Critical Incident Community Briefing

Critical Incident Community Briefing - February 22, 2022

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Stockton Police Department

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@xxxIB6UB9xxx 2 жыл бұрын

When you shoot that many times you are either a terrible shot or you're committed to kill.

@patrickhurley707 2 жыл бұрын

He didn’t need to kill her. He was in no “real” danger. He could have moved away and let her ram away. I know people will dispute my comments but he has been given permission by his chain of command to pull the trigger.

@paulcountryman5168 2 жыл бұрын

I don't dispute your comment. It made NO sense to fire that many times. I back the blue whether anyone likes it or not. For me, there are WAY more good cops than bad. The media just talks about the bad incidents or times when a black person is killed because it is sensational more often than not. Whether they were doing anything really bad or not, the black person should not be killed. It is like it is never ok to shoot a black person. Even if they were going out of their way to kill another person or a cop, and they were shot accordingly. People act as if GOD HELP the cop because the victim was black. That part of these types of stories does get old. But this, this was excessive. It just made so sense.

@ailynevensen 2 жыл бұрын

He was a k9 unit, his partner was in the car, so that's impossible. This was assault on an officer with a deadly weapon and I wish more people would realize that.

@patrickhurley707 2 жыл бұрын

@@ailynevensen I realize it. It was a choice he made and has to live with regardless if he is charged with a crime.

@MrAgentEcho 2 жыл бұрын

@@ailynevensen k9 officers leave their dogs in hot cars and kill their own partner all the time and aren't even held responsible for their own actions. Look up "cop chokes k9" there's a video of a cop lifting his dog's entire weight by it's collar. All 4 legs off the ground, all it's weight is on it's neck. Textbook animal abuse, but were there charges? No. They also send those dogs to bite and apprehend suspects which... are often armed and there's a chance the dog dies. It's a risk that's acceptable. it's not a human life, she can be charged with more stuff when finally apprehended. It's just a dog.

@InductedMist 2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickhurley707 are you going to let someone repeatedly ram your vehicle with your animal inside? This whole comments section is loopy, no body has the right to assert physical force over another, be it cop over civilian or civilian over cop.

@iamtherealmarimaxx5764 2 жыл бұрын

I understand some police are good and are on high alert when responding to incidences but I do not see the need for firing shot after shot into a vehicle. What if innocent children were inside. Perhaps taking a suspect out on a dead end street is easier and less costlier than having back up put out tire flatners to stop the car. Hard to watch. Harder to understand “why”.

@karenrn5607 2 жыл бұрын

How do you suppose he could have talked to her? While she was ramming his car? C’mon man! People drive recklessly on flat tires ALL the time! Ever watched any of the “cop” reality shows??

@Cathy-ye7cr 2 жыл бұрын

OMG the cop did not take her to a dead end street.... She took her stupid self there.... Get a life

@chillywilly5258 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, she is crazy.

@babylondon9893 2 жыл бұрын

*was

@ailynevensen 2 жыл бұрын

When met with a deadly force against ones life, you shoot to kill. Unfortunately this man was a really bad shot.

@Peziya1998 2 жыл бұрын

This is overkill!!!

@kevinnelson9228 2 жыл бұрын

Dat lady was crazy

@corinecabrera9435 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was too many shots also, but we're not the ones out there in these dangerous situations your guard is up your adrenaline is pumping and police officers are human too they're not robots. So many officers have been killed and when suspects don't comply and continue to non compliance and not listen this is what happens unfortunately. Praying for both families.

@karenrn5607 2 жыл бұрын

Yes!! You’re level-headedness is appreciated!

@corinecabrera9435 2 жыл бұрын

@@karenrn5607 thank you! God Bless

@Baebayboy 2 жыл бұрын

The car NEVER stopped moving, you NEVER shoot at a moving car, They NEVER seen a gun . And they thought it was a black male , So that made it seemed ok , its NEVER ok , But it was a Grandma going through a mental issue. PLEASE LEARN To DEESCALATE situations PLEASE

@soylabonita 2 жыл бұрын

He could have shot in it th tires. He want in immediate danger. His car was hit. She didn’t hit him physically.

@shpjoejackson 2 жыл бұрын

He sure could have, and the dead fucker could have acted like a civilized human , and followed lawful commands. Just another clown with out the ability to understand action have consequences.

@Jxoxo716 2 жыл бұрын

They are not taught to shoot at tires on body parts. They are taught to shoot to stop the person. Even after ram his car and getting shot at the person STILL continued to try and ram Into him again. He almost was knocked down the first time she rammed into the car.

@ailynevensen 2 жыл бұрын

It seems you missed the last part of the video when she rammed his car so hard that he physically moved.

@ricot166 2 жыл бұрын

Officer stop the threat. He was alone and did his best. People should respect the law it’s for everyone. There is no respect just chaos .

@karenrn5607 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Harry! It’s true. The world has gone mad!!

@diannaharvey1758 2 жыл бұрын

How did he know if the victim wasn’t sick. Way to much force!!! What assessment if any did the officer make 30 bullets in a car, incredibly a out of control cop. That’s why these depts. need restructuring and retraining. You just killed a woman, Why????? And this is why we no longer trust you.

@ccryderx 2 жыл бұрын

Love all the bleeding hearts asking 'why couldn't he just shot out the tires' or that he was just trigger happy. This woman knowingly rammed her car thus making it a weapon into a police cruiser with no regard for his safety. Officer did a damn good job takin out the trash.

@imjustoya9035 2 жыл бұрын

Although the officers actions may have been justified, your term of taking out the trash is very harsh. Simply stating that the threat had to be eliminated would have sufficed.

@monicaanguiano8307 2 жыл бұрын

And in closing we just watched another cop use unnecessary deadly force to stop a “criminal.” What happened to blowing the tires out to stop them fleeing? Why wasn’t that an option at the time this cop murdered this woman?

@ccryderx 2 жыл бұрын

She became a 'criminal' when she used her car as a weapon. Cop had every right to take out the trash and did a damn good job doin it too!

@liznelson5505 2 жыл бұрын

Damn that is tooo many shots one and then the tires …. I swear it needs to be taught non lethal takedowns until you are aware of the suspect being armed and don’t give me the all suspects could be armed … but not many armed suspects get 20+ bullets sprayed into their bodies ….

@ailynevensen 2 жыл бұрын

But they were armed. Vehicles are considered deadly weapons fyi.

@Cathy-ye7cr 2 жыл бұрын

Did you see the video our read the story? A vehicle is defiantly a DEADLY WEPON.....

@Interstate107 Жыл бұрын

2:59 This is also investigated by Stockton Detectives Stockton Police Department San Joaquin County Sheriffs office and the California Highway Patrol because CHP has been called to asist to find the car on i5

@michelleadams4341 2 жыл бұрын

Why did he keep firing his gun? Their was no movement!!!

@Jxoxo716 2 жыл бұрын

Ummm… you need to rewatch. Bc he only shot the second reload bc the person was moving and putting the car in reverse. After the second movement of the car he then stopped shooting. 🤷🏽‍♀️

@ailynevensen 2 жыл бұрын

Pay attention, the damn car moved. 🤦🏼‍♀️

@TrixieTrickx Жыл бұрын

I would like to see the rest of the video, dash cam etc., from all responding officers.

@EDRPOS 2 жыл бұрын

I guess shooting out the tires wasn't an option

@karenrn5607 2 жыл бұрын

You can still drive on flat tires!

@pathosfear6290 2 жыл бұрын

@Central Texan The officer had other options that did not involve shooting. Maybe not at the situation where the gun was fired, but leading up to that. Just saying. That doesn't mean the officer was in the wrong, a vehicle is a deadly weapon, the officer defended himself with a deadly weapon, the woman wasn't complying. Play stupid games, get stupid prizes. In this case, lead.

@sweetdaddySoCali Жыл бұрын

okay that cop should be fired

@user-gy5vv6wc4r 2 жыл бұрын

The officers response was justified! I would have put a hundred rounds in the vehicle if that's what it had taken to stop this person. The perpetrator driving clearly intended and did use the vehicle as a weapon for the purpose of bodily harm to the officer and facilitate a means of escape. It was clear that after the officer fired the first volley the perpetrator attempted to continue to use the vehicle to batter the officer and either disable him or kill him. The officers actions were clearly an act of self defense at that point which justified the second volley of fire to stop the perpetrators continued attempt on his life. Because the perpetrator was a woman or a grandmother bares no relevance. Her actions were clearly criminal nature, the intent was also very clear that she was using vehicle as a weapon for the purpose of bodily harm or death to the officer. After the first volley fired it was also clear the perpetrator had not been disabled to a point to prevent further aggression which justifies the further use of deadly force by the officer. Although the outcome is a sad one along with her age and position in life her actions were deliberate, careless, reckless, and did not show any concern for her own safety. That being said an investigation is warranted to determine if her actions were intentional and consistent with "suicide by cop syndrome" which could possibly explain her actions.

@karenrn5607 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Cathy-ye7cr 2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!!

@ja4067 2 жыл бұрын

Yours is the most elaborate response so I’ll start here. 1. 100 rounds? Sounds like you’re a terrible short or a fan of excessive force, both would be adequate to keep you from ever wearing a badge, hopefully you weren’t banking on it. 2. In this case it definitely matters, as a cop you’re trained to assess the threat level (while maintaining a professional unbias). Here you can see he did the opposite, her car was pulled up directly beside his 3:42 and he had multiple chances to see that she was an elderly woman which (unbiasedly) would lead him to assume she might have been confused or having any number of medical ailments tied to age. Instead he assumes that she is a black male (as stated in video) and reacts accordingly. And reacts is the correct word here, as he shoots an excessive amount (if you want to fact check that go back to the part of the video where shots are fired and slow it down to .25x) the car pulls forward (suggesting running AWAY rather than more confrontation or lethal action) he has a chance to see that she is an elderly lady and unarmed. Here there are multiple options available to him, he can wait for backup, try to talk her down, raise his arms as a white flag. Instead he doesn’t take a second to asses and instead acts on his original assumption (bringing into play the importance of who she was) and shoots again an excessive amount (again watch from a neutral standpoint in .25x for the play by play) and THEN assessed. Even reaching for his camera two different times as he finally realizes what’s taken place. As for the human argument I have to say this isn’t a game a football where you can make snap decisions and tackle anyone who poses a threat. This is life, this is a person who doesn’t get to see her family again. Don’t take that lightly, it’s disrespectful to the badge they wear. In the very least he deserves to be discharged from the force and issue a retraining for the team. If not a complete revamp of the department itself, who have to ask yourself who trained this guy to begin with.

@ja4067 2 жыл бұрын

Also, why did she pull up to the side of his car? Where is that part of the video? Did she say something? Give any sort of signal? I also have never heard this officer’s speech pattern, but living in stockton I wouldn’t be surprised if this officer was inebriated, his speech is excessively slow and seems slurred. It definitely struck me as odd.

@ja4067 2 жыл бұрын

Senate Bill 2

@kingplaya 2 жыл бұрын

Devils gon Devil

@ja4067 2 жыл бұрын

Yours is the most elaborate response so I’ll start here. 1. 100 rounds? Sounds like you’re a terrible shot or a fan of excessive force, both would be adequate to keep you from ever wearing a badge, hopefully you weren’t banking on it. 2. In this case it definitely matters, as a cop you’re trained to assess the threat level (while maintaining a professional unbias). Here you can see he did the opposite, her car was pulled up directly beside his 3:42 and he had multiple chances to see that she was an elderly woman which (unbiasedly) would lead him to assume she might have been confused or having any number of medical ailments tied to age. Instead he assumes that she is a black male (as stated in video) and reacts accordingly. And reacts is the correct word here, as he shoots an excessive amount (if you want to fact check that go back to the part of the video where shots are fired and slow it down to .25x) the car pulls forward (suggesting running AWAY rather than more confrontation or lethal action) he has a chance to see that she is an elderly lady and unarmed. Here there are multiple options available to him, he can wait for backup, try to talk her down, raise his arms as a white flag. Instead he doesn’t take a second to asses and instead acts on his original assumption (bringing into play the importance of who she was) and shoots again an excessive amount (again watch from a neutral standpoint in .25x for the play by play) and THEN assessed. Even reaching for his camera two different times as he finally realizes what’s taken place. As for the human argument I have to say this isn’t a game a football where you can make snap decisions and tackle anyone who poses a threat. This is life, this is a person who doesn’t get to see her family again. Don’t take that lightly, it’s disrespectful to the badge they wear. In the very least he deserves to be discharged from the force and issue a retraining for the team. If not a complete revamp of the department itself, who have to ask yourself who trained this guy to begin with.

@ja4067 2 жыл бұрын

@MrAgentEcho 2 жыл бұрын

Cop at 3:40 sounds stoned

@shequitagosa8358 2 жыл бұрын

Ok so obviously I need too rewatch the video because I didn’t see her hit him at the red light. I see he’s in one lane and she’s in another but go to the third lane to turnaround just too go the other way. She just might be lost cause I actually panic before because I didn’t turn and kelp straight and went across the bridge going into Arkansas. Go over that body of water and I was just 18. I had no phone I was crying but the first gas station I seen I stopped still crying and someone told me how too get back on so I can go back too Memphis. Anyway like he said he really thought that was a man like he feared for his life not knowing it was a lady that was really lost and afraid. For one you know she didn’t know where she was at because she kelp turning onto dead ends. Sometimes everybody be so quick too judge. The dead can’t tell their side of the story too actually know what was going on with them or in their head. Not taking sides but no one fired back at all so did you really have too use two mags on that lady or you really thought it was a man. I’m not saying it’s a race thing but I will say this did he think it was a black man and he feared for his life. Sometimes step back and think and analyze things and please everyone stop being judgmental and make something make sense. Stop me if I said anything wrong

@Jxoxo716 2 жыл бұрын

Even if your lost you can see and KNOW to stop at red lights. This didn’t have anything to do with being lost. She was driving crazy. Normally I say firing into a car is wrong but she hit his car so hard it was moving and then she continued after the first hit to try and turn the car around to ram his car again. Did you want him to just keep letting her ram into him? He couldn’t or shouldn’t of ram bc the person could have a gun so what else should he have done??? Please give me some other ideas bc I can’t think of any.

@MrAgentEcho 2 жыл бұрын

3:42

@Jxoxo716 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrAgentEcho What does 3:42 mean?

@freespeechproject4101 2 жыл бұрын

This was a disgusting execution of a beautiful woman who needed help, not a cop gunning her down.

@mkay1957 2 жыл бұрын

I'll bet you wouldn't feel that way if she ran over one of your family members. Why do you pretend to care anyway?

@itsDemeGoD 2 жыл бұрын

yea ok i’d like to see you go and try and help someone trying to run you down with their car

@nasacollector3676 2 жыл бұрын

Just when u thought the comments couldn't get any more stupider, along comes FreeSpeechProject and says "hold my beer".

@mkay1957 2 жыл бұрын

@@nasacollector3676 More like "Hold my crack pipe and my mood meds".

@mkay1957 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she was so beautiful that the cop identified her as a 50 year old man.

@joannepalmer5450 2 жыл бұрын

Wow

@uriahmartinez9454 2 жыл бұрын

🗑🗑🗑🗑

@danhotea6302 2 жыл бұрын

how in the world you would justify something like this as a self defense from the cop view i don t get that you know its a close road yet you still executed her wtf you ever heard off shoot the tire disgusted i could understand people defending the cop because today you see an animal you stop and help you see a human in distress and you pass judgement rather then trying to help them

@shawnburkett6322 2 жыл бұрын

Look at the facts if you can. She started it by hitting a police car at a stop light for NO reason. Then drove off do a ILLEGAL U-turn, RAN red lights, Turn to ram a POLICE car again, then pulled forword and backed back into the POLICE car again. You think someone like that was a good person? The COP did the right thing and is a HERO. You should Thank him for taking out the trash. I DO.

@willywalnuts 2 жыл бұрын

@@shawnburkett6322 Yeah we should definitely magdump granny for some traffic infractions. Lol. You and this coward in blue would shoot your own shadow; scared of everything.

@ailynevensen 2 жыл бұрын

Assault with a deadly weapon (the car) is still a crime, FYI.

@loner9832 2 жыл бұрын

3B33 sounds like al gore.

@thepurpleroom222 2 жыл бұрын

This Is STILL Murder.. What SUCKS Is 🐷his🐷 Ass MIGHT Get Away With It...😡 He COULD'VE De-escalated The Situation, PLUS, He Wasn't In Fear Of His Life, He Was In His Car.. Let's See How The 🤡🐷Just-US🐷🤡 System Tries To Justify This.. Smh😡

@jesuslopez4113 2 жыл бұрын

dont call 911 if youre ever hurt or shot. I was in a gang and went to prison for 7 years. I deserved what i got. Now im doing very well because i changed my ignorant victimhood views. Dont commit crimes and you got no worries. Ive had 5 friends killed by cartels. You have no idea how bad you need cops.

@shawnburkett6322 2 жыл бұрын

@thepurpleroom222 2 жыл бұрын

@@jesuslopez4113 Check This Out Jesus; I Did 9 Years STRAIGHT In Various California Prisons, 3 In CorCoran SHU, A Few In Pelican Bay, Salinas Valley, Sac4, New CorCoran Etc, And To START My Sentence Off, I Had The 💩 Beat Out Of Me For Running From The 🐷s For A Dice Game In Long Beach California, Luckily 🐷He🐷 Didn't MURDER Me Cause 🐷He🐷 Could Have But Didn't, 🐷He🐷 Just Beat Me While Hand Cuffed & Planted Drugs On Me, & No I DIDN'T Resist, My ONLY Resistance Was Running, After 🐷He🐷 Caught Me With A BearHug I Complied... SMH😡 I NEVER Said We Didn't Need 👮🏾‍♂️Police Officers👮🏼‍♂️, I'm Sayin' This; Dirty🐷s Who BREAK THE LAW, And REFUSE To AtLEAST TRY To DeEscalate, NEED To Be Held Accountable For THEIR CRIMES As Well, Because NO ONE Is Above The Law.. Let Me Ask You This; Do Ya Think A Non Police Officer Could've Apprehended The Lady In That Car WITHOUT Murdering Her??🤔 My Answer Is YES.. Plus, During My Prison Stay I Was STARVED For 8 Days For Protesting By Flooding The Unit With My Toilet, Was It RIGHT For Them To Starve Me, And LIE About It??🤔 Was It OK For The Long Beach🐷 To Beat Me For Running & Plant Drugs On Me??🤔 ALL I'm Sayin' Is; We NEED GOOD HONEST POLICE OFFICERS, Not 🐷Gang THUGS With Badges🐷.. PSA; I Left California And Am Legally Doin' Better In Life Now, 21 Years After Being Released From Prison..👌🏾

@thepurpleroom222 2 жыл бұрын

@@shawnburkett6322 YOU Are TRASH!! I Bet You Voted For Your daddy 🍊trump🍊 And Believe 🐷Michael Slager🐷 Was JUSTIFIED In Shooting UnArmed 🕊️Walter Scott🕊️ In His Back..Smh🖕🏾

@ailynevensen 2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, another child sitting behind his computer preaching as if he understands anything that happened. You just spit back everything you hear on tv without for a second knowing anything. I pity such ignorance.