I’m personally not a huge fan of telekinesis is SoloQ, especially if I know I have bad teammates like this game. Amnesia/Surf allows you to have great survivability while still CC’ing your opponents for combo potential.
@fxg_agentgeno55495 ай бұрын
yea fighting like 3 to 4 people at once stalling them
@FrancoBG5 ай бұрын
Chris: "Surf is better" *proceeds to die endlessly*
@pigzard015 ай бұрын
Looks like Eject button didn't help him avoid it either.
@GxEnjoyer5 ай бұрын
They hard fed Dragapult and even if he was Scald unless you are a brainless Dpult you can easily dodge it
@Oliver-uz1fs5 ай бұрын
And that's why you play slowbro with focus band
@monster33395 ай бұрын
@@Oliver-uz1fsyeah i didnt quite get the muscle band choice. in a situation like this where im the ONLY bulk on the team, im going FULL tank. resonant + focus (and id personally go amnesia over telekinesis for this match too bc, as good as having a mini-slowbeam is, id favor the sustain), but like. i wont pretend to be better at the game than cris ahaha
@monster33395 ай бұрын
@@pigzard01tbf, the eject is more so for the eject -> slowbeam combo than for escaping. i understand the rationale. similar reason why i run it on crustle; eject + rock tomb. you thought you were out of range and could escape? no. :)
@Gaming_God_YT_5 ай бұрын
Bro got so many slowbro ults so he decided to be slowbro himself 🤣🤣
@Giodude0425 ай бұрын
@morgandavies97765 ай бұрын
It feels a bit like scald is better against bulky physical attackers (chomp, ttar, dark bear, sword, etc) surf is better against the frail assassins (ceruledge, dragon dance pult, speedsters, etc). It’s just about whether you want to potentially eliminate damage or accept you’ll take some and try to minimize it. Eject into ult is very much correct and will hear no argument against it,
@DaFlyingSeal5 ай бұрын
Don’t ever play scald into sword bro. I’m warning you, cause if you try to use scald he could easily cc you to cancel the move making it useless. Not to mention how unpredictable his movement with boosteds is. You better off going surf in that one
@j_r285 ай бұрын
Nah! 60% reduction on scald is obviously better. I beg you cris stop gaslighting an already stupid player base. They will blindly play surf. The stuns of surf are literally USELESS as compared to scald against Blaziken, Lucario, Dark urshifu, Garchomp, Char unite, Umbreon etc. Heal reduction and scald have area effect, and the mons I mentioned above and many more have unstoppable on them. But scald always burns no matter what, you can literally reduce the damage of Overheat, char unite, Garchomp unite by 60%. And reduce heals in an area effect at the same time.
@pranavarunkumar34485 ай бұрын
As a blue badge slowbro main I 100% agree, reducing damage is much better if enemy teams has such high dmg potential dragapult and chomp both have insanse dps and being able to reduce that by 60% is much more useful than stuns, since full heal and unstoppable moves like dragon rush can negate them completely
@rutherfordmylerang52785 ай бұрын
I guess depends on the enemies as well
@pigzard015 ай бұрын
@@pranavarunkumar3448 I guess that explains why he gets rekt when dragapult finds him alone in this game, lol.
@DaFlyingSeal5 ай бұрын
@@pranavarunkumar3448And as a golden slowbro main since launch, the move selection should usually be done on a case by case basis depending on what the enemy team is susceptible to. That being said though, I believe surf has more use cases in general. Sure, surf loses its viability to characters with unstoppable on demand like machamp, dark bear, umbreon,etc. But it more than makes up for it with how oppressive Surf+ is in late game teamfights against most of the mons in game. Not to mention scald has its own much more easily exploitable weakness in its susceptibility to cc which is incredibly abundant in this game (They don’t call it Stunite for no reason after all). Surf by contrast can be used into cc while still coming out in pretty much all cases but stomp Tsareena. On top of this, most teams aren’t running full full heal nor do they have full cc immune mons and in most cases they do they’ve comped terribly but even mons that do have unstoppable can just be dealt with the one move that we all agree makes the bro broken. Ultimately, surf should be used against mons dependent on using their abilities in close range, divers, and characters with oppressive level of stuns and scald should be used against mons that can largely bypass stuns.
@Caw505 ай бұрын
Just wanna clarify that it reduces their attack by 60%, which is not the same as reducing damage dealt by 60%. I still like both moves and think you can have fun and win either way
@franziskahs37125 ай бұрын
As a Slowbro-Main I always play Surf into characters like Blue Urshifu, Mimikyu and esp. Zororark. Basically those that dash a lot but (most of the time) stay close. I also prefer x speed over eject. (Lower Cooldown and it helps to get to your squishies faster). Regarding Amnesia vs Telekinesis I agree with what people have already said: Telekinesis is difficult in solo queue because u need Teammates that pay attention to what youre doing.
@monster33395 ай бұрын
ayyyy good to know my reason for choosing x speed is valid. i use it to catch up to my teammates (why i run it on eldegoss too) so i can get where i need to on time to protect them. im slowbro, not fastbro! the eject -> slowbeam (or even surf or telekinesis) combo is deffo rad though.
@yeeyang77405 ай бұрын
Slowbro is ultimate apitamy of, "oh you chose something annoying to deal with so i can't have fun? Well neither can you"
@lloydter5 ай бұрын
All the moveset of slowbro is equally viable. They aren't even worth of an argument like many the chatters are engaging in. The selection of scald or surf only depends on what you wanna do with the enemies. If you want to have stun bcoz your team lacks it and teammates that can take advantage out of it like brawly all rounders or you simply want to be a SUPER frontline like trev then go for surf. And if you want to counter the enemy that have insane dps and are not super mobile or just long range attackers that can't easily penetrate your frontline while your team doesn't need stuns that much then go scald. Even if you ignore it and use whatever move you want you will still do fine. Scald 60% reduction and surf+ infinite disruption are both just too good regardless of the comp.
@autobiographicalraps5 ай бұрын
i go surf and eject most of the time now but scald and/or potion can definitely be better depending on the team comp. sometimes you dont need eject, and potion makes lane unloseable sometimes i think the slowbros just need to stop going x speed because i can see them x speeding to ult me and get away before they reach me, then they just end up dying, whereas with eject i wouldnt be able to react and with potion they wouldn't be int'ing like that in the first place
@Scyiclonne5 ай бұрын
Scald damage reduction and surf stun is still dependent on enemy comp right
@moondoor90315 ай бұрын
I don't know why but everytime I play with Slowbro I get KO like a paper, even if I use pretty much defense builds and hp too
@bryce84985 ай бұрын
I like amnesia better because I always miss telekinesis
@StickBruh3rd5 ай бұрын
Skill issue
@breloommaster125 ай бұрын
Just combo Surf into Telekinesis since they can't move
@Linux_Lover4715 ай бұрын
@@StickBruh3rd i had already guessed the reply😂
@PfpbyAleatorikDeviantArt5 ай бұрын
I like amnesia better because it gives you more sustain against bust
@j_r285 ай бұрын
Amnesia is obviously a superior move and you should always pick it when you need defender. Telekinesis also doesn't work on unstoppable targets.
@uwotm849005 ай бұрын
I prefer spoon over muscle band
@dragonmaster9517535 ай бұрын
Surf tele is the best combo and locking down that leafeon was the best demonstration at raigeleki. Instead of "reducing" her damage or making yourself survive longer, you just locked her down to where she did 0 damage and died. Infinitely better than scald or amnesia and anyone saying otherwise isnt good at the game.
@renarddubois9405 ай бұрын
4:50 Slowbro farming indeedee without scald or sp atk specs..
@pigzard015 ай бұрын
Slowbro is such a well made defender that there's no wrong way to run it, it just depends on your playstyle. I'd argue you would've fared just as well if not better in this game if you took scald. In my experience taking surf is better against mons who are vulnerable to microstuns like say a night slash Zoroark or a Ho-oh (it shuts down sky-attack mid flight). As for items I don't like taking eject button I don't really feel that I'm out of position a lot in my games and so I prefer potion so I live longer and more importantly stall for time to fire off another move to heal off my blue health bar.
@daredevil78185 ай бұрын
Hey bro in which league are you ?
@GxEnjoyer5 ай бұрын
Eject button can win important tfs cause bro has no mobility (no dashes, no speed increase) and you can get to the enemy carry, Unite move them and win the match. Potion bro can get kited pretty easily and they can easily reach to your attackers, kill them and then finish you
@daredevil78185 ай бұрын
@@GxEnjoyer yeh i agree with u
@daredevil78185 ай бұрын
@@GxEnjoyer btw in which lieague are u bruv
@GxEnjoyer5 ай бұрын
@@daredevil7818 Master
@StickBruh3rd5 ай бұрын
Scald is best for chipping long range attacker and apply anti-heal with curse item. Surf is best for against melee or dive focus team. But most importantly, you only play slowbro if you are moy or a comfey duo in enemy side. Because Slowbro ult is so broken.
@breloommaster125 ай бұрын
What's moy
@j_r285 ай бұрын
Scald is a superior move, surf is useless into unstoppable targets which are way to many (For example Blaziken, Lucario, Dark urshifu, Char unite, you would get more value out of it) . But scald always applies burn effect reducing 60% damage, heals in an area, and also can secure from a range.
@StickBruh3rd5 ай бұрын
@@j_r28 I agree and I the few people who automatic switch full heal when I see full team of stun.
@jorgehudorovich22445 ай бұрын
@@breloommaster12the slowbro main youtuber
@eddiemasa775 ай бұрын
Or me, I’m the best slow bro to exist
@rickprovost83625 ай бұрын
If you're running surf, there is no reason to take eject button. You already have maneuverability from surf. If you're running Tele, you need to be close anyway. It's range isn't good, and the missile speed is awful. If you run scald, items are Spoon, exp, bell. You get a healing proc every 3rd scald. Scald also has a 4 sec cd. The potion keeps you alive to get off that 3rd scald. Which buys you about 5 more seconds of life and one more scald. There are several ways to play slowbro. You can truly adapt him to any team
@monster33395 ай бұрын
truth.
@guitarshredder4565 ай бұрын
I would argue you only get like a quarter of a dash from surf, and eject + surf to reposition the hitbox in some scenarios (potentially game-winning play in a ray fight) is enough to say there is at least some reason to run those two together. Not saying it’s always the build but definitely wouldn’t say there’s no reason to run it!
@SleepyBuggo4 ай бұрын
Nah eject is super helpful to reposition yourself if you’re in a bad spot or even to get the jump on the carry of the enemy team. Also surf like barely gives you any momentum if anything if it’s at + you can benefit from the stun to run away?
@johnnymanforever5 ай бұрын
Actually y'all might call me crazy but scald and amnesia paired with she ninja doll actually does so much. Hear me out when u use an ability that heals then immediately use the doll u still regain hp while in doll form, or at least used to, haven't played it in a while
@tkbreen13815 ай бұрын
I think surf is better but I drafted scald bro into water urshi trevenant dragapult and had a field day with incense scald, I love playing damage bro
@Just_Anup5 ай бұрын
I always play potion with cookie and focus band. Im too used to being tank now
@StickBruh3rd5 ай бұрын
That explains the questionable build.
@Skeletonpie.5 ай бұрын
@StickBruh3rd "That explains the questionable build"🤓
@CraneCroak5 ай бұрын
To be the most annoyingly unKOable slowbro your opponents ever see.
@GxEnjoyer5 ай бұрын
I mean it's not hard to win games with it cause randoms don't know they have to dodge scald or that they can interrupt it Scald potion bro is a Goodra 2.0, a noob stomper
@onjiponj5 ай бұрын
brother what is the muscle band for? mind as well throw on the cursed incense or slick spoon or anything else also what is up with Telekinesis not working on Eevees when their passive is up. One of the most broken passives yet
@pigzard015 ай бұрын
I guess it translates to more DPS since surf bro can immediately attack after dashing. Although taking telekinesis kinda defeats that purpose too so this would be a good pick for a surf-amnesia build.
@onjiponj5 ай бұрын
@@pigzard01 the only thing is he is so defensively built, he barely does any damage. rather the damage being tied to his items and surf skill would be a better idea imho. he would heal more as well after surf+ i believe
@pigzard015 ай бұрын
@onjiponj I agree. I'm not defending the muscleband choice just figuring out why he used it. I haven't used MB on my slowbro since 2021.
@ikram15725 ай бұрын
Definitely should've just used slick spoon.
@onjiponj5 ай бұрын
@@pigzard01 oh no for sure brother nw. i didnt think you were. we’re just having a friendly conversation:) have a good rest of your day
@pkmnunite32835 ай бұрын
No offense, but the reason why people pick scald over surf is because scald is an easier moveset to play.
@j_r285 ай бұрын
No offense but scald provides more value with 60% damage reduction, area of effect heal reduction, and secure. While surf can easily be countered by unstoppable. People who think surf would provide more value into Char unite, Lucario, Over heat Blaziken, dark bear, garchomp unite are just stupid because scald applies burn effect no matter what.
@GxEnjoyer5 ай бұрын
@@j_r28 and you get interrupted and you don't get healed. Also with scald you can't protect anyone, they will just skip the frontline, kill your attackers and you won't have way to prevent it other than Unite moving. Scald can be easily countered by just dodging it, it's so easy to do it or even interrupt it Scald bro is just a noob stomper for people who don't know how to deal with Goodra and eat all of its dragon pulses
@jorgehudorovich22445 ай бұрын
@@GxEnjoyerscald+amnésia with potion is a good alternative, there's no such thing as better in slowbro, just different playstyle
@Erinyes5 ай бұрын
@@j_r28 no but he's also right. i cannot aim with telekinesis so i only play surf/tele if i feel pressured enough for my team, whose comp pressured me enough already to play slowbro in the first place
@fernoramos945 ай бұрын
@GxEnjoyer I stack scald in master rank and carry all the time, more than when I use surf. It does more damage and it my eyes that's better because you can't even count on your teammates 95% of the time.
@brenopinheiro37695 ай бұрын
Cris just wants the meta change to surf so he stops suffering to scald
@embernodebeef5 ай бұрын
Surf always has been Multi stun with power but people really like the damage drop of scold sadly
@Joeys_Rattata5 ай бұрын
That Delphox missed so many Mystical Fires 😅
@Erinyes5 ай бұрын
i play scald bc i can never aim telekinesis. but it's not like i like playing slowbro... usually my team makes me play slowbro...
@Anonymous_Cramorant5 ай бұрын
I understand the point, but no offense scald was better move in that game, no wonder your team was struggling the whole game.
@GxEnjoyer5 ай бұрын
If they were struggling it was because there was no speedster to hunt Dpult and the Hoopa was clueless Scald wouldn't have made it any better because it is even easier to dodge than surf, not to mention for a Dpult And you can notice they hardly needed a speedster cause Cris did that job at Ray fight when he got Dpult
@crisis56295 ай бұрын
I play espeed with surf and it always help me
@sagnikpal45814 ай бұрын
Surf is better for team support If more close range Pokemon came in opponent it can be game changing but surf slowbro is awful experience of a game We can't waste our time playing the game with surf slowbro While scald is more versatile and it's more fun In duo trio people should play surf as for them it doesn't matter how long they waste in the game but for us it's ok with scald if you want to play slowbro Crish is a streamer so he has to bring up new build as long he is doing this it his job so even if you say I can't leave my scaldbro as with scald I have stolen ray a dozen times
@Mahesh_656295 ай бұрын
Please more videos with spragels 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@BarnzTT5 ай бұрын
Master rank and you still have players like Hoopa on your team.
@blazebusgaming8325 ай бұрын
But…but! Moy plays x speed scald slowbro!
@rthrbcurling4 ай бұрын
amnesia scald potion is superior
@ankitsinghrawat32195 ай бұрын
I finally did it cris after 3 years of playing this game I am done I really have no hopes from the devs They won't fix anything I had more then 13k games on my account Still love your content man
@drdepression46055 ай бұрын
I will not switch from slow smoke
@ElChicoBush5 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm sorry, at least in SoloQ Surf never gives me good results opposite to Scald in most scenarios. Even tho it sounds so good on paper. I'm not in this one with you crisp :p
@galecont6805 ай бұрын
Hoopa carrying 😂
@selimlin72075 ай бұрын
I'm in your country watching this now😂
@fordknievel26075 ай бұрын
Reminder to ban slowbro, especially if you want to make compilations
@novinshafigh31985 ай бұрын
Wrong on so many levels
@pauloshea62915 ай бұрын
What is skyld? 😅
@RaunaK0023M5 ай бұрын
Under 1 min gang 👇
@ranking83755 ай бұрын
Nah. Potion on slowbro is fire. Less cd so you have more usage especially when defending base against multiple enemies. Eject button is mostly for paper mons. Slowbro doesnt have any need to run like a lil byatch 💪🏼🗿
@Browlet5405 ай бұрын
Its not for running, its for eject surf combo, slowbro doesnt have the speed to catch up
@ranking83755 ай бұрын
@@Browlet540 slowbro isnt meant to chase 💀 that's the speedsters job. When I play slowbro...I wait patiently for that chance to unite the most dangerous mon in enemy team when ray spawns.
@Browlet5405 ай бұрын
@@ranking8375 I know slowbro isn't meant to chase, but several times squishy attackers at low hp xspeed away or eject away. That time, you can eject surf into them, or eject tk, or eject unite etc. Also, sometimes, you can eject into an enemy group(3 ops, say) and you can't eject past them, and surf towards your team direction, that way, they'll have less time to escape, and your team can reach easier.
@SleepyBuggo4 ай бұрын
It’s not to run it’s literally meant for repositioning…. Or if you don’t wanna “run” you can use it to surprise jump on an enemy into ult
@personhowell5 ай бұрын
No.
@Buck20045 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes
@swarooprg79355 ай бұрын
Hello
@sarnasingh21325 ай бұрын
Nice
@AntonForSure5 ай бұрын
I lowkey would prefer tree being better than slowbro again. Slowbro such a boring character, man…
@avoidme705 ай бұрын
Very bad build tbh.. Don't try it guys hes making anything for content.. muscle band in slowbro? You high or something?
@jamiesreef3185 ай бұрын
I know right
@DiffHelloDiffHello5 ай бұрын
Muscle band is ok though?
@pigzard015 ай бұрын
If he ran amnesia - surf I think it's a decent pick but taking TK where he's not moving is a waste of the slot.
@DiffHelloDiffHello5 ай бұрын
@@pigzard01 Remember slowbro is a defender, with stuns, surf and telekenisis fit that role. Scald amnesia is a more all rounder esc build while surf telekenisis assists but annoyingly relies on teammates to pick up on the opportunities you create
@Vermillionx5 ай бұрын
Why NOT Muscle Band? Because it gives the +15 attack? You don't always take Muscle Band for the attack stat. Eldegoss and Venusaur are two of multiple examples for Pokemon that you sometimes see Muscle Band used on for Special Attackers. It's a good Held item. Would another item be more useful? Sure, you could definitely argue for that. But it's fine here. Slowbro fits in a weird category where all of it's moves are good, and any combination will put in some work if you know how to use them correct. So no, the build is not "Very bad".
@alex771955 ай бұрын
no offense cris but im not taking your advice on defenders or supporters. ur a god at speedsters, all rounders, and most attackers but my slowbro gameplay trumps urs by a wide margin. scald is superior