that bad boy on for almost 5k miles now and multiple drops and my phone has never come off
@scottwatkins31567 ай бұрын
@@The450Kid What mount is that?
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
@@scottwatkins3156 quad lock
@rsbreeze7 ай бұрын
I just picked up a new 2023 and I was expecting horrible fueling and a sketchy throttle. It actually really performs well and i dont think it has any ridability issues and no flame out issues. I can go slow or fast and rip wheelies no problem. I'm gonna run it for 500 miles and then decide what ecu and exhaust I might add. I would like a little more snap in the mid range for 4th gear wheelies and passing. I want some better sound, it sounds like a grandpa rig.
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
ECU and exhaust makes a big difference power Wise. I can rip mine up in 4th no problem now.
@lnxextreme62755 ай бұрын
@The450Kid Hi guys! What exhaust fits on this bike? I recently bought mine and sounds like crap! 😅
@The450Kid5 ай бұрын
@@lnxextreme6275 I'm currently running a FMF with a Megabomb header. I'd personally recommend a full Yoshi system tho as the quality is way better than FMF. If your on a budget I'd run the arrow slip on system with a 450 x header.
@lnxextreme62755 ай бұрын
On every online motorcycle store, there's nothing for this bike, though! 🤦🏻♂️ There are more options if I put "crf450r," but I don't know if that exhaust fits!
@The450Kid5 ай бұрын
@@lnxextreme6275 you will have to shop for exhausts for a 450x of the same year
@johnhudson51357 ай бұрын
Coming off not riding since the 90's 250ts I love this bike no problems here. Added ECU bike is even more fun .
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
Agreed, while I don't think it makes it a better bike it does make it easier and more enjoyable to ride.
@ericrusch82585 ай бұрын
Good feedback on the AS tower - really could bring myself to get one, but tempted to
@The450Kid5 ай бұрын
I would splurge for a tower. One adventure sells one landed in the US for around $550. Just wasn't happy with how the AS vibrated really bad and the wind noise was worse than stock.
@gmatthewpaul8 күн бұрын
I have this bike and selling my KXF450R. So far love the bike do a lot of public land fire roads and trails. Building a new house so it’s going to have to stay stock for now. 😂😂😂
@The450Kid2 күн бұрын
I always love riding down the road and going I wonder where that trail goes 😂
@nvmcrider84758 ай бұрын
This is one of the better video's that I have seen on the 450L ecu's. I may have missed it, what exhaust or other mods have you done to the engine components?
@The450Kid8 ай бұрын
When this video was made there were absolutely 0 modifications made to the engine or exhaust. This video was showing what to expect when you put a ECU on a 100% stock bike.
@ridemfast76258 ай бұрын
@@The450Kid That is perfect test of the ecu and was wondering about other mods also. If possible, add that to the notes description of the video.
@The450Kid8 ай бұрын
@@ridemfast7625 hey man in this video I had no other mods done to the bike other than a rear rack and a ims 3 gallon tank.
@mikeadams4107 ай бұрын
What eco is this ?
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
@@mikeadams410 taco moto aim
@davidsalo83978 ай бұрын
Try the GET SX-1 ECU. I first tried the AIM, and it still had low speed issues. Taco Moto allowed me to refund the AIM for the GET. Way better. No stalling issues. Great power throughout the rpm range. It just keeps on pulling. Yes, the GET costs more, but way worth it! My $ 0.02.
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
Since this video ive actually ridden a bike with a GET SX-1 and i couldnt tell much difference between the 2. The GET had slightly better low end performance but that was it.
@greggory4487 ай бұрын
Thanks for video
@dr.x40508 ай бұрын
Great video! But why not Vortex? Any aftermarket muffler ideas?
@The450Kid8 ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply. I've added a fmf 4.1 with a mega bomb since this video and it rips. Reason for not getting the vortex is because I got a smoking deal on this aim used.
@cignal697 ай бұрын
Good stuff! I agree with you on the front fairing. There is so much more wind noise with the fairing. I kept mine for 2 reasons: I tuck in when we hit the road in cold weather AND it holds my tablet/GPS. I agree with you about the ECU as well. You don't have to have it, BUT if you're doing tight trails, the throttle/flame outs will wear you out until you give into the upgrade. If I rode the bike mostly on road, I would not have gotten the ECU.
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
I'm thinking about doing a rally tower on mine but I haven't made up my mind yet. I also agree, if your just street riding it definitely doesn't need a ECU.
@jamesoso2597 ай бұрын
If anything the cam swap and ecu would be the move
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
Waiting for the tacomoto cam swap kit. I'd like to see long term reliability before I go tearing into a perfectly good reliable engine.
@jamesoso2597 ай бұрын
@@The450Kid it will be just fine 🤘 go for it
@jarrod16877 ай бұрын
I've done 12000miles on the stock seat, doesn't really bother me, did at first though
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
I did 2800 on mine and I just wanted something better for longer pavement rides but that stock seat breaks in very nice after about 1000 miles
@greggory4488 ай бұрын
Does it help the top end for road riding with the vibration?
@terratrodder8 ай бұрын
I have the Vortex and I didn't notice any difference. Can be mitigated with dampen bars and thicker grips which is what I did but here are better options that are more costly. Vibration can still be felt in the feet, etc. Chris Keifer has a guide to change the torque at several locations around the bike to allow the bike to absorb more of that vibration and it's is noticeable and recommended.
@The450Kid8 ай бұрын
Haven't noticed any difference in vibration but compared to my 250 the vibration is minimal.
@jarrod16877 ай бұрын
Bike is silky smooth for a thumper
@mt18852 ай бұрын
What size and brand of tank you got?
@The450Kid22 күн бұрын
Sorry for the super late reply, it's the ims 3 gallon.
@sandrider14066 ай бұрын
Hi, if I only change the ECU on a stock bike, is there still improvements in the power output?
@The450Kid6 ай бұрын
Absolutely just don't expect huge improvements
@ReyPereztv7 ай бұрын
Did you changed the handlebar or you just took off the cross bar ?
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
@@ReyPereztv yes I swapped the handlebar to odi flight fat bars that are OEM bend.
@butterytoast48362 ай бұрын
What gearing are you running?
@The450Kid22 күн бұрын
Stock
@Brian.A.Simmons6 ай бұрын
Are you able to turn traction control on with all your maps? I have the same ECU and switch as you, but I am only able to turn traction control on with maps 2 and 5. I did change my exhaust and made corrections with all the maps to make it run more rich, so I wonder if that messed things up?
@The450Kid6 ай бұрын
Hey so turns out traction control was not working in this video it was all placebo. My ECU was running on firmware version 1.2 and is out for update now. I will make an updated video once I get the ECU back and I will make sure and test the traction control more in depth.
@Brian.A.Simmons6 ай бұрын
@@The450Kid Awesome. Thanks for the reply!
@The450Kid6 ай бұрын
@@Brian.A.Simmons no problem. I try to reply to everyone and support the community around this bike.
@Jesseyahurd9 ай бұрын
🔥
@williampage25617 ай бұрын
My ecu got stolen, im just getting a stocker to replace it
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
Keep an eye out in the Facebook groups, may be able to find a good deal on a aftermarket ECU someone is removing from their bike.
@williampage25617 ай бұрын
@@The450Kid 😭
@The450Kid7 ай бұрын
@@williampage2561 how did someone steal just the ECU ???
@williampage25617 ай бұрын
@The450Kid well they tried to take the bike. It's too heavy to walkaway with.they jamed a screw driver in the key slot, then ripped the seat off and just unplugged it. I was sleeping .