Crimewatch Redux - The Murder of Shirley Banks (1987)

[@johnahearn7964]

Thank God for people like the women who refused to go along with his demands & the two men who chased Canaan down.

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

Yep , quick thinking .

[@stephenkelly7397]

"FREEMASON"

[@tjc89]

'Do as I say and you won't get hurt' in that cheesy creepy voice. 'Piss offAAAARRGH'. So accidentally funny.

[@cynthiatolman326]

That's exactly what we need to all do.

[@loulou7963]

It was 😂

[@linseybrownlie3680]

Yeah that was comical..🤭🤭

[@freddymars2014]

I like how the Killer casually walks away probably thinking WTF just happened?

[@DarkStar-wu9nq]

The lady witness …… I saw a man punching something and a woman pleading ……….. and then I went shopping at Tescos and completely ignored it all …….. how the hell does she sleep at night

[@bananacake9289]

Yes….that DOES seem strange, I must agree 🤦‍♀️ I’m certain that had it been myself who’d witnessed this I would have had to report it!! Some people just baffle me tbh!…….🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🙋‍♀️🇬🇧

[@dshe8637]

She probably made it up for the attention

[@KatieB-0880]

WTAF I just don’t understand how you cld not call the police straight away

[@zeddeka]

The police were "highly suspicious" of that witness

[@nm628679c]

Arms folded in the photo with Shirley. Strange manner when interviewed after the tragedy.🤔

[@emmaransford]

Shirley Banks RIP Beautiful Lady

[@davidburgess189]

RIP to all of this bastard’s victims. Including Sandra Court in Bournemouth that never gets mentioned.

[@Hayleybops]

And suzy Lamplugh

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

@@Hayleybops Yep. I think Suzy was his first and he just got complacent and sloppy in 1987, which made it much easier for the police to nail him down. The police seem very confident he was responsible, but the evidence they had wasn't enough for the CPS.

[@mohammaddavoudian7897]

A deceitful, lying, coward who thought he was an accomplished liar. The biggest fools are those who think they can fool the law and the scientists.

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

He seems to have become complacent and sloppy in 1987, which got him caught. They also later found traces of Suzy Lamplugh's DNA in a car he didn't own until a bit later - unfortunately that alone is probably not enough to prove murder. The police submitted a pretty compelling casefile to the CPS for the Lamplugh case but sadly it wasn't enough.

[@jamesroberts1964]

Cannan shares so many character traits with the American Ted Bundy.

[@loulou7963]

Definitely

[@jujulionesselsa1416]

Definitely @Lou Lou.

[@andrewphillips470]

With the wide open geography of the United States he might have killed as many.he was capable of it

[@Andreschannel_SA]

It's Al Bundy, in the sitcom "Married with children". And he was a funny guy.

[@MsVanorak]

according to david vicette (book) the reason why cannan moved to bristol was to be with/near his girlfriend who was a solicitor. it just so happens that her cousin was the lamplugh family solicitor. very fishy - mr. kipper!

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

Piecing it all together, it seems like Suzy and Cannan already knew each other even before he was finally released from his bail hostel. I think he robbed her bag in the pub that night as a show of power and to mess with her, then he put in the bogus appointment to see the house as a way of being alone with and surprising her. It would have a far greater impact if a) she wasn't expecting him (might have been 'cute'?) or b) she had been avoiding him and he finally cornered her. If he'd given honest details to Sturgis when making the appointment then chances are Suzy would have asked a colleague to go along instead.

[@MsVanorak]

@@halfbakedproductions7887 the pub found her stolen cheque book and had contacted her to let her know. some theories are that she invented mr. kipper but headed to the pub to get her stuff instead. there she met her end and someone put her car where it was found. but then who was outside the house with the champagne?

[@westminsterwatcher5152]

@@halfbakedproductions7887 You're right, there is already a wealth of evidence to suggest that Suzy and Cannan had an association. I believe that association was a sexual one and they embarked on a fling whilst he was on leave from the hostel. Periodically, he'd disappear early from dates (likely to avoid breaching his bail), and bragged to colleagues about trawling the wine bars of Fulham and meeting a "special girl from Fulham", referring to the girl by the nickname "Susu." From what she told her family, she mentioned a date in which she went to a motor race (Cannan's favourite sport) and how the guy turned very angry, leaving her very frightened. She wanted to terminate their association and was set to tell him straight. I believe he was stalking her and upon seeing Suzy with her boyfriend on the Friday before her disappearance, he became very bitter, stole her items, and plotted to ambush her on the day of her disappearance. Maybe she tried to placate him, but in the end, I suspect an argument ensured and fueled with jealousy and murderous rage, Cannan ultimately killed her. It's a dreadfully sad case and I would hope that now in the event of Cannan's death, someone might do the decent thing and provide the necessary information that might assist in the recovery of her remains. Her family deserve closure.

[@tjc89]

Ironic that the lady who escaped abduction by John Cannan cut through to Cannans Road.

[@djbeard001]

Not sure that is a coincidence. He enjoyed playing cryptic games. E.g. dumping the body in Dead Woman’s Ditch.

[@teavanastjamesvancartierdu1280]

It’s actually Canon’s/Canon’s Marsh not Cannans Road

[@djbeard001]

@@teavanastjamesvancartierdu1280 ok…the point still applies

[@da_great_mogul]

@@teavanastjamesvancartierdu1280 haha Columbo, it's close enough. He couldn't find a Cannan Rd./St./Way etc. on the A-Z!

[@Hayleybops]

I was just about to comment the same

[@maxine4898]

Omg, he’s pure evil, he reminds me of Ted Bundy

[@Andreschannel_SA]

It's Al Bundy, in the sitcom "Married with children". And he was hilarious, not evil.

[@slinkiegirl2001]

he is gone now he never even told the surviving family what he did with Suzy lamplaugh

[@franriding6473]

Agreed, very similar personalities

[@nm628679c]

​@@Andreschannel_SA- Wrong Bundy!

[@michaelwilliams2337]

Cannon died 6 November 2024 while still in jail.

[@Mark-c9h3l]

He wasn't that intelligent. He was articulate and well-spoken, but the explanations and cover stories he gave were laughable.

[@KatieB-0880]

Exactly… he thinks he uber sophisticated and smart, he is as thick as sh…

[@paulbowman1762]

Never forgotten Shirley ! Rip ! Godbless ! 🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@zeddeka]

Cannan had the absolutely classic childhood experiences of an offender like that. A violent, abusive father and a mother who smothered and "enmeshed" him. He was also sexually abused at school by a teacher. His family seem to have been terrible snobs who were more concerned with appearances. Cannan ended up with a toxic mix of rage, self entitlement and narcissism.

[@terryyakamoto3488]

Why aren't his two siblings also killers? For any act, you can cobble together a narrative based upon common societal perceptions of why people behave in certain ways, then apply it to past events. And what practical purpose does it serve, none, it is meaningless smug hindsight. It does sell books, though, read by people who like to delude themselves into believing they can "read" other people

[@pauljosham2551]

The flat he lived in foyle house in Leigh woods is still there , underneath had garages one he kept Shirley banks mini cooper in and hand painted it blue

[@philharry139]

Those evil eyes...scary.

[@laurastuart3814]

That was an actor.

[@booers79]

The elderly woman's account at 35:36 sends shivers down me.

[@cynthiatolman326]

I'd have gotten shivers if she'd called the police and reported it.

[@NoirFan84]

Nah, I didn't buy that crap at all.

[@Maz-zb9uf]

​@@NoirFan84what do you mean

[@KarmasAbutch]

⁠@@Maz-zb9ufwho see and hears ALL that detail and just does nothing but saves it for later- and where are all the other motorists held up in traffic with her…. who somehow didn’t see or hear the same thing? Coz not one came forward to corroborate this. Only her… seeing way more than everyone else put together and hearing choking sounds… and just sitting on it lol

[@KarmasAbutch]

@@NoirFan84I laughed my arse off Grandma was feeling unseen and needed some attention

[@DarkStar-wu9nq]

He changed the number plates for Suzy lamplight date of disappearance

[@richardgray131185]

I think I've cracked it. Registration SLP 386S: (SLP) Suzy Lamplough (3) Cannan released three days before she vanished. (86) The year 1986 (S).

[@markrobinson6800]

No the 3 denotes the 3 women he killed in 86

[@tristanmorgan852]

They recon it's a grid reference? Who knows

[@pattymelt-go3fv]

He killed 3 women all who's name began with "S" in 1986. Suzy, Shirley, Sandra.

[@westminsterwatcher5152]

@@pattymelt-go3fv Shirley was murdered in 1987

[@PSD-ms8yl]

Man you have some archives.

[@simonevans343]

Did he really talk like the reconstruction. How did the officers stop themselves from hitting him?

[@terryyakamoto3488]

They didn't

[@youtuber.2630]

Rip Shirley

[@keep_it_real_1]

The girl that had the gun put to her in her car, who got away, gave a good description of Cannan in a photofit, and the police said he has a distinctive look.. however, the photofit given by a witness in the Suzy Lamplugh case looks nothing like him, nothing like his distinctive look!!!

[@scallopohare9431]

If the re-enactment was accurate, she never got a good look at his face.

[@cynthiatolman326]

There was no evidence to link them, I don't doubt they would have wished there had been. Only an irresponsible press who will print anything and in fact does print everything to sell papers. They don't care about anything else.

[@tomsdottir]

The police have found evidence that Suzy Lamplugh had been in the car owned by Cannnan at the time of her disappearance, and have stated publicly that they believe he is responsible. Cannan has said that he knows who abducted and murdered Suzie, and that it's the same person who murdered Shirley. I expect he knows better than anyone that that's the truth.

[@rachelw6237]

@@tomsdottirif they have evidence, why haven’t they prosecuted him and solved the crime?

[@tomsdottir]

@@rachelw6237 You mean apart from the fact he's dead?

[@terryford8280]

Good show!👍

[@KattEyl]

Too bad the woman who escaped the killer didn’t bump him with her car or follow him to try to find out who he was.

[@rachelw6237]

He had a gun.

[@Mark-c9h3l]

Are the interviews actual footage or replayed by actors?

[@bananacake9289]

Actors replaying those scenes imo however they are very realistic!! Doubt they’d be allowed to use the actual footage 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️😱😱😱🇬🇧

[@darren2198]

Mix of actors and actual police officers in the investigation👍

[@zeddeka]

​@@bananacake9289there wouldn't have been footage in those days. Perhaps a tape recording of the audio but not video

[@McIntyreBible]

9:42, a group of men chase after the man who tried to hold up the store.

[@McIntyreBible]

What does "piss off" in England mean (2:51)? because in America it is a strong/unrefined phrase.

[@medes5597]

The same, she was telling him to get away.

[@lauraarcher1730]

Here too!

[@_Meng_Lan]

It sounds cuter and funnier in a British accent

[@norfolkronin6307]

Get away? GO AWAY.

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

Obviously it is in England, too. You don't expect a woman who is being attacked to be all polite and refined, do you? It means "go away." You could have just googled it

[@erdemir5641]

Same eyes as Ted Bundy

[@yvonnesmith2115]

Rip all the ladies who met this man. X

[@Bad_Gnasher]

Shirley parents are truly incredible.

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

I just hate this guy's arrogance and hypocrisy.

[@racertian]

His genuine belief that he thinks he is highly intelligent and has morals simply highlights what a psychopath he is. He is so pathetic and fake in how he speaks and presents himself I find it unbelievable that anyone could have been taken in by him...not least the dating agency boss !

[@jujulionesselsa1416]

Same: it makes me furiously angry 😡

[@terryyakamoto3488]

1:00:50 As a 6'6 man who looks a bit like a werewolf and often wears a dirty rain coat, I'd like to thank psychologist Ray Wyre for pointing out that sex offenders don't look like me. Cheers Ray

[@freddymars2014]

2:53 😆😆😆 p*ss off! AHHHHHH!

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

Her husband should have said something sooner. And no, not everybody would just assume "these things don't happen."

[@EmmaFentonTun]

I think that he was really upset about the way that the police managed the case and that of Suzy Lamplugh. I think his ‘smiling’ is more out of disbelief than anything else. He was very angry and if you Google it, he commented on this in 2018. Also, as he said, he is angry that Canan was able to reoffend.

[@thisisnotme7017]

that numberplate ....Suzy Lamplugh

[@loulou7963]

Slp , Suzy lamplugh, 86 , was that the year she disappeared ? Can’t work out the rest though ?

[@da_great_mogul]

@@loulou79633 victims 1986. 386 was the last three digits. Yes, she went missing in July, 1986.

[@MsVanorak]

no - slip is a type of clay/china clay used in pottery/porcelain manufacture. but also two cold case bodies have been found in woodland adjacent to motorway slip roads at junctions - one in the beaconsfield area, m40 and the other next to the m5 at a junction south of bristol, possibly just inside somerset.

[@da_great_mogul]

@@MsVanorak what? I used to exit the M40 Beaconsfield junction when I worked at Sunrise Senior Living HO there. Freaky! Where in UK are you from?

[@MsVanorak]

@@da_great_mogul i used to travel nationally as a courier but was based in telford

[@terryyakamoto3488]

He left school with 3 O levels, yet he is described as highly educated because he put on a posh voice and wore a suit. FFS

[@mohammaddavoudian7897]

56:30 This man's tone of voice is remarkably like Michael Aspel's.

[@laurencecope7083]

There is something that I don't like about mr banks, the way he is grinning on the bench interview, talking about his wife.

[@zeddeka]

I suspect he has had major problems dealing with it all and it's really damaged him. A lot of people go into a massive state of denial when something like that happens and can seem quite odd. It's a coping strategy more than anything.

[@lesleywild8706]

Definitely, if someone doesn't come home from work by say a usual 6.00 pm, allowing time for late night shopping by 8.30 pm - all her family and then work colleagues should have been telephoned and questions asked? After that at midnight the police - her husband possibly also scoured her possible routes from work but did he raise the alarm in time? She was kept alive for 18 hours - I would presume she was dead by the time the alarm was raised? If the earlier aborted incident had been tied in with this missing woman and the police had a list of known offenders in the area maybe she could have been saved - what was all that about a woman calling for a taxi too???

[@racertian]

I simply find the Dating Agency boss' appraisal of Cannan unbelievable. I know it is easy with hindsight but ..really....he comes across as so smarmy and fake when being interviewd by her, it beggars belief she can state that she quite liked him and found him pleasant and amusing. The way he rocks in the chair and tilts his head and the fake smile....and that is before we get to the pretentious answers...'I admire Ghandi, Bertrand Russell and Prince Charles'....and then later says he likes Benny Hill.....lol.. I mean, how could she not see through him ?

[@dshe8637]

She wasn't there to assess him though; he was paying for the service

[@racertian]

@@dshe8637 I am going by her interview with the media rather than the actual appointment he had with her, in which she stated that she found him charming, amusing and likeable !! I can tell how fake his demeanour and replies are in an instant, how could a dating agency boss be so gullible not to see through his bogus mannerisms and replies ?

[@orbtastic]

@@racertian He's clearly a charismatic, manipulative psychopath. His own solicitor had a relationship with him. What's that tell you? His answers come off as cheesy and fake but I imagine he came off better than most of her other clients.

[@zeddeka]

Easy to say that with hindsight. He'd clearly tailored his act to manipulate his target women, usually very middle class

[@racertian]

@@zeddeka Nothing to do with 'hindsight'. He is transparently fake. His mannerisms alone scream out someone being insincere. I don't need 'hindsight' to spot that...just a pair of eyes and a modicum of intelligence !

[@joe18425]

11:49 defence lawyer would love this

[@george5590]

the mater should never rest

[@erdemir5641]

He's also very similar to Peter Hitchens in the interview

[@chloeew4627]

Rain man .

[@stephenkelly7397]

"Freemason"

[@laurastuart3814]

Top class policing.

[@Maz-zb9uf]

He looks like Ted Budy

[@johnniethepom7545]

Whilst I am not generally a fan of the police , however under certain circumstances in these type of serious crimes then Mi5 and the SAS should be given carte blanche to use whatever method are necessary to obtain the truth . Then once certain , ywo lead Asprin should suffice .

[@zeddeka]

Put down your copy of Bravo Two Zero and have a nap.

[@johnniethepom7545]

@th8257 never read it m8 . Tell me precisely what type of work you think the intelligence services undertake ? I merely advocate allowing them to use whatever means necessary .

[@BuffaloBilly69]

He was incompetent as a criminal

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

I love how in his dating interview he says he's in a "sedimentary" period. What a dummy.

[@racertian]

When he tells the shop assistant to go to the door and lock it....this 'intelligent' man didn't appear to think that she might go through it into the street and call for help instead....lol....