Crimewatch UK November 1994

Sue Cook and Nick Ross present. The cases are the missing schoolboy, Daniel Handley in Beckton, East London and the murders of Julie Pacey in Grantham, Lincolnshire and Ken Brown in Barrow on Soar in Leicestershire.

[@IanP1963]

What comes across more than anything in these Crime-watch TV episodes, is how the death of a loved one leaves a massive vacuum in a family’s life, especially if the crime is unsolved and nobody is ever brought to justice. The aftermath of a murder must be the most awful of experiences, because when the dust has settled and the home of the victim has been cleared and sold or rented out to someone else, the memories plus the home video are all that are left, with the pain and suffering around forever probably. I bet there’s not a day that has gone by where family and friends haven’t said to themselves, “what would have been” ? I have often wondered how much support and help families of murder victims get in our society, then and now.

[@chriswaddle4784]

So true.

[@secretsquirrel5764]

Oh Daniel. Poor kid. The most heartbreaking and sickening case. His murderers must never be released.

[@Lushgirl81]

Poor Daniel. He seems like the sweetest lad. 😢

[@johncook496]

Thanks Redcard. Remember the Daniel Handley case so well, as it was really local to me. So sad.

[@candeecallaway4223]

I

[@BlytheWorld1972]

My heart is broken Murder of Daniel Handley is horrific :(

[@BlytheWorld1972]

his poor mother :(

[@BlytheWorld1972]

Evil bastards that killed him should be hung

[@TheDavephillips]

@Anthony Mcken Agreed. Perhaps the pre drop, slow strangulation type public hanging as used in the 18th and early 19th century type of execution might be more suitable. In fact I'd like to advocate that for all paedophiles, rapists and murderers.

[@Lushgirl81]

Poor lad. He seemed like a lovely, sweet boy.

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

BlytheWorld1972 it’s so sad can’t comprehend how his family feel Xx

[@slydoll7877]

The horrible foreshadowing of what the actress said in the reconstruction of Daniel's case. She said "He'd help anyone" and at the time of filming, they didn't know that he'd been taken by two men who got him into their car under the impression they needed help understanding a local map.

[@AACE73]

Absolutely heartbreaking 😢

[@iguanna41]

That poor schoolgirl going home to discover her dead mum will haunt her forever, i hope that guy was caught.

[@noellegunning3301]

Sadly, not yet

[@sdeee3842]

Not yet the dna is no match in the data base as yet fingers crossed it is soon!

[@IanP1963]

@Greg Davidson Why - to her he just turned back on himself, there was no evidence of anything criminal occuring !!!!!!!!

[@jorgenvonstrangle4725]

Not yet the man has never been traced and until he is this case has hit a dead end as its obviously that he has a lot to do with the case.

[@IanP1963]

@@jorgenvonstrangle4725 Or that it's a total red herring ??????

[@SerenDipity64711]

Those young boys had a lucky escape. In spite of their horrible ordeal, they gave a brilliant description of that creep. I hope he was found.

[@3littlemaids1]

I remember nick saying please don't call to say you know who the actor is in the reconstructions

[@meggriffin94]

people are stupid

[@LANCSKID]

He wears a wig.

[@isaz597]

I remember as a young lad watching this episode with my parents. Julie Pacey murder sticks with me as well as Daniel's.

[@dominewimbury2039]

I remember Daniel's case although I didn't know him personally. We were the same age. I live in South East London, just over the river. RIP Daniel xx

[@SerenDipity64711]

Daniel Handley's case haunts me to this day. Who knows what path he would have followed in life. He seemed to have a huge personality and a lot of cheekiness. Bless that little boy too trusting for his own good. I always told my children that adults don't need the help of children for anything, and to ignore any requests to help look for/at something. Poor Daniel I will always remember the case, and the revulsion of hearing what happened to him. RIP sweet boy🚲🎈🏀🧸

[@drexlspivey5828]

That "Adults never need the help from children for anything" statement is incredibly good advice, I don't have kids but if I ever do that is 100% what I'm going to teach them when it comes to strangers, it is completely true

[@ThePrincessnady1]

That’s really, really good advice

[@SerenDipity64711]

@@ThePrincessnady1 ❤

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

Adults DO need the help of children for particular things!!! 😡 Particularly the elderly and those with no good company around them. What a toxic thing to teach other people!

[@SerenDipity64711]

@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 that is a completely different thing altogether! Of course my children did things like that! I was talking about adults who target children when they are on their own!! That's the problem with commenting on threads like these - there's always people who take them the wrong way!

[@AngelMitchellBooks]

R.I.P Daniel at least the two truly vile men who killed him were caught and were sentenced too 3 life sentences each

[@ajs41]

What happened to him? Who were the culprits?

[@AngelMitchellBooks]

@@ajs41 Theres a programme which details the case and how the police caught the killers its on youtube and its called crimewatch file daniel handley a stolen life

[@angusking1593]

@@ajs41 The culprits were Brett Tyler and Timothy John Morss.

[@ajs41]

@@angusking1593 Thanks.

[@neilt4723]

Evil Scumbags, they’ll get their just deserts

[@eddieedwards5668]

Cheers buddy, saved me going to church this morning, well that's my excuse anyway 😀😀 good morning all my regular crimewatchers, keep up the good work Buddy.....

[@dominewimbury2039]

I was the same age as Daniel. RIP darling

[@valuetraveler2026]

We were all the same age as him once upon a time - I guess you meant at the time

[@JuiceTerry87]

That description of the car and map is chilling, that person has almost witnessed the kidnap of Daniel. RIP, the same age as me.

[@Excecutioner147]

The murder of Julie Pacey has bugged me since the first time i watched this episode back in 1994. The young girl who saw the man walking directly onto Julie's drive and walked straight into the house, why would someone know to open a front door and walk in? he must have seen day before that at that time Julies house is open for kids to come home. He walked in but didn't have the nerve to attack? maybe saw the school walking and thought she may be coming there. He had workman's overalls yet no van or vehicle he might have wasn't seen, when he saw Julie drive past he ran back and carried out this horrible crime. Its likely he has carried out other crimes but seems to have avoided detection, Julies family deserve closure hopefully he'll be found soon

[@dk401]

For me, it seems that the clues point to someone who had worked on the new housing estate close to Julie's house in the days and weeks before the murder. The murderer could have seen her, took a liking to her, planned the assault when he went in the house aa couple of days before and carried out the assault in the knowledge that he would be close to a main road leading out of the town. Its really frustrating there's a full dna profile which is unmatched. It's time the law changed and police were allowed to look at familiar dna that people upload to dna history websites, there's the information there to solve several unsolved murders.

[@colinhumphreys8818]

@@dk401 what do you mean law changed ?? if the police have a full dna profile then they surely can immediately have it linked to someone who is on the database familiar or full profile they can match to a familiar at any time they have caught murderers and rapists that way

[@michellegibbons767]

The BMW is suspicious , maybe she was having an affair?

[@BlytheWorld1972]

Well to me the man coming out of the house was her fancy piece!! and she just told the girl it was a stranger also the strange car she used i really think she was having an affair but why she was killed iv no idea.

[@johnrollins9153]

@@colinhumphreys8818 They have in the United States, but not in the UK.

[@carlogiovanni1739]

im so lucky i remember once, while coming back from shopping, must have been nine at the time a man called me to help him move his car. he said that I should get in his car, while he gets out and moves it - - that creeped me out and i ran off

[@valuetraveler2026]

Sadly these predators have a sense for weaker kids sadly they were not punished in kind especially Morss

[@jameshogarth9660]

Excellent can’t wait to finish work and get home to this delight. Wee cheeky bit of crocodile shoes at the start too.

[@gujh03]

Good old Jimmy nail

[@vanillasnow4084]

The Daniel case gave me chills he’d only be a few years older then me and i remember boys rocking that style especially the long bit at the back of the hair , he was obviously an out going cheeky little thing with lots of character sadly to say that made him an easy target.. i hasn’t read up what happened yet and tbh i don’t think i want to 🙁

[@dearlight2350]

Dirty pédophilies

[@davidwacko6623]

hope ones who killed dasniel hope they die nataral death

[@TheOne-fe8wk]

Horrible disgusting scum bags that don’t deserve the oxygen they breath. Funny story about that haircut. Around 94/95 I cut the fringe of my curtains to try and tie it and attach it to the back of my head like that style (Rat tail was the name I think). As u can imagine it didn’t go to plan and my mum was pissed that I ruined my hair haha

[@vanillasnow4084]

The One 😂😂 all the boys had that hairstyle

[@anthonymichaelboyce4641]

I think they was called rat tails.the hairdo

[@stonemere]

Just found these episodes of CM. Great archive - keep up the good work.

[@Kill--alllll---IDF]

Daniel handley murder rocked me fkn so so upsetting....

[@elijaprice]

I've just been reading about the murder of Julie Pacey so I thought I'd watch this. When they're discussing it Nick Ross says that the suspect in blue overalls has thinning hair "as we can see", but that isn't the case with either the e-fit picture or the actor in the reconstruction (who has a noticeably thick head of hair), and I don't remember reading this detail anywhere else. It seems reasonably important, because if he had thinning hair when he was in his mid-30s in 1994, he's probably bald by now, if he's still alive. As evidenced by the actor playing him being reported as the suspect when they re-showed this decades later - that actor isn't bald now. The suspect might be if his hair was thinning 30 years ago.

[@tjc89]

It's quite startling how someone probably/quite simply just walked into Julie Paceys house in broad daylight and rubbed her out like chalk on a whiteboard then after sexually assaulting and strangling her walked off into obscurity. All the while their was no sign of struggle , she was wierdly fully clothed, no forced entry and the DNA traced in 2015 isn't on the national database so either the assailant is a psychopath who covers his tracks very well or something is seriously wrong with how this crime has been investigated.

[@johnniethepom2905]

I've always thought Julie Pacey murder was committed by a member of the Travelling community. I don't for one second think she was having an affair or knew her killer . Asking for directions was a common ruse or excuse for being somewhere you shouldn't be in those days , couldn't do it nowadays cause of SatNav . Possibly a man unable to father children or Familia DNA might break the case. Where ever the assailant come from he knew his purpose before he left home that morning and had indeed been planning it for sometime. Almost certainly still alive but leading a very careful life , sly enough to gauge he could still be caught. Lives within a 60 mile radius.

[@johnniethepom2905]

TB89 , what leads you to believe she was still fully clothed after the assault and didn't put up a struggle ?

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

Similar to Jacqueline Palmer Radford's murder from 1992.

[@pjsmith2744]

@@johnniethepom2905what evidence have you got that points it being someone of the travelling community? Did they camp in the area frequently?

[@pjsmith2744]

@@johnniethepom2905maybe he did it!?

[@ryandaly1146]

I am starting to have withdrawal syndromes, please Redcard upload some new Crimewatch episodes, from 1995.

[@jigsey.]

Two murders in Grantham in the same year.. Never solved, was there a link

[@scottspeed3431]

That kid playing daniel I'm sure is the actor Bronson Webb, he was in the very first game of thrones opening scene.

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

My heart breaks for Danial’s family makes me cry Xx 😢😢

[@westminsterwatcher5152]

The case of Stanley Nicholls was absolutely tragic and remains unsolved. His brother, Gordon, couldn't cope with it and became a recluse and was the victim of anti-social behaviour so bad, that he would only leave his house through the back door. Ended up collapsing in his flat and died in 2012, he was only discovered by police after a call from a concerned neighbour who hadn't seen him in months.

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

This channel is being trolled relentlessly by *Nathan Illescu.* Please report him.

[@ajs41]

Who's Nathan Illescu?

[@contessaanthrope5775]

oh who cares , so someone says something you don't like, don't read it or respond. Why you gotta run and tell the teacher, like a little puss.?? Grow a set.

[@futureisgosub]

The actor who played the "man in dungarees" was actually questioned by police himself for the Julie Pacey murder.

[@Psycho18C]

Thanks to stupid viewers.

[@jazzyhomelife2093]

Such a weird case julie pacey murder. I was around Grantham at the time and everyone saw the suspect the week before and all agree the E fit was perfect. But he has never been found, I think he knew julie and was there to kill her. He didn't go to any other address

[@tjc89]

@@jazzyhomelife2093 It's quite startling how someone probably/quite simply just walked into Julie Paceys house in broad daylight and rubbed her out like chalk on a whiteboard then after sexually assaulting and strangling her walked off into obscurity. All the while their was no sign of struggle , she was wierdly fully clothed, no forced entry and the DNA traced in 2015 isn't on the national database so either the assailant is a psychopath who covers his tracks very well or something is seriously wrong with how this crime has been investigated.

[@davidwacko6623]

fucked up murderers who kill for no reason sould be electrcuted

[@janettemohan5056]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-34218343 Steve Watson was cleared as a result of his DNA test. .

[@celiaw5426]

Hi, I see you've got a very large and impressive collection of Crimewatch episodes. Do you happen to have any Ep's from later in the 90's?

[@redcard7475]

Hi, I have uploaded everything I currently have. I may have other episodes from the late 90s and possibly early 2000s. Might be a while though before I get them on here.

[@celiaw5426]

@@redcard7475 It's a good collection. I'm looking for an episode from 1996. If you could help or possibly look to see if you have it I would be so very grateful. I can explain in more detail why and exactly which Ep privately - we'd be able to pay a small fee to cover your time looking. Not sure whether KZbin has a DM ystem but my personal email is [e-mail]

[@Craig_whyte]

redcard74 any episodes of cosworths being involved with armed robberies? So far found one from September 1994 at a jewellers.

[@rs-qt1qg]

@@Craig_whyte theres one from may 1993 (I think) which involved a cosworth in an armed robbery on a dairy. It had only done 17 miles when recovered.

[@meskbren]

The Julie Pacey murder is a very strange case. Firstly, I think the BMW lead is a red herring of some sort. Why would Julie drive one around and not tell anyone in her family about it. I do, however, believe the acquaintance who saw the BMW go into her driveway on the day. There could be a connection although Julie was seen after this sighting. 'Overalls Man' is the most likely culprit. Especially if the neighbour around the corner saw him running after Julie's car shortly before the murder. Perhaps he was doing a rec on the Friday when the girl saw him? I also wonder if there is a link between this and the Sharon Harper murder, also in Grantham a few months before. They only link appears to be they both occured in a relatively small town a few months apart as the modus operandi seem to be different. Whatever happened I hope both Julie and Sharon's loved ones see justice done soon.

[@alex123case]

Another unsolved, I'm shocked how many still remain unsolved.

[@domoreilly3887]

@@alex123case Bear in mind that these are the hardest crimes to solve and that's why they turned to Crimewatch. I think the clear up rates for murders in the UK is over 90%

[@stephenholmes1036]

Julie Pacey was seen using a 5 series BMW by numerous people who knew her.

[@CARLIN4737]

Having an affair maybe? Still unsolved 2023@@stephenholmes1036

[@LosAngelesRaiders]

So for me, access to a BMW 5-series (which was certainly worth more than her own Audi at the time and quite a car) and being actually seen driving this BMW around her own estate yet her own husband had no idea of this suggests that she may been having an extramarital relationship with someone who owned that car, possibly some sort of businessman, she may have tried to bring about some pressure or blackmail against this person where they may had to silence her using some paid hitman? Yes, I know it sounds very TV drama like but it isn't like these things don't happen. The internet (for the public at least) let alone Facebook or camera phones didn't really exist then, so gossip could be easily offset, or, Julie and her husband had open relationships but kept it quiet because of the children?

[@tech9auto223]

I was just like Danny and growing up in the East end of Glasgow knowing what I know now I think I cheated death several times. But for the grace

[@tech9auto223]

@MulberryEllie yes shettleston and parkhead are rough and it's getting worse instead of better same with the Carlton

[@Nick-uy8jm]

This is by far one of the worst offences ever what that child went through.also not forgetting his.family and friends..god bless . buddy

[@patriciaoreilly8907]

Really sad 😔 no child should have to go through what he went through pure evil .

[@anthonylittler1701]

Hi redcard great job. Do u upload any rough justice or trial and error? Ther are some on the net but alot are missing... Would make great addition to your excellent crimewatch viewing 👍

[@ryandaly1146]

Hi redcard, please could you upload CW December 1994, Andy has uploaded it but its only partial, only last 30 minutes of the programme.

[@ajs41]

Sorry about the short length of the programme.

[@leeannmansfield5254]

Keep back doors locked at sll times...i do

[@mollyhorse]

Daniel was just so adorable....does anyone know if someone was caught for his murder? What a dreadful world we live in when such a beautiful child can't be safe to do child things....normal childhood things that we all did at that age...his poor mum. Poor poor mum..just read they did catch the evil bastards..

[@lukewilly]

Jenna Nicholson yes 2 previously convicted paedophiles. Google it

[@charlottejade8056]

An looks like a drug user seemed to me that kid was always out n about n the mother had no clue where he was

[@elizabethhenry6605]

@@quagmirewasere Yeah. I think the onus is on the perpetrators to not go around killing people, rather than the mother. Regardless of who she's having sex with. And as a 90's kid myself, I can tell you we were all allowed to go running around our local area. I was out with my friends all the damn time.

[@isaz597]

@@elizabethhenry6605 well said. It was a different time. That keyboard warrior is out order. Typical bigot.

[@joeanderson7316]

i hope you burn in hell with that comment

[@rtd8860]

If I remember correctly did they do a crimewatch file on Daniel handley case?

[@ryandaly1146]

If anyone has the crimewatch file episodes please upload them.

[@rtd8860]

Just checked IMDb and looks as if it was 2part crimewatch file around feb 1999 does anyone have it @redcard74 do u have it?

[@StewSpaull]

I just checked Wikipedia about the case (haven't watched this upload yet) and recognised the names of the perpetrators because I watched the CW File when it was originally transmitted. An utterly horrific case. I also remember that one of the actors in the CW File - a distinctive-looking chap, who played one of the killers - had previously been in Paul McKenna's TV show, in which McKenna hypnotised people and they made fools of themselves. (Or not, perhaps, if actors were being used.)

[@rtd8860]

Stewart Spaull I cant believe I missed this CWUK file I was an avid viewer from 1998 onwards so surprised I missed this. My earliest memory was the guy who got murdered on the London bus around 1998/99 there was an argument on the bus and the guy got stabbed think it was in south London

[@LALakersNornIron]

@@rtd8860 That case the bus murder in South East London stayed with me for years. I think the victim was Herbie somebody. A christian man. They caught the killer eventually. The scumbag.

[@lisasuzannekear-ranby8101]

What a shame ..such a lovely little lad ...rip sweetheart 💔

[@lw3646]

15:49 the poor actor ended up becoming a suspect apparently....

[@sandytighe4854]

Wow this is a great program! First time I've seen it.

[@mkhan5241]

Un u

[@gujh03]

Where you from ? Everyone has heard of this in UK unless you’re very young.

[@sandytighe4854]

gujh03 US and I'm in my early 50's.

[@gujh03]

@@sandytighe4854 The first series up until 1997/98 are the best then the program went downhill. Sometimes they beat a crimr movie/novel. Sort ok keep you guessing who did it.

[@sandytighe4854]

gujh03 Thank you!

[@ryandaly1146]

Hi Redcard, please could you upload Crimewatch December 1994. Andy JS did uploaded it a few weeks back, however it was only partial, and featured the last 30 minutes. If you have the full episode of December 1994, please could you put it on here. Also January 1995 HAVE ALREADY BEEN UPLOADED by Andy as well. MAY, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER 1995 HAVE ALSO ALREADY BEEN UPLOADED by Andy and other KZbin users. Please upload February 1995, March and April 1995, and December 1995. Also please upload June 1995, it is been uploaded a few years back, but the first ten minutes of it is missing. You be onto 1996 before we know it. Kind Regards Ryan.

[@CARLIN4737]

Crystal clear uploads. Cracking 😉

[@charlottejade8056]

Redcard74 your a legend not seen any these would of only been 4 at the time! 😘

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

You're a legend, and would HAVE been 4 at the time!

[@stuartwilcock8113]

Enjoy the old crimewatch

[@mmc11512]

Does anyone remember the case of the little kids who saved their friend from being abducted by a women? Can't remember the episode.

[@CatLowe50]

It's the November 1990 episode

[@mmc11512]

Cheers!

[@noellegunning3301]

Cat L your better than Gail trimble!!

[@noellegunning3301]

Michael McGhee Blonde haired, with a man in a Volvo car?

[@gower23]

There's a cruel undertone in the commentary here on the Ken Brown murder, writing "business partner" (with quotation marks) to suggest some kind of unwholesome relationship. Smutty innuendo is not warranted.

[@annamarielewis7078]

Any update on little Danny?

[@Alessiasbackheal]

Are u serious

[@3littlemaids1]

I've seen the following actors in reconstructions. Mike from only fools, the cook in you rang my lord , Hilda braid, nanna moon, and Alistair from as time goes by

[@ianbousfield5007]

I've seen mr Gordon from Dads army and cilla from coronation street

[@09weenic]

Alison Blackwell Mickey Pearce from OFAH was also in a reconstruction

[@meggriffin94]

- Sarah-Jane Potts (been in many British TV shows and films) - Tony Hirst (Mike Barnes from Hollyoaks and Paul the fireman from Corrie) - Marcus Bentley (Big Brother narrator) played a murder victim called Paul Logan in February 1994 episode. - Dominic Brunt (Paddy from Emmerdale) was in the Fred Maltby reconstruction on Crimewatch File. He also played a man who tries to help a victim in a reconstruction of a failed robbery.

[@adedamolaadeleke1316]

Who would let seriously a child aged only eight for going off alone?

[@patriciaoreilly8907]

Latch key kids .

[@SerenDipity64711]

it was a different time back then and children were given a lot of freedom. Eight years old is still too young though, I agree.

[@HdHd-hp6qz]

Single mothers

[@stfitness]

Early. I’ll watch this before Villa v Blues!

[@rs-qt1qg]

Anthony Mcken lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@AACE73]

Poor little one. Absolutely devastating. The world was robbed of a good, sweet & kind human being when those monsters took the rest of his life from him. May Sweet Daniel Rest in Peace 🙏🏻🌹xxx

[@HdHd-hp6qz]

Crocodile shooooes crocodile shoes. The nostalgia is immense.

[@LANCSKID]

Woyoy man!

[@Psycho18C]

The stupidity of some people is alarming, they appealed again on the Julie Pacey murder and the IDIOTIC viewers gave the name of the actor. >:(

[@dissonantdreams]

That’s got me thinking, actually! I wonder how CW went about recruiting actors for their reconstructions back in the day? Obviously I assume the cops would have briefed them on each perp’s reported physical description before casting. But considering both organisations were appealing for people with the same characteristics, I wonder if they ever shared resources? How weird would it be if it turned out a murderer had actually ended up playing themselves and reliving their crime in a Crimewatch reconstruction, mere months after doing it for real??? 😳🤭🤯

[@rs-qt1qg]

Sarah Sea some of the actors were actually police officers. An example of this was in the penny bell reconstruction. One of the builders was actually a DC who appeared on another appeal

[@bethhagues7686]

I’ve seen nana moon on one of em

[@zebbedi]

@@dissonantdreams The actor answered an advertisement. Has since been cleared by DNA.

[@IanP1963]

@@bethhagues7686 I have seen The Moon on some of them !!!!

[@NoirL.A.]

i'm yankee but i've been a true crime buff and a gorehead since long before the internet (i'm 55) and for years i would've loved to see true crime stuff from other countries but it was non existent on american tv (you think the american media is insular now ya shouda seen it then) and either way this show was about solving u.k. crimes so there wouda been no point in showing it on american tv but now that i have youtube i absolutely adore these older crimewatch episodes. the acting is excellent and the lack of background music makes it much eerier and almost like yer there as it's happening. this and the american 'UNSOLVED MYSTERIES' are i think the two best shows of their kind.

[@soulbrother61]

Evening all

[@stevepest3184]

2 mins 46 was lad who helped market guy in flats few months before episode

[@Nixter1974007]

Always loved the wanted faces on Photocall. Some right bad eggs on there.

[@ianpilkington2037]

I can't be the only one who thinks that the pic used of Julie Pacey looks a hell of a lot like Jill Dando

[@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022]

Yes , she's striking . Like Jill , I always thought Suzy lamplugh had a resemblance to Jill too , especially one particular photo . Ironically her car was found at the end of Jill's road . 13 years before her untimely murder .

[@ianpilkington2037]

@@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 On Gowan Avenue?

[@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022]

@@ianpilkington2037 Stevenage road I think . Just off Gowan avenue.

[@ianpilkington2037]

@@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 Ah ok

[@etherealdreams7936]

​@@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022I think Stevenage road is where her car was found. Gowan avenue is on the other side of Fulham Palace road.

[@lynnscotland1787]

Them gunmen frightened me to bleeding death 😵

[@LANCSKID]

When did some bright spark in the CW production team suddenly have a lightbulb moment and suggest that it might be quite a good idea to have the 0500 600 600 number displayed _throughout_ the programme?

[@jamescokl3]

Shame about Julie. She was beautiful. They still haven't solved it.

[@secretchocaddictabused9351]

Lots of crimes I’ve noticed since starting the series on you tube are in Lincoln /Bristol / London .

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

You forgot Liverpool ...........

[@tjc89]

Who scouts for a murder on Thursday yet comes back on a Monday? That tells me Julie Pacey knew her killer. Educated guess. Also the mystery of the Blue Aldi and the Running Man is bizarre

[@johnniethepom2905]

TB89 can you please expand on your educated guess .

[@DeanBall75]

Another mystery with the Ken Brown murder. Maybe a professional job? Those guys in the woods were a little eerie but I think the 'poachers' could be a red herring, along with the sighting of the Mercedes?

[@ianbousfield5007]

Apparently ken brown had beefed up the security around his house and was fearful of someone .Police believe it was a professional hit

[@Bloxdio_God]

he probably turned someone over or was using his business for less than legitimate means. Surprised his "mate" didn't have any clues.

[@09weenic]

Dean Ball Yeh strange case Also I think they were more than just business partners!

[@memoir4you]

Yes ,very mysterious & sinister Ken's death. It was interesting his 'business partner ' mentioned that Ken could be quite ruthless in business ; so had a past business deal resulted in someone or some people holding a serious grudge ?

[@domoreilly3887]

@@memoir4you That's what I thought.

[@sandytighe4854]

Just subscribed!!

[@adedamolaadeleke1316]

Daniel he would now look much different age 37 he would now be if still alive

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

4:35 BIG BOSS MAN AGAINST DEMOLITION SMASH!!!!!!!! ;*O

[@adedamolaadeleke6228]

This girl passed away quickly the day.

[@tjc89]

If Dungarees Man in the Julie Pacey Murder was doing a dummy run on the friday why would he knock? Unless he knew her.

[@johnniethepom2905]

He knew of her but shedidn't know him . She definitely wasn't having an affair . I doubt the BMW sightings and would suggest the killers mode of transport was more likely a plain colour transit sized van . I hope the Police send the DNA off for ancestral profiling soon . It may well narrow the search considerably. Not only did the killer destroy a decent woman and her family , but the idea that the daughter found the body is just heartbreaking .

[@IanP1963]

@@johnniethepom2905 Why do you doubt the BMW sightings ?

[@johnniethepom2905]

@@IanP1963 the BMW doesn't fit . Mrs Pacey certainly wasn't driving it even if there was one in the area . If there was one on her driveway it belonged to the murderer . This case should have been solved .

[@IanP1963]

@@johnniethepom2905 Are you saying the BMW is a red herring then ?

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@johnniethepom2905 How do you know she 'definitely' wasn't having an affair???? More than one person said they saw her in the BMW, they all can't have been mistaken.

[@adedamolaadeleke1316]

Not actually really that young the kid was nine well still quite dangerous.

[@adedamolaadeleke6228]

Well this example anthony martinez i've covered too

[@documentaries51214]

nice story

[@LANCSKID]

Saint Nick: I gather that the man you are looking for has a beer belly and I also gather that he has mousy hair. I gather that he comes from Liverpool with connections to Bristol, and I also gather that he has a distinct Irish accent? Detective Gormless: Yes, Nick, you gather correctly. Saint Nick: Thank-you. Actually, I am very good at gathering, or so I gather.

[@adedamolaadeleke6228]

Also on lee rigby never forgotten

[@adedamolaadeleke1316]

April tinsley who's heard about her the month from in the 1980s

[@BossySwan]

Sliding into your DMs like 37:25

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

You wrote this before on another vid, and no-one knows what you mean. Fancy explaining to us .........

[@celiaw5426]

Or recommendations of others who might if you don't? Very grateful for any help

[@simondavies4834]

Crocodile Shoes!!

[@ianbousfield5007]

I also used to be a big fan of spender.It's never repeated sadly

[@Peter-ix1ym]

I have spender on dvd it was recorded by someone on uk drama. If you write to them maybe they will show them again.

[@ianbousfield5007]

Thanks for that info.Just found some episodes on youtube luckily

[@Peter-ix1ym]

No problem, are you a school teacher? I had a school teacher with the same name

[@ianbousfield5007]

No ,I'm not a teacher

[@adedamolaadeleke6228]

Had crossed the streets for a good reason

[@tjc89]

Someone needs to Do what @Redcard74 has done for Crimewatch Cataloguing on KZbin for TOTP weekly episodes

[@redcard7475]

TOTP is difficult because YT keep blocking performances due to copyright.

[@tjc89]

@@redcard7475 that article 13 is a bad thing too

[@redcard7475]

You can get loads of shows from TOTP 1968 to 1987 here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1m5iTGsuPG2uy-k1awEGJDr0EsxzmhVyp?fbclid=IwAR2mQilE-Hr5ZmUkbVDT-DVHMcSYZA9bsCbxVGaedjth6v6sTXCxaGhHPo0

[@adedamolaadeleke6228]

Honestly only at just eight years old.

[@adedamolaadeleke6228]

Aged 10 years old

[@adedamolaadeleke6228]

Christopher barrios jr also the kriss donald case i covered

[@McIntyreBible]

33:08, it appears that he was a thoughtful employer!

[@quagmirewasere]

Rip Daniel I'm sorry but he was 9 who lets a 9 year old wander around etc I have a 9 year old and would never let her wander around alone ffs

[@TheLala114]

NICK DUFFY. I was just a little older then Danny at the time and went to school in the same area. It was a different time, before people became as aware of all the sickos in the world. We all walked around freely back then.

[@TheOne-fe8wk]

Yeah it was a different time. I used to walk from Chiswick to Brentford leisure centre around the same time and I was 9 also. I wouldn’t let my 9 year old do it. Tbh it was probably less safe then because there wasn’t as much cctv so people could get away with it. Either way, 25 years ago or today, no 9 year should really be left to his own devices in the city. But unfortunately crimes like this are lessons to society.

[@isaz597]

I was a little older than him at the time but I remember in those days we all thought we were safe. People still kept doors unlocked those days. In reality there plenty of weirdos like today. I think there's much more awareness due to media coverage of events

[@annamarielewis7078]

Times were so very different.

[@Jimwoodward1212]

Malcolm Eynon is your announcer

[@LANCSKID]

I really don’t care.

[@adedamolaadeleke6228]

A soldier

[@kevintraynor4508]

Some people with asbergegus syndrome can be to trusting of other people not sure if Daniel was . But the way he was described as having a trusting nature. Sounds like sombody on the asbergegus spectrum.

[@LANCSKID]

Er, I think you mean Asperger’s Syndrome.

[@paulpaxton8402]

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN NEW UPLOAD PLEASE THANKS REDCARD 74

[@Rick_Cleland]

😔😔😔

[@xperia1ii755]

That bloke's expression at 27:31 lol

[@BossySwan]

35:59 I’m just waiting for a mate

[@quagmirewasere]

Jacqui hames is bang tidy 😁😁

[@09weenic]

NICK DUFFY she still is !

[@LANCSKID]

@@09weenicGet in the queue, please, I saw her first!

[@adedamolaadeleke6228]

At hospital

[@karljones1905]

It can happen to anyone I once came across a estate montego in middle of Cannock chase Betty spot miles in we were in cadets we snuck up saw people having sex but what was odd was there was a police man in full uniform standing at front of car. He saw us an gave chase I got away my mate was caught an taken to shugbourer hall were he was question Ed on what we saw .an they let him go Nxt day. Rich jaw means to do anything

[@rtd8860]

Anyone thinks it’s strange that Julie Pacey was in the bmw but her family didn’t know why she was in a bmw do u think this could be linked to her death

[@CatLowe50]

Very strange, especially as the implication is that she was driving it, and nobody seemed to have mentioned anyone being in the car with her. I take it that part of the mystery was never solved?

[@tjc89]

@@CatLowe50 where did she go out to, to where/whom and why?

[@Bloxdio_God]

I reckon she was having an affair with the man and she told the kid a cock and bull story about directions as the kid saw the man in case she told her daughter or husband.

[@rtd8860]

John Doyle the man in the reconstruction doesn’t look like he wud have owned a BMW unless he stole the BMW after he murdered her

[@johnniethepom2905]

I 100% guarantee she wasn't having an affair. She was murdered by someone who briefly encountered her sometime before the crime . It could have been someone who called door to door touting for property maintenance / block paving etc . It could be the garage or dealership where they bought or serviced their car . Most likely the killer was not the principal ie point of sale car salesman but a mechanic or car valet gardener etc . He could well be a traveling fella or second hand car salesman. He would almost certainly frequent car auctions , markets , horse sales . Still believe this case is solvable. The culprit is probably 55 to 60 yrs old now . Unless he has met with an untimely death he's still out there . I don't think he has reoffended for two reasons 1 , the feelings he achieved from commiting the crime were below his expectations and left him unfulfilled. 2 He doesn't live locally but he lives within an hour or so drive and is still fearful of someone making the vital connection .