The National Butterfly Center & a PSA For America's Seniors

To become a member of the National Butterfly Sanctuary (and in turn receive reciprocal FREE admission to almost any botanic garden in the country due to the reciprocal admissions program), visit :
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In this episode, we make an attempt to de-radicalize American Seniors and Geriatrics by showing them the importance of a butterfly sanctuary and that sometimes a butterfly sanctuary is JUST a butterfly sanctuary, and NOT a front for a human smuggling operation or child abduction/baby-blood-drinking front.
Together we can take steps to de-radicalize American grandparents and save them from the propaganda machine of Tucker Carlson (the talking walnut) and other notorious rightwing media outlets.
If you have a geriatric American that you are worried has fallen victim to the right-wing media machine of unsubstantiated fear, falsely-fueled anger/vitriol and fear, don't be afraid to ask for help. Dial 1-888-OLD-FART to be directed to a repository of resources available for those concerned about the old and retired and their online activity.
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[@MrAtrophy]

said it before, I will say it again. you can always tell when someone is honestly a good person when the smallest thing gets treated well and kept safe. and yes a person sized mantis would eat people, no doubt.

[@MieythWolftear]

The National Butterfly Center is such a gem!! I love getting to chat with the staff about plants. They are so educational and nice folk. It's always great when they invite us to come talk about bees, too :D

[@Annecelia14]

South Texas is my home. There’s also a place called Quinta Mazatlan in McAllen for birds. It used to be mostly agriculture and has turned into quite a bit of sprawl. South Texas is known for having “winter Texans” so lots of geriatrics in the winter. They used to just stay at the pizza buffet for 12 hours but I guess now they’re shutting down butterfly centers. Shame. We’ve always hated them.

[@thegigi4109]

It's not the geriatrics. It's the moronic geriatrics. This almost 65 year old is convinced that a noticeable percentage of my generation have lost their f^&ing minds. Thanks for the tour. #butterflycenternotnexusofevil.

[@fishbone2921]

As a grandmother and a birdwatcher, please understand many of us are liberal and keeping it real.

[@dream.fiiend]

Way to go, I bet your desserts are *out of this world.* 😃

[@robertl.fallin7062]

Sorry madam but being a liberal bird watcher is too passive and won't cut one pound of power plant pollution.

[@ultra1000]

@@robertl.fallin7062 yeah, better to do nothing at all

[@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt]

Liberals have their own blend of nutbags, too. I don't care if someone's politics agree with mine or not so long as they're not a dick and they can shut up about it and not proselytize. The saddest thing about American culture these days is that people think screaming at each other into the void will do anything. All it does is drive engagement for the conflict algorithm.

[@discblaster9210]

@@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt”liberals” who cheer on censorship, lockdowns, forced medical procedures, sanctions, and war are not liberals but totalitarian fascists. At least right wingers usually have a slight libertarian streak, as opposed to the vapid authoritarianism of liberals. Left vs right is political illiteracy. There’s left and right, but far more important is the authoritarian/libertarian axis of the quadrant graph which is the political scale. Im a libertarian leftist, a civil libertarian and non statist, aka anarcho syndicalist. I have much more in agreement with right wingers than liberals. Liberals are the worst of the worst. My family are liberals and i hate them. Mass psychosis affects the educated liberals more than anyone

[@Tatterdemalion-77]

Young people like Stephanie give me a modicum of hope for the future.

[@treering8228]

Thank you! This was a gem! I live in Alaska and after my divorce, I moved in with my mom. She had a garden full of purchased seeds and delphiniums. I came armed with local seeds and have transformed her beloved garden. We now have a very happy community of several species of butterflies and bees. I had collected so many seeds her driveway is now a garden as well. It’s really interesting how the dominant plant changes every year.

[@Sofiaee]

I love when you do Texas videos. I feel like our nature and wildlife gets so much disrespect for not being "as good" or interesting compared to other places. I think people who say stuff like that maybe just don't know what they're looking at.

[@xtgdelrio]

South Texas native here! Appreciate you, man! 🙏👏🙌

[@richardlynch1094]

How a butterfly sanctuary ended up in the cross hairs of the Trump mob. Sad testiment to American lunacy. Thanks for showing it to us.

[@b.a.d.2086]

Putin Puppets.

[@thekingoffailure9967]

@Pepper Johnson Q anon? More like Cope-Anon, amirite?

[@mathdesm9306]

@Pepper Johnson Butterflies didn't molest anyone, you numbnut.

[@Ryan-yj8eu]

@Pepper Johnson I apologize to all the kids the Trump administration abused and molested. Even though didn't vote for the clown

[@IchKomentiereNur123]

@Pepper Johnson most child molestation happens within conservative households and structures

[@skullcrushers1000]

How did I just find out about the Reciprocal Admissions Program or that many of these sort of programs exist? That's pretty amazing. Wishing the best for the National Butterfly Sanctuary; thanks for for bringing this to our attention.

[@matthewdanielok]

I’ve been to this place multiple times and this is easily the most attention I’ve ever paid to plants. I Unironically appreciate having Tony Soprano explain botany and the necessity of conservation to me

[@Ludvig11]

I seem to never notice the time while watching these videos, as they're so dense in visual and factual information, and while beautiful plants and scenery is calming, the loud speaking helps staying alert, like a Botanical Boot Camp.

[@jbennett3578]

I was propagating native species for pollinators in central Texas a few years ago, and I thought I learned a lot. Then I see one of these videos and realize that I know approximately jack shit. Still, I've made a start, and I guess that's better than nothing. Great video, and I hope the Butterfly Center gets past the problems they've been having. It seems like a great place to visit.

[@akeleven]

Amazing to see everything blooming in Texas while here at 4,000 ft in Arizona the mesquite have not even leafed out yet. When the yucca are blooming you cannot believe the hoards of moths at night. Like the movie The Birds.

[@lucasoneil8997]

We got that Solidago sempervirens up in MA in the sand dunes. Such a sweet plant with thick leaves and stem! My favorite goldenrod by far. Glad to see it could handle the freeze!

[@mdog86]

This is so fascinating. I'm only like 2 and a half hours away from this place, I definitely wanna go check it out some day!

[@paulplantu]

Thanks for the vid, I love being exposed to badass native Texas plants I can try and grow in Houston. Keep up the great work holmes

[@mickirentauskas7010]

This video was so great, love hearing about all the great native plants from you and the native species from Stephanie. The Chachalacas were a bit shifty but i would love to hang with them

[@sethlogee]

Stephenie is definitely a CPBD fan because she uses the term “Butterfly Crack” 🤣🤣🤣

[@earthboundorganics747]

Great show thanks!! We’re signing up to be members and planting all of that 💚🙏🏽💚🙏🏽

[@larryyank1514]

Rock on Tony!!! From one butterfly luvin senior!!! & Herpetologist that Luvs the Indigos!!! Regards, Viet vet VFP

[@user-vk7cp1op9p]

Exactly, I am with you trying to protect our seniors from wacko stuff. You have a kind heart, and I appreciate all your efforts against wackos, and for the plants, animals, and seniors! Thanks for noticing the little things!

[@beverlybelcher3423]

I am a grandmother. I am a liberal! I am into conservation! I created a pollinator garden! Generalizations about any age group is not correct assumptions!

[@jenniferbutcher8393]

So we'll done...loved the butterfly pics that helped show what lives down there. Fun to see the birds too! Good luck and hope the place opens back up soon!!

[@CarlosMartinez-rz8gq]

Glad to be a part of CPBBD

[@avryptickle]

I’m a little sad you left us for Texas. You keep away from Rogan and Musk. They’re bad influences. Edit: I’d love to see an episode further discussing acacias vs. mimosas. And, if you find you back in the LA area, the Theodore Payne association does similar work for native plants here in socal. They’re probably game for some aggressive interrogations to their wildlife.

[@Radi0ActivSquid]

As someone who obsessively studies that damn cult this episode was hilarious to me. Any jabs at those cultists are well deserved.

[@alandonaly457]

Evil is a real thing , this is beauty, this is truth, this is knowledge. Don't marvel that evil attacks the butterfly sanctuary it appears to be chaos, but it's not, it's intentional . Get yourself a cape Joey you're a fecking superhero , spreading the knowledge!

[@1ACL]

Right. GQP and Trumputin is a death cult. They hate life and beauty.

[@anaritamartinho1340]

If i was from USA surely I would be a member of the national butterfly center😍

[@bobgarner44]

my neighbors of many years recently devolved into the tucker carlson quagmire. Quite sad

[@TheSchmidtsu]

I bumped into one of those yuccas in a Walmart parking lot just trying to get out of my car. It was several points of contact and a big ouch in my leg.

[@EnglishDave6767]

Loved this! ❤️ cheers, for all the Butterfly 🦋 Crack plant info!

[@DahVoozel]

Speaking about butterflies, I just sowed a bunch of alescepea tuberosa seeds in my newly designated flower area. There's probably a better milkweed to choose but those were the seeds I got.

[@andrewfetterolf7042]

i love the last remark you made at the very end, so true. It brings me so much peace

[@kmm129]

Friday night "knowledge is power." I'm in.

[@mysticpluck8]

Hey! Not ALL seniors are crazy. Like me. Don't combine me with those crazies! Please... 😊✌

[@katipohl2431]

Hi from a german botanist/phytopathologist/gardener. Great nature and infos in this channel and I feel like travelling to those wonderful, enchanting places.

[@stacypearce3945]

You know what would be cool? You doing a series of shows, one for each state of what plants/ trees to buy for butterflies...or endangered bugs...people would listen to you. Promise

[@carsonpetrash1621]

Went here today. It was impressive for sure

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

That sort of closing credits music montage was a kickass addition

[@catheriner999]

My mother used to blame the goldenrod for her allergies (she's allergic to basically everything) and tore a whole bunch out of her front yard. Going to tell her it's good for the bees and butterfly and maybe she'll leave it alone. This is up in eastern canada with some rough wet winters and it grows in ditches so clearly it's a hardy bastard to have such a wide range. Interesting stuff, as always.

[@Fabdanc]

I can hear all the grackles in the background... and I am like the only person in Texas (I am not native to Texas) who enjoys them.

[@Outwhere]

The first time I was in Texas I just had to get out in the morning and find out who made that fantastic noise. Seeing chachalacas in Santa Ana at 100 °F and insane humidity was another highlight, so I am happy they featured.

[@k33k32]

Yay! Shout out to the Carolina Parakeet!

[@katehartley2333]

Ty so much for covering this story and this amazing place. I have been trying to get people to talk about it for months and NADA :(

[@joshs3775]

7:20 the in defense of plants episode on the moths is fantastic

[@deborahprovo3779]

plz larger print for us grammas on the left

[@oscarflip8561]

15$ for a tree in a 3 gallon pot? looks like I need to move to Texas. I’m used to 40$ for a 1 gallon pot.

[@debbiehenri345]

Such a shocking thing to hear - that senior citizens 'believe' such silly things and start attacking a butterfly and garden centre, of all things. We certainly live in a very sorry age.

[@basiaurbanczyk2151]

Delightful episode.

[@1ACL]

Oh, I wish I could plant all of these, but it's too cold where I live I guess.

[@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt]

Many of them have relatives that are adapted to your cold climate

[@1ACL]

@@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt Thank you. I do think about trying... Its really harsh between the intense sun, the extreme dry, the very cold winters...and the deer..( on the edge @ 8,000 ft. in the San Luis Valley, CO)

[@TheTimN8er]

@@1ACL You should look into the plants where you live! I’m sure there are many gorgeous plants local to your area that butterflies will appreciate

[@1ACL]

@@TheTimN8er I will have to put a 12 ft cyclone fence around anything I plant because the mule deer it EVERYTHING and anything. There are maybe a few salvias they dont eat. It goes down to 15 below and up to 80s and very intense sun. No rain. Its just a real hard work to garden here..I am old and lazy now.

[@joshs3775]

Please visit FL! We have some unique flora that you would love to see I'm sure. I can put you in touch with some of the SE plant folks, they'd love to show you around

[@fuxan]

The Florida Native Plant Society has lots of welcoming and knowledgeable and hardworking members. And Florida needs a lot of love to push back against the tumor that is industrialized ecocide so that people (or investment firms) can buy up cheap homes and leave them vacant for rea$ons. It is monstrously horrifying to see the shifting baselines of newcomers snuffing out the voice of those who have witnessed absolute hell on earth. The Villages is one such example of hell...just rows of soulless...eh hem... I could go on...this is about love...love of things being lost and still here...like a beloved mayfly that you know will probably die before you will and you just love them...you love nature...the diversify and the beauty and quality of life that peace brings...and you cherish it for even the fleating moment it is here. The nut jobs won and they will get what they want...dominance of a barren wasteland of hate and not enjoying their time left on this planet while dooming their children. Oh yeh #stophumanity

[@pandapolarman]

Please come do alaska!

[@sethlogee]

I live in Maine unfortunately the home of the “Talking Walnuts” summer home 🌰🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SaraJean85]

My nickname when I was a candy kid and street pharmaceutical company- was ButRfly.. but that was like 20 yrs ago

[@DRChupacabrah]

🏄🏻‍♂️

[@taramansion]

These ppl are running a great operation, but probably shouldn't speak out against the wall in an area that's MOST affected by the immigration crisis.

[@SuperDaveP270]

It has been a long time since I have watched a CPBBD video with so few F-bombs in it! *LOL* Love the vid, sir! Thank you again, as always!

[@nibiru1123]

whats a good starting place to begin a botany journey? any specific resources or topics that should be studied first?

[@jeffg6510]

Great show! NGFY 😊

[@ileanye1451]

to see so much biodiversity and all the animals that go there for food and shelter makes me so happy.

[@manadoria]

33:04 - some great camouflage there; I doubt I would have seen him if he didn't move.

[@freya895]

full offense florida.

[@TheEricrya]

Great video!

[@saldemain2267]

fabulous place !

[@sunnydalton2994]

I really just love everything about this video

[@jamielandis4606]

😂 I love you Tony! Well said!

[@jesselitz8873]

“Mark Zuckerbergs conflict algorithm” 😂👍🏼

[@solgato5186]

I cliimbed out of a van and straight into one of those spiky plants, it stabbed me just inside my eye socket ridge.

[@tannerbland9827]

You gotta do a video on Yucca moths! Such an insane pollination strategy

[@innovativeatavist159]

Mark my words, some day I will breed eastern Indigo snakes.

[@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt]

Somebody needs to

[@innovativeatavist159]

@@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt there's a few captive breeders out there, but those babies STAY in captivity and go to reptile keepers for a couple grand a piece. I wish there was a permitting process for private individuals to breed and release struggling species. As far as I know there just isn't enough demand to justify the expense of another arm of beurocracy. So far all I've managed to do is illegally rehabilitate a wild Lampropeltis nigra. Fuck the man, save the snakes.

[@benjizion7365]

If I knew about this happening during Trump’s Presidency, I would’ve came out to protest about Obama/Biden’s racist wall that hates Jewbans 🇨🇺✡️ like me! Anyways, I’m a huge fan of the place! My grandma who married my Jewban grandfather is a Holocaust survivor as well and I’ve led tours at the Holocaust museum in Houston to talk about the #ButterflyProject I might just reach out and see if I can bring both of them together :)

[@antonyjh1234]

The Talking Walnut....Ha! perfect. Although he seems to have turned into a young sapling lately.

[@zlaynie]

Omg first time viewer and this STX woman is enamored

[@1ACL]

Where do we sign up to join the underground opposition? I'm game...🐝🦋🧨🌻🦋🐞💣🦋💉🐝🌾🎭🏹☄💣👥

[@melissasullivan1658]

Oh my god, I love this f*cking channel. 😂

[@christiansky942]

The ending hahahaha What do you film with to get such juicy money shots?

[@loganhynek8060]

you fucking right about that" the trucker never honk for you no more"

[@loganx1039]

Indigo snakes eat rattle snakes?! The enemy of my enemy is my new best friend :3

[@marythomas5656]

Wow, what a wealth of knowledge Stephanie is.. so much information in her noggin! And she's a great representative for the butterfly center. I hope they realize what an fantastic employee she is. The plant propagation there is just incredible. Thanks for the behind the scenes video, Tony. Nice job.

[@katcervantes6312]

Completely agree! Wished this was a longer episode with her haha

[@LynnGorman]

Awesome video!

[@bredear]

This was awesome, to get to see the Mission, TX Butterfly Center. They are doing amazing work with plants and pollinators. Thank you.

[@indayluvs1562]

The insanity of trying to shut down a BUTTERFLY SANCTUARY 🤯 Thank you for this PSA. Any talk of grandparents always makes me miss my own beautiful Nanay, Tatay, Nanang, and Tatang. They would've thought QAnon is a bunch of nonsense.

[@thedudegrowsfood284]

by nature, butterflies are Communists. thus the friction.

[@discblaster9210]

Qanon is faaaaar closer to the truth than the propaganda “liberals”(not liberal but totalitarian fascists who cheer on censorship, lockdowns, and war) gargle. Im an actual leftist, a civil libertarian and non statist, so don’t think I am s trumper

[@anschn7166]

@@rhizospheregaming Do you really, seriously believe that this wall will make your country more "safe"?

[@Ryan-yj8eu]

@@rhizospheregaming Mexicans aren't really coming here anymore it's mostly people from central America. And they are coming here because the united states government destroyed their economies and overthrew their democracies with coups. Wise up buddy. I know you won't. But hey other people try to understand history and geography. You have given in to fear and bigotry. ✌️

[@Gamerkat10]

i was like "WHAT?" skjhfsdkghdkj absolutely insane. butterflies!! butterflies....

[@swatch12345]

I mean it's somewhat comical, but mostly sad, to imagine a herd of geriatric whackos trying to hop the fence to fight the butterfly people. Any particular species of Asclepias I should plant to help out with butterflies? I got hummingbirds covered.

[@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt]

Hard to say without knowing where you live. Whatever is easiest to grow in your region. Asclepias speciosa can be a pretty great one.

[@swatch12345]

@@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt Zone 9. Nearish you. I just wasn't sure if specific larvae need specific species. What's you favorite CA native salvia by the way?

[@Tsuchimursu]

@@swatch12345 easy solution - plant them all!

[@Lynn-yb6db]

Plant any of them that are native to your immediate vicinity. If you don't know which ones those are, keep an eye out this summer when you're poking around (you are poking around, aren't you?).

[@colincook2910]

Do you live in California? But only plant milkweeds native to your immediate vicinity because if you plant lets say a tropical milkweed in the Bay Area, it will stay green too late into the year and disrupt monarch migration patterns. Can get around this by chopping them to the ground at the appropriate time for your area. If your from California let me know, those are the milkweeds I know about

[@chuxmix65]

What a great episode! A wonderful woman and a wonderful facility! Just emphasizes the interconnectedness of... everything. Those Chachalacas did look a bit shifty, though.

[@IneffableFoxy]

Mark Zuckerberg's Conflict Algorithm is the best and most accurate thing I've heard in a while

[@ItsRyanHello]

Trust me its not just seniors, plenty of the "Young Republicans" and dudes in their 20s have gone full psycho boomer already, shit hurts to watch them slowly lose their minds to fox news

[@samfinnell6070]

I honestly think it's worse because they were taught to behave this way and have no other form of identity to grasp onto. Hatred is all they have in some cases.

[@Radi0ActivSquid]

There's a Q cult chapter leader in my hometown who's fairly young. He's so devoted to the cult and to MAGA that he bought a bus and painted his 3%er insignia, the Trump Punisher skull and the Q cult motto on it. He drives it around town on "patriotic days." 4th of July, veterans day, remembrance day, election day, etc. Dude is guano insane and got himself banned from Menards for life for pulling a mask stunt. His whole family believes in some of the most insane conspiracies. Dads a rightwing nut job, brother thinks 9/11 was an inside job, another brother thinks schools are grooming kids, a sister believes SARS and AIDS are man-made bioweapons. Their family is loaded with money too so I'm pretty concerned about the safety of my town.

[@TheHolyMongolEmpire]

Honestly, its both sides that are rotting the minds of Americans. Democrats have become just as looney and susceptible to propaganda as right wingers. Its really sad to see. The left use to be the anti war party but now they love war. The right is just as nuts as its always been. America is just in a sad state of affairs and the media and social media is rotting everyones minds and makes everyone not be able to think for themselves and not be able to see propaganda.

[@lutherdean6922]

Stephanie Lopez, she is a rockstar!!!

[@azuredivina]

yup!!

[@consilo]

breakbeat reel at the end was a nice touch. been loving all the high production value editing lately, also you make a damn good tee-shirt joey, tell ya friends i said so

[@thewuurm]

I'm very lucky to have access to a remnant of old growth forest to see native plants of my area, but my man Joey lets me see native plants from all over the world, and he's not afraid to get the Fox News Grandpas mad at him either. Great combo, great video

[@uncleknife9887]

Tony, you are a International Treasure...and very much under appreciated

[@davidelliott8324]

They are my idols! I've probably got 50 different native wildflowers growing in my suburban Tennessee cul-de-sac lot. And a few crack plants, as well as noxious weeds like thistle for the nectar fiends. I've lured in rare birds and long-tailed skippers on a regular basis for a few years. As a 4-year sober alcoholic, I found wild plant identification and collection/ propagation to be an addicting replacement.. Thanks for another banger video!

[@xtgdelrio]

Congrats on your recovery!

[@chezmoi42]

Yay, David! Well done! Who do you find useful for native plant info in TN? I follow a tiny home builder/community developer's channel in Newport, and I keep leaving comments reminding them to use natives in their future landscaping. You could be a great resource for them!

[@ulalaFrugilega]

❤

[@apisto9783]

May I recommend a nice episode of murder she wrote or perhaps antique roadshow instead of Fox News

[@ThreeRunHomer]

Or do some FN gardening for F sake. Get outside in nature or what not.

[@samfinnell6070]

Perhaps some nice literature, a jog, or spending time with loved ones!

[@Huecohound]

Support this place. Shop their store on line, visit, do what you can. These places matter.

[@iseriver3982]

A butterfly sanctuary was shut down because of qanon? Cancel culture is alive and well. Remember when America was great? Nah, me neither 😂

[@fatherofchickens7951]

THIS. Is my favorite video of yours to date!

[@1ACL]

Mine, too!

[@katiekane5247]

I understand that important habitat was dozed in pursuit of the vanity wall too. Brilliant plan, be such a denuded wasteland, nobody wants to be there 😔 I've gotta speak for non-pain seniors, I'm growing & rescuing where needed lotsa natives. I've had Zebras this spring! Some beautiful stuff there, a day in plant heaven!

[@reivenne]

Thanks for this video, this was really informative. I'd heard about the insanity with the right wingers trying to shut this place down, so it was nice to put a visual to match up with the meme.

[@christinasornbutnark1208]

I just saw this cool dude on Wired talking about plants. I was like who is this 🤡 trying to be like Joey S. Just bc he has a cute face and sorta talks like you but if u were at a job interview. Turns out it is you. Never saw ur face before. PS; we lost our grandma to Fox News last year. We tried everything but she was too far gone.

[@samfinnell6070]

Paying my respects: F

[@williamchamberlain2263]

The old folks do like something to get angry about. My gran was pre-internet so she just fantasized that the people across the road kept breaking into her house and stealing cooking ingredients out of her larder.

[@stephenpmurphy591]

What? QAnon people are opposed to a butterfly sanctuary & native plant nursery......Shite. I Have family in Texas I'll share this video with them. They'll love it. QAnon aren't they flat Earthers? Edit: I'm a senior citizen not all of us are lunatics. QAnon....shite!

[@minnwanderer]

Im so glad you covered this!