Are the GRENINJA BUFFS for WATER SHURIKEN finally enough?! | Pokemon Unite

[@charbelz0rb433]

I wish shurikens had more synergy with Unite move. Gren's unite deals enough damage to get most enemies below half hp, which is good for surf, but shurikens don't feel all that impactful

[@lloydter]

I would disagree on it. Bcoz gren's unite let you reposition which helps with shuriken. Of course surf has superior synergy but shuriken too benifit enough from it.

[@pengdaw2nd]

Why does it need more synergy? Its a big aoe nuke just like Venusaur, Cinderace, Leafeon, and other mons. The only synergy it needs is making sure the Pokemon its on has enough kill pressure when the time comes

[@blueblood7653]

Greninja is a "hybrid" pokemon. When you use the build with double team and water shuriken you have to use the melee version of Greninja a lot: "In melee, Greninja's auto attacks instead deal bonus damage equal to 5% missing HP. Boosted melee attacks also dash through the primary target and increases the missing HP damage to 10%." So, you use the unite move and then, fight them close (using shurikens to slow down them). The melee combat of Greninja is like surf (saving distances). If you learn to use it well, for me this is the best build because it has everything :)

[@setk99]

This buff just gives more reason to play surf/ double team.

[@yalegreninja]

I wish Smokescreen got a cooldown decrease buff, its invisibility effect is ridiculous compared to other abilities and there is no reason to be a 13-seconds-cooldown move. Also, Substitute should be able to bypass the first jungle wall and the Unite move cooldown should be 123 seconds or something like that

[@ushabalaji2979]

As a greninja main I play surf smokescreen I totally accept what you told and I just passed hundred matches and I get at least 12 KO

[@Belesprit656]

I think smokescreen is 12 seconds but yeah, it could use a small buff.

[@pengdaw2nd]

Its 13 seconds because its invisibility is ridiculous. If the cooldown is too short then Greninja could pretty much escape any encounter or sneak into objectives too often. I agree a small cooldown buff would be nice but it has to be long in the first place because invisibility is such a powerful mechanic, not to mention the blinding smokescreen.

[@yalegreninja]

@@pengdaw2nd Yes, but most of the times you want to use the move to escape or to have a dash. Decreasing the cooldown to 10 seconds would be fine

[@stxllxn]

substitute can bypass the jungle wall, just not the center part you have to go to the small wall on the left or right

[@YosiahW]

4:45 I don't think Clefable is too fast, it just had gap and gets movements speed when it uses moonlight.

[@sambrushaber528]

Since you get CDR on boosted w Greninja I just run rapid fire over scope and hard kite. I use the unite as a finisher after a shuriken combo instead of an engage

[@Eragon_RH]

Yeah I feel like with surf Unite move can be an engage the finish off with surf for resets But with water shuriken it's better as a finisher onto specific targets

[@StoicForce]

You can tell that Cris is a Surf Greninja with little experience on Water Shuriken. Great advice for those who want to learn Water Shuriken, I was about to comment the same.

[@judesliggoo]

CrisVillains be like: I love playing Greninja!

[@XParasiteOctoling]

When you play Greninja during these times, you have to put so much effort just to an alright amount of damage. Kinda sad

[@dave9515]

Just happy they gave greninja his slow on WS back. Also charging charm might help weak mons compete with stronger mons better given it actually does increase attack a very good amount. Unite finally giving us more options.

[@jase87]

3:05 that fast turnaround and the parade walking down lololol

[@victorangelogabriel]

Is this emblem build good for most atk adcs like dura, cinder, and decidueye? I saw you use this on drag as well

[@princejc0109]

The biggest reason shuriken doesn’t match surf is cus the frames of tossing them doing chip damage doesn’t compare to the insanely fast burst of surf

[@markcrofut8631]

8:05. His clefables ult lol

[@Temari999]

they should make it so that if you hit all the shurikens on one person, it stuns or bonus damage or both

[@SilentVinyl]

Still needs more buffs

[@Phantomshift0]

As a squishy enjoyer I am displeased that this squishy killer is buffed again

[@shredded_cheese]

Not sure why theres been a sudden increase in psyshock gardevoir, i see one in every game for like the past two weeks

[@Erinyes]

Because moonblast. Needed it for mimikyu

[@oceanokelly8097]

Cause of the free ability skins they just came out with 😅 just a guess

[@xano_shark09]

charging charm+critaslash=good?

[@nopt1861]

In Asia, I see a lot of double team surf in solo queue and somehow these player always do over 80k damage

[@anantajitghosh1519]

Most played pokemon of mine always use this build

[@manujmudgal9878]

Atleast greninja players are not fully griefing now!

[@boxohscladljadjofwownxosnxREAL]

had 27 kos with it seems good now

[@FTotox]

Rigatoni was back

[@ferzeln]

It mostly the same, make the shuriken much more faster like hayate from aov or give it the passive like blaziken passive for every shuriken hit

[@furfekkia93]

I Agree. More dps if they don't want to give us more range

[@tryfergoodra552]

Is the balance patch already in game?

[@CrisHeroes]

Yes

[@julianbrandhofer644]

I wish they rework or buff bubble it is so bad

[@santajohnsduraorduraclause4678]

Quick question, when ripping and objecting for greninja do you use close basic attacks or ranged?

[@StoicForce]

If you're uncontested, close deals more damage (keep in mind the third attack will make you swap sides). If the enemy team is there, stick to range and look for openings to deter them.

[@santajohnsduraorduraclause4678]

@@StoicForce alright, thank you

[@chandrashekhar4236]

Me who dominating with greninja before buffs 💀

[@tkbreen1381]

Still mid, no reason to play a glass cannon that does *ok* damage

[@XParasiteOctoling]

And takes a lot of effort to actually do good damage

[@dave9515]

Hows the dragapult buffs? I hear Dragapult might have been overtuned. Also Charging Charm is the best attack item to be added to the game. @@XParasiteOctoling

[@XParasiteOctoling]

@@dave9515 Dragapult buffs were great, a bit overturned though

[@juan-mm7wz]

So much crying in this video.

[@jonathanho267]

Next week video: Blizzard a9 and Surf greninja are still the best build

[@jimmyraniwantotrisnadi5629]

Greninja player are back baby

[@HeviTank]

You posting this video scares me to see more lane grenijas in my game😢 But do love the video.

[@skaterdl8966]

No cinder buff feels bad.

[@felipegmrqs]

Shuriken could have a crit chance, obviously lower than basic attacks' but dependent on Gren's crit rate

[@azucarbih]

El sapito ninja de la aldea de la hojaaa

[@aejazalijafri4423]

You play very good game you are very awesome

[@SleepyBuggo]

Honestly doesn’t feel like anything, doesn’t really change how his health is quite pathetic and how he can’t really engage in most of the newer moms which you’re gonna see *cough* *cough* umbreon, and how many other attackers do his job but better. And I’m not even talking about Inteleon I’m looking at mew glaceon and some speedsters. He’s just so outclassed it’s not even funny

[@Tony_Toni_Tone]

I suggest switching one of your items to a defensive item. Do you think that'd be better? Lol

[@CrisHeroes]

nah

[@dragoniteisbased]

Gren is so squishy that defensive items don’t help it survive much longer in a fight. You’re better off maximizing your damage

[@syntheticvi]

What’s the build?

[@CrisHeroes]

isnt it in the video?

[@KokichiGrimleal_058]

It is in the video? What are you two smoking on?

[@sourajeetdutta6617]

@@KokichiGrimleal_058 oh my bad

[@geordixD]

MrMine build please

[@karan9927]

Anyway there were a lot of Greninja players but now there would be more hope now they don’t turn out to be liabilities!!

[@youtubereclipse2472]

Final out!

[@talonitex6441]

The greninja buff was a huge nothing burger it seriously needs more damage other attacker’s deal 100k plus damage with a full stacked attack weight

[@cinderare]

I believe Cris hate Greninja, I feel he hates water shuriken build

[@world.prince]

Hi! ❤️❤️

[@CheemsVinh]

he became average gren player behaviour when playing greninja: -miss ult -ripping ray this comment is just a joke please don't be mad about it, l o l

[@Dr4kiZaR]

Water Shuriken still feels terrible

[@andrewgood7586]

All they did was buff speed and speed reduction on enemy. Its a fake buff. Gren still sucks.

[@DoinkDeetus]

They should buff shurikens to pierce

[@mobagametroll]

I agree, or extend double team dash length

[@Skeletonpie.]

They do splash damage

[@DoinkDeetus]

@@Skeletonpie. not good enough for me 😤

[@mothmyszalgo]

DITTO FOR UNITE WHEN!!

[@Soloplayee]

Can you Start Live Sometime🎉

[@CrisHeroes]

www.twitch.tv/crisheroes

[@Badger_666]

Short answer- no.

[@redofredocap3000]

Phrog!

[@AayuRk28]

Now I am less sad about greninja trash buffs but more sad coz Cris wasn't satisfied to play greninja😔. I wish that day comes when Cris actually says greninja is best and better than ever lol. I m really hoping for that day to come.

[@lightningmcking1234]

no matter the healing greninja so frail 😂

[@Leo-cf8ur]

Don't be surprised in my 2years Pokemon unite I have never used greninja and cinderace TBH

[@absolvt_]

Double Team Surf is underrated

[@gilbertbarraza871]

Lol watching your vids on 2x is nauseating sometimes.

[@abderrahmanezerouali735]

gg

[@kber209]

新賽季超難打 shoot

[@SoulWithController]

Shurikens needs an auto lock imo

[@ramirez020]

This buff was not necessary at all greninja was great, the problem is that people don't know how to use it

[@SleepyBuggo]

Ya mean it offers almost nothing? Unless the enemy team is super squishy?

[@BurtHandsome]

Shuriken + Scarf is better and you have to be pretty accurate with Shuriken for it to be effective

[@SnPnibba]

Bruh, everytime I see a comment like this I get sad af. He's not viable, please timmi give us some actual buff instead of whatever this was.

[@Servalsno1fan]

omg it's the pro Greninja 😱😱😱😱😱

[@ramirez020]

@@Servalsno1fan dude hahaha I never say I was pro, I'm far from being pro, but I reach master always with greninja, I don't think he needed a buff